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Monday, March 10, 2014

Trans FTM Regret-Trans Forgiveness

Searches from the past few days, hitting this blog alone:

There is a deep silent fear blazing among the forest of trans females who have fallen prey to the promise of a trans utopia. A fear that if they stop their transition, they will still find themselves outside the gates of the Lesbian Community and the hope of a lesbian future with a loving lesbian partner.

There is unquestionably aspects of transition that detransition cannot reverse. But even after years on testosterone, in a matter of months many aspects of testosterone changes will erased. Bodies are incredible and their natural instincts resume immediately once allowed. Tragically "top surgery" or hysto changes cannot be revered. Having had their breast removed is a huge fear trans females considering detransition face. The fear being how can a lesbian, a female attracted to the female body, "love me?"

Knowing lesbians who have had their breast removed for legitimate life or death reasons, who have loving lesbian partners who still find them attractive (in ALL aspects) is not only possible, it is a fact!
I cant tell you that every lesbian out there is going to find you attractive, but I cant tell any lesbian that. I can tell you that lesbian attraction is multidimensional. That once your brain and body are free of the influence of synthetic male hormones and you begin getting reacquainted or maybe for you, introduced properly for the first time with your lesbian spirit, you will soon discover the spirit of lesbian empathy and forgiveness, beginning first from within and later from without.

I think what we (the Lesbian Community) are seeing now and what we will see in the near future 10 fold, is akin in a small sense to what the wives and loved ones must surely have witnessed as WWI soldiers came back from the front. Only the enemy our women are fighting is in their minds, and the battle ground they are fighting on is their bodies. As lesbians come back from the Trans Front we need to let them know, they have a place. And when they are strong enough, give them a platform to tell their Trans war stories using their experiences to heal and stop future lesbians from falling for the Trans-Uncle-Sam propaganda of I Want You!

They are now only trickling back from the Trans Front, scruffy faced, aged, scarred with missing body parts, shell shocked....war worn. In the next years, they will come to us as they left us, in droves. But we (the Lesbian Community) have big hearts and strong hands, some of us are already holding out both. 

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  1. Your war comparison is absolutely ridiculous. Aside from the fact that transition is hard, I'll give you that, the rest of that hog wash about WWII is insane. To suggest we're going to come crawling back to the lesbian community battered and bruised desperately hoping some lesbian will find us attractive is utter BS. Despite how difficult transitioning may be, some of us believe it or not are not miserable, we are not destroyed physically or mentally, we are glad to finally be who we want and will go on to live a long happy life. We have females who find us attractive as we are and do not have to worry about our lack of breasts making someone un-attracted to us. They find us attractive for the men that we have become. You claim to be such a helpful supportive person. But to help one specific group of people and to hate on another actually doesn't make you very nice at all. Why can't you accept that some people choose to transition? It is their body. Why must you preach that it's wrong? Would you want someone to preach to you that being gay is wrong? I'm sure you've heard things in your life along those lines, negative reactions to your being gay. But it's who you are. You can't change it. Why can't you twist that around and see that you're doing the same thing to our community? I'll agree with you, there is a massive amount of FTMs out there who are far too young to be transitioning and are probably only doing it because they think it's "cool". That infuriates me, believe me. Because it makes people like me look ridiculous. But nevertheless, I don't see how in the world it's your place to exploit them on your blog and basically mock them by posting their Youtube video links. Don't you ever feel like you're being a bit hurtful rather than helpful? So you don't agree that transition is a good idea, fine, that's your opinion. I have a lot of opinions too that I'm sure millions don't agree with. But I mind my own business and never try to push these opinions/beliefs off on others. Trans people like myself are not being recruited or drafted into transition like a war! We do this because we have to become who we need to be to be happy. Isn't happiness what life is all about? Isn't that the point of it all? To be happy? You act like it's such a tragedy for these "women" to "mutilate" their bodies and get rid of their breasts, genitals, etc.. but what good are these parts if they don't make us happy? It's like driving a fancy convertible that everyone loves; it's great looking and runs great but you hate it.. you don't like the way it looks and you don't like driving it. I'd say get rid of it and buy a new car, wouldn't you? Doesn't really matter how beautiful others think it is, if you don't like it.. you don't like it. End of story. Being a woman makes us unhappy, being a man does.. Can't you just be happy for your fellow human beings and move on? Your attitude is so aggressive. Just some thoughts. Thanks for reading.

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  2. You act like it's such a tragedy for these "women" to "mutilate" their bodies and get rid of their breasts, genitals, etc.. but what good are these parts if they don't make us happy? It's like driving a fancy convertible that everyone loves; it's great looking and runs great but you hate it.. you don't like the way it looks and you don't like driving it.

    The human body is just like a car. If we don't like it, we can get a new model. Moreover, changing body parts is just like changing parts in a car. Pop the old part out, and go get a new part.

    The mutilation of healthy female bodies has a thousand plus year history. From Chinese foot-binding to female genital mutilation, it never ends. It just morphs into something new. This blog isn't big enough to list every culturally dictated fad or trend in which female anatomy is mutilated in some way.

    If we are wrong about FTM "transitioning", it does resemble female genital mutilation. We already have one mutilated and euthanized female body. Nancy/Nathan Verhelst was so depressed after botched sex reassignment surgery that she begged a doctor to euthanize her. By all accounts, this poor soul was deeply depressed to begin with and grew up in a very dysfunctional home where the mother favored the boys. Why was "transitioning" seen as the only option for this seriously depressed woman? Nancy/Nathan states that the skin flap taken from her arm had shown signs of rejection, and she didn't like the way her chest looked. After this tragic euthanasia, what did the transgender community do? They blamed the mother. They didn't blame the doctors who pushed "transitioning". If someone is raised in a dysfunctional family, he or she is probably carries a lot of emotional baggage. Nancy/Nathan Verhelst shouldn't have been "transitioned". Not even a mutilated and euthanized female body can wake people up.

    Nancy/Nathan Verhelst isn't the only case of women being "transitioned" who shouldn't have undergone these ghastly procedures.

    "Britain's first transsexual doctor is under investigation after one of his female patients said she regretted the treatment she underwent to become a man.

    The woman had her breasts removed and underwent gender-changing hormone treatment before changing her mind.


    She is now one of three patients to complain about Dr Richard Curtis, a former woman, who is accused of allowing them to rush into sex-change procedures.

    The doctor, who charges patients up to £240 an hour, is being investigated by the General Medical Council.

    The allegations include commencing hormone treatment in complex cases without referring the patient for a second opinion, or before they had undergone counselling.

    He also allegedly administered hormone treatment at a patient’s first appointment, and referred patients for surgery before they had lived in their desired gender role for a year, as international guidelines recommend.


    One patient allegedly underwent surgery within 12 months of their first appointment. He is also accused of administering hormones to patients aged under 18 without an adequate assessment."


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258374/Transsexual-doctor-gave-inappropriate-sex-change-treatments-ignored-restrictions-practice.html

    *Note Dr. Richard Curtis was born female As Vanda Zadorozny.


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  3. Your war comparison is absolutely ridiculous.

    There is a war going on against women. Transgender is part of the postmodern neoliberal backlash against second wave feminism.

    The term "war on women" has been used by several people. Google "war on women". It can mean different things to different people. It usually refers to attacks by religious fundamentalists on female reproductive rights. Some conservative politicians want to reverse what second wave feminists fought so hard for.

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  4. @March 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    I'll agree with you, there is a massive amount of FTMs out there who are far too young to be transitioning and are probably only doing it because they think it's "cool". That infuriates me, believe me. Because it makes people like me look ridiculous.

    Sure does.

    This is the sixth or seventh transgender identified person who admits "that there is a massive amount of FTMs out there who are far too young to be transitioning and are probably only doing it because they think it's "cool"."

    So, they troll this blog, and when pressed admit that a lot of these teenage girls talk about "T" and "transitioning" because it's cool and trendy. What do they do about it? Nothing. It's business as usual.

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  5. They are now only trickling back from the Trans Front, scruffy faced, aged, scarred with missing body parts, shell shocked....war worn. In the next years, they will come to us as they left us, in droves. But we (the Lesbian Community) have big hearts and strong hands, some of us are already holding out both.

    It's true, and we have seen women detransition. The female sex if far more resilient than people give us credit for.

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  6. Nobody forces anyone to transition. Some people do it and they regret it, yes. That would be their fault for not making a thousand percent sure that's what they wanted to do. There are all kinda of risks when starting transition and if you can't handle them then you should not begin it. But if you want it bad enough you are willing to handle whatever it throws at you. It's not transition's fault that some people have a bad experience. Transition actually saves a lot of lives contrary to what a lot of you seem to think. It saved mine. Also, transgender is and never will be a war against women. I love women. I just don't want to be one.

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  7. Thanks for having your blog here for the people who need it.

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  8. "Also, transgender is and never will be a war against women. I love women. I just don't want to be one."

    A female born from the womb of a woman states, "I love women. I just don't want to be one". This doesn't make sense to me.



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  9. I'll agree with you, there is a massive amount of FTMs out there who are far too young to be transitioning and are probably only doing it because they think it's "cool".

    Thank you, that's what we're saying a long time and more and more trans persons agree with it lately.
    This alone is worth this blog. This is the reason this blog excists.
    And still you brag about Dirt keeping up this blog?
    At least she does something about it. What do you do for these youngsters?

    Big

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  10. No, we are not crawling back into the loving arms of the lesbian community. We have communities of all kinds of people who hold us in their arms. Wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, best friends, pals, sons and daughters, our fathers and mothers and sisters and brothers. No matter how hard you try, you will fail to reduce our lives to your failed-lesbian dystopic narrative. You can't re-write our stories. We tell our own truths.

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  11. This is a great post. Its true. We will love them, we still love them, always have always will, NOTHING could have ever changed that. We're waiting and we'll be here for lesbian detransitioners.

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  12. Well I know one thing, if I was a "detransitioner" I certainly hope I could find a better group of people to help me along my journey than all of you bigots.

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  13. It's not transition's fault that some people have a bad experience.

    At least they are right about one thing even though they phrase it in a rather unusual way.

    It's the fault of transgender activists who push GnRH agonists (puberty suppression) even though they know it can cause infertility. Intentionally making healthy children infertile is often seen as a human rights abuse. It's amazing what people can do all in the name of "gender identity".

    It's not transition's fault..

    Thousands of transgender blogs, websites, etc. plant the idea of "transitioning" in the minds of 13 and 14 year old girls.

    It's not transition's fault..

    Despite the fact that breast binding can mis-align ribs and cause other health problems, there are transgender websites that give away used breast binders to women under the age of 21.

    They don't care about their health anymore than they care about what GnRH agonists can do to healthy children.

    It's not transition's fault..

    There has to be a zillion youtube videos of FTMs sharing stories about their special "first shot of "T". They also share information on the easiest ways to get the a "T" letter.

    It's not transition's fault..

    It's the fault of plastic surgeons who advertise "top surgery", "bottom surgery", facial feminization for MTFs, etc., etc. There is no money in not doing surgery.

    Ghastly procedures that mutilate healthy breasts and genitals are simply known as "top surgery" and "bottom surgery". Elective mastectomies with the surgical trimming down of areolas and nipples are called "top surgery". Human females are undergoing elective mastectomies. We are supposed to believe that it's trendy and cool. Some of us just aren't drinking the Kook Aid.

    Double Incision Mastectomy With Areola and Nipple Grafting

    They literally cut the areolas and nipples off, trim them down to size, and sew them back on after the mastectomy. Loss of sensation is common. Every now and then the graft doesn't take resulting in the loss of a nipple or two.

    Do people really want to know what "bottom surgery" entails. Skin flaps have to be taken from the arm, thigh, or wherever. They essentially sew these onto the female pubic area. Extending the female urethra presents its own set of challenges. Fistulas are common. Since the surgeon is taking a scalpel to very sensitive areas, loss of sensation can't be entirely ruled out.

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  14. You can't re-write our stories. We tell our own truths.

    You can't re-write our stories. We tell our own truths.

    We are also watching everything you do.

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  15. There are shitty surgeons out there. The same could be said about nose jobs, breast implanrs, an appendectomy geez ANYTHING has it's risks and there are all kinds of horror stories that can be told. About anything. Does that mean every result will be terrible though? Of course not. I have had top surgery and I guarantee any of you could see me out on the street and never guess in a thousand years I ever had breasts. No one has ever guessed. Does that sound like mutilation to you? Uh no. All you peope do is find the worst case scenarios you can find and harp on them.

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  16. There are shitty surgeons out there.

    True. So, let's encourage more teenage girls to "transition" because it's cool, and it's easy to look like a "guy".

    I have had top surgery and I guarantee any of you could see me out on the street and never guess in a thousand years I ever had breasts. No one has ever guessed. Does that sound like mutilation to you?

    When the shirt is taken off, the scars are usually still visible.

    Perfectly healthy breasts are surgically removed and the nipples and areolas are trimmed down to size. Yes, this does sound like mutilation to me. The reason they call it "top surgery" is because they don't want people to see what really happens to healthy female anatomy. A nose job doesn't completely remove the nose, and breast implants don't completely remove the breasts. Enhancing something that already exists isn't the same thing as surgically removing healthy breasts. I do have problems with the idea of elective mastectomies on women who have no family history of breast cancer.

    When I first watched the video of "top surgery", my initial gut reaction was that I was witnessing a form of violence being carried out on the female sex. I do see elective mastectomies with the surgical trimming down of areolas and nipples as mutilation. Nothing radically alters healthy female breasts and genitals as "top surgery" and "bottom surgery".

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  17. "We are also watching everything you do."

    Um, I'm pretty sure I already knew that. Be my guest!I have nothing to hide!

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  18. I have no scars, thanks.
    I love the way my body looks and NO ONE would consider it mutilated. It's really disgusting how all of you try to insist all male transgender bodies are mutilated female bodies. We want to be this way. Once removing these breasts we can look in a mirror without wanting to cry with how much hatred we have for the way we looked. To be able to walk around proud of what you look like it a beautiful thing. You don't encourage this? Imagine if you had something on your body you found repulsive and couldn't stand the way it looked or felt. What if people told you you had to keep it? That you couldn't go get it removed because it was a perfectly good healthy part of you that there was no dangerous medical need to remove it. Imgaine how trapped and scary that would be. It does not matter that they are "healthy breasts". What the hell difference does it make if we're getting rid of healthy breasts? What good are healthy breasts with an unhealthy mind?

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  19. It's really disgusting how all of you try to insist all male transgender bodies are mutilated female bodies.

    Females aren't male, and "top surgery" basically amounts to elective mastectomies with the surgical trimming down of areolas and nipples. At least males can still feel their nipples. Loss of sensation is common in "top surgery".

    I'm truly sorry if I view "top surgery" in a realistic manner. I call it as I see it. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea of elective mastectomies on healthy breasts. I know what these procedures entail.

    I apologize for being realistic and refusing to live in an elaborate fantasy world. If a human being is born female, she has female anatomy and a female reproductive system. What the heck is a male transgender body? Human beings can't change their sex. Primates, both human and non-human, don't change their sex. Mammals don't change their sex. About the only living organisms on earth that can change their sex are some species of fish. Earthworms and slugs are hermaphrodites. Don't go on about rare disorders of sexual development because DSD are NOT the same as transgender. Before the surgery and hormones, transgender identified people are physically no different than other people. If a person is born female, getting healthy breasts removed doesn't magically create a "male".

    The thing about FTM "transitioning" is this:

    (1.) If we are wrong about it, it does resemble female genital mutilation.

    (2.) We have already seen examples of women regretting these procedures.

    (3.) We have already seen examples of botched sex reassignment surgery.

    (4.) Contrary to what transgender activists say, not everyone is emotionally or psychologically prepared to deal with the transition process and all the surgeries.

    (5.) There is no way to clearly distinguish between cultural influences (everything these teenage girls see and read at thousands of trans blogs, youtube videos about "T" and "top surgery", etc., etc.) from actual "gender dysphoria".

    (6.) It's impossible to clearly distinguish between internalized misogyny and "gender dysphoria".

    Imagine if you had something on your body you found repulsive and couldn't stand the way it looked or felt.

    There are some people with body dysphoria. It's an actual psychological condition in which people see part of their body as extremely disgusting. Surgeons don't cut off a person's leg or arm because of it. Or, remove healthy organs.

    The more that "transitioning" is pushed by the transgender community, the more likely that we will see another Nancy/Nathan Verhelst. There are 13 and 14 year old girls already talking about "T".

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  20. @Anon March 11, 2014 at 9:27 PM
    "What the hell difference does it make if we're getting rid of healthy breasts? What good are healthy breasts with an unhealthy mind?"

    I think this gets to the point of what a lot of what this blog and the commenters are trying to say. The body (and breasts) are healthy, the mind is not. Why is the solution to alter the body? Gender/sex/body dysphoria is the only psychological condition for which we alter the body to appease the brain. If the brain is unhealthy, we should be starting there, and then staying there for a good, long while in therapy before moving onto physical alterations. I'll be the first to admit that my brain has been and probably still is at some level of unhealthy (as our most of our brains, I don't think many people can claim 100% clean mental health), but I do everything I can to work from the inside out, because that is the method that makes the most sense to me.
    So the logical conclusion would be to work on dealing with the brain and where this discomfort/hate/disgust comes from, at least to my mind, long before the option of physical alteration becomes even a conversation topic.

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  21. I have complete sensation in my nipples. Just pointing out something you're wrong about, again. Don't make statements that you don't know about.

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  22. Nobody who has surgery which involved cutting skin will ever have "complete sensation" in that area again. Cutting nerves always does some permanent damage. It's especially sad that Dr.'s are carving up these young women's erogenous zones, and screwing up one of life's great pleasures for them.
    Germany

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  23. After bottom surgery I have almost 3 minute orgasms every time. Used to have about 5 second ones. I've never been turned on by my nipples being touched but I do have feeling in my nipples just as I did before. Surgery did nothing but give me MORE pleasure and make me a more confident person. Just because some surgeries have gone wrong does not mean that is the case for everyone. Such negativity.

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  24. @March 12, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    I have complete sensation in my nipples. Just pointing out something you're wrong about, again. Don't make statements that you don't know about.

    March 12, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    If surgeons cut off the nipples and areolas and surgically whittle them down to size, loss of sensation can't entirely be ruled out. Also, the nipple graft can fail resulting in loss of a nipple or two.


    None of these things are guaranteed to happen if you have double incision. They are simply things that could happen. Discuss any concerns with your surgeon.

    Loss of nipple graft, including loss of all or part of areola, nipple.
    Permanent numbness.
    Large, dark hypertrophic ("spreading") scarring.
    Poor placement/shape of scars by surgeon.
    Poor placement/sizing of nipple.
    Irregular appearance of reconstructed nipple; irregular areolar shape.
    Adhesion scars at scar line if underlying muscle surface is nicked.
    Puckering at scar.
    Dog-ears under armpits.

    http://t-vox.org/index.php?title=FTM_top_surgery_info

    Possible complications specific to FTM chest surgery include:

    • problems with the contouring/skin: puckering, chest sunken or puffy in places, lopsided (one side looks different than the other), “dog ears” (excess skin at the end of the incisions), sagging skin that fails to tighten up after surgery
    • lopsided repositioning or resizing of the nipple (one side looks higher/larger than the other)
    • change in sensation to nipples/breast skin: less sensation or more intense sensation
    • nipple grafts may die and need to be removed
    • thick, red, rope-like scars
    You will likely have to have further surgery if:
    • you have contour problems or your nipples are lopsided: the surgeon will wait 8–12 weeks after surgery to see what your chest looks like after the post-surgical swelling fades
    • your nipple grafts die: another graft, nipple reconstruction, or
    tattooing can be done at a later time
    • you have severe scarring

    http://www.camh.ca/en/hospital/care_program_and_services/hospital_services/Documents/surgery-FTM.pdf

    Sometimes the nipple isn't or can't be kept. In those situations there are nipple tattoos that an help the cosmetic appearance some. Make sure to check what your surgeon's technique is. -
    http://www.tssurgeryguide.com/FTM-Top-surgery.html#sthash.Zvu2bTzz.dpuf


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  25. 1. “Did you lose nipple sensation and if so how much?”

    Max: Initially I was numb from about three inches below my collar bones to an inch below the incision, it was kinda like being at the dentist when they numb your mouth and you know you’re touching it but you just can’t feel it! Gradually over the last three years I would say 95% of the sensation in my whole chest has returned. After about 18months my nipples went hard in the cold for the first time, it was really funny and I probably looked like a fool standing in the street laughing at my own chest but being able to feel different pressures and temperatures was really exciting. I have not regained any ‘erogenous’ sensation unfortunately – those special tingling feelings you get never came back. However it does feel like I have gained a large area of ‘extra sensitive skin’ due in part to the presence of masses of scar tissue- so my chest is hyper responsive to touch and pain.

    M: I lost one and a half nipple grafts. Neither my doctor nor surgeon was sure why. As a result I did lose sensation temporarily. A year later I have touch sensation and hot/cold sensation in both, although they do not react to heat/cold by hardening. I have some erotic sensation in both, and a patch of erotic sensation between the bottom of the nipple and the scar. Erotic sensation from them has improved psychologically because my breasts aren’t there. The scar tissue is much the same colour as nipple tissue so it doesn’t bother me especially. I had them pierced which gave the flatter one some shape back.

    Liam: I still have touch sensation, but a lot of erotic sensation has gone. I generally don’t feel much when people are using their mouth on my nipples, but I do a bit if they are using their hands.

    X: I lost all sensation in both nipples for the first 10 or so weeks of being post op. I am gradually getting sensation, but it is extreme sensation only. Its only when I apply serious pressure that I actually feel anything and the sensation I do get is pain. Its one of those things that you have to deal with when it comes to surgery. It is one of those very small downsides that is outweighed by the upsides.

    http://cnlester.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-top-surgery-answers/


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  26. Pray for this person...

    On Oct 31st, 2013

    Damien Leggett 34, was given a bilateral mastectomy performed at Pan Am Clinic in Winnipeg. The drains were removed Nov 4th. Damien should have been on the road to recovery within two weeks but within a week of the surgery it was very clear something was not right.

    On Nov 10 he was admitted to St Boniface Hospital but transferred to Health Sciences Centre where he had an ultrasound and fluid was drained. This happened several times.

    Damien’s condition deteriorated at home to the point that I called an ambulance as he had a high fever. His teeth were chattering and he was barely lucid. Early in the morn of Nov 17th he was admitted to HSC after the paramedics took a temp at his home of 39.5. He was very ill.

    Damien was admitted with a postsurgical infection. By this time one of Damien's nipples was necrotic and black but we were told it was "fine".

    Nearly five week after surgery Dec 4 at 12:30 in the afternoon Damien went to HSC emergency with his nipple hanging off pouring fluid, with redness, painful swelling, and abscesses. He was generally unwell and profoundly depressed.

    After almost eight hours Damien asked a surgical resident what to do about the fact that the nipple his surgeon said was "fine" two weeks before was literally hanging off. The resident said not to worry – that people walk around with necrotic toes all the time. Damien said he was traumatized by the idea of his nipple falling off in his hand and the resident said that if it happened, he could just “throw it in the garbage.”

    Damien was hospitalized in December with another surgical infection and spent another six days in hospital. Prior to Christmas, his surgeon came to see him for a couple of minutes at which point he cut off Damien’s nipple with a pair of scissors.

    He was back in hospital again with abscesses and a fever on Christmas Day and stayed in until New Year’s Eve. It was not until February that he was able to return to school.

    Damien has been given no choice but to have this devastating and terrible surgery corrected by a surgeon in Toronto. This surgery will correct as best it can the physical destruction. Despite this work, Damien will have no feeling in his upper chest area as a result of the total and irreversible damage from what should have been a relatively easy procedure.


    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/damien-leggett-surgery-fund--2

    They are asking for donations to pay for the surgery to correct what was done to this person.

    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/damien-leggett-surgery-fund--2

    *I'm assuming this was a FTM identified person. Males don't undergo bilateral mastectomy.

    Keep this person in your prayers.


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  27. @March 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Yes, the Damien Leggett in this link is transgender.

    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/damien-leggett-surgery-fund--2

    It's sad.....

    "Leggett is the parent of three children. He entered the program in 2010, with a 9th grade education and living on social assistance…exactly the sort of person the program targets. He was also in the early stages of transitioning from female to male."

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/11/1222763/-Being-a-student-while-transgender

    Damien is the "parent of three children". Does this mean that Damien is the biological parent? So, Damien gave birth to three children? If Damien gave birth to these children, that would make Damien the MOTHER, therefore Damien is FEMALE. In news articles, Damien is referred to as "he". Males do not give birth.

    My heart goes out to this person because of the botched "top surgery". I just wish people would stop bending over backwards to not mis-gender anyone.

    I hope Damien gets reconstructive surgery on the botched "top surgery". No human deserves to suffer like this.

    "Despite this work, Damien will have no feeling in his upper chest area as a result of the total and irreversible damage from what should have been a relatively easy procedure."

    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/damien-leggett-surgery-fund--2

    Bilateral mastectomies are not "relatively easy" procedures. When people point this out, and question why women need elective mastectomies on healthy breasts we are told to be quiet.


    This is insanity.

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  28. For every extreme example you all bring up, there are 100s if not thousands of happy, healthy, loving their lives and surgerical altered bodied. You can top surgery "elective", meaning we elect to have them as in choose. If you consider us women, do you not belief that we as women are capable of making our own choices?

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  29. If you consider us women, do you not belief that we as women are capable of making our own choices?

    Nothing exists in a complete cultural vacuum. There are always cultural factors that play an enormous role in one's decision making process. Moreover, some people simply are not emotionally or psychologically capable of making rational decisions.

    Despite being average weight, why are most teenage girls on a diet?Why are most anorexics female? If they want to endanger their health and starve themselves to death, it's their body and their choice.

    "In fact anorexia has the highest mortality rate of any mental illness -- up to 20%."

    http://www.eatingdisorderscoalition.org/documents/TalkingpointsEatingDisordersFactSheet.pdf

    Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is an actual psychological disorder. Some of these individuals have an urge to amputate a healthy limb. It's their body, and their choice.

    I don't consider elective mastectomies on healthy women who have no family history of breast cancer a rational choice. What other parts of a healthy body are we willing to lop off?

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  30. @Kevin,

    What other healthy parts of human anatomy are you willing to dispense with?

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  31. For every extreme example you all bring up, there are 100s if not thousands of happy, healthy, loving their lives and surgerical altered bodied.

    I doubt the veracity of this statement.

    An identity based on a surgically altered body, or specific surgical procedure is, by definition, not liberatory.

    If FTM "transitioning" goes wrong, the results surely are ghastly. The skin flap sewn onto the female pubic area is about to rot off, or there is a fistula (urine leakage) ("bottom surgery" gone bad). A nipple falls off and there is post off infection ("top surgery") gone bad.

    Sex reassignment surgery should be outlawed. There, I've said it. Stop the mutilation of healthy breasts and genitals. SRS doesn't "reassign" one's sex. It's just extensive plastic surgery on healthy anatomy.

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  32. when I say 100s if not thousands, I mean it. I personally know and have met in person over a 100 happy healthy trans people and that's just in Northern California, not the rest of California, the US and the world. And if I had any of body parts I wasn't using, non vital, that were everyday constant visual reminders of my the conflict of my mind and body, I'd have them removed as well. Trans people are made well aware of the risks of surgery. my best friend has a fistula and has urine leaking; he got it fixed and is happier than ever. things happen during surgery, it's risky and for some people those risks do not outweigh the benefits. None of you have the right to speak for someone else, especially those who can clearly speak for themselves, as has been shown by me and other trans people who comment on this blog, the Transgender Law Center, and numerous trans organizations.

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  33. when I say 100s if not thousands, I mean it. I personally know and have met in person over a 100 happy healthy trans people and that's just in Northern California, not the rest of California, the US and the world.

    This long term study (30 years) compared 324 transsexuals to people in the general population. Instead of looking at subjective things, it looked at mortality and morbitity. Mortality refers to life span, and morbidity refers to disease and medical conditions.

    "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

    While sex reassignment surgery seemed to help to alleviate "gender dysphoria", transsexuals still have higher rates of mortality and morbidity.

    None of you have the right to speak for someone else, especially those who can clearly speak for themselves.

    First, free speech still exists in the U.S., Canada, and most European countries. It's impossible to silence everyone. Second, children don't have the mental capacity to make informed decisions. Why are they given GnRH agonists (puberty suppression) which can make them infertile? Third, some people like the Belgian woman who was euthanized after botched SRS are probably too emotionally unstable to undgergo these radical procedures.

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  34. "You act like it's such a tragedy for these "women" to "mutilate" their bodies and get rid of their breasts, genitals, etc.. but what good are these parts if they don't make us happy? It's like driving a fancy convertible that everyone loves; it's great looking and runs great but you hate it.. you don't like the way it looks and you don't like driving it. I'd say get rid of it and buy a new car, wouldn't you?" (March 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM)

    This chilling comment goes to the heart of the irreconcilable differences between us. Our bodies are NOT consumer goods that we can trade in when we get bored of them.

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  35. None of you have the right to speak for someone else, especially those who can clearly speak for themselves.

    Do you think that persons that can't speak for themselves are capable to make such a huge life lasting decision like transition?

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    1. Proving how much people on here on so defensive and eager to prove that they are right, not even reading posts correctly. Worst thing is on this blog is that there is no debate here. Because there are open minded people on here.

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  36. @Anon, March 11th at 6:19 p.m.

    Whether or not I can tell you had surgery is not what worries me. It's not about how it looks.

    I love my breasts and the pleasure I get from them in sex with my sweetheart. I don't think that nipples that have been removed, cut, and put back on will work. It's a loss to a woman's sexuality.

    I also loved nursing my babies. This is a wonderful life-affirming experience. Young women who have their breasts removed will never have that option for themselves or their children.

    I think I understand why young women might want to remove their breast. We are taught that they aren't ours, that they are for men to enjoy looking at. They attract more attention than we want. For many young women, sexual abuse may have made them dislike their breasts.

    What I want young women to know, though, is that it gets better. You don't have to lose the wonder of your breasts.

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  37. @Anonymous on March 13th, at 2:50 p.m.

    I wonder if surgery increased your sexual pleasure because before it you disliked your body too much to enjoy it.

    I can understand why someone might feel this way and why surgery might benefit them. For some people this may be the best choice.

    I am, however, very concerned that anyone who dislikes their body try first to do therapy.

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  38. Anon @5:00,

    Young men also.

    There are cases where fathers have breast-fed their children, because the mothers were ill or had died or were otherwise unable. There is no reason fathers shouldn't at least help breast-feed their children, it might be one of the reasons for 'sympathetic pregnancy.' Men's breasts tend to be smaller if they do develop, but there's nothing to be ashamed of about them.

    - Mary.

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  39. How on earth can men breast-feed their children? That confuses me.

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  40. Mary, I don't think men can produce enough milk to feed their children well. The history I've read is clear that in the days before formula, if the mother died, the baby died unless they could find another woman to nurse it.

    Adoptive mothers sometimes use a device that allows them to hold the baby and have the baby suck the breast, but the actual milk comes from an attached tube. This could be other women's milk or it could be formula. (And to be honest, when you don't have milk of your own, it may be safer to go with formula.) Sometimes the adoptive mother will produce some milk, but it is not enough to fully feed the baby.

    There is a case of a trans man who used this device to feed his baby. I find this very troubling. I do not wish anyone to have dysphoria, but if someone is able to nurse a baby, I wonder if they had dysphoria badly enough to justify cutting off their breasts.

    I do not know if cis men ever use this device to feel that they are nursing their babies. Back in the day when I was dealing with infants, I would not have had the energy to bother with such a contraption. It's a lot more work than preparing a bottle and someone has to pump her milk to put into it.

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  41. @March 17, 2014 at 5:47 AM

    There have been a few cases of males lactating. However, if a man starts to lactate, it could be a sign that something is wrong with his hormones, or he is taking some kind of medication that is really messing with his body.

    Prolactin is involved in lactation and males usually don't get spikes in prolactin unless there is something wrong with them.

    Newman explains that medical disruptions involving prolactin, the hormone necessary to produce milk, have resulted in spontaneous lactation. Thorazine, a popular antipsychotic used in the mid-20th century, impacted the pituitary gland—the pea-size endocrine gland located near the base of the brain—often causing it to overproduce prolactin. If prolactin levels remained high, milk could follow. According to Newman, lactation is listed as a possible side effect of the heart medication digoxin. A pituitary tumor could also induce milk production: "It would be the same reason—increased prolactin levels in the one case drug-induced, in the other due to a tumor or some other sort of neurological problem."

    In a 1995 article for Discover titled "Father's Milk," Pulitzer Prize-winning author and one-time physiologist Jared Diamond reconciles the nipple stimulation and hormone quandary, pointing out that such stimulation can release prolactin. He also notes that starvation—which inhibits the functioning of hormone-producing glands as well as the hormone-absorbing liver—can cause spontaneous lactation, as observed in survivors of Nazi concentration camps and Japanese POW camps in World War II. "The glands recover much faster than the liver when normal nutrition is resumed," he writes, "so hormone levels soar unchecked."

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-males-can-lactate/

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