Arizona Transgender Bathroom Bill 1432 and SAGA

A Trans group in AZ is trying to fight a Bill (bill 1432, which is trying to criminalize trans males (primarily) from using female bathrooms and other private areas, the bill does extend to both sexes. Bill below:
Basically, if a trans male or female is clocked while in the Ladies/Mens, they can be asked to show Birth ID, and if their disorder sex does not match their real sex, they can be criminalized. Clearly this bill was designed to keep males (however they're dressed) from gaining access to women's private areas. Because once autogynephiles have their genitals butchered beyond use, rendering their masturbatory highs defunct, they count on these trans excursions for their mental trans highs.

 As a Butch woman who has been physically removed from her share of lady's rooms, who has had her share of snide remarks from other women in the lady's room, has had managers called in, has had women walk in, look at me and walk back out to check the sign on the door to verify that they were in fact in the right bathroom or not come back at all. In short, the public lady's has always been a source of pain, shame and embarrassment for me. I can stand tall against any man, fearless even, but having to use a public toilet? I'm reduced to nothing. Powerless. I've had nieces as young as 6 or 7 years old stand up for me when adult women say something smart or something about their being a "man" in the ladies. My little little nieces will yell at the tops of their lungs "SHE'S A GIRL"! If out with family and I have to go to the bathroom, the adult females there will always go with or tell one of the female children to "go to the bathroom with aunt lynn". But despite all the hassle, I get it and I understand it. These experiences are partly due to the Gender Straight Jacket, partly due to Butch Invisibility, but 99.9999999999% because we as women live in a rape culture. A culture in which the threat of rape is so ever-present that women cannot afford to let even one of the bastards (males) in. This is why I accept the hassles and why laws should be put in place to keep actual males out.

Which is why shit like this

pisses me off to no fucking end! The trans community trying to tell me as a Butch woman how these laws are going to hurt me? Fuck you! Butch lesbians are 1000% woman! Carrying our female bodies in ways that are outside the Gender Straight Jacket isnt "non conforming"! Its bloody NATURAL! The ONLY thing "non conforming" is the hyper femininity to which these autogynephiles strive for full masturbatory pleasure!!! So until I see this community using its numbers to stop rape rather than reinforce it, keep your fucking lips off my nature!

This AZ Trans group has hatched several plans of action in order to quash the 1432 bill, all at the expense of gays and lesbians.

They have selected five trans females who resemble men the most, to enter the public ladies room in effort of frightening any women using the bathroom at that time. Their hope is that by instilling RAPE fears into the women who might be occupying the bathroom at the time, they will force MALE lawmakers to consider that it could be their "wives and daughters" coming into contact with "transmen" in bathrooms, locker room showers etc. Given that on a busy afternoon in a public place, the bathroom might have at a minimum, 5 or 6 women. Given that on average 1 in 6 women are raped. And given in AZ which has a high American Indian population where around 1 in 3 are raped, you can bet your bottom dollar that when this little stunt is pulled, at least 1 woman in that bathroom will have been the victim of rape by a man! So not ONLY is this group using rape culture fear to make a point, it is also doing so at the expense of women who HAVE been RAPED!!! And this is no internet picture with a "trigger" warning, this is REAL life!

They fail to see how this could seriously harm a rape victim and they clearly fail to see what this stunt is really saying to the public. It says that men who look like men, women who look like men or hell emo girls in hoodies cannot be trusted in the private areas of women/girls because all of the above have the potential for raping women!!! Meaning, the Trans community is saying that Butch lesbians are likely to rape women, females on testosterone are likely to rape women and men looking like men are likely to rape women. Therefore ONLY girls and women who are bound and gagged by the Gender Straight Jacket AND MEN who adopt high femininity should be allowed in women's private area's because of course only they can be trusted to be around females without the threat of rape.

But why stop there, right? Well this group doesnt. The next screencap is from the minutes of a recent SAGA meeting...

They are going to try and link gay marriage to group marriage in order to quash this bill also, with zero thought on how this linking would affect gay marriage in the long run. Every fucking gay person and his or her brother has heard for decades from the religious right that once they allow gays and lesbians to marry the next thing will be us wanting to marry animals. By linking group sex/marriage to loving gay and lesbian relationships, it brings these long held ignorant beliefs back to the surface, thereby throwing away any chance gays and lesbians have of legal marriage.

The Trans Politic has seriously reached some new lows against women, gays and lesbians. And for what? So a few guys whose dicks are so beyond use can now only get their kicks from being able to legally get into women's bathrooms, locker rooms and showers. Is your phallus REALLY worth that fucking much??

Edit to add:

This from a Trans FB page regarding this misogynistic bill:

Last I checked I dont have the right to marry, nor do millions of other gays and lesbians in this country. Yet trans people have been legally skirting marriage laws by legally changing sex, a fucking LUXURY we do not fucking have! If the Trans politic were part of OUR gay and lesbian community not ONE would take advantage of their condition, not bloody one!

And if the above dont make you puke how about this:

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, who are suppose to be working for gay and lesbian issues with monies from many gay and lesbian pockets are now fighting trans battles. Looks like GLAAD is also against the legal rights of gays and lesbians to marry and the legal right to traumatize women/lesbians of rape by supporting this bill. If you are gay or lesbian who previously donated to GLAAD, you might wanna think twice going forward about where your hard earned money is going and what exactly is being done with your money!


  1. I wonder what would happen if some hairy, tattooed burly trans guy is forced to use the women's room. Some sort of hilarity would ensue, like something out of a Benny Hill show.

    ..unless one of the women has a concealed carry permit.

  2. Why don't you just admit you're trans? You're not a butch lesbian.. you're just a closeted man playing a sort of war game on here. It's common for men to thrive on conflict. Your war is with men and trans people. You hate men and trans people because you see them both as a reflection of yourself and you're jealous of the women they get. The main reason you're writing this blog is because you want to attract female rape victims and get them to hate men so they can become lesbians and be with you, the "innocent butch lesbian". LOL I wonder how many women you RAPED in your pathetic lifetime. I can't picture anyone willingly having sex with a creature as vile as you.

  3. By insisting that the "T" still be attached to the GLB, the issue of transgender in women's restrooms, locker rooms, showers, etc. has the potential to take the entire GLBT down. After 45 year old Colleen Francis paraded his penis in front of 17 year old girls in Olympia, Washington, I read many blogs that blamed it on the GLBT as if gay and lesbian are exactly the same as transgender. GLB were tied in with transgender.

    The same trans activists that joked about bashing in the head of a lesbian with a baseball bat have the audacity to expect proud gay men and lesbians to be their allies in this fight to allow pre-op transgender like Colleen Francis access to women's restrooms. Hell no, this is their fight not ours.

    The same transgender community that knew full well that their rapey sounding "Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Transwomen" was sexist and extremely lesbian phobic expects lesbians to support the right of MTFs with panty hose fetishes to take over women's restrooms. Hell no, it's not going to happen.

    In Iran, gay men are coerced into sex reassignment surgery while being homosexuality is a death sentence. In western countries, we are more civilized in that we use puberty suppressing drugs on our gay and lesbian children. There is no doubt in my mind that the transgender community knows full well that this is happening, but they don't care.

    Guess What! Women (I'm talking about all women) have the voting power to shut the entire GLBT down if we wanted to. Do people really think Obama would have been elected twice without the women's vote. Women gain absolutely nothing from this transgender freaking bull crap. We don't want them in our restrooms, and since we outnumber transgender, we don't have to put up with it. If the Republicans are able to split the women's vote on this issue, the entire GLB is screwed. I'm a life long Democrat who voted for Obama twice, but the Republicans will use this issue to bash the entire GLBT because in many straight folk's mind, the "T" is associated with the GLB. So, listen up my wise, dear, and beloved gay friends and lesbian sisters, it's time to drop the "T" like a bad habit. Drop it's like it's a hot potato. Drop it, and don't look back.

    This is their fight not ours.

  4. Trans are a bunch terrorists and it's about high time something was done about these sadistic pieces of shit who terrorize women.

    I happen to live in Arizona. Many folks still wear cowboy hats, ride horses, and wear guns on their hips. If one of these trans bastards get shot while pulling this stunt, don't come crying to me.

    In the meanwhile, I will notify Arizona law makers of this planned stunt. Hopefully they will then make an amendment to the bill which will make it legal to prosecute trans to the fullest extent of the law and have them fined and imprisoned for intentionally trying to undermine laws meant to protect women, especially from twisted predators like M2Ts. As is documented, trans are NOT harmless. Pedophiles, rapists, batterers, and murderers of women can be counted among them.

    I'm not really worried about this bill failing. Arizona isn't liberal. These planned stunts will not work. Arizona will pass this bill, if not on the first try, on the second or third. Other states will then follow suit. This is the beginning of the end for trans and their shenanigans. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  5. Terrorists? Seriously. The suggestion is bloody absurd.
    Could you imagine if I was forced to use the women's loo? The women would very justifiably be alarmed.

    The bill states that it's a birth certificate that must be presented. How many of you carry a birth certificate with you at all times? I don't. My license says M and many, many of the trans women that creep you out have their licenses suitably altered. The bill will, however, give people the power to question everyone who doesn't fit preconceived ideas of gender.

    Hey, I've dated women who are particularly hairy, butch women, tomboys. I know naturally effeminate men who are read as female through zero effort. Make no mistake, this bill WILL affect you or someone like you. It will have very little effect on post-operative transsexuals.

  6. To Michel-Exildas Galipeau:
    Most people who label themselves as transexual are NOT post-op and never will be. Most just take hormones and have some secondary sex characteristics altered a bit.

    Women need to push for laws to keep men out of female only rooms, because they're fucking MEN! In this rape culture, even videos and pictures of guys raping an unconscious teen girl, isn't enough evidence for the "boys" to get serious prison time. Women are taught to acquiesce and accommodate men to their own detriment. To hell with that and to hell with them!

    Trans wishes and self delusions should never be catered to by the public at large.

    -B. G.

  7. @Anon 9:18PM

    Clearly, your incredibly selective grasp of "trans" only refers to people who attempt to transform sex to better conform to gendered expectations.

    She transgresses gender by refusing to change herself, especially her sex, in an attempt to conform to stereotypes. She understands that the gendered expectations forced upon her are fucking make-believe anyway - imaginary. "Masculine" and "feminine" are just a pair of arbitrary enumerated lists of human characteristics (which is in no way actually exclusive to any human being) split up according to which is most beneficial to males, regardless of the conversion expense females end up stuck with, presented to everyone like fact, like gospel, like prophecy to a cult. Arbitrary, contrived, manufactured and planted evidence supporting the totally not-suspiciously convenient gendered expectations that females will supposedly be "naturally" predisposed to perform boring, menial, repetitive tasks for a lifetime. And the expectation that we also exist as infinite wellsprings of selfless nurturing and altruistic compulsive obsession with providing nourishment to others (read: males) - all out of the goodness of our hearts. (Because expecting, let alone requiring compensation of any sort would be greedy. or at least just some kind of assertive, and needing things is totally out of the question for females, and none of those are approved feminine characteristics except when portrayed by the worst sort of villainess, ie your average Disney witch.)

    Yeah. Despite your gendered expectations, she is FAAB and therefore, a woman. And she does not need permission from you, or anyone else, least of all based on her fulfillment and adherence to your gendered expectations.

    So, yeah. I'm very sorry you're genderbound, but don't expect to force your nightmare on us genderfree, kthx. Good luck with your escape someday.

  8. See, I just don't get why so many people say they were "removed from the ladies' room" BEFORE/WITHOUT testosterone. I, for one, have NEVER been questioned, told to leave, or had security called on me in my soon-to-be 30 years of using women's rooms (I've never used a toilet that wasn't female/unisex in my life), so I just can't picture it. I never wear dresses or long hair, not even considering high heels and other torturous shoes, but never am I called "Sir," or "he," or assumed to belong anywhere BUT the ladies' room. I think a lot of it might be that I'm fat in ways that men aren't, or that I grew breasts at a time when it still wasn't unheard of for my male classmates to enter ladies' rooms with their moms, or maybe my height being 5'3". But I just cannot, for the life of me, understand how a woman can be read as "male" if she hasn't started testosterone and doesn't bind her breasts? That seems impossible.

  9. Guess if you ever visit Arizona, Dirt, then you'll need to bring your birth certificate in case you find the need to use a public restroom. As for me, this law won't affect me one bit, because unlike you and other butches, I appear to be someone who belongs in the ladies room...... and I have a dick.

  10. @Iris

    It's entirely possible. Although I have never been forcibly removed from a women's restroom, I frequently get some very hard stares and I've had people walk out of the restroom when they walk in and see me at the sink. I do not bind my breasts nor am I on testosterone. I have a friend who makes a point to puff out her chest to make her breasts more easily identifiable whenever she enters a women's restroom simply because she HAS been asked to leave. She also does not bind her breasts nor take testosterone.
    It's really not that uncommon for particularly Butch/non-male-defined-feminine females to be questioned or harassed in women's restrooms. In my experience, lesbians can place me as female quite easily, while straight women and gay men tend to have a more difficult time. I suppose it depends largely on culture and what cues you look for.

  11. I really think this might be a case of misplaced blame, but I understand how you must feel, Dirt. To feel that your values are being encroached upon by an increasingly different set of people who aren't like you and perhaps like former oppressors is terrifying!

    So you're upset now that if you live in AZ, or are in AZ for whatever reason, you may get asked to show your ID. It's fucked up. Since when was using the toilet the same as attending a strip club? Is that what the ladies' room is seen as by these possibly all-male legislators?

    I don't know what the process is for getting your gender marker changed in AZ is, but in NM, a trans person can get it done fairly simply. All that's needed is for your doctor, therapist, etc, to sign the form. A new ID card with the new gender designation will be issued. No SRS, nothing. It doesn't change all documentation- a person listed as male and registered under the selective service can have their ID say they're female.

    So these trans women then perhaps will use the restroom of their choice, the ladies' room, and possibly not be bothered. If they are asked, they can provide ID and, with their gender listed as "F", they will be allowed to use the ladies' room. You may never clock them, or notice.

    This law would likely instead inconvenience you, as well as other butch/non binary/girls that don't look like girls/androgynes/ etc, because the issue at hand is being gone about the wrong way. If some women look like men, and some men are women (I'm talking trans women or what you call trans males), then wouldn't they have anything in common? Nothing along the lines of "oh we share a distinctly similar issue in a way! We should work together! Welcome to the Legion of Womanhood, converted Comrade! We shall fight for our rights to use the ladies' room and be women in a world with a narrow view of what constitutes a woman. If its not okay to grope a feminine woman it shouldn't be okay to grope a butch one, nor one that was born a boy. It just lies on societal expectations, or the Gender Straight Jacket, and rape culture. Fuckability by heterosexual men.

    Yes trans women (or what you call trans males) can have a hard time acclimating to their new role. But why force it on them when you wish to express the way you are? I am not saying this as an underhanded insult- you don't look like you're trans, to me. But the point being, is that why attack when you have great potential to overturn this by becoming allies with everyone who has bathroom issues?

    Transgender people aren't often seen as people and I wonder maybe if you're offended to maybe have anything in common with them because people insult you by calling you that. Then why not eliminate its power and fight not just for butches, but be one of those wonderful, chivalrous and strong ones for all? Trans people included?

    I always thought that it was good to help others no matter what- the whole "They came for the transgender people, but I wasn't transgender so I didn't speak up, eventually when they came for me, nobody was there to speak up for me."

  12. This is what the transgender community refuses to admit. Male voyeurs have always had a fascination with women's restrooms. Also, it's a fact that there are transgender registered sex offenders such as Paula Witherspoon who was ticketed for using a women's restroom in Texas. Thomas Lee Benson is another transgender registered sex offender who was caught using the women's locker room.

    "A transgender woman who was ticketed for using a women’s restroom at Parkland hospital last week has a criminal background and is a registered sex offender, Instant Tea has learned.

    On Tuesday, we reported that 56-year-old Paula Witherspoon, of Dallas, was cited for disorderly conduct on April 25 after using a women’s restroom at Parkland, Dallas County’s public hospital.

    According to the Texas Department of Public Safety, Witherspoon was convicted of sexual assault of a child involving a 14-year-old girl in 1990 and sentenced to 16 years in prison. That same year, Witherspoon was also convicted of indecency with a child by sexual contact, involving a 15-year-old girl, and sentenced to six years in prison. According to DPS, Witherspoon remains on parole for the indecency conviction."

    July 6, 2011-

    MILWAUKIE, Ore. – A registered sex offender dressed up like a woman, went into a women’s locker room at a pool and talked with several children before being chased down by a good Samaritan, according to a Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office spokesman.

    Friday around 3 p.m. 39-year-old Thomas Lee Benson put on a bra, lipstick and eyeliner and walked into the North Clackamas Aquatic Park in Milwaukie, Detective Jim Strovink said.

    Strovink said Benson wandered around the center talking with children, went in the women’s locker room and took a dip in the hot tub.

    The pool was full of children at the time, including many on a summer field trip with the group Self Enhancement, Inc.

    Benson has a history of similar behavior. In 2007, Portland Police said he dressed up as a woman and went into the women’s locker room at Mt. Scott Community Center.

    According to the state sex offender registry, Benson was convicted in 1994 of sex abuse and was known to target girls between five and nine years old. The state lists him as a “predatory” sex offender.

    Of course, male voyeurs is nothing new.

    A man dressed as a woman has been spotted peeping at females and photographing them in a UC Berkeley locker room.

    According to an email just received from the UC Police Department:

    "On Monday, October 4, 2010 at 9:20 p.m. and again on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 at 4:30 p.m. a male disguised as a female was discovered in the Recreational Sports Facility women’s locker room. ”

    WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. -” Purdue University police are investigating a reported incident in which a man dressed as a woman was seen taking photographs under the wall of a women’s bathroom stall in Yue-Kong Pao Hall of Visual and Performing Arts. The incident was reported to police about 3:30 p.m. Monday(March 31).

    According to a police report, a woman was in a bathroom stall on the third floor of the building and saw a hand holding a blue flip-phone camera beneath the door. She left the restroom and then returned to confront the person. At that point, she realized the person was a man dressed as a woman.”

  13. LACEY — A transgendered Floridian stole more than $3,000 from women at the Forked River service station, police reported yesterday. Gwendolyn (aka Edward) Scott, 49, of Miami, was arrested Saturday after she was observed at the women’s bathroom at the service station on the Garden State Parkway, State Police Trooper John Steet said.

    The bathroom had been the scene of several thefts, dating back to May 20, Steet said. The suspect would target middle-aged and older women who hooked their purses on the bathroom stall door, he said. Some victims also reported being escorted or directed to a specific stall.

    Generally, they would not notice their purse had been taken until they saw it returning over the stall door, either hitting them in the head or falling to the floor, he said.

    “Emory Police Department (EPD) officers arrested “Coco Dorella,” whose legal name is William Frazier, on Sept. 18 at the Dobbs University Center (DUC) for carrying a loaded weapon onto school property.

    Frazier was reported by an Emory staff member, who said that a black male wearing a multicolored mini skirt and a wig had entered the women’s restroom, said Lt. Cheryl Elliott of EPD, adding that the DUC staff had asked him on many occasions not to use the restroom.

    According to EPD reports, the semi-automatic gun had a magazine with seven rounds of ammunition.Frazier also had a box with approximately 37 to 40 rounds of ammunition.”

    Male Transgender sentenced to 2 1/2 years in prison for assault on woman in women’s restroom:

    “Hagan was convicted in July of punching a fellow bar patron in the mouth. The victim, 40-year-old Cheryl Partsch, lost five teeth and could end up paying as much as $60,000 in medical bills.

    “Hagan was accused of battering Partsch because she questioned his presence in the women’s restroom.”

    “Police said Isaiah Johnson, 20, of Stamford, and “two other males dressed as females in the area of Veteran’s Park Bus stop” coerced the teenage boy into the bathroom of the food court of the Stamford mall on April 26, where a sexual encounter took place. The next day, the student told a school administrator, who reported the incident. Stamford police charged Johnson with second-degree sexual assault, second-degree unlawful restraint and risk of injury to a minor.”

  14. Police: Man in bra and wig found in women’s bathroom

    by KOMO 4 Staff

    Updated 08:27 p.m., Friday, March 16, 2012

    EVERETT, Wash. – A man wearing a bra and wig was arrested Friday after he was spotted in a women’s bathroom at Everett Community College, police said.

    Officers responded to the scene at about 1:30 p.m. after a college staff member said she saw the man go into the women’s rest room and alerted security personnel.

    An investigation found that the suspect had gone into the rest room while two women were inside, according to a police report. The women were later interviewed and said they had no idea that the man was there.

    When police interviewed the man, he claimed that he had gone into the bathroom to use the facilities.

    But the investigating officer noted that the man was wearing a wig and bra. A search also turned up a pair of woman’s panties in his front pocket, according to the police report.

    The man, later identified as Taylor J. Buehler, 18, of Lake Stevens, was placed under arrest.

    He admitted to officers that he was the suspect in an earlier voyeurism incident at Everett Community College on Monday, police said.

    In the earlier incident, he said he took a shower in the girls’ locker room for sexual gratification, acccording to the police report.”

  15. Why don't you just admit you're trans? You're not a butch lesbian.. you're just a closeted man playing a sort of war game on here. It's common for men to thrive on conflict. Your war is with men and trans people. You hate men and trans people because you see them both as a reflection of yourself and you're jealous of the women they get. The main reason you're writing this blog is because you want to attract female rape victims and get them to hate men so they can become lesbians and be with you, the "innocent butch lesbian". LOL I wonder how many women you RAPED in your pathetic lifetime. I can't picture anyone willingly having sex with a creature as vile as you.

    I knew they would get around to bashing lesbians sooner or later, calling lesbians rapists. It never fails, and I've come to expect it from the transgender community.

    I wish people would stop ignoring the cold hard facts that state that the vast majority of sex offenders are male. The issue at hand is biological males in women's restrooms and how it impacts female privacy and safety. For some strange reason, perhaps to divert attention, or distract people from the reality of the situation, the transgender community starts talking about lesbians. I don't know if people have noticed or not, but lesbians are female. Because lesbians are women, they are far more likely to victims of sexual assault or rape than perpetrators. Brutal corrective rape of lesbians is well documented in South Africa. All women, whether or not they are heterosexual, bisexual, or lesbian are victims of sexual assault, rape, and violence.

    The Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice states,

    March 2007

    National criminal justice statistics reveal that of all adults and juveniles who come to the attention of the authorities for sex crimes, females account for less than 10% of these cases (FBI, 2006). Specifically, arrests of women represent only 1% of all adult arrests for forcible rape and 6% of all adult arrests for other sex offenses.

    Census and Caseload Data from Criminal and Juvenile Justice Agencies

    In contrast to the approximately 140,000 men incarcerated in prisons nationwide for sex crimes, only 1,500 women are estimated to be imprisoned for these offenses (Harrison & Beck, 2005). They represent only 1% of all adults incarcerated for sex offenses, and 2% of all females in prison.

  16. LOL I wonder how many women you RAPED in your pathetic lifetime. I can't picture anyone willingly having sex with a creature as vile as you.

    I seriously doubt if any lesbian would do to another woman what transgender Sherri Masbruch (Richard Masbruch) is convicted of doing to two women. Read the court records, but I warn the reader that it is rather graphic. Although born a biological male, the state of California apparently considers Sherri Masbruch a woman because the last time I checked Masbruch was in a women's prison.

    (warning, the court records are very graphic)

    Sandy Jo Battista (David Megarry), a convicted sex offender who has molested girls, expects tax payers to pay for his feminizing hormones.

    Katheena Soneeya (Kenneth Hunt) , who is trying to get the State of Massachusetts to pay for hair removal and sex reassignment surgery was convicted of murdering two women.

    Robert Kosilek (Michelle Lynn Kosilek), then 39, was already transitioning when he killed his wife, Cheryl McCaul, during an argument. He strangled her to death, nearly decapitating her in the Mansfield, Massachusetts home they still shared.

    According to the Cambridge News, a transsexual and transvestite who raped a woman have been jailed for a total of more than 30 years for their “sadistic offences”.

  17. •Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted
    •There is an average of 207,754 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year
    •44% of victims are under age 18
    •80% are under age 30
    •54% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police
    •97% of rapists will never spend a day in jail

    When 1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape), seeing a strange male in a women's restroom is bound to make most women feel uncomfortable. 17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.

    Besides, what woman wants to change her tampon with a man sitting in the next stall.

    There is no reason why biological males can't use the men's restroom. If he still has his penis, he needs to use the men's restroom.

  18. These cases really are far too numerous to count, but I'll list just a few.

    Woman Raped Inside Park Bathroom During Company Picnic

    In May, a woman was raped in a restroom at Sacramento's Discovery Park. This all happened during a company picnic the woman was attending.,0,1793517.photogallery?index=ktxl-fox40coms-most-viewed-stories-of-2011-201-011

    IU student says she was raped during game

    Indianapolis Star, Feb. 24 -- An IU student reported at Bloomington Hospital that she was beaten and raped in a restroom at Assembly Hall during an IU-Purdue basketball game. The 18-year-old woman entered a restroom at about 8:40 p.m. She told police that when she was inside, a man approached her from behind, struck her several times and raped her.

    51 -year-old Spartanburg woman told the Spartanburg City Police Department that she was raped in a restroom at the Spartan burg Area Mental Health Center ...,2048340

    A 14-year-old girl at Temecula Valley High School was raped in a restroom stall during school hours Tuesday, an attack that has terrified students and led to increased police patrols on the suburban campus, authorities said. The ninth-grader was taking a bathroom break during second period when a male attacker forced her into a stall, said Riverside County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Earl Quinata. The attacker, possibly another student, sexually assaulted her, then fled the campus, Quinata said.

    April 2011

    A rash of violent crimes involving teens has prompted the Cops and Clergy Network to organize a prayer vigil and walk at Moreno Valley's Victoriano Park this evening.

    The network, led by the Rev. Felix Roger Jones III, put together a similar event in Redlands after two teens were slain there in January. That vigil drew about 1,000 people to the north Redlands neighborhood where Quinn McCaleb, 17, and Andrew Jackson, 16, were slain.

    Tonight's event will be at the park where an 11-year-old girl was raped in a restroom by a group of seven teen boys.

  19. Too many to list....

    A Jefferson County, Mo. woman is suing Pop’s Saloon claiming she was raped in a restroom by multiple unknown assailants at 7 a.m. on March 18, 2005.

    The plaintiff claims the Sauget tavern, owned by Mega Leasing Corp., failed to provide an adequately staffed security guard force.

    According to the complaint filed March 6 in St. Clair County Circuit Court, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted, suffered serious psychological disorders and physical disability and was potentially exposed to sexually transmitted diseases. She also claims the rape led her to attempt to commit suicide.

    Represented by Joseph M. Taylor of Taylor & Taylor in St. Louis, the plaintiff claims the defendant had a legal duty to take reasonable steps to protect its business invitees.

    April 2012

    Houston police are reportedly investigating after a 12-year-old told them that she was sexually assaulted in a bathroom at a Food Town store in southwest Houston last month.

    KPRC-Channel 2 says the child was attacked at the Food Town on Wilcrest and Briar Forest on March 17. The girl reportedly said a man talked to her outside the store and then followed her inside.

  20. All those disturbing incidents in locker rooms and bathrooms seem to involve MTFs with a history of sexual violence. There should be a law against anyone with a history of sexual violence from transitioning, as no doubt in the future trans people will have equal rights, and will be legally protected to be in public spaces such as toilets/locker rooms. Even if a guy has a history of creepily perving on women, then they will pose a large threat to women if they can legally gain access to these spaces by being trans.

    And Dirt sorry to hear about your bathroom experiences! I've gone through the exact same thing. And Iris it is possible to be mistaken for a man without being on T, specially if you're flat chested and skinny with short hair. Having other women see you as a potential rapist/pervert because they think you're a man using the female bathroom is fucking terrible. So I no longer use the female bathroom, and use the disabled one instead. If anyone questions it, I'll say I have IBS and don't want others to hear me go to the bathroom. I know that its not ideal, but it works for me, and no one actually ever has questioned me about using the disabled toilets, and they are almost always free.

  21. + that experiment with trans guys using female bathrooms to scare women, and prove that they should have legal access to use mens bathrooms is absolutely terrible. There are better ways to go about getting equal rights. Using FEAR as a tactic is repulsive.

  22. Anon @ March 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Regarding your statement:
    "I wish people would stop ignoring the cold hard facts that state that the vast majority of sex offenders are male."

    I completely agree with you, but you know trans people don't give a fuck about 'cold hard facts'. Anyone who actually believes they are somehow the opposite sex is not concerned with verifiable reality. They truly live in La-La land and are full of magical thinking.


  23. I'm not that familiar with this piece of legislation, but from what I gather, it's directly meant to keep males out of women's restrooms which is a good idea. Transgender activists don't like it because pre-op transgender (biological males with intact male genitalia) will be told to leave women's restrooms. Colleen Francis, are you reading this? Intersex and transsexuals in Arizona can get their birth certificate changed. Trans activists are wailing to high heaven that men being kicked out of the women's restrooms might have to show proof of their sex. This might inconvenience biological males who know that being in a women's restroom intrudes on the privacy of women, not to mention poses a potential risk to women. If a man doesn't want to be inconvenienced in any way, then stay out of the women's restroom.

    Arizona law permits a individual who has undergone sex-reassignment surgery or who has a chromosomal count that establishes that the individual’s sex is different than the information registered on his or her birth certificate to amend the birth certificate with 1) a written request for an amended birth certificate from the individual and 2) a written statement by a physician that verifies the sex-reassignment operation or chromosomal count.

    Citation: ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 36-337(A)(3).

    Updated: Tue, March 27, 2007 - 12:00:12

    "A person commits disorderly conduct if the person intentionally enters a public restroom, bathroom, shower, bath, dressing room or locker room and a sign indicates that the room is for the exclusive use of persons of one sex and the person is not legally classified on the person's birth certificate as a member of that sex."

    This doesn't apply to people entering because of their job, someone assisting another person, a child who needs assistance, or the physically disabled.

    Class 1 misdemeanor

    As to bitching about the birth certificate issue, again, if you are male, stay out of the women's restroom and the problem is solved. Transsexuals post SRS can get their birth certificate changed. Many states allow this. Anyone can get a copy of their certificate.

    "A birth certificate or a certified copy of an original birth certificate is becoming increasingly important as a required form of identification. A birth certificate is required for getting a US passport and is considered valid proof if US citizenship by federal, state and local government agencies. A birth certificate may be required when applying for some jobs and may, in the future, be required when getting or renewing a driver's license."

    There is no reason why a male can't use the men's facilities. So, please stop whining.

  24. Thanks for making this post. Its really enraging that these men continually deny the womanhood of butch women and act as if butch women aren't ALSO afraid of rapists and perverts in the restroom. But of course in gender la la land all that shit is supposed to magically go away if you're butch or read by idiots as "masculine". Fuck these men and their little mentally disturbed handmaids.

  25. How ironic that an anti-transgender law would rebound and affect TERFs. I guess you're not real woman after all? Your hate and short-sightness blinds you to the real fact that non-traditional women that arnt accepted by men will be attacked by laws made by men, transgender or not.

    If a man wants to commit violence towards a woman, he doesnt need to wear a wig and bra, take hormones for years and mutilate his genitals, he can forcibly enter the bathroom just fine. To say that all transgender are sexual predators is an impressively retarded "analysis". Combining violent transgender statistics with violent men statistics and saying its all the same is dishonest.

    But TERFs arnt known for intelligence, honesty or even staying loyal to their ideology, so no surprise there.

  26. Combining violent transgender statistics with violent men statistics and saying its all the same is dishonest.


    Combining violent (biological male who identifies as transgender) statistics with violent men statistics and saying its all the same is NOT dishonest.

    If you don't believe me, then read the court records for Sherri (Richard) Masbruch who, by the way, the State of California placed in a women's prison.

    Warning! Court records are very graphic

    "Defendant sat Marietta on a kitchen chair and tied her hands and feet with a cloth parrot cage cover. He then said he wanted jewelry and money. The two women directed defendant to various locations of the house. After exploring each proposed area, defendant returned to the kitchen, and the women suggested another location. They "figured if [they] cooperated that he wouldn't kill [them]. When he would go upstairs, [they] would talk and think of different places where money might be, so if he got enough that he would just leave [them] alone." Mary "could only really see [defendant's] feet" during most of this period.

    Defendant then blindfolded the women. Mary noticed that "[i]t was quiet for awhile." Defendant then turned Mary on her side. "[I]t felt like he had taken a butcher knife and started at [her] knee and just ran it as slow as he could all the way down to [her] ankle. [She] was screaming, because it was ... the most excruciating pain you could think of. It was like to the bone. [She] kept waiting to feel the fluid of the blood coming out and [she] didn't feel it and [she] didn't know what he'd done." Defendant had apparently spliced several electrical cords together and shocked Mary with this makeshift instrument. Defendant also shocked Marietta's right arm. After he finished, defendant said, "That's a warning to show you what I can do to you."

    Defendant "unhogtied" Mary and went through her pockets for money. He then unzipped her pants. Mary said, "You're not going to rape me?" [13 Cal. 4th 1005] Defendant said, "Shut up." He forced his penis into her vagina. He complained that Mary "wasn't cooperating," and used his hands to stretch her vaginal area apart. He then sodomized her."

    Combining violent male statistics with violent men statistics and saying its all the same is TRUE.

  27. I have in the past confronted men/trannies in women's restrooms and it wasn't pretty. I will harass/report you until you leave the area. Hopefully you will be arrested.

    And Dirt, there is no woman so butch that she passes for a man. I can tell, it takes two seconds. I can also read a tranny in two seconds flat.

    Pheremones and bone structure can not be altered. There is an intuitive side to gender and I can 'feel' a person's gender regardless of their dress, haircut, or behavior. Most of us can.

    Gays and lesbians need to drop the "T" in GLBT and move on without them. There is no "there-there."

  28. It's people like you ^ that make me glad I have marriage rights and you don't. I'm not issuing a death threat, but I do hope you die soon. The rest of the queers have no use for your hateful shit. And no, you can't "read" me.

  29. 10:37,
    you wish death on me but I refuse to offer anything but best wishes to you. I hope you find a mental health facility and work through your anger issues. There is no reason to threaten someone, on the internet or not, because you disagree with them. That is not only immature but indicates sociopathy.

    Again, the gay community needs to reconsider the inclusion of transexuals. They are not on our side, they don't relate to us, and they often times wish us death when they disagree with us. Is that something we want to hang around?

    This whole bathroom matter is bad PR for us because heteros muddy up the issue between us and trannies. We are not them, they are not us. But the world doesn't understand that.

    I wish happiness, prosperity, and mental health for us all, regardless of where we are at in lfe.

    If you are a young woman who is considering 'transition' please read everything on this wonderful website and do not let others pressure you into abusing your body.

  30. It also pisses off Intersex people when Trans people try and use Intersex people to justify the Trans community. It just goes to show that the Male Trans will stop at nothing including using Intersex people as pawns in their perversion and seeking harm on others. It's why the Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals should drop Trans like a Hot potato and ditch them.

  31. fucking ugly bull dykes. If you hate men so much, why don't you go somewhere there are no men at all. Next time you need something fix, when you are eating something, think of men. Because there are sure as hell almost no female trade or farming. That is right, you CAN'T. You need us bull dagger.

  32. To Anon @ March 29, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    You don't know butches very well. On average, my butch friends tend to be incredibly competent people. They can fix the car, replace a leaking pipe and tile the floor on time and under budget, all the while they're planning tonight's dinner in their head.

    So, whatever, hater! Just because the women here don't worship the almighty penis and don't want them in our changing rooms, doesn't mean we hate men. That kind of thinking is far too simplistic for the complex women that frequent this site.



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