Change Your World-NOT your Body

Monday, August 12, 2013

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning


Logan-Age 14

CrisMartire-Age 19


 mcnzbeats-Age (young teen)


 
 Tony-Age 16


John-Age 18

BecomingNicholas-Age (young teen)

moudesu-Age 23

SoCallMeJD-Age 23

Ben-Age 18

Written by tommy shaw
Lead vocals by tommy shaw

You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man i can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest

And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
How can you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man

You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it

You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're killing yourself if you don't believe it
Get up, get back on your feet
You're the one they can't beat and you know it
Come on, let's see what you've got
Just take your best shot and don't blow it


You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it

dirt

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34 comments:

  1. Bullying people again? Wonderful person you are. Meow.

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  2. And these children that you spit on
    As they try to change their worlds
    Are immune to your consultations
    They're quite aware of what they're going through

    Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes.

    ~David Bowie

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  3. Transgender is an Orwellian curse upon the female sex.

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  4. "Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

    "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

    George Orwell


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  5. This is so sad to me. My heart goes out to these kids, but they are being brainwashed.

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  6. Nobody cares about your old people music.

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  7. These girls don't have to get their boobs looped off or inject their bodies with "T". They are beautiful just the way they are.

    It's okay to wear your hair short, play sports, work on cars, build things, and be what you want to be and still be a girl. Girls are awesome!

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  8. "They are beautiful just the way they are."

    They are beautiful when they transition too.

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  9. Nobody cares about your old people music.

    Then why are some people singing David Bowie songs? That dude is 66years old. I don't have anything against David Bowie, but that dude is way over the hill.

    Breaking down Bowie's Ch-ch-ch-changes...

    And these children that you spit on
    As they try to change their worlds
    Are immune to your consultations
    They're quite aware of what they're going through

    Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes.

    ~David Bowie

    And these children that you spit on

    (children who are given puberty suppressing drugs at age 11 or 12, followed by cross gender hormones at age 16...girls who bind their breasts at age 15 and can't wait to go on "T" and get their breasts surgically removed)

    As they try to change their worlds

    (they aren't changing the world...they are changing their bodies to fit in...surgically altering a person because he or she doesn't fit neatly into sex based stereotypes of how society views "masculinity"and "femininity")

    Are immune to your consultations

    (unfortunately, they aren't immune to everything they read and see on countless youtube videos about "T", binding, packing, STP devices, "top surgery", "bottom surgery", etc.)

    They're quite aware of what they're going through

    (I seriously doubt that five year old "transgender" children are fully aware of what they are going through and everything going on around them...never mind the people who detransition and change their minds)

    Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes.

    (No, no changes here - transgender is regressive in that it just props up traditional sex roles...people who don't fit the norm require fixing or altering)



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  10. But when they transition they are no longer natural, which is why they will always look a little “off”, even with clothes on. Also they will never know what it would have been like to have made peace with themselves.

    Speaking of old people’s music – end of the 80’s + 90’s we had several strong female artists who just stood onstage, strumming their guitars, often singing politically critical song texts they had written themselves. These days most female artists are so plastic and “over-sexed” (especially the American ones) with a boring/simplistic text to top it all off.
    Germany

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  11. "They are beautiful just the way they are."

    They are beautiful when they transition too.

    They (females) are beautiful when they (surgically alter their bodies and take synthetic hormones) too.

    Females are never complete without some sort of surgical, chemical, physical, or external modification. There is only a thousand plus year history of females altering their bodies in ghastly ways to adhere to some sort of cultural norm.

    They are beautiful when they transition too.

    They are still beautiful no matter what they do or don't do, but there is nothing beautiful about a female getting her areolas and nipples cut off, surgically whittled down to size, then sewn back on after what essentially amounts to elective mastectomies. How can any sane person say "bottom surgery" on females is beautiful? Taking six to eight inches of skin grafts from the arm, thigh, or wherever and sewing it onto the pubic area, extending the urethra, and calling it a "penis".

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  12. Dirt, this is a brilliant article...it sums up everything that you are have trying to say...

    excellent and articulate...


    Socialized “Trans”

    http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/#more-188

    This is another good blog.

    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/

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  13. So some transmen look a little "off"? Based on some cultural or biological expectation of appropriate masculinity? Fuck that and fuck you. I certainly think some lesbians look more than a little "off" when they try to fit into clothes made for male physiques, but pointing that out is unnecessary and beneath me.

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  14. Transmen do look "off". Such a pity to see the video timelines of ftm's as they take on male characteristics. msguided in their pride of "becoming the man I always was". WTF. Obviously for some,mutilating their bodies to conform and erase any lesbian identity is perferable, yet ftm's consistently return to the lesbian culture for support and to find partners.







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  15. Shoot, my partner left the lesbian community and found ME. Don't flatter yourself, hon.

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  16. Shoot, my partner left the lesbian community and found ME. Don't flatter yourself, hon.

    I'm happy that ME has find a partner who is NOT a lesbian. She is NOT a lesbian. She is NOT a lesbian. She is NOT a lesbian.

    Don't ever call them lesbian. It shatters the whole façade and fantasy, and we can't have that.

    Apparently, this person's partner isn't attracted to men that much because if she were she probably would be with one now. It's no secret that straight women like penis, and females who "transition" don't have the kind of "package" that most straight woman would ever want. It doesn't work exactly like the real thing, and straight women know the real thing when they see it. The partner is not particularly sexually attracted to men, or is bisexual, but terrified of being called a lesbian. The thought completely freaks her out. Don't call her a lez or dyke. She partners with a female who can't stand her own female self to the point of mutilating her body and taking "T" so that she will outwardly look like a "man". This allows the partner to convince herself that she really isn't a lesbian after all. They are just like straight folks, but not. Does this sound familiar?

    Here is a little secret the reader should know. So, here goes. Even with the "T" and "bottom surgery", if sensation isn't lost due to the surgeries, a biological female who "transitions" experiences sexual pleasure exactly like all females. That is, through the clitoris. All "T" does is make the clitoris grow an inch or two. It's really not a "penis" suitable for the kind of penetration most straight women are accustomed to. In an expensive ghastly procedure called "bottom surgery", skin grafts are taken from a donor site and sewn onto the female pubic area. There is no erectile tissue, but it's called a "penis". It's only works if it has something like a pump to make it erect. If sensation isn't lost because of the surgery, the skin grafts are just sewn above the clitoris. Any sexual feeling is still through the clitoris.

    Never call them lesbian.

    Denying their own glorious female sexuality, but never quite a man either. God, I pity that.







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  17. I'm happy that ME has find a partner who is NOT a lesbian

    meant to say has found...it's been a rough week...

    Since ME's partner "left the lesbian community", I assume that she isn't a lesbian anymore. Maybe she is, but she pretends she isn't, or doesn't want to hang around lesbians now that she found a "man" who was born a female.

    Who knows...

    I don't know who ME is, but it was 2:44 AM when ME posted this. She is awake at 2:44 AM to say that her partner "left the lesbian community".

    August 15, 2013 at 2:44 AM

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  18. "She is awake at 2:44 AM to say that her partner "left the lesbian community"."

    Hey Sherlock, the time stamp on these posts does not reflect when the post actually happened in the TIME ZONE OF THE POSTER.

    My beautiful, loving partner has been with men, women, and transmen. She could give a shit about being called lez or dyke. Where the fuck do you live? Oklahoma? When my partner met me, she didn't realize I was trans for several weeks into our flirtation. She didn't particularly care to be with any more men, but she liked me. Alot. It didn't hurt that I am particularly handsome, confident, intelligent, and warm. *Then* she found out I am trans. She can call herself whatever she wants, but she doesn't seem to care. You know what real people *really* care about? Being loved. Having good satisfying, connecting sex. Getting respect and compassion. Growing together and learning how to be real, good people. I'm sorry that you live in such a miserable state of mind that you have to relate everything to body parts. I guess that's what trying to build a whole identity from simple sexual preference does for you. You are essentially developmentally disabled. You spent all those years fighting for your rights when you could have been becoming a real person. I'm sorry your marginalization and oppression as a lesbian has made it impossible for you to live as a whole human. I'm sorry that you see all other humans as a function of their identity or body parts-that your gayness has become your bitter cynicism. The wool is completely over your eyes.
    Although I do not hang out in the "lesbian community", I have plenty of lesbian friends and none of them take my life as a personal affront. I'm sorry you are not happy.

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  19. I apologize for being a sarcastic, judgmental ass, but I do make some cogent valid points.

    Hey Sherlock, the time stamp on these posts does not reflect when the post actually happened in the TIME ZONE OF THE POSTER.

    I know this. I realized what I had typed after I made the post. So, I was clumsy and didn't think before I posted something. I beg your forgiveness and admit I'm not perfect.

    "You are essentially developmentally disabled."

    No, I graduated from the University of California and I'm not from Oklahoma. I'm an educated person and I have access to world class research facilities and libraries. Where did this person go to college?

    You spent all those years fighting for your rights when you could have been becoming a real person. I'm sorry your marginalization and oppression as a lesbian has made it impossible for you to live as a whole human. I'm sorry that you see all other humans as a function of their identity or body parts-that your gayness has become your bitter cynicism. The wool is completely over your eyes.

    Unfortunately, the wool is completely being pulled over the eyes of these 11, 12, and 13 year old children, and it's clearly coming from the transgender community who promotes "transitioning". There are 11 and 12 year old "gender dysphoric" children who are given GnRH agonists to intentionally delay puberty, a normal part of human development. Think carefully about this. Can we say with certainty that future historians won't look back at what we are doing to children and shake their heads in utter confusion and disgust? I am truly sorry for sounding sarcastic and being an ass, but after seeing countless photos and videos of the eugenics of gender non-conforming girls, it frankly breaks my heart. These 14 year old girls are already binding their breasts and talking about "T" and "top surgery". The wool is not being pulled over my eyes, and this is my main source of frustration and angst. I can see exactly what is going on.

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  20. Although I do not hang out in the "lesbian community", I have plenty of lesbian friends and none of them take my life as a personal affront. I'm sorry you are not happy.

    I know who I am and I'm very thankful that my identity doesn't come in a vial of "T".

    My beautiful, loving partner has been with men, women, and transmen. She could give a shit about being called lez or dyke. Where the fuck do you live? Oklahoma? When my partner met me, she didn't realize I was trans for several weeks into our flirtation. She didn't particularly care to be with any more men, but she liked me. Alot. It didn't hurt that I am particularly handsome, confident, intelligent, and warm.

    Isn't this what I posted earlier? Although she is with a biological female, "She could give a shit about being called lez or dyke." This individual only confirms what I had posted. I know that this is a very sensitive issue and people catch holy hell for even daring to bring it up. When a woman is with a transman (a biological female who identifies as transgender or "transitions"), she avoids being called a lez or dyke. Isn't this very convenient, and we are to believe that it has absolutely nothing to do with how society generally views lesbians. Women who partner with transmen (females who "transition") avoid, at least in their own minds, the dreaded lesbian label. It's not like lesbians are far more marginalized than straight women and there isn't systemic discrimination. So, we have women who are with humans born female, but they find it extremely distasteful to even be called lesbian even when they are in a committed long term relationship. The thought doesn't even enter their minds. Why is this? Partnering with transmen (females who "transition") is a way for them to deny the horrific thought that they might actually be a lesbian. Why can't we just come out and say it instead of pretending that it's not true?

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  21. Transmen do look "off". Such a pity to see the video timelines of ftm's as they take on male characteristics. msguided in their pride of "becoming the man I always was". WTF. Obviously for some, mutilating their bodies to conform and erase any lesbian identity is perferable, yet ftm's consistently return to the lesbian culture for support and to find partners.

    Shoot, my partner left the lesbian community and found ME. Don't flatter yourself, hon.

    I'm happy for this couple, but I wish they would stop pretending that for many transmen mutilating their bodies to erase any female/lesbian identity is preferable to being called lesbian. Also, the partners of FTMs get to convince themselves that they really aren't lesbians either.

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  22. "Partnering with transmen (females who "transition") is a way for them to deny the horrific thought that they might actually be a lesbian."

    What is wrong with your comprehension? Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians. Transmen are not a branch of the lesbian tree. Most of us, if not *all* of us experienced gender dysphoria long before sexual preference is even a seed of a thought. If I had expressed sexual desire at 3 when I expressed my gender identity, I think my mom would have been really alarmed. Many transmen are gay men or bisexual (like myself). You cannot say we are "choosing" something over being lesbians when we never were lesbians. That you think it's so easy to just choose a more convenient identity reveals more about the strength of your identity than i wanted to know. Have you heard of kids losing their families and housing because they are trans? I have. As far as lesbians who DO experience gender dysphoria, that's for them to figure out-not for me to relate back to myself. Sorry, lesbians. I think your lesbian head is stuck so far up your lesbian ass that you literally cannot see an experience or identity other than your own. You have ZERO humility. Everything relates to you and your time on this earth. No other human is capable of being something you don't understand or experience. As far as my partner's "lesbian shame" goes, you're wrong. She liked me for my sense of humor and intelligence but she thought I was born male. She was ready to go ahead with it anyway because she likes men-discovering I am trans was a non-issue. She would have been with a woman in a a heartbeat if that woman had what she wanted. She likes it all. But she likes especially that whole insignificant "falling in love" crap that seems to have no place in your system of delineation by body parts. That you imagine love can be so easily subsumed by desire for acceptance really says more about your relationships than I wanted to know. Do ya think it's always easy for my partner to have people know she's with a transsexual?
    I swear, I am starting to really worry about the lesbians. I mean, the whole thing was supposed to be about love. Loving who you fall in love with. Regardless of sex or gender. And now you want it to be more important for people to stay behind their battle lines? Hey, do you get on blogs and attack lesbians who eventually go and date men? Or is your special treatment/"analysis" just aimed at transsexuals?
    Why don't you just go ahead and admit that you are afraid the lesbians are dying out. That your fear is turning you into an terrible person who intentionally misunderstands and mistrusts an entire group of people who have never hurt you. A group of people who experience terrible prejudice and denigration. All of that I can accept and understand. Though it's not my favorite, it's a starting point. It's emotionally honest. Something I can work with. The extremely self-centered paranoia telling you that everything transmen do has to do with lesbianism is really weird and embarrassing for you.

    Is there any shred of you that can understand what I'm saying?

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  23. ”Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians.”

    If a human is born female, she is of the female sex.

    Saying, "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians" flies in the face of common sense, history, biology, genetics, and things we can see and observe with our own eyes. All we have to do is look around us to see numerous examples of why this statement isn't true.

    Example 1

    If it's true that "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians", then why did Chaz Bono identify as a lesbian for years before becoming a "man"? Chaz most definitely was lesbian for years. She had female partners and even wrote a book about coming out as a lesbian. She, rather, he is not the only example of lesbians who suddenly became straight "men" via "transition".

    Example 2

    If it's true that "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians", then why did Thomas Beatie, the pregnant FTM, give birth to three children after legally changing her sex to male? Don't females have ovaries, a uterus, and give birth?

    Example 3

    Whether they admit it or not, if a person is born female, she still has a female reproductive system. Yes, I know that some women might be missing part of their reproductive system, but women are born with reproductive systems that are different than males. Please don't bring up intersex (disorders of sexual development) because we have thoroughly covered this before. The vast majority of transgender individuals are either biological male or biological female without an actual intersex medical condition. DSD (disorders of sexual development) are NOT the same as transgender.
    How can this person say that "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians" when transmen (biological females who "transition") have ovaries, a uterus, and XX chromosomes just like other females?

    Example 4

    How can this person say that "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians" when transmen (biological females who "transition") benefited from rights that were fought for by feminists before they "transitioned"? To state that transmen (females who "transition") don't share a common history with all females is, frankly, an utter insult to all the women who fought tirelessly for women's rights. Before she "transitioned", didn't Chaz Bono have the right to vote? Didn't she have the right to an education, reproductive health care, and equal pay? I'm talking about before she "transitioned" and became a "man". Where did she get those rights? To have the audacity to state that transmen (females who "transition") don't share a common history with all females is, in my opinion, an insult to the female sex and women's history in its entirety.

    Example 5

    How can this person say that "Transmen are nothing like women or lesbians" when this person wouldn't even be here without a female giving birth. I have a mother and this person has a mother.

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  24. Hey, do you get on blogs and attack lesbians who eventually go and date men?

    Well, here goes, and I hope this person is listening. I don't want to shock anyone or be offensive, but this is how I see it.
    These women don't get their perfectly healthy breasts lopped off, take "T", and renounce their own sex. I've repeatedly said that it doesn't matter to me if a woman is straight, bisexual, or lesbian.

    The mutilation of female bodies is nothing new, and it's been going on for thousands of years. With FTM "transitioning", the female anatomy not only is radically altered, we lose female identity itself. While FGM (female genital mutilation) is barbaric, at least we are still left with a female in the end.

    But she likes especially that whole insignificant "falling in love" crap that seems to have no place in your system of delineation by body parts.

    I’ve seen the transgender “system of delineation by body parts”, and I’ve often wondered how future historians will view the ghastly procedure called “top surgery”.

    This person has the gall to type the words, "your system of delineation by body parts" when it's female body parts that are being surgically removed, radically altered, sliced, diced, and female reproductive systems that are being drastically changed by the magical "T" that 14 year old girls can't wait to take. Using words such as "transitioning", "top surgery", and "bottom surgery", cloaks the violence being done to female anatomy. Don't preach to me about body parts because I'm literally numb from seeing all these teenage girls talking about "top surgery" and breast binding.

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  25. Why don't you just go ahead and admit that you are afraid the lesbians are dying out.

    This is just not about lesbians, although it's true that the "transitioning" of butch lesbians is patriarchy's wet dream. It's about puberty suppressing drugs for "gender dysphoric" 12 year old children. Didn't this person take the time to read dirt's post on the GnRH agonist Lupron? Why in the hell do children need so many drugs? It's also about breast binding which can potentially mis-align ribs. Also, it's about "top suvgery" and "T" which the transgender community promotes.

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  26. If I had expressed sexual desire at 3 when I expressed my gender identity, I think my mom would have been really alarmed.

    Did this person really express his or her "gender identity" at age 3? How many people can think back to how they actually felt and perceived the world at age that age? Are we to believe that "gender identity" is so innate, sacrosanct, and fixed that it never changes?

    “Currently experts can’t tell apart kids who outgrow gender dysphoria (desisters) from those who don’t (persisters), and how to treat them is controversial.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dialogue-our-notions-of-gender.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    “Treatment of extremely gender variant children will continue to remain controversial since some underlying assumptions of the clinicians are a matter of opinion rather than of empirical data and empirical studies (e.g., clinical trials with random treatment assignment) are neither feasible nor ethical. I wish to conclude by raising some points for the clinicians treating these children to consider:

    1. There is no empirical evidence (i.e., controlled study) demonstrating that discouraging childhood cross-gender interests reduces the frequency of persistence into adolescence and adulthood.

    2. Since no clinician can accurately predict the future gender identity of any particular child, efforts to discourage cross-gender identifications may be experienced as hurtful and possibly even traumatic by children who do persist into adolescence and adulthood.

    3. There is no empirical evidence demonstrating that a prepubescent child who is permitted to transition gender role but then desists can simply and harmlessly transition back to the natal gender.”

    4. Since no clinician can accurately predict the future gender identity of any particular child, efforts to encourage public early childhood cross-gender roles may be experienced as hurtful and possibly even traumatic by children who do not persist into adolescence and adulthood.”

    http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/lgbt.2013.1500

    Does this sound confusing? Who can we make heads or tails of it? Persisters, or children who don’t outgrow gender dysphoria, might experience hurtful feelings and trauma if people try to change cross-gender behaviors. On the other hand, desisters, or children who outgrow their gender dysphoria, might be traumatized by efforts to encourage public early childhood cross-gender roles. That is, a male child who was referred to as “she” for years is now confused and hurt once he goes back to identifying as a boy. Moreover, there is no empirical evidence that says that transitioning back to the sex one is born into is easy and doesn’t come with its own challenges.

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  27. I knew when I was three continued...

    According to,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981931

    “Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality.”

    A simple online google search turns up several examples of children who struggled with gender dysphoria, and later changed their minds as they matured.

    'I was born a boy, became a girl, and now I want to be a boy again':

    Britain's youngest sex swap patient to reverse her sex change treatment

    October 29, 2012

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2224753/Ria-Cooper-Britains-youngest-sex-change-patient-reverse-treatment.html#ixzz2AjFa43a9

    (***he must have known at age 3 too)

    Below is a link to a MTV video of a young man who identified as a girl and now wants to return to being a man. Also, in the MTV video, a young woman who once identified as a boy changed her mind and returned to being a girl. The young man who appears to be in his early twenties discusses having his breast implants removed. In the same MTV video, the young woman who looks like she could be in her mid-twenties is shown undergoing laser treatments to remove the facial hair that was caused by earlier testosterone use.

    http://www.mtv.com/videos/true-life-im-questioning-my-gender-again/1704884/playlist.jhtml

    (they could have know at age 3 too)

    Detransitioning stories are easy to run across on the internet. Transitioning essentially means the process whereby one changes his or her outward appearance to match or coincide with how one identifies or feels internally. Transitioning usually involves cross-gender hormones and surgery. Detransitioning is the opposite of transitioning, and there are numerous examples of people stopping cross-gender hormones. Testosterone is commonly referred to as “T” and FTM is female to male.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFV7Upr52M

    http://detransition.blogspot.com/

    “I am a 22 year old woman who lived as male for 3 years and took testosterone for a year and a half. I am currently 8 months into detransition.”

    http://twentythreetimes.tumblr.com/

    “Anonymous asked: I've been off T for 5 months now. My hormones are still balancing themselves out, and as that happens I find myself discovering more and more of my inner world that I didn't even realize I lost while on T. It's a beautiful thing. I feel like my mental self is re-awakening and growing again. I'm so happy to re-discover the real Me that I love.”

    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/post/49896874618/ive-been-off-t-for-5-months-now-my-hormones-are-still

    “My name is -name redacted-, im 25 and i am a former FTM, also detransitioning and having a rough time through the post traumatic stress after being on testosterone, my body, my face, my feelings went all wrong on T and know im fighting to come back..”

    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/post/32054720795/happy

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  28. Transcending the Norms of Gender

    The Left Hand of Darkness

    by JULIAN VIGO

    "The ideologies were all transgender and queer was being pushed onto us. I never wanted to get married, I had very strong ideas about my role in society and didn’t like the way I saw women being treated. Now the vibrant lesbian community is all gone so we do understand what it is like to be trans, and we understand what it is like to be boxed into gender. We just disagree that being transgender is the way to resolve this issue.’ Like every feminist I interviewed, Tauni echos that gender needs to be dismantled and that transgender individuals are perpetuating stereotypes that hurt women. More worrying to Tauni, however, is how lesbians are being pressured to transition, often by their partners: ‘There is this particular aesthetic you have to be—it is the coolest thing to be trans. The hottest lesbian now is the trans man and so a lot of lesbians are going this way. The other lesbians can pressure their partners to become trans. They fetishise other trans men and then they pressure their partners through their sexuality.’ Noting some of the changes in Australian society Tauni adds: ‘What I am really concerned about is that young girls are being channeled into sex reassignment rather than encouraged into thinking about lesbianism. Children in Australia are exposed to transsexuality before being exposed to ideas of being lesbian and gay. Children in Australia at the age of ten are put on hormone blockers and they don’t know at that age what their beliefs will be like as an adult...

    It was easier for me to come out as a guy than to come out as lesbian. ’ Russell continues, ‘I can safely say that I didn’t feel direct pressure, but you do hear ‘that is such a dude way to act.’ As a young child before the age of kindergarden, I remember one of my mom’s friends saying that I walked like my dad. As I grew older I still walked like my father and my mother taught me to walk like her, moving my butt and hips. In school I was physically assaulted because I had a ‘boy’s haircut.’ My high school had a conservative religious edge to it and so I came out as wanting to transition. I felt like I had more acceptance for transitioning as a man than for coming out as a lesbian.’ Dani Tauni contextualises this experience: ‘Women are always taught to hate their bodies from day one. Especially girls who are victims of childhood sexual abuse. They are trying to cut their femaleness off because they view it as a vulnerability. It is a body dysmorphia because they hate their bodies and they do this through transitioning. For women and lesbians it is hatred and mutilation of the body. "

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/07/the-left-hand-of-darkness/

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  29. Socialized "Trans"

    http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/

    "One way to describe part of my experience is to say that I was socialized “trans”. That is, people assumed I was trans and treated me how they thought a trans person ought to be treated regardless of how I identified myself at the time. This treatment over time began to effect how I saw myself, helped to instill a trans male identity and encouraged me to transition. I think this is a phenomena that effects many females who are butch, “masculine” or otherwise don’t fit conventional “femininity”.

    In my own circumstances, I would say being socialized “trans” included finding that my choice of name, clothing, physical features, interests, mannerisms and overall qualities were judged male by many people. These people decided that these qualities meant I was a boy with a female body rather than a girl with characteristics usually associated with boys and so it was therefore appropriate to use male pronouns without consulting me about my preferences. People used male pronouns to refer to me not only because they thought I preferred them but also because they seemed more comfortable using them to describe me. I was also told what a cute boy I made many times. On my own, I was considering that I could be trans but having many other people label me as such certainly reinforced that possibility and made it seem more likely.

    Crucially, this socialization also consisted of a lot of positive reinforcement. That is, when people decided I was trans and treated me accordingly they were often at the same time trying to show respect or be friendly. I didn’t receive the same sort of treatment as a butch dyke. When people “accepted” me as a trans dude they also integrated me into their social scene. People listened to me when I talked about being trans, gave me an opportunity to hold forth on my life. There’s this dynamic that can arise between trans people and trans allies where trans people get support and attention from allies and allies gain political/socially progressive cred for being friendly and cool with someone society thinks is a freak. Such a relationship typically contains some degree of objectification of the trans person, ranging from being slightly tinted by it to being totally pervaded.

    Many queer and trans people say they think gender is a social construct but I don’t feel like they always acknowledge the full implications. It doesn’t just mean that gender norms are made up and we can defy them or make up our own genders. It means that we are influenced by these norms even if we rebel against them. If gender is socially generated then a person’s sense of gender can be influenced by cultural trends and as culture changes, new norms and rules can arise. Something formally taboo can become a standard people are measured against and I see this happening with trans identities. Trans can be another definition forced onto people, another idea through which a person’s being and behavior can be interpreted and judged. Just as there can be pressure for a male to be a “manly man” or a female to be “girly”, there can be pressure to call oneself trans or transition if one’s actions are considered “inappropriate” or strange for one’s sex. This is not only a possibility, it is a reality. I have been socialized “trans” and I know I’m not alone."
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    http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/

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  30. Shoot, my partner left the lesbian community and found ME. Don't flatter yourself, hon.

    So says the person who says I have ZERO humility. Notice how ME is in caps. I like caps, but I don't type ME in caps as if ME is special.



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  31. @August 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    I'm sorry if I said anything to offend you. It's not at all uncommon for someone to troll this site and start talking trash, making vile comments to dirt or others. People wouldn't believe some of the things that were said. I think my tendency to have a smart ass attitude that I exhibit at times is just a form of defense. I tend to close myself off. At times, it has prevented me from seeing the humanity in others. For this, I'm truly sorry. I do not mean to disrespect your partner, and I'm sure any relationship can be fulfilling and meaningful.



    I'm got the impression several times from transgender/gender queer that butch lesbian can't be transitioned out of existence fast enough, and lesbian feminism should just go extent as quietly as possible.

    "I love pointing friends and allies to Lynn's page so they can see what an absolute failure radical feminism is, as well as lesbian feminism. Caught in a 1970s ideology, Lynn is the last gasp of a movement which is (thankfully) moving towards full and total extinction".

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-dirt-from-dirt-stone-butch-blues.html

    "I would much rather see my daughter grow up to be a trans man and receive the respect that comes from being a man, rather than be steered into becoming a carpet muncher and someone who gets absolutely no respect in our society."

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/camps-influencing-our-impressionable.html

    The death threats against dirt ..

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-trans-community-and-death-threats.html

    All of this is just a small sampling.

    I am not making excuses for my behavior. I think I might have typed some things that could have been worded better.

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  32. "I'm got the impression several times from transgender/gender queer that butch lesbian can't be transitioned out of existence fast enough, and lesbian feminism should just go extent as quietly as possible."

    The only reason I come to this site is that I understand what you are saying. I believe it is in my best interest for people to love who they are, for *women* to love themselves. I know some people don't believe any transition is warranted. I know some young kids who probably believe the whole world should transition. As with most things, I believe the truth is somewhere in between. I don't come to this conversation feeling the whole world has my back. I come with an acute memory of the pain and fear I went through to come to terms with myself. It wasn't pretty and I thought I would rather die than have my parents and friends reject me for who I really am. That was a shitty, shitty time. My point is that there are lots of different trans narratives. Watching teenagers talk about transition on You Tube is pretty much like watching teenagers on You Tube talk about anything: boring and stupid. Why are you content to accept children as representatives of a community that you *know* is more diverse, articulate, thoughtful and empowered? I know you are afraid these kids are throwing their lives away and buying into the hegemony of the patriarchy. Because transsexuals have always been a hated laughingstock, I am *afraid* that your concern cannot be separated from your indoctrination in this hateful culture. Basically, I don't trust your mistrust.
    In better news, in the large queer community that I live in, it is completely taboo to ever suggest that butches should transition or even to speak for someone else's gender identity. Butches are increasingly glorified and misogyny is addressed every day in my circles. Lesbian and feminist are not dirty words where I live but neither is trans. I know Dirt and her ilk believe that we have to be at war. Not only are we *not* at war with each other, but the kids are going to be the ones to decide how things go regardless of how much fear we have in our hearts. I knew there would eventually be a backlash against transitioning back when I only knew ten transsexuals besides myself. There are conversations that need to be had every day about women loving their bodies and those conversations need to happen at no one else's expense. Make it about women and make it about love and you can't lose. Make it about not being trans and they will run screaming from you, as they should. Even the youngest of children know better than to trust a coercive parent who has selfish and ulterior motives. What are your motives? If you knew for a fact that some people need to transition, that some people go on to lead healthy, happy, productive lives full of love, gratitude and service after transition would you even consider not painting us all with the same brush? I can't address the death threats-I'm too selfish to devote any of my time to hatred like that.

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  33. "Because transsexuals have always been a hated laughingstock, I am *afraid* that your concern cannot be separated from your indoctrination in this hateful culture."

    It's not just transsexuals individuals who have always been a hated laughingstock. Any deviation from culturally dictated sex based stereotypes of "masculinity" and "femininity" is often met with outright scorn, humiliation, harassment, and bigoted remarks. Butch lesbians, effiminate gay men, and any male or female who rejects tradtional sex roles are also subject to vicious, spiteful treatment and are hated laughingstocks.

    What is the difference between butch lesbians, effiminate gay men, and any male or female who rejects tradtional sex roles and transsexuals? Transsexuals (individuals who exhibit gender non-conformity) undergo extensive plastic surgery on their genitals and take hormones to fit neatly into what society says is appropriate "masculine" and "feminine" behavior. For example, if a girl likes to wear her hair short, doesn't like dresses and dolls, she really MUST be a boy. Therefore, there is a way to chemically and surgically correct this mismatch.

    Surgical procedures ("top surgery", "bottom surgery", etc.)are NOT humans. It's something that is being carried out on people.

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