Homosexual Diagnostic Criteria in Children: for the purpose of Clarity, NOT Pathology

Homosexuality in Children

A marked difference between how one experiences their BS (birth sex) beginning with but not limited to or not necessarily including: toy choices, clothing choices, colour choices, games, interests, hobbies, fantasies, make believe play, activities, future occupational interests, playmates/peers and same BS (birth sex) crushes as manifested by a continued duration from early childhood leading into adolescence.

  1. A strong desire to play with toys that do not conform to BS (birth sex) and in some cases do conform to BS (birth sex), but in either case, both choices of how toys are played with are incongruent with societal sex standards. Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls playing with trucks, cars, GI Joe or action figures. Lesbian girls who play with dolls but assign non-heterosexual roles to them. Gay boys who might want to play with baby dolls. Gay boys who might want to have an Easy-Bake Oven or homemaker toys. Gay boys who might want to have a BB gun or dirt bike etc.
  2. A strong desire to wear clothing that does not wear them. Whether clothing designated by societal standards as for their BS (birth sex) or clothing designated opposite their BS (birth sex), the prime desire is functionality and comfort first, social regulations last. Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls who might want to wear clothing assigned opposite their BS (birth sex). Lesbian girls who might want to wear clothing in accordance to their BS (birth sex) but do not want the male attention it may attract. Gay boys who might want to wear clothing assigned opposite their BS (birth sex) such as dresses, skirts, blouses etc. Gay boys who might prefer to wear clothing assigned to their BS (birth sex).
  3. A strong predilection toward colours assigned to opposite BS (birth sex), but not limited to opposite BS (birth sex). Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls who prefer blues or greens to pinks or purples. Lesbian girls who prefer pinks or purples but are not comfortable with what these colours signify about girls..(girls are weak or less than). Gay boys who prefer pinks and purples etc. Gay boys who prefer blues and greens.
  4.  A difference in interests, play styles and game/activity choices that is distinguishable from heterosexual peers. Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls who might choose to be the "daddy" or "husband" when playing house. Lesbian girls who might want to play rough N tumble with boys. Lesbian girls who might want to play house without a husband. Lesbian girls who might want to be the one who saves the princess. Lesbian girls who might want to be the hero of the story etc Gay boys who might want to play dress up. Gay boys who might want to be the princess. Gay boys who might want to be the football or pee wee baseball captain. Gay boys who might be terrible at sports/athletics. Gays boys who might be natural athletes etc. 
  5.  A strong persistent desire to be in occupations incongruent with their BS (birth sex). Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls who might want to be sports coaches, lawyers, welders, masons, truck drivers, doctors, presidents, rock stars etc. Gay boys who might want to be nurses, teachers, decorators, florists, musicians, artists, beauticians etc. 
  6. A strong predilection toward opposite BS (birth sex) peers or same BS (birth sex) peers. Including but not limited to the following: Lesbian girls who prefer and/or primarily play with/are friends of boys. Lesbian girls who prefer and/or play with/are friends with other girls. Gay boys who prefer to play with/are friends with girls. Gay boys who prefer/are friends with mainly other boys. 
  7. A strong persistent attraction (crush) toward a same sex peer/friend/teacher/story/film character etc beginning in early childhood. 
Bear in mind a small percentage of lesbians and homosexuals will not find themselves in every example, but finding themselves in a number of these examples may be an indication of homosexuality/lesbianism. 



  1. I remember my mother hiding my favourite pants, they were red and baggy, torn at the bottoms from how much I had worn them. I would wear boxer shorts instead of traditional 'girls underwear'. My mother eventually threw away the pants and I got the idea that boxers for girls are not acceptable.

    Today, I don't like how my preference for such clothing would indicate some sort of 'masculinity' or maleness. I don't like being asked how I ID. I didn't change sex or 'gender' (which as is actually a system of compulsory heterosexuality and patriarchy) simply by changing clothes and energy. I have used the word masculinity to describe butch women - this was also at the introduction of the new more hetero-aligned queer theory. This was a mistake. If femininity is tied to female then aren't butch women also doing female, women and femininity different?

    I am in no way butch as far as lesbianism is concerned.

    There is an odd conflation of the persistence of butch/femme labels and its rejection, leading us young into labels such as queer. The odd conflation is how perhaps butch/femme and the request that you state how and what you are - having even been provided the label futch - took us into queer theory which has now decided to strictly enforce gender essentialism with its relation to dominant trans theories.

    Many of us didn't want to be read as either butch/femme but now queer theory has betrayed us! Queer theory coupled with dominant Trans politics has asserted the idea of that is female and male as 'natural' feminine masculine *stereotypes* to be applied to all of us. We did not consent to all of this - especially same-sex loving people, this is a Trojan horse to our politics.

    As a queer person of 25 I'm honestly confused. I see a lot of the patters you have listed in myself growing up. My mother tried very hard to discourage the aesthetics of my sexuality. I'm worried for all the baby homo's who are caught up in this wave of gender and sex confusion.

    But my first guess, especially looking at the people I know whom are transgender is that you are lesbian, gay or bisexual! Don't jump to flood your body with chemicals and opt for dangerous surgeries on your healthy body! Let your body's health guide you and help balance out the storm in your mind and heart.

    Lesbians don't have to become men! Women don't naturally walk around in pink bubble dressed and high-heels! You can change clothing and behavior without professing to be changing sex - that is impossible and a dangerous attempt for a young person!

    We will keep the fight for the truth and a consciousness of liberation from heterosexuality and patriarchy.

    -Pila, Africa

    1. Please, explain to me how being depressed by having a female body and feeling detached from that body, having a phantom penis, etc., and not actually being attracted to women makes someone a lesbian.

      I always kind of thought homosexuality had to do with, you know, sexuality.

  2. Pila - Love your comment, and will reply more intelligently later. For the moment, your first line reminds me of a very old song "Love to see you walking, In your baggy pants". An old (hopefully not creepy) guy from your granddad's generation, Petre

    1. I look forward to hearing your response
      - P, Africa

    2. Pila,

      I "came out" in 1972, when I was sixteen years old, though hardly anybody can have been surprised enough to justify the expression "coming out". My mother went through the motions, of course.
      I lived my teenage years in what was popularly known as "the lesbian squat", though at least one other man lived there too, along with eight women.

      We scorned any notion of butch/femme. If you read your history books, you may learn that we favoured "androgyny", though we scorned that term too. We scorned pretty much everything. But a memory comes back to me of an older lesbian, an habituée of the Gateways Club in London, who told me: "If you don't know who is the butch in your relationship, or you think there's none, then it's probably you." Words which have come back to haunt me, as I find myself (rather uncomfortably) in that role with my partner. Only in the bedroom, and if he's happy, then so am I. You're too young to remember the expression "Butch on the streets, bitch in the sheets." He's much more complicated than that, but it gives you an idea, nasty though the expression is.

      Women very rarely wear male-defined underpants for fetishistic reasons, while men (straight or gay) very rarely wear women's panties for any other reason. The notion of "symmetry" between sexes/genders is one of the BIG LIES used by trans-advocates, amongst others: part of the smoke-screen.

      The day (my day) will never come back when Gay Liberationists were happy to be defined as the "male auxiliary" of the Women's Liberation Movement. But I think solidarity between lesbians and gay men is still possible on a more individual level. Simply by age, I am inoculated against the "queer theory" shit. I'm sorry you fell prey to it, but you seem to be recovering (-:

      I'm conscious that I promised an "intelligent" response, and am not at all sure I've delivered. But I'm open to further discussion.

  3. So, someone who dresses like, plays with, or otherwise acts like the stereotype of the other gender is gay, regardless of who they are attracted to?

    Dirt, you sound like my great-grandma.


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