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Saturday, July 11, 2015

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning-Eugenics Genecis Program now Transitioning Gay/Lesbian Kids

Jame-Age 16

Jay-Age 18

KC-Age 16

Fawn-Age 19

Kai-Age 22

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Noah-Age 16

Jac-Age 22 

Fuzzy-Age 20

Not surprisingly (now that its legally diagnosable in children) since the DSM-V emerged a few years ago (2013), schools have been flooded with information on how best to ferret out "transgender" gay/lesbian children and school policies forged on how best to fix them. The diagnostics's forty days and nights of new and approved mental illnesses have also awash the landscape with a deluge of transgender clinics sprouting up like hungry Venus flytraps ravenously awaiting their next homosexual feeding.

One such eugenics clinic is GENECIS, (yeah I noticed the word proximity too-scary!) who boast of having treated a whopping 102 children!
“For very young children, as they work with their therapist, they can continue to explore their gender identity in a safe way, because puberty blockers are pretty safe, and it’s reversible," she says.

This is the garbage heap, programs like Genecis are shoveling to unknowing/fearful parents/school authorities. A big so-what-if-we're-wrong, these hormone blocking drugs wont harm your child. And whether or not he or she transitions, its all good either way, no harm done! No information on possible side effects, definite side effects, permanent side effects or the pending lawsuits over the side effects!
Hmmm, interestingly puberty blockers can harm a growing fetus, but not a growing/developing child outside the womb??

More Genecis Gender Straight Jacket propaganda aimed at scaring parents into transitioning their gay or lesbian child:
The claim that 60% of gender dysphoric gender non conforming youth attempt suicide has no reference whatsoever, unless we're counting pulling a number out of your asshole a reference. Genecis also fails to define who or what is gender non conforming; Boys who take an early interest in cooking and who might have grown up to be master chefs? Boys who played house with girls? Boys who want an Easy Bake Oven? (My older brother had one-boy would he be in trouble today!) Girls who excelled at hopscotch, kickball or hide and go seek? Girls who are presidents of their class? Girls who want to grow up to be the President?

After further digging, I discovered the asshole that Genecis has artfully cultivated to frighten parents into transitioning obvious gay/lesbian children with. Genecis's 60% of trans-suicide thoughts comes from a small study of 123 youths from 2012 (pre-dating the DSM-V), and this study in itself is a lark. Of the 123 youths, only 84 were used in order to best present the results the study was seeking to prove, i.e. transgender youths are highly at risk for suicide if not transitioned asap. Of those 84, 25% respondents indicated their parents were somewhat supportive of them being transgender, while 42% indicated their parents were totally against. Because the number of participants who had at some point in the past year for ANY reason had a suicidal thought werent high enough, the study combined the 25% and the 42% to get 67%. Therefore the study isolated the 67% from the 84 (which you remember was isolated from the 123), to then claim 60% of the 67% had thought about suicide (thought-NOT attempted) in the past year!

Biased transgender suicide studies such as these universally conclude:


But what youths are REALLY at risk for suicide? And whose teen suicidal narratives are transgender/pro-transgender cultist using/abusing? And what happens to that 60% number when we remove the T-transgender? 
As purposefully difficult as it is to find gay/lesbian studies irrespective of transgender these days, this study from 2004 on GL(B) youths/suicide, more than 37% of GLB youths didnt merely THINK about killing themselves, they TRIED to kill themselves! Concluding reasons for their wanting to die?

"Sexual orientation alone accounts for only a small portion of variability in suicidal ideation and attempts. If protective factors were enhanced among GLB youth, suicide in this population is expected to be considerably lower. Protective factors examined here are amenable to change and should be targeted in interventions." I feel a sense of deja vu, didnt we just read that same conclusion for the current mental health requirements for transgender youths, quite COMPLETELY irrespective of gay and lesbian youths?!!

Gay and lesbian factual health risks, mental health risks and over all life narratives (particularly negative aspects) are being co-opted/twisted and used as scare tactics to sell transgenderism gay/lesbian conversion therapy to the general public, school authorities and parents alike! But for the HIGH price of their transgender purchase, what exactly are parents buying their daughters and sons?

"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population." and "This study found substantially higher rates of overall mortality, death from cardiovascular disease and suicide, suicide attempts, and psychiatric hospitalisations in sex-reassigned transsexual individuals compared to a healthy control population."

Had gay/lesbian children/youth merely had parents and authority figures to care, accept and support their natural differences, rather than chemically/surgically reshape them into something seemingly hetero (masculine/feminine) normative/acceptable, we could bury transition-conversion therapies and stop burying our now transgendered children/teens and adults.

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  1. the girl with the side by side was soo pretty. until the drugs aged her out.... so sad

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  2. Genecis also fails to define who or what is gender non conforming; Boys who take an early interest in cooking and who might have grown up to be master chefs? Boys who played house with girls? Boys who want an Easy Bake Oven? (My older brother had one-boy would he be in trouble today!) Girls who excelled at hopscotch, kickball or hide and go seek? Girls who are presidents of their class? Girls who want to grow up to be the President?

    Dirt, don't you know that "gender" is special. It doesn't have to make sense to be accepted.

    (1.) "Gender non-conforming" is whatever people say it is.
    (2.) What might appear as "gender non-conforming" to one person might not be "gender non-conforming" to another person.
    (3.) In reality, "gender" is nothing more than culturally based stereotypes. It's impossible to explain "gender non-conforming" to someone without resorting to sex stereotypes of how society views proper "feminine" and "masculine" behavior.

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  3. They know full well that this bullsh** about GnRH agonists (puberty suppressing drugs) "buying time" is only partly true at best. If GnRH agonists are followed by cross gender hormones, infertility is an issue. They know full well that some kids go straight from puberty suppressing drugs to cross gender hormones. Pumping a kid full of cross gender hormones before their bodies have the time to sexually mature renders them infertile.

    I posted this before, but it is worth repeating.

    Treatment with puberty delaying drugs leads to sterilization if it is followed with the administration of cross sex hormones at 16 years, as the Brill and Pepper handbook on “transgender” children (2008), explains, “the choice to progress from GnRH inhibitors to estrogen without fully experiencing male puberty should be viewed as giving up one’s fertility, and the family and child should be counseled accordingly” (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 216). For girls, sterilization is the outcome too, because “eggs do not mature until the body goes through puberty” (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 216).

    Do parents have the right to compromise the future fertility of their children? This could be construed as a human rights violation.

    Deliberate delaying a normal part of human development, adolescence, because of what basically amounts to a questionable psychiatric diagnosis in healthy children assumes all the following:

    (a.) The diagnosis of “gender dysphoria” is correct to being with, and there isn’t something else going on in the child’s life.

    (b.) The child is completely free from any parental, peer, or cultural influences. How much is “gender dysphoria” in a 12 year old child, and how do we separate this from everything the parents read on transgender websites and blogs? How much is actual “gender dysphoria” or GID and how much is parental discomfort at having a child that doesn’t fit neatly into sex based gender roles?

    (c.) Children have the mental capacity to decide or choose for themselves.

    It’s a scientific fact that the pre-frontal cortex of the human brain which is sometimes called the judgment center of the brain isn’t fully developed until the early to mid-twenties.

    The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the “CEO of the brain.” This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of “correct” behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals. This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise “good judgment” when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.

    We don't let teenagers take out bank loans or buy alcohol or cigarettes, but they are supposedly mature enough to willingly give up their fertility and possibly endanger their health. The fact that children feel different doesn't mean that they possess the maturity to make informed decisions.

    Drugging children with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones is a human rights abuse.

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  4. It's just like I suspected. Endocrinologists have bought into all things "gender dysphoric", trans, because as a medical specialty, it's not as lucrative as other specialties (heart surgery, orthopedic surgery). They can make hella $$ with the drugging of children with GnRH agonists, and in the U.S. they are expensive. There is nothing physically wrong with endocrine system of these children. The real issues involve cultural factors (parents see some trans thing on t.v. or read something online and say their kid is now trans). In children, how is it possible to distinguish between cultural factors and parental attitudes and "gender dysphoria".

    The claim that 60% of gender dysphoric gender non conforming youth attempt suicide has no reference whatsoever, unless we're counting pulling a number out of your asshole a reference.

    They quote that 60% on their website even though it sure looks like something that they pulled out of their ass. On the website, I didn't see an source associated with this percentage. We say it's true, and transgender sources say it's true, so it must be true. I guess they figure that if they scare enough parents they will fork over hella $$$ for those expensive GnRH agonists, "gender therapists", etc.

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  5. Besides the ethical issue of sterilizing children, there is also the touchy subject of gay and lesbian eugenics. I know this is Texas, so there could be some parents and medical professionals who think gay and lesbian eugenics is actually a good thing. Well, no it's not. Besides, what parent wants their child to be tethered to the medical system for his or her lifetime because "transitioning" is a life time of hormones, surgery, etc.

    According to, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981931

    “Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality.”

    Questions for medical ethics boards:

    (1.) Do parents have the right to sterilize their children?
    (2.) Do parents have the right to engage in what some might characterize as a peculiar form of gay and lesbian eugenics?


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  6. This article about the clinic really pulls numbers and percentages out of their ass. The website says 60%, and this article about the clinic, the 60% magically jumps to 80%. WTF is going on?

    "Some studies suggest that 80 percent of transgender teens attempt suicide"

    http://www.dallasnews.com/lifestyles/health-and-fitness/health/20150604-mckinney-mom-also-faces-transition-while-finding-help-for-transgender-daughter.ece

    The good endocrinologist says almost 50% in this article.

    http://keranews.org/post/whats-gender-dysphoria-15-year-old-will-tell-you

    It went from 50% to 60%, and now it's 80%. It's sad when kids are depressed and I support mental health treatment, but these biased statistics that they pull out of their ass, or find at some trans source appears to be a tool to scare parents into going along with the "transitioning" of their children. Don't give your kid "blockers" and they might commit suicide. Why not just say, "Don't give your kid liposuction or a nose job, and they might be so depressed they will attempt suicide. They conveniently tie the questionable 50, 60, or 80% to "treatment" which they know full well can sterilize children.

    Any kid who is different is going to be moody and depressed (too fat, nerdy looking, etc.), but they aren't drugged with GnRH agonists for their depression.

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  7. "the girl with the side by side was soo pretty. until the drugs aged her out.... so sad"

    Fuck you.
    This person is still so beautiful. Always will be. You want to find a way to attack the MIC, do it without calling people "aged out" and putting down their bodies.

    WtF is wrong with you people?

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  8. I once became very suicidal after discovering this site existed.

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  9. Unless you have been through testosterone treatment, maybe you shouldn't talk about the pain of being sterilized by it. Because that pain doesn't belong to you. It isn't your body, it isn't your story. FIND ANOTHER METHOD OF CRITIQUE.

    back off trans bodies if you don't claim to have one.

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  10. ONLY trans people can USE trans bodies to disrupt oppressive chemical processes in critical narratives.

    People who don't have a woman's body shouldnt own websites that talk about the pain of having one either. It's weird and violating.

    Dirt you don't have a trans body. Fuck off. Stay out of and away from our community.

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  11. Unless you have been through testosterone treatment, maybe you shouldn't talk about the pain of being sterilized by it.

    WTF does this mean?

    Dirt you don't have a trans body. Fuck off. Stay out of and away from our community.

    What exactly is a "trans body", and how does a 5 or 6 year old kid know they have one? This boy thought was a girl, but apparently the "trans body" magically disappeared.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2224753/Ria-Cooper-Britains-youngest-sex-change-patient-reverse-treatment.html

    Google "detransition". What happens to the "trans body"? Does it mysteriously change?

    "the girl with the side by side was soo pretty. until the drugs aged her out.... so sad"

    Fuck you.


    It looks like someone could be experiencing a "T" fueled anger outburst.

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    1. Sounds like more transphobic, anger pathologizing/dismissive bullshit from dumbass people who don't know what their talking about. But no i don't take T, not everyone who disagrees with you takes T. Not everyone who experiences anger takes T. Obviously.

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    2. "This person is still so beautiful. Always will be. You want to find a way to attack the MIC, do it without calling people "aged out" and putting down their bodies.

      WtF is wrong with you people?"

      You conveniently didn't quote this part of the "T fueled outburst.
      it was really important. so im putting it here again.

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  12. I detransitioned from a childhood of hormones and I have a trans body... its an identity not a body... what's your fucking point?

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  13. Dirt's just a troll from hell. She's no feminist in a modern patriarchal landscape and she has nothing productive to say.

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    1. You sure spend an awful lot of your time here considering.

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    2. so do you and you're not even trans so you have nothing to defend here you loser asshole

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    3. Um, it's Dirt's site. So that would be why she's here. 😊

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    4. that's an awesome observation thank you

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  14. Unless you have been through testosterone treatment, maybe you shouldn't talk about the pain of being sterilized by it. Because that pain doesn't belong to you. It isn't your body, it isn't your story

    It doesn't have to happen in the first place, and children and girls really do matter.

    This is really confusing to me, and I do sympathize with this individual. Is this person saying that being sterilized through puberty suppressing drugs and/or testosterone is painful? If so, that is sad to me. Why not just say, "We won't drug children and potentially sterilize them". No, can't do that because it's a personal thing. According to this logic, people who didn't undergo lobotomies (pick whatever human experiment because the list is long) shouldn't speak about the procedure because they didn't personally experience it.

    I will keep repeating this until it sinks in. Most rational people view the sterilization of children as a human rights abuse. I hope to hell they are right about what they are doing.

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    1. Thanks so much for your interest in "helping," Im saying its an issue in our community and our community has the right to address it. You don't sound like a member of our community. I was put on testosterone for seven years but it didn't sterilize me. I share the experience with other trans kids and I tell them how I feel. But Im not going to tell you because your not trans and you don't believe in trans identities. Not that its ANY of your concern.

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    2. People who have had lobotomies cant speak for themselves, we can. We don't need you doing it for us. Get away from our community. Get away from our bodies. Get away from our lives.

      And dirt, get the fuck away from pictures of underage trans children, and stop posting them online. you creepy, creepy case.

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    3. First off, some people who've had lobotomies can speak for themselves. You don't know what a lobotomy is.

      This idea that you personally get to forbid people from talking about something that is a huge public issue, that has these public health and child human rights aspects to it is bizarre. It's exactly the sort of comment that causes people to view transgenderism as a cult. You need to get a grip on the fact that the subculture of transgenderism that you appear to live in is not the whole world. And the broader society has no obligation to help the subculture keep going. You seem to have very unrealistic ideas about how politics and society work. I think that is another side effect of transgenderism.

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    4. a lobotomy is an incision in the brain, often understood as an employment in psychiatric treatment. I'm not saying you are forbidden to discuss it, I'm saying you are discussing it poorly because you are not a victim of it, and in doing so you are causing harm. IF you cannot educate yourself well enough to discuss it with proper reverence, perhaps you should leave it to those who know enough about it to address it.

      And because we are trans and you are not, your stupidity affects us more than it does you.

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    5. I obviously don't "Get to forbid you" from discussing it, you are doing it here and now on this forum. Its a privilege you have.

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    6. transgender culture is not a cult just like womens culture is not a cult. Its just that not everyone is welcome in safe discussion. You are not us. You are not welcome.

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    7. You don't have to be a member of a particular culture/group to have a discussion about it. If so, then men could never have a conversation or question about women, nor Americans about Europeans, nor heterosexuals about gays/lesbians, etc. etc. etc. It is bizarre and immature to say "You are not one of us so you don't have a right to have a discussion". There is an incessant demand for everyone to walk on eggshells around the trans community lest their delicate feelings get trampled. If the trans community is so confident that they are correct, then why do they need everyone else's validation and approval?

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  15. Rinna Lane July 12, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    "the girl with the side by side was soo pretty. until the drugs aged her out.... so sad"

    True, and I noticed it. I don't know if this person is on "T" or not, but I do see the difference.

    Anonymous July 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    "the girl with the side by side was soo pretty. until the drugs aged her out.... so sad"

    Fuck you.
    This person is still so beautiful. Always will be. You want to find a way to attack the MIC, do it without calling people "aged out" and putting down their bodies.

    WtF is wrong with you people?


    I do agree that all these young women are beautiful. The female body is beautiful the way it is without any surgical or chemical alterations. They are beautiful just the way they are without synthetic hormones injected into their bodies, or their breast removed and their areolas and nipples surgically reshaped.

    I hate to break it to this person, but no matter what these beautiful young women do, they can't entirely escape their female bodies.

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    1. They are beautiful WITH surgery and chemical intervention. I hate to break it to you, but what you call a "female body" can never be made unbeautiful. Im saying you need to stop using fucked up language like "aged out"

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  16. They are beautiful WITH surgery and chemical intervention.

    True, but it's far more complicated than the idea that every female is beautiful after injecting chemicals and undergoing surgery on her otherwise healthy body. Do I think FTMs who take "T" and get "top surgery" are beautiful and worthy individuals. Yes, I agree because they are still female, and all people are dignified persons. All I'm saying is that it's more complicated than saying, "All these people are beautiful after plastic surgery and synthetic hormones". There was nothing beautiful about Chinese foot-finding that went on for a century or longer, or female genital mutilation that has been carried out on millions of girls. Victorian women wore constricting corsets that damaged their rib cage. All these women were victims of the current fashion statement or remedy to alter her body to fit a particular image.

    I hate to break it to you, but what you call a "female body" can never be made unbeautiful.

    What I call a "female body" is still female because females exist. No primate can change its sex. A FTM will never be able to completely erase the fact that she is female.

    (1.) Why should perfectly healthy female bodies require surgery and chemicals?

    (2.) I don't know how to bring this up, so I'll just cut to the chase. No, they are not all beautiful after surgery. There is nothing beautiful about botched "top surgery" or "bottom surgery". The thing about FTM "transitioning" is this. If it's botched, or if it's done on the wrong woman, it is very similar to female genital mutilation. Make no mistake. Botched "top surgery" and "bottom surgery" is anything but beautiful, not to mention all the excruciating pain.

    Transsexual, 44, elects to die by euthanasia after botched sex-change operation turned him into a 'monster'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2440086/Belgian-transsexual-Nathan-Verhelst-44-elects-die-euthanasia-botched-sex-change-operation.html#ixzz3fzAahy6h

    This poor woman went online to ask for donations to help repair a botched "top surgery". Thankfully, she was able to raise the money she needed.

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/if-the-nipple-falls-off-just-throw-it-in-the-garbage-when-ftm-top-surgery-goes-wrong/

    Please watch this video of "top surgery" and tell me if it looks beautiful. The surgeon is cutting away most of the areola and cutting off the nipple to surgically reshape it. The surgically trimmed down areola and nipple are then sewn back on after the elective mastectomy. Does this look beautiful? When I first watched this video in its entirety, my initial gut reaction was that I was witnessing a form of violence against the female sex.

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting

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    1. If you need to believe that females are always females, go right ahead. Thats not what I'm disputing, you are missing the point, and I don't want to argue with someone like you about that anyway. I'm saying these bodies are not for you to judge, or anyone else, regardless of what processes they've been through.

      Words off Please. Especially when we are talking about bodies that belong to specific individuals to make a theoretical point, Especially the bodies of children.

      Simply. Disgusting.

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    2. "it's far more complicated than the idea that every female is beautiful after injecting chemicals and undergoing surgery on her otherwise healthy body."

      No, actually its not. Every body is beautiful, even after undergoing what you've identified as a structural violence. Beautiful, pure and simple, beautiful bodies, often with complicated stories to tell.

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    3. This is why you need to let the trans and detansitioned communities speak for themselves and to the children and parents of children who will or might undergo these processes, you don't know what you're saying. You don't know the medical processes like we do, you don't know the structures and the violences like we do, you don't know the maze that is the MIC like we do because you haven't been put through it, and you don't know how to warn others against it like we do. You are not one of us. You think you can educate us and others by doing things like posting links to sites on surgical procedures we've been through ourselves. You mispeak, you give misinformation, you do HARM.

      You are not one of us. You will never be. Leave us alone, leave our youth alone. Leave our community alone, so we can begin to heal.

      In short, you suck at what you are attempting to do.

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    4. Why are you reading it, if it sucks so bad?

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    5. Its not gone yet. As long as it exists, there will be people who read and critique it. It's a public site.

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    6. True, and comment away...but simply whining "Leave us alone, you Big Bad Wolf" isn't going to make Dirt disappear into a poof of smoke like you apparently wish. How about presenting a well-thought-out, convincing counter-argument instead of just "Boo-hoo, you're not one of us, go away!" That would be a true critique and would make for an interesting discussion.

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  17. Dirt, you had a beautiful body before it underwent this process whereby it started to belong to someone who was famous for torturing young lives. Now there are literally thousands of people who can hardly look at your face.

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    1. Jealousy doesnt become you.

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    2. Don't flatter yourself. I only say you had a beautiful body because you yourself look like someone who couldve detransitioned.

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    3. I look like what I am a middle aged female. Trans/once trans doesn't enter into it. Your comment proves all this blog states. You actually believe what you wrote and fail to understand why or question it.

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    4. You look like you might have taken hormones. If i didn't know of you I wouldn't be able to tell if you had. you shouldn't be knocking bodies that have. Yes, i believe everyone has a beautiful body. No one's jealous of you.

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    5. Also, you don't understand what detransitioned can be. I stopped hormones, I'm STILL trans. Doesn't mean I'm not a woman, doesn't mean Im not a female. Its an experience all its own. You just haven't had it and you're not one of us. Your mind is small, and loves to compartmentalize. You don't see how trans is more than society understands it, just like "woman" is. You don't understand because you ARE that larger society. You are not trans. You are not apart of our safe spaces.

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    6. Actually I look nothing like I might have taken hormones, UNLESS you're living within the Gender Straight Jacket. Which YOU clearly are. And of which YOU clearly cannot see past, nor get past.

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    7. When health is compromised over internalized perceptions, there are no "safe" spaces.

      dirt

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    8. Think Mike Brady! Where ever you go, THERE you are! Thats a Brady Bunch reference btw.

      dirt

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    9. Part of establishing a safe trans space is establishing that health doesn't have to be compromised to honor a trans self. But you wouldn't know anything about what that means because you're not trans and therefore not welcome in those spaces.

      I'm afraid I'm not old enough for Brady Bunch references. Also I think that's originally from somewhere much more serious. Also wow.

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    10. And yes you do look like you might've taken hormones. Its not about your expression its about your skin and voice tone. Mine is very similar.

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    11. (You don't need to be upset by the implication that people cannot tell, except that it invalidates your true identity. Everyone has a right to be seen for what they are. I'm often taken as a Butch woman, which I am, but it upsets me when people do not see my transness because it is an important part of my past and present)

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    12. I'm male and have been on and off antiandrogens and estrogens for years now. I'm constantly drifting between terrible sex dysphoria and feeling of absolute hopelessness. There is nothing butchered, there is no "natural way" to unconditionally accept. You can't make impossible possible. I don't blame you for not understanding how this feels - I can't imagine not being trans either. The fact that I never identified as a woman, the fact that noone knows about me being trans doesn't invalidate my experience. Not every trans person is a person crushed by put corrupted society and quarterlife-crisis. Gender roles don't matter to me anymore. I went too far, I can be neither man nor woman in our society, I can't ever be part of it, in gender and otherwise, so trying to find some role I could play is nothing I'm interested in.
      Your problem is that you never tried to understand. You hate gender roles so you make them accountable for all evil. You seek exceptions and minorities in the trans community and present them as if they were the universal truth.
      We are not accepted. We are not accepted by therapists, by religions or by anything else. We are considered equally big freaks as you are. Not every surgery is butchered, not every person who detransitions regrets it, not every person who detransitions is no longer trans. Not every surgery is butchery, not every trans experience is bad... Did you ever think about the possibility that people who transitioned are happy in the only life they've got? That otherwise they might always have been miserable? It's plain and simple yet you oversee it even after your often quality research.

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    13. Anonymous July 16, 2015 at 5:31 PM: "...I'm afraid I'm not old enough for Brady Bunch references..."
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      Anonymous July 16, 2015 at 5:35 PM
      "And yes you do look like you might've taken hormones. Its not about your expression its about your skin and voice tone. Mine is very similar."

      Based on timing and wording, the 2 quotes above appear to be from the same commenter. Which, if so, is interesting, because this person claims to not be old enough for Brady Bunch references, but then says that her skin tone is similar to Dirt's & therefore she assumes that Dirt also must have taken hormones. Conclusion: this YOUNG person's skin tone is the similar Dirt's (and Dirt herself states that she is "middle aged"), thereby, this arguing commenter is actually proving Dirt's point that hormonal therapy is prematurely aging. Interesting.

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    14. @9:21 I have to agree with the sentiment though I see absolutely no value in it. Yes, Dirt's voice lays in the range in which the voice of many people who've previously taken testosterone lay. I don't understand however - even if Dirt took testosterone some twenty years ago, it wouldn't mean anything.
      The "skin" thing is not about aging or wrinkles rather the fact that people on testosterone get "male" acne and which Dirt has and is not very common (but not rare) in women otherwise.
      You can't spot a detransitioner like this though. Many of the women I know that took testosterone then act overtly feminine (against their own nature) in some desperate attempt to finally fit in somewhere (when the male role doesn't fit). Some become/go back to being dykes and look similar to Dirt. You can't tell the difference and why should you? Both of these are lesbian women that don't adapt to gender norms, their medical history is none of your business if they don't share it with you. I don't tell everyone I'm lactose intolerant either.

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    15. (Not the OP but thought your comment was interesting, Leopold): I really don't care about telling whether someone used to take T or not; as you said, I agree it is really their business about whether or not to share. Just wanted to say that I have read much of Dirt's blog and she is very open and blunt, so if she had started transitioning and stopped, I really believe she would just say so (and use her experience as her argument). I also have seen Dirt's videos and do not see the acne that you are referring to.

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    16. We are not the same commenter, I said the thing about dirt's appearance, and I meant nothing bad by it, for myself or for her. I simply meant that as someone who has taken testosterone (and then gone off) my body is often recognized as female, sometimes as trans. Like it would've been if I had never taken testosterone. It is a social condition that creates this for me, not my body. I remain a trans person, and pround of my trans experience and community. In the same way, I remain a lesbian/Dyke. I know this isn't true for everyone, and I think that's important too.

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    17. In other words, what I mean to illustrate with this point, is that the cruel things that are said on this site about bodies that have had testosterone in them could easily be applied to any person, and you wouldn't even necessarily know what you were talking about or who you were talking about. You need to be careful.

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    18. To Anonymous July 19, 2015 at 3:13 PM: If you see this, I had a question. And, yes, I know it might be a stupid question but I would appreciate your patience in answering. I was curious about this part of your comment: "I remain a trans person, and proud of my trans experience and community. In the same way, I remain a lesbian/Dyke." I am confused at how you can remain a lesbian/dyke and remain a trans person at the same time? Were you a lesbian before transitioning? If so, how can you remain a lesbian during transition? Please understand that I am not intending to be offensive. I am genuinely curious and would like to understand what you meant.

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  18. Words off Please. Especially when we are talking about bodies that belong to specific individuals to make a theoretical point, Especially the bodies of children.

    Simply. Disgusting.


    In other words, it's fine to experiment on physically healthy children, but please don't talk about it because it upsets us. Don't mention botched "top surgery" (scroll up and see links) because it upsets us too. Even though it's possible for any person with a computer to research it, and find examples of botched "top surgery", don't talk about it . Even some trans* blogs and sites have examples, but don't talk about it. There are a zillion and one trans blogs and videos where 10 and 11 year old girls can learn where to get a breast binder (binding can mis-align ribs and cause other health problems). These girls say that they are "pre-everything" ("T", "top surgery", etc.) There are even some trans websites that give away free breast binders to girls under 18. Just don't talk about it. I can google, FTM and "10 year old" and get about 10,200,000 hits. Just don't talk about it. When it's all over the internet and the FTM youtube channel has something like 202,000 videos, it's hard not to ignore it all. There is youtube video after youtube video of the "First T shot" as if it's a birthday celebration or something. Or, I've been on "T" for 3 months and look at me. I've been on "T" for 6 months, and look at me now. Of course, any 9 or 10 year old girl can read or see this, but don't talk about it. Maybe, just maybe this is largely a culturally based trend. It's not so much the "gender dysphoria", but the fact that kids and parents are flooded with message that trans is the new cool thing. If kids are different, then they must be trans because I saw it on one of the 202,000 FTM youtube videos, or one of a million trans* sites, or saw Chaz Bono or Jenner on t.v. We will expose 6,7,and 8 year old kids and their parents to a million and one FTM youtube videos, trans websites, etc., and Caitlyn Jenner this, and Chaz Bono that, but never, ever, say, "Wait, maybe parents should stop and think before drugging their children with puberty suppressing drugs".

    As to kids,

    We are told that anyone who thinks that drugging and sterilizing children is a human rights abuse is Simply. Disgusting.

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    1. I don't care what you think about this issue, discuss it all you want, think whatever you want, just don't hunt for and post pictures of kids online so you can examine their bodies for your discussion topic... nasty.

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  19. I don't care what you think about this issue, discuss it all you want, think whatever you want, just don't hunt for and post pictures of kids online so you can examine their bodies for your discussion topic... nasty.

    Kids are already doing this, talking about "T" (testosterone), "blockers" (GnRH agonists), and breast binders. Why do you think there are about 201,000 results when I go to youtube and type in "FTM".

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    1. They're underage KIDS they don't KNOW the implications of putting themselves online. It doesn't mean adult people should be hunting around for their images once they upload them, and then REPOST them you creeper.

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    2. Yes, they are underage kids. Yes, they don't know the implications of what they are doing...which PROVES DIRT'S POINT that these young people are not equipped to make such life-altering decisions. If they cannot be trusted to even know what to share on the internet (and to understand that it becomes public domain once it is shared on the internet), then they are not mature enough to make decisions that will forever alter the trajectory of their lives.

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    3. I'm not talking about what they're doing. im talking about what YOU are doing. Its violent and wrong. You are really dense.

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    4. Anonymous July 19, 2015 at 3:06 PM is likely the same commenter who loves to call people names when anyone doesn't agree. Typical tactic of someone who isn't capable of having a mature give-and-take discussion. Anon @ 3:06 PM, you would be taken a lot more seriously if you would simply argue your own point without stooping to immature name-calling. I am not the person you called "dense" above, but they had a good point. Therefore, I don't think they are the one who is being dense. I am sure you will call me a moron or an idiot or whatever. Go ahead. Your unkind comments don't reflect on the people you are insulting; rather, they only reflect badly on you and dilute the very arguments you are trying to make.

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  20. @Anonymous July 16, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    There are youtube videos of 12, 13, and 14 year old girls saying they are "pre-everything". They can view any of the 201,000 youtube videos on "advice" on packers, binders, "T", "top surgery", etc.

    16 years old 1 year post op top surgery

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15CAJQhXaXs

    Did I read this right....this female child got her breast removed when she was 15, and you call us monsters.

    Of course, this 16 year old shares information and tips with other kids her own age.

    "Do u know anywhere where I can get top surgery at the age of 16? I really want surgery now it's killing me."

    They're based out of San Francisco, one of the best surgeons for trans people. You can be 16.

    Howd u get surgery so young

    lots of research and phone calls

    Can you message me on Facebook ?"

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  21. They're underage KIDS they don't KNOW the implications of putting themselves online. It doesn't mean adult people should be hunting around for their images once they upload them, and then REPOST them you creeper.

    Let's get this straight. Children are being sterilized with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones. Some doctors are going straight to cross gender hormones at age 11. Females age 16 are getting "top surgery".

    I hope you right about what you are doing because this experiment on children could end up making lobotomies (pick any human experiment gone awry) look good.

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    1. You don't get it, im not arguing either way. Im saying that using these particular pictures of kids on this site is not ok. And I myself was given hormones as a kid, I'm not advocating for ending the discussion. Im saying this site is fucked up. there's a difference...

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  22. @Anonymous July 16, 2015 at 3:36 PM

    When I first saw this therapist, the first thing she asked me was, "Are you trans". I'm not the stereotypical "feminine" woman, and she assumed I must be trans. Smiling at me, her first words were, "Are you trans". I will always remember this. Butch lesbian are being assumed into non-existence. Any girl or woman who isn't a perfect Barbie doll is assumed to be trans.

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    1. Yes, this is a huge problem I would definitely agree (FINALLY). It's invalidating to people who have not experienced a trans life, and erasing to other kinds of experiences. Also, I myself feel like I cant talk about my trans experiance without being thrown into the catagory of "Man." And I'm woman identified. SUPER awful.

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    2. But once again, you're fucked up experience that you had (probably continue to have) isn't a reason to display these images. There are other ways to combat patriarchy than putting up pics of underage kids against their will.

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  23. Anonymous July 16, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    You look like you might have taken hormones

    Any woman who is different is assumed to be on "T", or is trans. Got short hair, or muscles, it's the "T".

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    1. or if someone is angry apparently.

      "It looks like someone could be experiencing a "T" fueled anger outburst."

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  24. Part of establishing a safe trans space is establishing that health doesn't have to be compromised to honor a trans self.

    This statement makes no sense. Drugging children could jeopardize their health, but they do it anyway. As to "establishing a safe trans space", I want all people to have a safe place, especially women who are now forced to share restrooms, locker rooms, , homeless shelters, jails, etc. with males. Not even a women's homeless shelter was a safe place for the victims of Christopher, "Jessica", Hambrook.

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    1. I doubt anything I say will make sense to you, because you are a fucked up person.

      transwomen are women. all women are capable of sexual assault. So is everyone else. I know you're not gonna agree with me on this, but I don't care.

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    2. So someone who does not agree with you is incapable of understanding you and is a "fucked up person". Wow. Must be nice living in a grandiose, omniscient delusion. Actually, NO: all women are NOT capable of sexual assault. It helps when you actually think about what you say before you say it. Nobody in their right mind would agree with such a ludicrous statement.

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    3. It is rape culture that perpetuates the continuous trauma experienced by sexual assault victims. Yes, I've known many people who have been raped by women. It's important to name that. Saying that all women are capable of engaging rape culture is not the same as saying all women are responsible. Also you are a violent moron.

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    4. Anon July 19, 2015 at 3:17 PM said: "I've known many people who have been raped by women". Yeah, sure you have. Real believable. Even if you do happen to personally know a plethora of people raped by "women", they were likely raped by "transwomen" (AKA men). And regardless, the statement that "ALL women are capable of sexual assault" is still just as ridiculous as the first time you said it. Violent moron, LOL! Good one. Try again, motherfucker.

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  25. I don't get the thing some of you mentioned about Dirt's voice. Sounds 100% female to me.

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    1. "female sounding" voices are a construct. But i was actually arguing that my voice sounds female to many people, I wasn't saying dirt's didn't. and before testosterone sounded male to some. so its subjective. My voice might sound female to you, who knows.

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  26. Not sure where else to put this, but Humans of New York had a photo today that was very relevant to this blog...

    Photo: “I fell in love with the first girl I dated. Then one day she told me: ‘If you were a boy, this would be perfect.’” http://www.humansofnewyork.com/post/124419688006/i-fell-in-love-with-the-first-girl-i-dated-then


    Sent from my iPhone

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  27. It is rape culture that perpetuates the continuous trauma experienced by sexual assault victims. Yes, I've known many people who have been raped by women.

    The crime statistics speak for themselves. 90 to 95% of rapes and sexual assault are committed by males. Most violent crime is committed by males.

    The total inmate population is:

    1,463,454 (male inmates in prison in U.S.)
    111,287 (female inmates in prison in U.S)

    That is almost 1.5 million compared to 100,000 females.

    Rape and sexual assault

    158,800 (male)
    2,000 (female)

    I don't know how they define sexual assault. Since transwomen (males who identity as women) are skewing the statistics, I wonder how many of these women were committed by transwomen (males in dresses).

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf

    It's a fact that males who identify as women, cross dress, or say they are women offend at the same rate as other males. There are too many examples to list here, but I'll throw out a few:

    Richard, "Sherri", Masbruch who tied two women up and tortured them with an electrical wire before raping them - says he is a woman

    Paula (Paul) Witherspoon who was convicted of molesting a girl - caught using a women's restroom in Texas

    Robert, "Michelle", Kosilek who is serving a life sentence for murdering his wife

    Katheena Soneeya (born Kenneth Hunt) murdered two women and is serving a life sentence in Massachusetts. One victim’s neck was slashed and her body had suffered multiple stab wounds to the chest, abdomen, and groin. There were strips of sheeting around her neck and ligature marks on her wrist. In addition to blood, water was found on the bed and in the vicinity of the body. An autopsy revealed sperm in the victim’s vagina and rectum, indicating that Hunt raped her.

    Former TERF Tracker and transgender activist, Allison, "Dennis", Woolbert was convicted of sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl.

    Dennis Wayne Woolbert and other examples here...

    https://allisonslaw.wordpress.com/category/allisons-law/

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  28. Sorry for the typo..

    I don't know how they define sexual assault. Since transwomen (males who identity as women) are skewing the statistics, I wonder how many of these crimes were committed by transwomen (males in dresses).

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  29. It is rape culture that perpetuates the continuous trauma experienced by sexual assault victims. Yes, I've known many people who have been raped by women.

    I've never heard one instance where a female raped a transwoman (male), but there are numerous examples of transwomen (males), or cross dressing dudes raping women.

    Transsexual and transvestite guilty of raping woman

    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Transexual-transvestite-guilty-raping-woman/story-22359000-detail/story.html

    Cross dressing cabbie raped woman and records it on his cell phone

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/crossdresser-cabbie-convicted-of-rape-958087

    Lots more examples here...hella links

    https://outofmypantiesnow.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/this-is-transgender/

    More examples here...hella links

    http://nounequalrights.com/information/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/The-Threat-to-Women-and-Girls-Illustrated-1.pdf

    Examples here....

    https://allisonslaw.wordpress.com/category/allisons-law/

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  30. Transwomen (males) and cross dressing males who have been convicted of sexually assaulting women, molesting girls, murdering women, or committing other crimes against girls and women.

    Lots more examples here...hella links

    https://outofmypantiesnow.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/this-is-transgender/

    More examples here...hella links

    http://nounequalrights.com/information/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/The-Threat-to-Women-and-Girls-Illustrated-1.pdf

    Examples here....

    https://allisonslaw.wordpress.com/category/allisons-law/

    I forgot Douglas, "Donna", Perry who is currently on trial in Washington State for first degree murder of 3 women.

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  31. I forgot Douglas, "Donna", Perry who is currently on trial in Washington State for first degree murder of 3 women..

    Who could ever forget transwoman Synthia China Blast who was convicted of helping to murder a black girl, and then dump her body in a box and set the box on fire

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  32. Since transwomen (males who identity as women) are skewing the statistics, I wonder how many crimes supposedly committed by females were actually committed by transwomen (males in dresses).

    Good question....does anyone know the answer..

    Ban Rapists & Violent Predators from Changing Legal Gender & Name

    https://allisonslaw.wordpress.com/

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