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Sunday, July 28, 2013

The Trans Politic hoping to use/abuse UK Child Neglect Law

The British Association of Social Workers (BASW) have given their support for today’s debate overhaul of the UK’s 80-year-old child neglect law, which does not even include the Government’s own definition of neglect. Updating an 80 year old child neglect law would seem to be a very positive move by government for children who are neglected or whose neglect slips through far too many cracks, cracks that this "overhaul" might just be able to catch.

But positivity soon sours when in the gullet of the Trans Politic who according to several major trans forums/sites and YouTubes are hoping to use the child neglect updates to prosecute "neglectful" parents of "trans kids". Neglect in these cases being parents who would not administer dangerous hormone blocking drugs, agree to brutal trans surgeries that damage the healthy bodies of their child for life and even parents who do not she their toddler son who enjoys playing with his sister's doll or he their young daughter who wants to play baseball like her old brother!

While I dont see this going anywhere beyond the wishful thinking of some very disturbed minds, it certainly must give supporters of the Trans Politic some serious pause! Who in their right mind would compare a child regularly battered, regularly hungry, regularly unwashed, regularly raped etc etc etc to a child who wants to wear pants but who's parents only buys her dresses? And having known plenty of lesbians who HATED wearing dresses, none would ever dare say their parents neglected them by putting them in dresses. In fact this uncomfortableness with "girls" clothes gave them later, a greater insight into the workings of the Gender Straight Jacket for which they as adults are grateful!

Its interesting to hear so often from gay and lesbian adults who were "nancy boys" or "tomboys", whose personal narratives rival any trans narrative out there by a mile! Boys who when playing house ALWAYS played the "mom" and girls who used "boy" names when they referred to themselves at preschool ages. Gays and Lesbians who are thankful they didnt grow up in this pro-homophobic-pro-transition age, because had they, they believe they would have been propelled toward transition, by parents, by society, by the medical community, by the trans trend itself. And instead of discovering who they really were as individuals, they would have been consumed by transition to cover up their true individual selves.

But we arent talking about gays or lesbians, we are talking about straight white male female fetishizers who are more concerned with their dick/phallus that they will blindly use and abuse anyone regardless of age or need to justify their sick, vile, pornographically filled female fetishes. And as this move makes perfectly clear, even to the detriment of truly neglected and abused children.

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  1. Child abuse is not only the extremes. To me forcing a child to dress and act a certain way because it pleases you is abusive. That says your feelings, comfort, and happiness aren't important. It says to a child that they aren't accepted unless they fit a certain idea of boy or girl. In my mind all those tomboys and nancyboys were being abused, when their parents forced them to fit a certain role. I don't think you should gender a child based on behavior but I also think you shouldn't tell a child they have to be different than they are to be accepted. A parent should love their child for who they are and if they don't and in fact try to force them into a role that is certainly abusive.

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  2. Also dirt, could you provide links to these sites and videos that say these things, I'd like to see both sides so my opinions are informed.

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  3. If you want children to stop developing dysphoria, you need to make it clear to parents that they must not force gender stereotypes onto their children. Do that, and if it is caused by the oppressive gender binary, the next generation won't suffer dysphoria. This is what you want, isn't it? It isn't neglect, its abuse, so perhaps its the wrong law.

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  4. A neglected/abused child is one who no one takes much (if any) interest in or cares much about what they think or feel, and you can be sure no one will care about what kind of clothes it may want to wear. Most likely it will be quietly wearing hand-me-downs. Many such kids are often kind of in a daze, and have serious stress and problems like if there is any food, wondering if an abusive parent will be going nuts in the middle of the night, if they are safe, what they will do if a, b, or c happens.
    None of this “Oh, I had to wear boy clothes or girl clothes” or “Gee, my parents won’t give me hormone blockers” because they think they have a brain from the opposite sex, counts as neglect/abuse.
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  5. It needs a complete societal change. A lot of radical feminists make it clear how horribly they were treated as children. If the law demanded an end to gender binary adherence, those women would probably be happier adults. You don't fix society by ignoring the less extreme forms of bad parenting. You fix all aspects. Whether its hungry kids, fathers who yell and scream at their daughter, mothers who refuse to allow their daughter to take drafting cause only boys can do that, etc. It all needs to stop.

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  6. If you want children to stop developing dysphoria, you need to make it clear to parents that they must not force gender stereotypes onto their children. Do that, and if it is caused by the oppressive gender binary, the next generation won't suffer dysphoria. This is what you want, isn't it? It isn't neglect, its abuse, so perhaps its the wrong law.

    Sterilization of children and the eugenics of gender non-conforming children is not child abuse....

    ...repeat...it's not child abuse.

    No one wants to force gender stereotypes on children. If sex based stereotypes of socially acceptable "masculinity" and "femininity" are offensive, then why do these children who rebel against rigid roles need to be chemically and surgically altered? Why do they need to be fixed in the first place?

    Giving puberty suppressing drugs to children who don't fit neatly into sex based stereotypes is, in my opinion, bordering on child abuse. Twelve and thirteen year old children do not have the mental capacity to understand what is Lupron is. Moreover, the transgender community isn't being completely honest about the side effects of Lupron. Adolescence is a normal part of human development. Intentionally delaying a normal part of human development because of what essentially amounts to a psychiatric diagnosis in children is Orwellian and wide open for abuse.

    The sterilization of children is not only child abuse, it's generally recognized as a human rights abuse. The transgender community keeps saying that the effects of puberty suppressing drugs are reversable, but they aren't telling the entire truth about this issue.

    Treatment with puberty delaying drugs leads to sterilization if it is followed with the administration of cross sex hormones at 16 years, as the Brill and Pepper handbook on “transgender” children (2008), explains, “the choice to progress from GnRH inhibitors to estrogen without fully experiencing male puberty should be viewed as giving up one's fertility, and the family and child should be counseled accordingly” (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 216). For girls, sterilization is the outcome too, because “eggs do not mature until the body goes through puberty” (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 216). The issue of fertility, the handbook asserts, may bother parents more than the “teens”, because the latter may think shortterm and not be able to contemplate much more than getting transgendered in the present (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 220). The handbook speaks of other serious effects of the transgendering of children. It says that birth defects may occur in children born to “transmen taking testosterone prior to pregnancy” (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 219). It also warns that genital surgery can lead to the absence of sexual feeling, and comments that young people may not understand the importance of this (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 220). But, the handbook advises, “teens” can have sexual surgeries such as the removal of testes or breast removal, at any age, not necessarily 18, so long as their parents and a surgeon are willing (Brill & Pepper, 2008, p. 220). This does seem to contradict the warnings that accompany this advice, about the difficulty “teens” may have in understanding the implications of such surgeries for fertility and sexual pleasure.

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  7. The eugenics of gender non-conforming children could be characterized as child abuse. The sterilization of children is often regarded as a human rights abuse.

    "The practice of transgendering children is on the rise in Australia and internationally and should be understood as an „emerging‟ harmful cultural practice. In this practice children are diagnosed by psychiatrists as suffering from "gender identity disorder" in childhood and placed on puberty delaying drugs until they reach 16 years old, and cross sex hormones from then until they are 18, when it is expected that they will
    have their sexual organs surgically removed. This practice affects both girls and boys, and does not, therefore, fit neatly into the criteria for the recognition of a harmful cultural practice i.e. harmful to the health of "women and girls‟. However, the practice arises from the same source as practices harmful to women and girls, the imposition of stereotypical notions of gender and should, on that basis, be included.
    This practice was carried out on three children in Australia in the last decade. Alex, a 13 year old girl, was transgendered after a Family Court of Australia order in 2004 (Family Court of Australia, 2004; Jeffreys, 2006). Brodie, a 12 year old girl, was transgendered after such an order in 2008 (Family Court of Australia, 2008), and Jamie, a 10 year old boy, in 2011 (Family Court of Australia, 2011). Other children under the age of 18 have also been transgendered in this period, but these three cases have received most attention because of the young age of those so treated.

    The transgendering of children should be understood as one of those „customs and practices‟ which constitute discrimination, not necessarily „against women‟ but certainly on the basis of sex (CEDAW, Article 2 (f)). This is an increasing practice
    which originates in "prejudices‟ which are based on the idea of „stereotyped roles for men and women‟ (CEDAW, Article 5 (a))

    http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/CEDAW/HarmfulPractices/SheilaJeffreys.pdf

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  8. If you want children to stop developing dysphoria, you need to make it clear to parents that they must not force gender stereotypes onto their children.

    We don't want to force gender stereotypes on children. However, if children do exhibit gender non-conformity, WE CAN FIX IT.

    There is no way of clearly distinguishing the "gender dysphoria" in children from parental attitudes and ideas of what constitutes appropriate sex based behaviors of "masculine" and "feminine". Because they don't like playing with dolls, five year old girls who used to be called "tomboys" are now slapped with a label of "gender dysphoria" or "transgender". Some parents would rather give their female children puberty suppressing drugs followed by testosterone at age 16 than to have a tomboyish, lesbian daughter.

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  9. Whether its hungry kids, fathers who yell and scream at their daughter, mothers who refuse to allow their daughter to take drafting cause only boys can do that, etc

    Girls don't play with building blocks or cars....it's not sexist...

    If a five year old female child likes to play with building blocks and cars instead of pretty dolls, then she MUST really be a boy. It's not sexist at all to call a girl "he" or "him" if she doesn't like baby dolls.

    "He already asked about surgery".

    Where do five year old children hear about sex reassignment surgery? In the video, the mother says, "he already asked about surgery". Isn't it possible that transgender is just a comfortable way for some parents to deal with their own ideas, notions, prejudices, and fears at having a child who doesn't fit into culturally based stereotypes of masculine and feminine.



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  10. @ Fox
    "In my mind all those tomboys and nancyboys were being abused, when their parents forced them to fit a certain role."
    I'm a parent myself now, and I'd be mortified to think that every misjudgement or wrong decision would be held against me later as abuse or neglect. I don't think my own parents deserve that either. Were they supposed to say, in the 50s/60s "Yay, hip-hooray, our son's a little proto-faggot!"? Like any of us, they were just honest people, muddling through. As Germany points out, real neglect and abuse are something quite different.

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    1. I'm not saying every patenting mistake is abuse, I'm saying it's abusive to convey the message that a child won't be loved or accepted unless they are a certain way. To put across the message I don't love you for you, but only if you fit this ideal is wrong. I know what it's like to face the more extreme forms of abuse, I was abused emotionally, physically, and sexually as a child, but I don't think that you can compare pain. The worst experience in your life is defined by how it affects you, not what was done. A child who isn't loved unless they conform is hurt in a different way than other's are but it doesn't make the hurt any less because it may be the worst hurt they've ever known.

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