UnStraightening Lesbian-Removing the Heterosexual Lens (Part 2)

As our readers know, we have been doing a series of posts exposing some of the numerous offenders who have posed as "Lesbian Experts" but who are neither lesbian nor expert.

So far, we have covered: Susie Bright, Pat/rick Califia, Rachel Pepper, and JoAnn Loulan.
Our next group of wrongdoers share similarities with our first batch.  The main similarity they all share is the fact that each of them is guilty of widely broadcasting false information about lesbians while widely promoting themselves as having "expertise" regarding lesbian lives.

All of our perpetrators have all also profited from incorrectly speaking for and about real lesbians, gaining both money and fame by promoting their fabrications about lesbian lives.

Below, we will give a brief preview of why these individuals made our list of the infamous, and, as before, we will then follow-up with separate posts on each.

Without further ado, and in no particular order of offensiveness, here are the next 4 culprits of our "Dirty Dozen":

1). Amber Hollibaugh:

Hollibaugh has been a well-known figure for many years, primarily known and quoted as a "Lesbian Expert", although, as we will demonstrate in our future post, she is neither.

Hollibaugh has published books/articles, participated in many lectures/conversations/interviews, has been revered by many as an "expert" on lesbian matters, and has even been included in Smith College's Voices In Feminism Oral History Project.

According to her publisher, Duke University Press:
"Amber L. Hollibaugh is a lesbian sex radical, ex-hooker, incest survivor, gypsy child, poor-white-trash, high femme dyke...She explores the concept of labeling and the associated issues of categories such as butch or femme, transgender, bisexual, top or bottom, drag queen, b-girl, or drag king...Having informed many of the debates that have become central to gay and lesbian activism, Hollibaugh’s work challenges her readers..."
As an initial teaser to preview our more substantial post on Hollibaugh, let's look at just a few quotes from Hollibaugh herself:

This quote is from her Smith College interview, talking about looking for a female partner since she decided to call herself a "lesbian":  (Our comment to this quote: Huh??):
"You’re not looking for girl...the signifier is a girl that’s a boy that’s a girl." (pg. 50)
And another quote from the Smith College interview, talking about dating men (which is not very "lesbian" of her, now is it?):
"I’d been very ruthless about men, didn’t really, I don’t know— I was in love with love...that period was a period where I started to have a lot of sex, I was either 16 or 17, and I wanted, I had started to believe in great love..." (pg.52)
One last teaser quote from Hollibaugh in the same Smith College interview, this time discussing her work as a prostitute while also calling herself a "lesbian":
"...it is confusing when you are hooker, because you are doing it for work, and so you don’t know whether you would— how that’s affecting you— whether women look good because they aren’t men, or whether you are actually independently attracted to women. Uh, and I wasn’t quite sure how I thought about it. I wasn’t prepared to stop fucking men, I actually never had trouble having sex with men." (pg.59)
It seems pretty clear that Hollibaugh isn't a lesbian from these few quotes alone, but her true warped, confused, attention-seeking Straightbian nature will become increasingly clear in our future separate post on her.

2). Gayle Rubin:
Rubin, along with our previously featured offender Pat/rick Califia pooled their resources perversions into Samois, "the first lesbian BDSM organization" in 1978. According to this source,
"In June 1978, Califia and two friends, including author Gayle Rubin, decided to form a specifically lesbian SM support group.  By reaching out to their personal networks and hanging posters in the gay leather bars, the organizers attracted seventeen women to the first meeting.  They soon settled on dual foci of educational and political activities, and SM group sex parties in which members could participate.  Members hoped to support their own erotic lives while also responding to attacks on SM from the larger women’s movement."
Rubin is hailed as "a pioneering theorist and activist in feminist, lesbian and gay, queer, and sexuality studies since the 1970s" (in the Amazon promo for her book, Deviations).

If "pioneering" equals "perverted", then...um...sure, let's go with that.

As just one teaser quote to lead into our upcoming post on Rubin, we will leave you with just this on statement regarding pedophilia (!!!) that should make any sane and thinking person's hair stand up on the back of her neck:
"Youth Liberation has argued for some time that young people should have the right to have sex as well as not to have it, and with whom they choose. The statutory structure of the sex laws has been identified as oppressive and insulting to young people. A range of sexual activities are legally defined as molestation, regardless of the quality of the relationship or the amount of consent involved. ...
The recent career of boy-love in the public mind should serve as an alert that the self-interests of the feminist and gay movements are linked to simple justice for stigmatized sexual minorities. ... We must not reject all sexual contact between adults and young people as inherently oppressive."

~ Gayle Rubin, lesbian feminist, in Leaping Lesbian, February, 1978
3). Shar Rednour:
Shar Rednour is yet another person who is widely viewed as a "lesbian sexpert".  The following is from her Amazon bio:
"Shar wrote the empowering, hilarious whole-life anthem for Femmes of most ages and all genders: The Femme’s Guide to the Universe, nominated for a Lambda Literary Award...Shar Rednour worked at the original On Our Backs Magazine/Fatale Media both as an editor/writer and in video production. In 1998 she co-founded her own production company with her wife Jackie. Their explicit sex education films were best-selling and critically acclaimed and include the cult classic Bend Over Boyfriend."
A couple of important notes on the above quote from her bio:

A).  A true Femme is a lesbian and therefore a female; thus the words "for Femmes of most ages and all genders" is a whole truckload of poppycock baloney bullshit malarkey.

B).  All of our offenders are intricately interconnected; our readers will recall Susie Bright's involvement with On Our Backs.

C).  Shar's wife, Jackie, has now apparently been sucked into the quicksand of Straightbian's partners everywhere: the trans trend. Jack, as she now calls herself, currently describes herself as follows on her website: "They are a Trans-Butch singer/songwriter."

D). Shar and Jackie's "cult classic" sex education porn video, Bend Over Boyfriend, covered "the practice of a woman penetrating a man's anus with a strap-on dildo (known as pegging)"; because...well, apparently, as (allegedly) lesbian filmmakers, they must have said to themselves: "since we're lesbians and all, we should make a video of how best to bang your boyfriend!!" Ummm yeah.

As with our other offenders, the above information is almost all you need to know about Shar Rednour, but we will continue the exploration of her harmful messages in our follow-up post about her.

4). Joan Nestle:
Ah, Joan.  Where shall we start with you?  So much to say, so little space!

Let's start with the fact that Nestle was the editor of the hideous lesbian anthology, The Persistent Desire, in which so much misinformation was crammed into one book that if you open it randomly to any page, cover your eyes, and randomly point, there is a 99.526746538% chance that the paragraph your finger falls upon is complete and utter foolishness.

Let's also note that Nestle has a voluminous resume of lesbian publications and speaking engagements and is widely regarded as a "lesbian expert" who "is an award-winning author of lesbian literature, both fiction and nonfiction. She is the cofounder of the Lesbian Herstory Archives."

Despite being highly lauded by multitudes as a "lesbian expert", let's examine a few Joan Nestle quotes, all taken from The Persistent Desire:
"The first adult person I loved and lusted after was a gay man" (pg. 256)
"in graduate school, I even had a man as a mistress. I never let him fuck me, but I jerked him off, I went down on him, I did everything to play with this thing called a penis" (pg. 257)

"I was dating a tough guy, Denny...Denny felt me up in the movies and gave me huge hickeys...It was so clear to me that there was a way to be sexual and I had to find it. All this has to do with how I came to my femmeness." (pg. 260) 

"The first time I slept with a man, he masturbated me and I came." (pg. 260)
"I was more attracted to men who were smooth operators.  They excited me." (pg. 260) 
Let's examine these quotes of Joan Nestle's more closely:

What is obvious from these quotes is that Nestle is physically attracted to males, and, by her own admission, actively sought out and enjoyed sexual contact with males. This is NOT LESBIAN. (Even though later-in-life lesbians often have had previous relationships with men, they universally report that they were never truly attracted to them).

Although there is much more to say about Nestle, the above quotes are more than enough to reveal why she made our "Dirty Dozen" offender list.

The information above is just a very small sample of the huge amount of information that we found on this group of 4 offenders, proving that these women are neither lesbian nor expert.

We will delve more deeply into each of these women in future posts.  Stay tuned... 

Mrs Dirt and Dirt


  1. Dirt,
    Thank you for mentioning that anti-woman rag "On Our Backs." The OOB scene was most popular on the west coast, and it truly damaged the lesbian communities in Los Angeles and San Francisco. The 1980's created the Straightbian (thank you for that term) movement which mostly mimicked the worst aspects of gay male culture at the time. S/M, materialism, and other
    traits of gay club culture was embraced by these false lesbians and used to hurt and abuse real lesbians.

    OOB was a cruel parody of the very formidable "Off Our Backs" which published concerns about lower and working class women, as well as addressing child abuse and violence against women. OOB embraced violence against women by showing women in restraints, being humiliated, mocking female sex abuse victims, and overall pandering to their mostly perverse, heterosexual male readership.
    Many of the women involved with OOB were 'leaders' of the lesbian social scene, and formed sadistic policies against non-S/M women, such as publicly insulting, humiliating, and ostracizing more thoughtful women. Some of these 'lesbians' were in fact working as call girls for men. Many became serious drug users and a few have sadly committed suicide.

    It was a very sick and toxic scene and I feel that the older lesbians from that era on the west coast have been permanently injured by OOB and it's Straightbian leadership.

    Thanks again, Mr. and Mrs. Dirt.

  2. Hi! Thanks for your comment and for all the information which further illustrates why we are so adamant in pointing out that these women who are revered as "lesbian experts" are not worthy of that title, and what they are doing/saying is actually harmful to lesbians.

    One note I needed to clarify: Dirt isn't a "Mr."; we are both female and proud of it! :-)

    Thanks again, and let us know if you have any information or anybody you would like for us to cover in future posts.

    Saye (AKA Mrs. Dirt)

  3. There are so many lines that I'm crossing here. Firstly, gay men DO NOT challenge lesbian identity. Secondly, we do not single out individuals as targets. BUT, Joan Nestle's 'presentations' have been so destructive for both gay men and lesbians, that I'm obliged to "jump the fence". Up to you whether I fall into welcoming arms or dry New Mexico sand.

  4. "On Our Backs" was a sick anti-feminist parody of "Off Our Backs".
    However much we may disagree, I would like to feel there's a certain core feminism that we share, and which does NOT encompass the frankly sadomasochistic Joan Nettle or Pat(rick) Califia.


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