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Tuesday, July 21, 2015

Testosterone Transgender and Cancer

Youtube may unknowingly be documenting Trans Trending among female (particularly lesbian) youth, but GoFundMe seems to be doing the exact opposite, unknowingly documenting trans females suffering from the deadly effects of years on testosterone.

Tragic case in point:

Cam started testosterone in 2008:
Cam began like so many Trans Trenders we see today; young, strong, hopeful and full of life.

In a FB group, a group member (trans female) asked this question:
Cam replied:
Cam also states in another FB group:
Cam began testosterone in 2008 and end of December 2014 she was/is suffering stage 4 non hodgkin's lymphoma. Perhaps Cam is genetically predisposed to NHL and its nothing to do with years of injecting high doses of testosterone?
More men than women get NHL, more whites than blacks and more elderly (over 65). Cam is female, black and obviously under 65!

Cam also has a family history of cancer, including breast cancer. Due to the port used for her chemo Cam cannot get her breast removed. How do healthy women fair with even small natural amounts of testosterone in our bodies:
A history of cancer, living WITH cancer and some doctor is STILL filling her testosterone prescription. Cam's doctors have went far beyond their First Do No Harm vows, straight into giving Cam her Last Rites with each new prescription.


These doKtors arent simply transitioning people, they are killing them. If you believe in universal energy, please send some good energy Cam's way.

dirt

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  1. Dirt, we don't know if the "T" caused the cancer. However, why aren't more tracking what is really happening. This is a young woman.

    There is a strong family history of cancer, and she is given "T". I don't understand this.

    A history of cancer, living WITH cancer and some doctor is STILL filling her testosterone prescription

    I'm not a doctor, but this is strange.

    Wishing Cam all the best....stay strong....

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  2. Hi Dirt, I admire your blog and have been reading here for awhile. There is so much information already available on the effects of testosterone administration that isn't getting out there, that even though I am no expert I hoped to let your readers know that testosterone is an immunosuppressant:

    "From cholesterol at least five crucial hormones are made, each with a very different task: pregesterone, aldosterone, cortisol, testosterone, and estradiol. Collectively, they are known as the steroids...one of cortisol's most surprising effects is that it suppresses the immune system."

    "Testosterone is just as good at suppressing the immune system as cortisol. This explains why, in many species, males catch more diseases and have higher mortality than females." See, Matt Ridley, GENOME, HarperCollins 1999, pp.156-7.

    Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma is so linked to immunosuppression that it is also called "AIDS-related Lymphoma":

    "People with HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) have a weakened immune system. As a result, they are more likely to develop certain cancers. This includes non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL). Also known as AIDS-related lymphoma, this is a cancer of white blood cells." http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/guide/aids-hiv-opportunistic-infections-non-hodgkins-lymphoma

    This site discusses how immunosuppressive therapy carries an important risk of NHL: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2925472/

    This article discusses the rise in NHL and the link to immunosuppression: Current evidence suggests that factors/conditions that precipitate either chronic antigenic stimulation or immunosuppression may provide a preferential milieu for development of NHL.

    I am very sorry for the patient you talk about in your article. I'm concerned not only that taking testosterone was causative in getting the illness, but even more that the person is continuing to take this immunosuppressant.

    I assume you have already covered this but I just wanted to add a few sources.

    Thank you for your work.

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    1. Thanks for reading/commenting. Good information!

      dirt

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  3. Sorry, the last article I refer to in my comment above has this cite: http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v23/n38/full/1207843a.html

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  4. I recall seeing a YouTube video (don't have the link) of a trans"guy" who had to stop T because of very serious chronic yeast infections and UTIs because "his" female body was never designed to process so much T. The severity of this case may make it somewhat of an outlier, but the fact that no one seems to be interested in tracking the long-term use of T is incredible. Obviously cancer is super-serious, but even chronic internal infections can have long-term repercussions.

    It's reminiscent of how chronic infections (Hep C, etc) among gay men prefigured HIV infections. If there are adverse consequences after just 5-7 years use, then you can assume that the consequences will be exponentially worse 10-20 down the road.

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    1. Actually some of us ARE tracking the health issues associated/potentially associated with transition drugs. Stayed tuned for a global database soon.

      dirt

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  5. Hi, dirt! As a pharmacist, I have been puzzled by the contradictory information out there regarding hormones. On the one hand, we have been told, on the strength of the Women's Health Initiative study, that LT supplementation has all sorts of deleterious effects on women's health. And testosterone has recently been revealed to increase the risk of cardiovascular events when given to men with "low T." But all the critical thinking and cautionary information goes out the window when talking about cross sex hormone supplementation for transgender individuals. I mean, Health Canada (that's like the FDA) says that testosterone "should not be given to women." But our publicly-funded healthcare system pays for women to get testosterone in the context of transition. And the risks to men of taking estrogen for decades is unknown though there are case reports of VTEs (blood clots). But there is the continued pressure to "increase access to transgender care." Evidence-based medicine seems to fly out the window when it comes to trans.

    An M2T I was arguing with elsewhere said that hormones are much safer now because they are "bioidentical rather than that Premarin crap." Bioidentical hormones have not, at least when I last checked, been found to be safer than the horse piss variety.

    I enjoy your blog! Keep writing and fighting the good fight.

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  6. So is part of your plan here to discourage people from donating to Cam? or others who have taken T or strictly to educate the cause and effect of T?

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    1. Speaking as "Anonymous" on July 22, my plan was to support Cam by hoping s/he would see the info and ask the doctors about whether the T was making his health worse. I would never want to discourage anyone from donating to help a patient like Cam, I feel for this person.

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    2. No plan whatsoever. But most certainly not the former.

      Dirt

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  7. Actually I was asking it of Dirt, but thank you for your response. I feel Dirt is coming across as punishing and putting the ill person on display without any confirmation or proof the individuals illness is a result of T... That said in many ways Dirt has come a long ways from her tactics of several years ago. I do hope we all extend grace and compassion to those who are effected by cancer, regardless of how contracted. And if I can help a person in any way I will continue to send conservative amounts to those who are in genuine medical need. A year ago this was my story. The only difference was I was not T exposed but would have been branded as such. I needed help desperately and cringed every time the GoFundMe page went up for fear I would end up on here. I assure you I could not have handled this type of stress the way Trans-ill were being displayed on this blog at that time. It would have been physically and psychologically damaging. Fortunately I got support and help. Cam, if you see this you hear this. My stage 4 condition has now been evaluated as chronic as opposed to terminal due to the new kinds of infusions available. Don't give up!! Support and state of mind are over half the battle on this.

    See we all generalize when it comes to cancer. For example if we do not know the individuals receptor types or if they are negative or positive, we cannot possibly know if T played a role in it. Using this as a scare tactic is not the way to go about it. In my case, I was ER Negative. Meaning Estrogen Negative. Hence, T would not have been the cause of it in the first place.

    That said, I am all for educating; So lets educate and not scare. Dirt, you know all too well the emotional impact you went through during your health crisis. Try to remember that time-frame and be that person who extends grace and compassion for those around you.

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    1. Interesting. So as a gravely ill person, you would be more concerned about a stranger mentioning you on a random website than focussing on your health. Telling. Very telling.

      You also mistakenly or conveniently missed mentioning drs doling out cancer causing hormones to cancer patients. Hmmmm...

      Dirt

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    2. Dirt, Make no mistake I focused on my health. My fear was losing support to fight this with all my might. You are not the enemy here. I am all for educating. I am all for pre-emptive... But as a gravely ill person who needed help at that time psychologically I could not have delt with being displayed here... It is one of those things you don't know how you feel or will feel until you walk a mile in cancer shoes or any other kinds of shoes. There was so much to deal with. Logic does not come into it when you are being told you have a very short window of life. I still won't do T.. My point is can we not educate instead of punish? If we start using the fear tactic people get immune. They do not take it seriously. As a transguy I totally plan to donate my part in this to educating... Not from a scare tactic place or a shame on you place. You know there are many different shame on you types. I actually had a trans-advocate who I realize is about attention and not cause shame me in front of people I truly loved for how long it had been since I had a mammogram. I agree that is another cause of not being diagnosed. So which is worse? T or don't get a mammogram for 15 years. You know and I know how the denial factor goes on this mass thing. So we should educate.. Not shame.. We should stand up and be voices for having gone into ignore. If we contract cancer (one example) from taking any medication... T or estrogen, birth control, etc we need to educate. You don't get it.. I agree with more of what you have to say than you realize. The only thing I don't agree with is the delivery of teaching. I also agree with you I am seeing a LOT of health issues amongst ftm's who have been on T a few years. I have quietly been charting and studying this since I ran across you several years ago. that said stop putting words into my mouth and tell me what I would rather or not rather be doing. It does not help address these issues of which many are valid. All this said, I was too fricken sick to blog. But when I am strong enough I want to do a series of videos as to what life is like with cancer and the process I went through.. and will always goes through. Chronic means I will be on chemo the rest of my life..

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    3. I guess reading comprehension depends upon the eye of the beholder. When I read dirt's words in this blog post, I do not detect a desire by her to punish the victim/patient. I do detect a negative tone, but it is directed at current medical protocols which are harming women, and the medical professionals who prescribe ongoing testosterone injections to a woman who already has cancer and also has a direct history of cancer in her family. I do not see any words that would discourage anyone from donating to Cam's Go Fund Me account. On the contrary, I feel like this blog post is supportive of the patient and will probably result in increased donations to her medical fund.

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  8. For example if we do not know the individuals receptor types or if they are negative or positive, we cannot possibly know if T played a role in it.

    Hormones can stimulate certain cancers. I'm aware of the receptor types, but they only check what type receptor AFTER the person is diagnosed with cancer. There is also the issue of people who have a strong family history of cancer. Before they give out the "T", do doctors check to see if there is a family history of cancer?

    "See we all generalize when it comes to cancer. For example if we do not know the individuals receptor types or if they are negative or positive, we cannot possibly know if T played a role in it."

    Why are people so sure about saying this? Do we know everything there is to know about injecting healthy females with synethetic hormones?

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    1. Great point. Some people are very quick to deny that there could even possibly be a connection between T and a myriad of health concerns, rather than realizing that there is an awful lot that the medical community does not yet know and won't know until a sufficient number of cases surface to make the connection.

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  9. They all but admit that this is an experiment on otherwise healthy female bodies. It's even in the" Informed Consent Form for Testosterone Therapy". They want to cover their ass, and this is why they say the following:

    (initial the box) "I understand that testosterone can be converted to estrogen by various tissues in my body, and that it is not known whether this increases the risks of ovarian cancer, breast cancer, or uterine cancer."

    When a female checks the boxes and signs the form, she is basically saying that she will be part of this experiment.

    http://studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/sites/studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/files/main/docs/consent_testosterone_therapy.pdf

    My heart does go out to any person with cancer. I sincerely mean this.

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  10. Hi, I gave some sources on immunosuppression above. Reading the Informed Consent, I can't believe this is all of it. If it is and immunosuppression is not in it, I think there is enough info out there that a patient who subsequently developed an immunosuppression-related disorder might sue the dr and hospital for failing to inform them about that massive risk. This is a clear legal route to compelling medical practitioners to be accountable for such treatment. The patient and family shouldn't have to take on such a burden themselves. There should be a non-profit association of lawyers who will accept lower fees and file amicus briefs in cooperation with a patients' family in order to focus on the fact that this is a public health issue.

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  11. Dirt, You are not the enemy here. I am all for educating. I am all for pre-emptive... But as a gravely ill person who needed help at that time psychologically I could not have delt with being displayed here... It is one of those things you don't know how you feel or will feel until you walk a mile in cancer shoes or any other kinds of shoes. There was so much to deal with. Logic does not come into it when you are being told you have a very short window of life. I still won't do T.. My point is can we not educate instead of punish? If we start using the fear tactic people get immune. They do not take it seriously. As a transguy I totally plan to donate my part in this to educating... Not from a scare tactic place or a shame on you place. You know there are many different shame on you types. I actually had a trans-advocate who I realize is about attention and not cause shame me in front of people I truly loved for how long it had been since I had a mammogram. I agree that is another cause of not being diagnosed. So which is worse? T or don't get a mammogram for 15 years. You know and I know how the denial factor goes on this mass thing. So we should educate.. Not shame.. We should stand up and be voices for having gone into ignore. If we contract cancer (one example) from taking any medication... T or estrogen, birth control, etc we need to educate. You don't get it.. I agree with more of what you have to say than you realize. The only thing I don't agree with is the delivery of teaching. I also agree with you I am seeing a LOT of health issues amongst ftm's who have been on T a few years. I have quietly been charting and studying this since I ran across you several years ago. that said stop putting words into my mouth and tell me what I would rather or not rather be doing. It does not help address these issues of which many are valid.

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  12. I would like to follow up on the informed consent form. They don't do this with commonly prescribed drugs. I've never had a doctor give me one of these forms, and I take medication for GERD and cholesterol. Where do people see these kinds of "informed consent" forms? The only thing I can think of is experimental drugs, or when the doctor is trying to cover his ass from a lawsuit.

    They also automatically assume that the person is emotionally and mentally stable. The "informed consent" form doesn't ask if a person has a history of mental illness, is emotionally stable, or is mentally impaired in some way.

    It doesn't ask if the person has a strong family history of cancer.

    http://studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/sites/studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/files/main/docs/consent_testosterone_therapy.pdf

    For all practical purposes, FTMs are lab rats of sorts. Here, sign this "informed consent" form. We don't even care if you read all of it, or even if you can read. Most doctors spend 5 or 10 minutes at the most actually talking and listening to patients. The doctors really don't care, and all they are worried about is covering their ass.

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  13. Do you even have permission to use this person's information??

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