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Saturday, August 3, 2013

Stone Butch Blues-Stone Butch Shame II

A reader recently sent me an email thanking me for my critique of Leslie Feinberg's Stone Butch Blues. A self serving justification for female/lesbian self hatred and misogyny. I am re-posting this much needed critique of a work that purposely or unpurposely made Butch and Trans ignorantly synonymous with one another to the detriment of Butch women everywhere still!

Besides Feinberg perpetuating female shame with her novel and promoting transition as a cure or relief to Butch Shame, I think it is a shame she waited till her health was in the toilet to realize T wasnt the answer, merely a death sentence in disguise.
  
The dirt from Dirt: Stone Butch Blues-Stone Butch Shame: Along with the male-centric, gender fluid, transgender, genderqueer, up is down, down is up, right is left, left is right blanket queer th...


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  1. THANK YOU for your link to your breakdown of the Stone Butch thing. Reading "The Well of Loneliness" is Gay 101, of course, but safely 'historical'. And then Feinberg has to come and shit on us all over again.
    "Butch women are the greatest threat to men!"
    Indeed they are, and often the greatest friends and allies to faggots like me. Real, strong people. Real, strong women. Not male-identified self-haters. Any stoner who thinks 'transition' would be a solution to her situation needs to realize she would just be adding physical self-mutilation to her existing psychological damage. And if she reasons that the 'stone' identity better fits a male profile, then sure, she's right, but that just points to how fucked-up men are.
    Does ANYONE with real experience of men SERIOUSLY want to be one? As an out-of-the-box male (but hopefully not TOO much of a 'man'),I can earnestly dis-recommend it.

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  2. I'm pretty sure Leslie Feinberg only took T for a few years in the 70's and is actually suffering badly from LYME DISEASE which was undiagnosed for years. The ill health is from microorganisms, not hormones. I can't believe what an ignorant, lying, manipulative piece of shit you are. You claim to try and tell people the "truth" about transitioning, yet you lack the integrity and strength to accept truths that are not convenient for your hateful platform. I'd say go to hell, but a coward like you already lives in hell. I just feel sorry for you. Your life is pathetic. God help you.

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  3. "Does ANYONE with real experience of men SERIOUSLY want to be one?"


    No. Even men hate themselves and secretly want to be women but are too macho (aka brainwashed by 'the patriarchy') to admit it.

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  4. I'm sorry that you all hate men so much. I've met so many good ones, and met so many women who are just *bad* people. Ultimately it comes down to the person. If you believe anything else, you are the ones living in dreamland and suffering. Sad.

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  5. Dirt, I think this is one of your best articles and its honesty is so pure and forthright that it touched me deeply.

    "Patriarchy may not be crazy about gay-less-than-macho men, but he tolerates them because in the eyes of patriarchy he holds no threat. He is no threat because he is slotted into the same misogynistic category as women. The Butch however is greatly feared by patriarchy! Through the blur of his own gender constructs patriarchy slots Butch women in the category just this side of themselves and so she remains visibly invisible yet invisibly a threat. Butch women are the greatest threat to men!"

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  6. First of all, I'm truly sorry that Leslie Feinberg's health suffered from undiagnosed Lyme disease.

    In my opinion, it's a tragedy the way that the transgender community/queer theory have shamelessly co-opted the word butch. Butches existed before the 1993 publication of "Stone Butch Blues", and despite being "transitioned" to near extinction, we still survive.

    DEAR MS./ZE HIR FEINBERG:

    I WORE BOY'S CLOTHES WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I RODE HORSES, AND I ENJOYED PLAYING ARMY WITH MY BROTHER. INEED, WE HAD EPIC MAKE BELIEVE BATTLES AND WE FOUGHT BRAVELY. I AM NOT TRANSGENDER. THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY DOES NOT OWN A PATENT ON ALL GENDER NON-CONFORMITY BOTH PAST AND PRESENT.

    I'm just a female who rejects traditional sex roles.

    If they will shamelessly co-opt the word butch as if they know how all butches both past and present feel, they will co-opt and appropriate just about anything.

    I would like to make a few comments about the following book, or propaganda depending on how one views it, entitled:

    "Transgender Warriors : Making History from Joan of Arc to Dennis Rodman" by Leslie Feinberg

    Am I to assume that any woman who wore men's clothes in the year 1412was transgender? Isn't it possible that transgender activists and their assorted minions might be perfecting their rare talent for co-opting and appropriating other cultures?

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  7. Leslie Feinberg is a radical social justice activist who has worked for decades to make the world a better place. I have nothing but respect and admiration for Les, who has worked tirelessly for the rights of women, POC, LGBT folks, poor people, prisoners, PWAs and many other marginalized groups. Leslie's legacy of brilliant accomplishments is firmly established and we will carry on hir legacy for many decades to come.

    On the other end of the spectrum is Lynn Baker, AKA Dirty White Boi: a sad, pathetic, hate-filled loser who no credibility, no fans, and no record of accomplishment to make the world a better place. She is the very picture of a self-hating person who flings her self-hatred like shit into the world to demonize one of the most oppressed, despised and powerless groups in our society. I love pointing friends and allies to Lynn's page so they can see what an absolute failure radical feminism is, as well as lesbian feminism. Caught in a 1970s ideology, Lynn is the last gasp of a movement which is (thankfully) moving towards full and total extinction. I look forward to buying the newly released version of Stone Butch Blues and cajoling all my friends and comrades to do the same. Meanwhile. Lynn's work will remain where it should, confined to the corners of the internet and seen by ANYONE wit any sense as a hate-mongering joke. Keep fancying yourself as a vanguardist intellectual, Lynn. In reality, you could not even pass women's studies 101. LOLOLOLOL.....

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  8. Leslie Feinberg is a radical social justice activist who has worked for decades to make the world a better place. I have nothing but respect and admiration for Les, who has worked tirelessly for the rights of women, POC, LGBT folks, poor people, prisoners, PWAs and many other marginalized groups. Leslie's legacy of brilliant accomplishments is firmly established and we will carry on hir legacy for many decades to come.


    First of all, I apologize in advance for not using the proper pronouns or typing 'hir' instead of her or she. I recognize that some are very sensitive about pronouns, gender neutral or otherwise. If one is fortunate enough to be born of the female sex, I personally see no shame in being recognized as female, or being referred to as "she" or "her". I'm not 'hir', and I don’t want to be referred to as ‘hir’. I am simply a woman. I am she or her of the female sex. I hope Leslie Feinberg forgives me for referring to her as “she”.

    I acknowledge some of Feinberg's accomplishments and her commitment to what she believes. I'm especially impressed with the fact that she came from a working class background, and appears to identify, at least in part, with poor and working class people. I do admit that Leslie Feinberg has spunk and a sense of humanity.

    I certainly wouldn't characterize Feinberg as a social justice activist. Who and what is a "social justice activist"? She is a transgender activist, and the bulk of her work has focused on transgender interests. There is nothing wrong with being a transgender activists, and transgender identified people are humans worthy of respect, but women, people of color, and poor people are also oppressed. Below is a list of the books Feinberg has written. With the exception of "Rainbow Solidarity in Defense of Cuba", Feinberg's work has focused almost exclusively on transgender activism. In all honesty, I never had the time to read “Stone Butch Blues”. Why would I read “Stone Butch Blues” when there are so many interesting butch lesbians who have the courage to love themselves deeply as women? They feel no need to mutilate their healthy female bodies or to take an exogenous source of male hormones. I’ve known butch lesbians all my life, and I can say with all certainty that as much as the woman dirtywhiteboi is maligned and demonized, I sense that she has the soul of a butch lesbian. Contrary to what trans activists might believe, it’s not against the law to critique a book. I actually read this unique take on “Stone Butch Blues” by an actual person who identifies as a butch lesbian.

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2009/06/stone-butch-blues-stone-butch-shame.html?spref=bl

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  9. Leslie Feinberg is a radical social justice activist who has worked for decades to make the world a better place. I have nothing but respect and admiration for Les, who has worked tirelessly for the rights of women, POC, LGBT folks, poor people, prisoners, PWAs and many other marginalized groups. Leslie's legacy of brilliant accomplishments is firmly established and we will carry on hir legacy for many decades to come.


    Is Feinberg a “radical social justice activist”? If one wants to call her this, he or she is free to do so. I suppose in our own way, each and every one of us is a social justice activists. Having said this, it’s a fact that her work has primarily focused on transgender activism. If transgender activists are “social justice activists”, then feminists and lesbian feminists are “social justice activists” too. Below is a list of Feinberg's books. How do these books relate to the rights of women, poor people, or prisoners? How do these books relate to gay and lesbian interests? After all, we all know that "transitioning" is being used to erase gay and lesbian identity. Historically, we know that there have been times in history in which sex reassignment surgery has been used to erase gay and lesbian identity. It's probably still going on in Iran, a country that will pay for sex reassignment surgery yet execute homosexuals. How many children given puberty suppressing drugs followed by cross gender hormones at age sixteen would have grown up gay or lesbian if they weren't chemically and surgically altered? It's no secret that butch lesbians are being "transitioned" to near extinction. Who benefits from the erasing of lesbian and female identity? What is so "radical" about patriarchy's attempt to change, alter, or actually erase lesbians from existence as if they never existed?

    Feinberg's work speaks to transgender interests, and I don't doubt that transgender identified people are humans worthy of dignity and respect. In my opinion, it's ludicrous to state, "she works tirelessly for the rights of women", poor people, etc.

    *Transgender Liberation: A Movement Whose Time Has Come, World View Forum, 1992. ISBN 0-89567-105-0
    *Stone Butch Blues, San Francisco: Firebrand Books, 1993. ISBN 1-55583-853-7
    Träume in den erwachenden Morgen: Stone Butch Blues, Berlin: Verlag Krug & Schadenberg, 2008. ISBN 978-3-930041-35-0
    *Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to Dennis Rodman. Boston: Beacon Press, 1996. ISBN 0-8070-7941-3
    *Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue. Beacon Press, 1999. ISBN 0-8070-7951-0
    *Drag King Dreams. New York: Carroll & Graf, 2006. ISBN 0-7867-1763-7
    *Rainbow Solidarity in Defense of Cuba. New York: World View Forum. ISBN 0-89567-150-6

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  10. Leslie's legacy of brilliant accomplishments is firmly established and we will carry on hir legacy for many decades to come... I have nothing but respect and admiration for Les, who has worked tirelessly for the rights of women.

    Unfortunately, the "legacy" continues as 14 and 15 year old girls watch youtube video after youtube video about "T", breast binding, and "top surgery", but it doesn't have anything to do with women's rights. How does breast binding relate to the rights of women? How does "T" (testosterone) relate to the rights of women? How does "top surgery" (elective mastectomies with the surgical whittling down of areolas and nipples) relate to feminism and the rights of women? What about "bottom surgery" on healthy female genitals? How does it relate to feminism?FTM "transitioning" actually erases female identity. Are we to assume that erasing female identity is some how connected to the rights of women and to feminism?

    Since this individual brought up the subject of legacy as in what we leave to future generations and to humanity as a whole, “top surgery” is the part of the overall legacy that the transgender community leaves to the female sex. “T” (testosterone), “bottom surgery”, and puberty suppressing drugs for “gender dysphoric” twelve year old children are also part of this legacy. Will future historians view this legacy as just another form of mutilation of the female body and the sterilization of gender non-conforming people?

    To me, this video feels like violence being carried out against the female sex. This is how biological females go about obtaining the perfect male chest, and if we closely watch the video nothing is Photoshopped because we see the actual flesh, nipples, areolas, and healthy female breasts being carved off the female form. This is not an advertisement, and we can’t simply slip it on as if it were a new article of clothing. "Top surgery" seems to be a rather ghastly Orwellian mix of internalized misogyny coupled with the all too common quest for a commercialized perfect shape or form.

    WARNING! Graphic video

    Dr. Daniel Medalie performs FtM top surgery (double incision mastectomy with nipple grafting)

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting)

    Feinberg has not worked tirelessly for the rights of women. How can she work "tirelessly for the rights of women" when she isn't even comfortable being called a woman not to mention feeling so detached from her own female body that she had to physically alter her body. It's interesting to note that in the glowing paragraph of Feinberg's accomplishments, the person who made the post never once referred to Feinberg as a female or "she". Feinberg is 'hir'.

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  11. "Message from Leslie Feinberg:

    I suffered with tick-borne diseases for 35 years without treatment. In the five plus years since I have been in treatment, I have been diagnosed with late-stage Lyme along with serious coinfections including Babesiosis, Protomyxzoa Rheumatica, and Bartonella. My 20-year pattern of periodic immuno-suppression has become chronic for quite some time.

    My body is failing so fast that I can’t undergo more diagnostic and treatment attempts. It is difficult for me to swallow, walk, breathe, talk and write. This sharp decline, evidenced in labs and in life, has forced me to set up home hospice care quickly
    "

    http://leslie-feinberg.tumblr.com/

    I'm deeply sorry about this, and I mean it with all sincerity. I didn't know that Leslie was so sick.



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