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Saturday, August 10, 2013

Transgenderism and Borderline Personality Disorder

A regular reader wrote to me asking if I thought there was any correlation between Transgender Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder, she feels many of the symptoms of BPD match many diagnosed with TD. Here is a link of BPD past and present per the DSM 4/5.

 My answer is this, psychiatric disorders are quite like astrological signs. Most people can see something of themselves in many disorders (and at different moments in their lives) just as they can many different astrological signs regardless of their birth date. And where females are concerned, given the past horrors applied to females by the Male Medical Machine based solely on female in the contexts of patriarchy by patriarchy, ANY diagnosis by the medical community should be immediately suspect! And I am speaking strictly psychoanalytically, NOT organically! Since Psychiatry was first created by the Male Medical Machine, females of all ages have largely been the grist for its misogynistic mill!

This reader mainly thought there was a correlation because of she perceived narcissism to be occupying both disorders. I suspect the narcissism often found in trans patients has more to do with their believed discovery of their "true self"and the trans highs that temporarily follows changes from transition; sexed language, legal and medical.

I remember when Ellen Degeneres's character Ellen came out on her show. I heard first hand from SO many straight people complaining how the show was no longer funny cuz it was all about "her being gay" now. This is what happens when gays and lesbians come out, at first it IS all about being gay or lesbian! There is a gay/lesbian high from all the firsts and seconds and even thirds! The first time you go to a gay/lesbian bar, the first gay/lesbian person that talks to you, the first gay/lesbian friend, the first gay/lesbian Tshirt or coffee mug you buy, the first rainbow coloured something or other you own, the first gay/lesbian date, the first gay/lesbian sexual experience, the first gay/lesbian relationship etc etc etc!!! I wouldnt call these experiences narcissistic, they are part and parcel of being gay/lesbian within hetero-patriarchy. They establish a firm separation of hetero-patriarchy by celebrating the uniqueness of gays/lesbians via gay/lesbian experiences.

While coming out as gay or lesbian isnt dependent on the medical community or legal changes, the highs/excitement that come from changes that happen to gays/lesbians when we come out, I dont think are so different from the trans highs/excitements felt by those who believe the discovery of their "true self" and the emergence of that "true self" via drugs/surgeries (temporarily).

That said, I wouldnt label how gays/lesbians act when we come out as BPD and dont believe we can label the TD as such either.

Side note: I am not saying that there arent Trans people who do have BPD, but so do some gays, lesbians, jews, blacks, white, rich, poor etc etc etc.

Second side note: When I say trans or trans disorder I am NOT including female fetishizers.

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15 comments:

  1. There is no such thing as Transgender Disorder.

    What, are you a graduate of the GW Bush School of Making Up Words?

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  2. What's this trans high you have made up and talked about for so long?

    You should know all about having BPD as well as schizoaffective disorder.

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  3. Ladies and gents I present the great Lynn Marie Baker, Doctor of Psychiatry.............wtf -_-

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  4. I can't believe I just read a post by Dirt that I actually agree with. *brain implodes*

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  5. This is my favourite post, and probably one of the best on the whole blog.

    I'd love to see more like this, Dirt.

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  6. There is no such thing as Transgender Disorder.

    This both is and isn't true which seems like a contradiction, but logic doesn't always apply in transgender fantasy land. Transgender is not a disorder we are told, but they usually need a letter from a therapist that says they have a mental disorder "gender dysphoria", or whatever to get surgery or cross gender hormones.

    This person is partially correct in that transgender is essentially culturally defined. In essence, it's primarily in one's mind.

    What, are you a graduate of the GW Bush School of Making Up Words?

    I don't know where the reference to GW Bush came from. I never voted for him, and I consider George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the neo-cons war criminals.

    As to making up words,

    "I'm polyamorous, pansexual and genderqueer of the non-binary flavour. My pronouns are they/them/their/theirs or ey/em/eir/eirs, whichever are easier for you to integrate into your vocabulary...

    I'm an intersectional kyriarchy smashing person.
    "


    http://www.okcupid.com/profile/harleybond?cf=regular_indirect

    "My pronouns are co/co/cos/cos/coself (that’s nominative, accusative, possessive determiner, possessive pronoun, reflexive)."

    http://nonbinaryhookups.tumblr.com/

    Other terms 90% of the population rarely, if ever uses, but THEY GET VERY UPSET IF WE DON'T PRETEND WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    Cissexism, Cissexual, Transmisogyny, Neutrois, etc.

    Misgender (a heinous crime committed by evil "cissexist, cissexuals")

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  7. Side note: I am not saying that there arent Trans people who do have BPD, but so do some gays, lesbians, jews, blacks, white, rich, poor etc etc etc.

    Dirt, this is true. You are correct in bringing up the fact that psychiatry has a checkered history of strange and ghastly cures and trends.

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  8. Ladies and gents I present the great Lynn Marie Baker, Doctor of Psychiatry.............wtf -_-

    Ladies and gents, I present videos of transorbital lobotomy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RfJv4zGpkw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0
    aNILW6ILk

    Ladies and gents, I present a "transabled transsexual" who actually wishes he, rather, she were deaf. No, you can't make this **it up!

    "Personally I am a transsexual. I had GRS (genital reassignment surgery) in October 2005 with a well-recognised surgeon in North America. I am also transabled: I have a desire to be moderately/severely deaf (as journaled in my blog ‘makemedeaf.blogspot.com’). At the time of this writing I haven’t achieved my TA goal."

    http://transabled.org/thoughts/a-comparison-between-transsexuality-and-transableism.htm

    Ladies and gents, I present Riley, the transgender, diaper wearing, baby clothing fetish, kinky freak extraordinaire. He is 25 and likes wearing frilly dresses, diapers, and pink baby clothes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LY5Z6tyrY8

    Psychiatry has some ghastly treatments in its long and sordid history, and Riley and the "transabled transsexuals" make dirt look mundane by comparison.

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  9. My answer is this, psychiatric disorders are quite like astrological signs. Most people can see something of themselves in many disorders (and at different moments in their lives) just as they can many different astrological signs regardless of their birth date.

    This statement seems to hold true throughout the history of psychiatry.

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  10. That said, I wouldnt label how gays/lesbians act when we come out as BPD and dont believe we can label the TD as such either

    I agree with this statement.

    As to narcissism, I think this applies more to MTFs than FTMs.

    Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism
    Anne A. Lawrence

    "In this essay, I argue that much of the MtF transsexual
    campaign against Bailey can be understood as a manifestation
    of narcissistic rage. It is no coincidence, I believe, that most of Bailey’s principal opponents fit the demographic pattern
    associated with nonhomosexual MtF transsexualism (see
    Lawrence, 2007). I propose that nonhomosexual (i.e.,
    presumably autogynephilic) MtF transsexuals are probably at
    increased risk for the development of narcissistic disorders—
    significant disorders in the sense of self—as a consequence of
    the inevitable difficulties they face in having their cross-gender
    feelings and identities affirmed by others, both before and after
    gender transition. As a result, many autogynephilic transsexuals
    are likely to be particularly vulnerable to feelings of shame and
    may be predisposed to exhibit narcissistic rage in response to
    perceived insult or injury.

    I propose that narcissistic disorders in
    autogynephilic transsexuals are important and probably
    common phenomena, which deserve more extensive study than
    they have thus far received. I also suggest that clinicians and
    scholars should be aware of the susceptibility of autogynephilic
    transsexuals to narcissistic injury and should try to avoid
    inflicting such injury."

    http://www.annelawrence.com/shame_&_narcissistic_rage.pdf

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  11. I have noticed the kind of euphoria some people have when “coming out” as Gay/Lesbian. Rainbow flags and the rainbow theme plastered as far as the eye can see. What looks like “too much identity” sometimes to the rest of us, but it’s usually just a phase.
    But is trans even an identity? Isn’t the point just trying to be as “normal” a member of the opposite sex as possible, blending in better in society, and going on their way? Or has it just become some kind of an identity because it doesn’t really work that way?
    Germany

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  12. @Germany

    This is an interesting blog that might answer some of your questions.

    "It’s been far too easy to get hormones in every city I’ve lived in. Trans-specializing clinicians can’t seem to manage to identify “lying patients”—or as I like to call (many of) them, “out-of-touch with reality mentally ill teenagers whose brains are not even done developing yet” who want hormones/surgery.

    It’s also relevant to ask where is the hard data that says the current treatment protocols for transsexuals actually work to treat the conditions they’ve been prescribed for.

    Let’s talk about how my doctor was considered so cool and progressive because he didn’t do the traditional gatekeeping. Let’s talk about what a joke his intake process was and what percentage of the FTM support group he ended up treating (the vast majority).

    This pseudo-diagnosing is dangerous. No other illness is so quickly labeled as being trans* is now. I’ve been seeing psychiatrists, psychologists, and other therapists since high school who all thought I had symptoms of bipolar, or BPD but never diagnosed me officially because they weren’t sure and wanted to see me for a longer period of time before labeling anything. But every one of these same professionals were quick to diagnose me with GID in the first or second appointments.

    ...Being trans* is the new fad in psychiatry - and thus way, way over-diagnosed. This is not progressive treatment, it is simply the newest group for doctors to profit from. It’s sick."


    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/

    This is a brilliant, insightful article.

    Socialized “Trans”

    "One way to describe part of my experience is to say that I was socialized “trans”. That is, people assumed I was trans and treated me how they thought a trans person ought to be treated regardless of how I identified myself at the time. This treatment over time began to effect how I saw myself, helped to instill a trans male identity and encouraged me to transition. I think this is a phenomena that effects many females who are butch, “masculine” or otherwise don’t fit conventional “femininity".

    The many social benefits conferred on a female passing as male can lead them to take the maleness people read in them and make it a part of their own understanding of self. When people who know this person is female-bodied also read them as male, trans male in this instance, this reinforces the idea that because their actions, looks and so forth can pass for male, then they are male and this maleness is desirable. The outside world tells them that they pass for male, their close associates tell them their behavior makes them trans male and nowhere is femaleness being reinforced. Instead they’re being told again and again that they’re not female and will often find little to no representations of females who resemble them. In fact they might hear, as I did, about a lot of females who used to identify as dykes and/or butch but now identify as trans and maybe transitioned. In my own case, many of the females I did come across were not like me or what I wanted to be and many of the female-bodied folk who were like me were trans-identified or became so."

    http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/

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  13. "But is trans even an identity? Isn’t the point just trying to be as “normal” a member of the opposite sex as possible, blending in better in society, and going on their way? Or has it just become some kind of an identity because it doesn’t really work that way?

    @Germany

    "Many queer and trans people say they think gender is a social construct but I don’t feel like they always acknowledge the full implications. It doesn’t just mean that gender norms are made up and we can defy them or make up our own genders. It means that we are influenced by these norms even if we rebel against them. If gender is socially generated then a person’s sense of gender can be influenced by cultural trends and as culture changes, new norms and rules can arise. Something formally taboo can become a standard people are measured against and I see this happening with trans identities. Trans can be another definition forced onto people, another idea through which a person’s being and behavior can be interpreted and judged. Just as there can be pressure for a male to be a “manly man” or a female to be “girly”, there can be pressure to call oneself trans or transition if one’s actions are considered “inappropriate” or strange for one’s sex. This is not only a possibility, it is a reality. I have been socialized “trans” and I know I’m not alone."

    http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/#more-188

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  14. Hey Dirt this is Preston. I also wanted to ask you about BPD and transgender statistics. Much of BPD is a very shaky "sense of self" and a desperate search for things to define yourself. I believe that a huge outlet for people suffering with BPD is the allure of changing sexes. I STRONGLY believe there is a HUGE correlation between the two disorders.

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