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Thursday, June 6, 2013

Transgender Kids-The Present and Future of Sissy Boys and Tomboys Everywhere

A random sampling from Google images when searching "transgender kids":
Thanks to the pornographic "female" fetishizers known as the Trans Politic, homophobic parents now have a medical choice to transition their gay and lesbian children, rather than live with the HORROR of having a gay son or a dyke dyke daughter. The queer rainbow is swiftly shrinking and like a black hole, the T (trans) is swallowing the rest of the queer alphabet soup right up.

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  1. This is nothing more than fear mongering and conspiracy theorists.

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  2. I blame modern psychiatry for this. These kids obviously didn't "fit" the gender roles forced on them, and were diagnosed as "trans" to fit them into the other set of gender roles and norms. Add puberty blockers and hormones into the mix and you'll see how this is nothing but child abuse.

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  3. Tomboy doesn't automatically equal lesbian. Sissy doesn't automatically equal gay. The sexuality of these children is none of your business, nor is their transition. You don't get to decide anything for anyone but yourselves.

    Gay ftms exist. Lesbian mtfs exist. Get the fuck over it and stop shitting on a marginalized group who have it hard enough. I don't buy your 'caring' angle one little bit.

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  4. What the hell is wrong with these parents? Every single one of these children and their children need psychological counseling, REAL counseling, not a visit from a social worker recommended to them by the trans folk that infiltrated their local PFLAG.

    Why is this tolerated? Why is this okay? Is this what the Stonewall Riots were for? Don't think so. Lesbians and gays didn't fight for equal treatment so a 12 year old girl could stop her horrible icky periods and mutilate herself.

    I'm a straight feminist lady, but the reason this gets to me so much is that I have four young children. The very idea that my sons could just decide to inject body-altering drugs or my daughter could have an unnecessary double mastectomy, all because of a mental illness, not only infuriates me but genuinely terrifies me.

    Then there's these horrifying comments:

    "We never had a son"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032326/Transgender-support-We-son-We-daughter-born-wrong-body.html

    "... what i need most right now is just the chance to grieve for the *you* that has probably never existed outside of my own head"
    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/05/transition-mothers-worst-nightmare.html

    "The child that I knew, and the child that's in the picture on the icebox, that I knew and grew up with is gone. Just pure and simple, she's gone."
    http://transom.org/?p=9445

    That just breaks my heart. Because you know what, transfolk? You don't get to do that. You don't get to take people's children from them and call it integrity and triumph. You don't get to blithely walk through your life erasing the memories of your childhood from your family members. You don't get to pretend your siblings never had a brother or sister, you don't get to pretend your parents never had a son or daughter. You want to mutilate your breasts because of your body dis-morphia? Fine. But you don't get to pretend you're now a son instead of a daughter no matter how many testosterone injections you give yourself.

    -Erica

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  5. To Anon of 12:10pm - Calling male to trans a "marginalized" group is bullshit. There are so many young girls who are pushed into heterosexuality, where's your anger at that???

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  6. Tomboy doesn't automatically equal lesbian. Sissy doesn't automatically equal gay.

    This was addressed in numerous posts on this blog. Apparently, no one wants to address this subject, and the trans community cleverly dances and darts around the issue. When this no longer works, they often intimidate in order to silence people.

    The following is from an earlier article on the Gender Odyssey Family workshop.

    We have heard it all before. Sexual orientation is not the same as gender identity. Is this all there is to it? I don't think so, and the transgender community is intentionally being dishonest on this critical issue. If we look at actual childhood behaviors, or propensity for certain behaviors, it gets more complicated. Scientists and researchers have known for some time that childhood deviations from sex based gender role norms, or what was once simply called ‘tomboyish’ or ‘sissy’ behavior, dress, play, etc. is a fairly good indicator of future sexual orientation. This is something that most people seem to intuitively know. A lot of tomboys and sissy boys, if left alone, do grow up to be healthy and productive gay men and lesbians. That is, unless they are “transitioned” at an early age starting first with puberty suppressing drugs at age twelve or thirteen, then followed by cross gender hormones at age sixteen.

    "Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981931

    "For example, in a 2008 study psychologist Kelley Drummond and her colleagues interviewed 25 adult women who were referred by their parents for assessment at a mental health clinic when they were between three and 12 years old. At the time, all these girls had several diagnostic indicators of gender identity disorder. They might have strongly preferred male playmates, insisted on wearing boys' clothing, favored rough-and-tumble play, stated that they would eventually grow a penis or refused to urinate in a sitting position. Although only 12 percent of these women grew up to be gender dysphoric (the uncomfortable sense that your biological sex does not match your gender), the odds of these women reporting a bisexual or homosexual orientation were up to 23 times higher than would occur in a general sample of young women. Not all tomboys become lesbians, of course, but these data suggest that lesbians often have a history of cross-sex-typed behaviors.
    And the same holds for gay men. Bailey and Zucker, who conducted a retrospective study in which adults answered questions about their past, revealed that 89 percent of randomly sampled gay men recalled cross-sex-typed childhood behaviors exceeding the heterosexual median.
    Critics have argued that participants' memories may be distorted to fit with societal expectations and stereotypes. But in a clever study published in 2008in Developmental Psychology, evidence from childhood home videos validated this retrospective method. People blindly coded child targets on the latter's sex-typical behaviors, as shown on the screen. The authors found that “those targets who, as adults, identified themselves as homosexual were judged to be gender nonconforming as children.”
    Numerous studies have since replicated this general pattern, revealing a strong link between childhood deviations from gender role norms and adult sexual orientation. There is also evidence of a “dosage effect”: the more gender-nonconforming characteristics there are in childhood, the more likely it is that a homosexual or bisexual orientation will be present in adulthood.”

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=is-your-child-gay&page=2



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  7. My sister was very much a "tomboy" as a child, and she didn't grow up to be a dyke. She is married and has three beautiful children, and isn't the least bit butch.

    On the other hand, as a child she never claimed to be a boy, or that she wanted to be one. She was simply a girl who wasn't into "girly" things.

    You people who are so obsessed with transgenders seem unable to understand that these transgender children aren't being forced to switch gender. Every one of them wants to be a member of the opposite sex, feels internally that they were born into the wrong sex, pleads to be able to switch gender. This is NOT child abuse. In fact, I wish that my parents had been so open-minded, and that I could have grown into the proper gender and not, as an adult, have to undo all of the changes that I underwent during puberty.

    But I realize that my words mean nothing to you. You would rather that all of us spend our entire lives the way YOU want us to, because your tiny little minds just can't process what we go through.

    Keep in mind that until the 1970's, homosexuality was also considered a mental illness.

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  8. "And the same holds for gay men. Bailey and Zucker, who conducted a retrospective study in which adults answered questions about their past, revealed that 89 percent of randomly sampled gay men recalled cross-sex-typed childhood behaviors exceeding the heterosexual median."

    Remember that Kids in the Hall sketch where Scott Thompson describes what he got up to as a child when his parents weren't home? He'd put on his mom's makeup and wrap a towel around his head so he could pretend to be a beautiful woman with long hair.

    Today, he'd be referred to a trans-positive therapist, given hormones and whisked off to a surgeon while still a juvenile.

    -Erica

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  9. To Erica....drink bleach and die, you fucking cunt

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  10. Anon, it's not the chlorine that kills so much as the cancer-causing synthetic hormones.

    That and the suicide.

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  11. Erika: Bailey and Zucker are known rabid homophobes and transphobes. So take your junk science and shove it up your moth ball filled stank pussy. Dirt always delivers the lulz, and for that I am eternally grateful. This conspiracy that trans are colonizing teh gays is hysterical. I wish the trans community was that powerful. Also, gender expression does NOT equal sexual orientation. How many times does this simple concept need to be explained to you trans-hating fuckwads? Saying that a "sissy" boy is gay and a "tomboyish" girl is lesbian is incredibly homophobic, transphobic and sexist. There is NO correlation between gender atypical behavior and sexuality, so quit lying through your teeth. And news flash: trans people can also grow up to be "healthy and productive" so quit saying that being a gay or lesbian is somehow a better "outcome." This only demonstrates the virulence of your cis-supremacy and transphobic hate. Fuck right off with that noise.

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  12. The sexuality of these children is none of your business, nor is their transition.

    First of all, children do not have the mental capacity, maturity, or judgment to carefully weigh all their options. Second, their "transitioning" starting out with puberty suppressing drugs at age 11 or 12 seems like an Orwellian form of child abuse. At this age, there really is no way to distinguish "gender identity disorder" from everything that the parents picked up at one of the thousands of trans websites. Actually, I googled "trans" and "children" and I got 106,000,000 hits. So, there is a lot of so-called "information" out there, and people just blindly go along with it. Isn't it possible that the parental attitudes, fears, and confusion at having a child that doesn't fit neatly into sex based gender roles is planting or reinforcing the "gender identity disorder". After all, if the "trans informed" parents of a five year old girl starts calling her "he" or "him" long enough, I imagine that she will start to believe it.

    History will be the judge of this, and I have my doubts on the issue of puberty suppressing drugs for what amounts to a psychiatric diagnosis in children.

    The sexuality of these children is none of your business, nor is their transition.

    "I would much rather see my daughter grow up to be a trans man and receive the respect that comes from being a man, rather than be steered into becoming a carpet muncher and someone who gets absolutely no respect in our society."

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/camps-influencing-our-impressionable.html

    I think we can all agree that no one lives in a complete cultural vacuum. Moreover, history is littered with medical fads and trends that seemed miraculous at one time, but eventually turned out to be ghastly experiments gone awry.

    As to the ethical issues intertwined with "transitioning", this has been covered in depth before on this blog. Go to the Gender Odyssey Family post and scroll down to "Even IF the desire to transition comes partially from societal pressure or cultural mores, so what?" Just copy and paste the link below. I haven't been able to figure out how to use the link tag.

    http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7052569269898007444&postID=849021211674227303

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  13. Uh, I'm not the one who wrote that post about Bailey and Zucker, Anon. I quote an above post.

    But thanks for pointing out possible homophobes, I guess? And I appreciate the valuable info sprinkled in with uplifting female-empowering terms like, "moth ball filled stank pussy" while accusing others of sexism.

    Gave me a lot to think about when it comes to the trans community

    -Erica

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  14. THIS IS NOT BAILEY OR ZUKER...

    "Homosexual adults tend to be more gender nonconforming than heterosexual adults in some of their behaviors, feelings, and interests. Retrospective studies have also shown large differences in childhood gender nonconformity, but these studies have been criticized for possible memory biases. The authors studied an indicator of childhood gender nonconformity not subject to such biases: childhood home videos. They recruited homosexual and heterosexual men and women (targets) with videos from their childhood and subsequently asked heterosexual and homosexual raters to judge the gender nonconformity of the targets from both the childhood videos and adult videos made for the study. Prehomosexual children were judged more gender nonconforming, on average, than preheterosexual children, and this pattern obtained for both men and women. This difference emerged early, carried into adulthood, and was consistent with self-report. In addition, targets who were more gender nonconforming tended to recall more childhood rejection.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194004

    "Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981931


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  15. Erika, I'm so sorry that you had to experience this, but THEY GET VERY UPSET IF WOMEN DISAGREE WITH THEM. Underneath all the trans is cool and progressive fluff is a raw misogyny that can't honestly be believed until it's experienced.

    "Uh, I'm not the one who wrote that post about Bailey and Zucker, Anon. I quote an above post.

    But thanks for pointing out possible homophobes, I guess? And I appreciate the valuable info sprinkled in with uplifting female-empowering terms like, "moth ball filled stank pussy" while accusing others of sexism.

    Gave me a lot to think about when it comes to the trans community"

    -Erica

    They feel very comfortable harassing women. Apparently, I'm the female with "moth ball filled stank pussy". I'm a female and proud. By the way Erica, WOMEN FAR OUT NUMBER TRANSGENDER AND WE HAVE WAY MORE VOTING POWER THAN THEY DO. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT...

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  16. FFS, Butch lesbians and FTMs can co-exist just like Feminine gay men and MTFs can co-exist .

    You seriously OVER-ANALYZE everything and see misogyny/ anti-lesbian attacks in every little thing. How can you think like that all day? Don't you get a headache? What's your blood pressure? There is NO AGENDA to wipe out gay and lesbians with trans people. That is so damn ridiculous it makes me laugh. I'm FTM and have never hated any gays/ lesbians in my life and most people (especially rich rightwingers who have most of the power in this nation) don't even understand what transgenders are and assume they're gay. Do you really think homophobes are going to force their children to get SRS out of fear that they might be gay/ lesbian? LMMFAO Hell no. Also, you have to be an adult to have SRS (and I agree with that); these trans kids don't get surgery, hormones or anything that would permanently sterilize them. They're simply able to change their names and present themselves the way they want at school. And even if they're old enough to request puberty blockers at like 14, they can always change their mind, get off them and resume puberty. There's no children being sterilized in your paranoid rantings,

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  17. "Erika, I'm so sorry that you had to experience this, but THEY GET VERY UPSET IF WOMEN DISAGREE WITH THEM."

    It's okay, Anon. It's not the first time or will it be the last my dissonance will be somehow attributed to my genitals. (My wonderful father once told me as a young teenager that you'll know a decent person when he or she doesn't care about your vagina.)

    One of the many things that bother me about transgenderism is that it's under the LGB umbrella. I've never been an "active" supporter of gay and lesbian rights, just a supporter through common decency.

    So, because transgenderism is lumped in with homosexuality when it comes to the general public and broad media, the idea of trans criticism is treated with disdain and scorn as though you hate all the gays. Try explaining to a LGBT ally that homosexuality does not equal transgenderism, and that diagnosing very young children as such is getting ridiculous, and suddenly you're calling for Sharia law.

    -Erica

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  18. I don't approve of the insults, but quite frankly, you spend your lives telling trans people they don't exist, or that they're freak and perverts, and you expect them not to be angry and offended by your bullshit? All you're doing is contributing to a climate which gets actual people killed.

    Knock it off.

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  19. "I don't approve of the insults, but quite frankly, you spend your lives telling trans people they don't exist..."

    Actually, Anon, it's the trans camp who are claiming they don't exist:

    As difficult as this is to hear, your boyfriend never existed
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120101214901AAHcTe7

    I don't think my sister will ever except the fact that she never had a brother, but a sister.
    http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Transgender/forum/11316748-update

    You never had a sister
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130319221545AAntoGw

    You never had a brother
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130408145117AAbJS6Z


    -Erica

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  20. "I don't approve of the insults, but quite frankly, you spend your lives telling trans people they don't exist, or that they're freak and perverts, and you expect them not to be angry and offended by your bullshit? All you're doing is contributing to a climate which gets actual people killed."

    Hey, ALL the usual tropes in a couple of sentences -- well done!

    1) No one is saying trans people don't exist, just that we don't AGREE with them as to the existence of gender, and the supposed dissonance between gender and sex.

    2) Not the same as freaks and perverts........

    3)" angry and offended" Which doesn't excuse the threats of violence, sexism, homophobia etc etc. Plus let's get serious, there is a vast difference between anger and feeling offended, and ACTUAL harm. So, you don't have an inalienable right NOT to be offended for starters.........

    4)"contributing to a climate which gets actual people killed" Right, yeah, like the men that actually harm women and children and trans people and gay people are going to be motivated in any way whatsoever by radfem theories on gender...........

    Try blaming those who are actually responsible for the violence, which I think you'll find is more often that not based in the same sexism and homophobia that we all know and love.

    But top marks for being so succinct!

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  21. T@ Bad Dyke

    You need to change your name to Smart Dyke. I think the fact that they can parrot all the tropes is another symptom. I was waiting for the suicide threat and blame--Motherhood

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  22. I always wonder how agressive and hateful towards women some transtrenders can be. Calling women cunts who have to drink belach and die.
    Most transtrenders still have a vagina and were raised as a woman. What happened to them? Does T do this to you?
    I would think that transtrenders treat women well because they know how it is. I'm so wrong.
    T is a wonderful drug, it can make you violent. Congrats on that, wow.


    Big

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  23. @June 7, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    It is 9 times out of 10 that the ones that issue death threats against women are men XY that claim to be woman. The are violent misogynist and use the word cunt all the time because the idea of vagina reminds them they are men. Along a similar line they demand that women honor their delusion and accept their penis as not a male penis but a magic and special "women" penis. Heterosexual males make up over 80% of what is called Trans. I highly doubt they are XX.

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  24. "Tomboy doesn't automatically equal lesbian. Sissy doesn't automatically equal gay. "

    This is absolutely true, but there is a large body of research that goes back decades that shows that children who are more gender nonconforming (sissy boys and tomboys) tend to grow up to be gay or lesbian, or at least have a sexual attraction to their own sex. From my research, this is probably more true for men than women.

    No one every said that every tomboy becomes a lesbian or every sissy boy becomes a gay man.

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  25. There is NO correlation between gender atypical behavior and sexuality, so quit lying through your teeth.

    "This study provided information on the natural histories of 25 girls with gender identity disorder (GID). Standardized assessment data in childhood (mean age, 8.88 years; range, 3-12 years) and at follow-up (mean age, 23.24 years; range, 15-36 years) were used to evaluate gender identity and sexual orientation. At the assessment in childhood, 60%of the girls met the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders criteria for GID, and 40%were subthreshold for the diagnosis. At follow-up, 3 participants (12%) were judged to have GID or gender dysphoria. Regarding sexual orientation, 8 participants (32%) were classified as bisexual/homosexual in fantasy, and 6 (24%) were classified as bisexual/homosexual in behavior. The remaining participants were classified as either heterosexual or asexual. The rates of GID persistence and bisexual/homosexual sexual orientation were substantially higher than base rates in the general female population derived from epidemiological or survey studies. There was some evidence of a "dosage" effect, with girls who were more cross-sex typed in their childhood behavior more likely to be gender dysphoric at follow-up and more likely to have been classified as bisexual/homosexual in behavior (but not in fantasy).

    http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/dev/44/1/34/

    No one is saying that every tomboy becomes a lesbian. I don't recall anyone on this blog ever saying such a thing. After all, this is just common sense. However, I don't understand why the transgender community refuses to acknowledge decades of research that shows a link between childhood deviations from gender role norms and adult sexual orientation. Let's say it's not a strong correlation, but if a correlation does exist what does it mean? Perhaps one of the reasons why the transgender community becomes so hostile and defensive over this subject is because they know the truth, but just won't admit it. We aren't even allowed to whisper that gay and lesbian eugenics might be going on.

    I've always said that it's not a matter of whether or not "transitioning" is being used to erase gay and lesbian identity. Rather, it's a matter of degree, or to what extent that it's occurring. We see this all around us, but we are told to not trust our own eyes or our own judgment. After all, we do know for a fact that historically there have been times in which sex reassignment surgery has been used as a means of social control, specifically the erasing of gay and lesbian identity. THIS IS HAPPENING IN IRAN WHEREBY GAY MEN ARE COERECED INTO SEX REASSIGNMENT SURGERY. HOMOSEXUALITY IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH, BUT THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT WILL PAY FOR SEX REASSIGNMENT SURGERY. What does this tell us?

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  26. The trans trender machine is ruining innocent lesbians who figure out too late they regret they ruined their bodies thru HRT and breast removal. Every potential trans trender should read this blog and take a look at some regretting videos before making any irreversable change. The FTM machine has got to stop!!! Thank you Dirt!!!!

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  27. @There is NO correlation between gender atypical behavior and sexuality, so quit lying through your teeth. Yep, well said.

    They lie, they use children because this is the political hinge pin that is used in their political argument which is for the benefit of their majority--heterosexual male autogynaphilliacs. The whole delusion is riding on making sure that that nobody notices they are violent misogynistic cross dressers. Who will use children, girls, boys women to keep the lies afloat--

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  28. "They're simply able to change their names and present themselves the way they want at school. And even if they're old enough to request puberty blockers at like 14, they can always change their mind, get off them and resume puberty. There's no children being sterilized in your paranoid rantings".

    Am I to assume that 14 year old children "request" puberty suppressing drugs? Are we that naïve, or for the lack of a better word, ignorant. These children DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.

    Yes, it is true that puberty suppressing drugs can be stopped and normal adolescence will continue, but some children go straight from the puberty suppressing drugs to cross gender hormones. Isn't it true that if cross gender hormones are given right after puberty suppressing drugs, future fertility can be jeopardized. It's my understanding, that with parental approval, cross gender hormones can start at age 16.

    BECAUSE ENDOCRINOLOGIST MAKE A **IT LOAD OF MONEY WITH THE PUBERTY SUPPRESSING DRUGS/CROSS GENDER HORMONES, THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY

    2.2. We recommend that suppression of pubertal hormones
    start when girls and boys first exhibit physical
    changes of puberty (confirmed by pubertal levels of estradiol
    and testosterone, respectively), but no earlier than
    Tanner stages 2–3. (1 QQEE)
    2.3. We recommend that GnRH analogs be used to achieve suppression of pubertal hormones.
    2.4. We suggest that pubertal development of the desired
    opposite sex be initiated at about the age of 16 yr, using a gradually increasing dose schedule of cross-sex steroids.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/94/9/3132.full.pdf

    THIS IS WHAT SCIENTISTS HAVE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME...BESIDES, IT IS COMMON SENSE..

    The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the “CEO of the brain.” This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of “correct” behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals.1This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise “good judgment” when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.”

    http://www.hhs.gov/opa/familylife/tech_assistance/etraining/adolescent_brain/Development/prefrontal_cortex/

    These children do not have the mental capacity or judgment to understand or fully comprehend what is being done to them, and to weigh all their options.

    A NORMAL PART OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, ADOLESCENCE, IS BEING HALTED BECAUSE OF WHAT BASICALLY AMOUNTS TO A PSYCIATRIC DIAGNOSIS IN CHILDREN.

    The main reason that puberty suppressing drugs are given to children (I think the youngest kid was 11) is because there is less healthy tissue to surgically remove later. That is, boys don't develop masculine characteristics and girls get little, if any, breast development. They are said to "pass better" as adults. In essence, we are de-sexing human beings.

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  29. Oh FFS will you people stop using Iran as proof that SRS is colonizing gays and lesbians? NEWSFLASH: the US of A is NOT Iran--got it? It is MUCH more acceptable to be gay than to be trans in the US, and parents would MUCH rather have a gay kid than a trans one. Your ridiculous theory that people are rushing to transition their kids into heterosexuality is patently absurd. Not to mention it erases the many trans girls that ID as lesbian and the many trans boys that ID as gay male. And stop saying that trans activists are motivated by misogyny. Most trans people are feminists. It is YOU that is motivated by virulent anti-trans HATRED! The architect of anti-trans hatred, Catholic nun turned "lesbian feminist" Janice G. Raymond is a Nazi who fomented so much hatred against trans people that she incited a genocide. She has blood on her hands and the hatred against her by trans people is 1000% justified!

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  30. Your obsession with transgender people and what they are doing amuses me.

    The lot of you really should stop obsessing and just transition, because it is quite obvious that that's what you want to do.

    Or in other words, get a life.

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  31. The US was Iran long before Iran was Iran or trans wouldnt exist at all today.

    dirt

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  33. @ Dirt

    You don't even make sense.

    We're still here. We're still not going away.

    How do you explain all the ftms who transitioned long after their teens, after many years of struggling with their identities? And no, you don't get to answer 'internalised homophobia' or 'because patriarchy'. How do you explain all the trans people not in the US? How do you explain the trans people who were never tomboys, never sissy, didn't conform to the standard trans narrative you like to pretend is the only one that exists? How do you explain femme trans guys, butch trans women (hint, without resorting to your usual, they're really girls, they're really men).

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  34. 
@ We're still here. We're still not going away.
    So, your point is what?
    You have nowhere to go. We get that. It isn’t like the people are fighting each other to share hearth and home with you. You exist. Great. But a male is still an male and a female a female—and your delusion, disphoria or temper tantrum is changing that. People say, yeah what a jerk and keep moving they have place to go. You have a obsession, yourself. How boring. Educate yourself. Seriously I don’t want to be pay taxes for your “disability.”

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  35. Um, actually people *are* fighting each other to share hearth and home with me.

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  36. "Most trans people are feminists"

    Feminism 101 Trans Version...women are you listening...

    dastardlyinfection:

    “It’s probably for the best that I don’t go to feminist events

    I have a tendency to flail my fists at people’s faces when in close proximity to shitty feminists”

    Doldrumsinferno:

    “Me too…it’s really really fucking frustrating”

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/

    “If I had any superpower I’d have the power to punch people through computer screens

    Within a week there’d be no more radical feminism.”

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/

    “Brennan, go fuck yourself with a rusted chainsaw. Better cover it in various toxins too, I hear that those enhance the experience.”

    http://genderbitch.tumblr.com/post/26227759103/fuc…

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/2

    “sometimes i get so irritated by people who try to belittle me for being trans. especially women. the thing that gets me is that they’re always disgusting looking, or you know, just plain ugly.

    the only thought that ever comes to my mind is “i may have a dick, but i make a hotter woman than you do. so what exactly does that make you?”

    but, instead, i remain calm. i laugh in their face, or make a joke out of them in some other way. you know, real sly-like. i act like it doesn’t bother me that a neanderthal of a woman is trying to lessen my worth, or my femininity. because let’s be honest… what do they know about any of that anyways?

    regardless, it still takes every fiber of my being not to bash them in their putrid face with a brick.”


    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/2

    "I want you all to realize, I’m; the ultimate Libertarian. If you are cool with me, I’m cool with you. IF NOT, LEAVE ME and MINE alone, or I will harm you. Violence is always an option, and I have studied to dispense violence all my life.

    aerynxv 5 months ago

    "We trans womyn have to battle for our very right to exist and transition against hordes of Fascist JaniceRaymondiod lesbian bulldyke 2nd wave radfems. We do NOT appreciate self-loathing little boyz taking up for the trans-exterminationist diesel dyke crowd. If you come to terms with taking a man as your ex partner, you too can avoid chasing nasty cis-woman coochie and free yourself from cis-woman mind-fuckkery!”

    http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/aerynxv/

    "What I see here are typical asshole feminist bitches who know nothing about FTMs, what they go through mentally, physically and emotionally with their bodies and sense of self. ...ugly ass cow. bitch, bitch....BITCH...fuggly ass dyke. Fuck off you bulldagging bitch."

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/08/ftm-where-self-hating-women-and-hatred.html

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  37. "Most trans people are feminists".

    Feminism 101 Trans Version...women are you listening...


    "What a piece of trash, whoever wrote that. Filthy Cis scum. I’m about to get offensive So don;t read this if you get offended easily.. I may BE a TRANS WOMAN, But at the end of the day bitch, I’m sure I look about a million times better and more feminine than ANY DYKE you could ever get, m kay HUNTY?HAVE your filthy period and birth out and continue to shove phallac objects up your filthy cunt , at the end of the day I’ve assimilated into society as a WOMAN and I’m sure I get FAR more respect as a woman than you, you stupid fucking lesbian. WHY? because I look better than most cis women out there." The majority of you disgusting cis lesbians out there make me sick with your misoginistic views. YOU ARE MORE MALE THAN I WILL EVER BE! and a LIFETIME being raised as a male? excuse me since when is 19 years a lifetime, and I was never socialized as male I faced tons of discimination because of my femininity as someone percieved as male. MY LIFE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN YOURS THOUGH, Because I am not miserable enough to tear down a person based on their identity. YOU AREN’t EVEn WORTHY OF MY PENIS, BITCH AND NOT ONLY THAT I WOULDN’t STEP 10 feet near YOUR FILTHY CUNT SO KEEP DREAMING next time one of your lesbian kind hit on me I will tear you bitches down. I appear as a NORMAL heterosexual woman when I’m out with my boyfriend, NO one points I can get married to him whenever I want because I am legally female in the eyes of my country. So when people point and laugh at you and your fuilthy lesbian lover HA! you two are gonna have to fight just to get married. SO ENJOY YOUR LIFE BITCH, AINT NOBODY WANT YOUR FILTHY ASS! ENJoY YOUR RUBBER ERECT PENIS’!

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/4

    you are disgusting. i am a fucking girl and if you screamed because a transwoman walked into the bathroom, i'd fucking punch you in the face

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/image/34722573428

    I’m climbin’ in your spaces, I’m fuckin’ your genders up, tryna to rape you so you better hide your radscums hide your radfems and hide your cisgender only spaces cus they misgendering every body out here."


    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/7


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  38. The above poster asked you four questions which you cannot answer, so you chose to respond to the one fact they stated. You cannot spell or punctuate correctly and your grammar is terrible. The "self-obsession" argument is busted. Unless you are working every day to feed starving kids in impoverished countries, you are self-obsessed too. *Everyone* works to make themselves happier and more comfortable but when trans people do it it's somehow selfish. If we are inconvenient for you, then you are free to fuck off. As far as disability goes, you should do some research and see where your taxes are actually being spent. If you actually have a job, that is. There are entire counties in the US where every single person is on disability for "back pain" or some such nebulous crap. If you are not concerned about that kind of abuse of the system, then the only reason you are focused on the tiny percentage of trans people on disability is because you are a hateful sack of human shit.

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  39. "Oh FFS will you people stop using Iran as proof that SRS is colonizing gays and lesbians?

    No, I won't be silenced because it's true. I'm sorry if this subject brings such discomfort to some people.

    Nothing exists in a complete cultural vacuum. It's a historic fact that there have been periods in time in which sex reassignment surgery has been used to erase gay and lesbian identity. Why would one of the most oppressive governments in the world pay for sex reassignment surgery yet execute homosexuals? According to Ahmadinejad, there are NO HOMOSEXUALS IN IRAN.

    "Although it has some of the strictest laws on sexuality and same-sex relations in the world, Iran also has a reputation for an extremely liberal sex-change operations industry.

    According to the BBC, the Iranian regime recently made sexual reassignment even more accessible by announcing that health insurance companies must cover the full cost of sex-change operations, which can cost upward of $3,000.

    According to the BBC, Iran performs more sex-change operations than any country in the world except for Thailand; the surgery industry has attracted patients from all over the Middle East and as far away as Eastern Europe. Official statistics for 2007 put the number of transsexuals in Iran between 15,000 and 20,000 people, with unofficial estimates suggesting many more -- up to 150,000, the Guardian reports.

    In a country where same-sex relationships are punishable by execution, sex-changing surgeries may mean the difference between life and death.

    Iranian-born filmmaker, Tanaz Eshaghian, who brought attention to Iran’s transgender community in her award-winning 2008 documentary film, “Be Like Others,” illustrates the logic behind the law. In one scene of the film, a Muslim cleric explains how Islam supports sex-change surgery. “An action is allowed unless it states specifically in the Quran that an act is a sin. Why is adultery one of the seven deadly sins? Because it specifically says so in the Quran. Because it does not specifically state that sex change is a sin, therefore, we cannot call it a sin.”

    Yet while the freedom to change sex might come as a relief to some, Eshaghian also draws attention to the pressure felt by gay men and women in Iran to have sexual reassignment surgeries as a means of legitimizing their sexual orientation. As gay individuals, they are committing a crime. As transsexuals, they can exist under Iranian law."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/04/iran-sex-change-operation_n_1568604.html

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  40. Your frenzied copy-and-pasting of the same crazy, pissed-off mtf's rants is borderline retarded behavior. No one believes those ladies are actually coming to kill you just because somebody got elbowed in the breast by an mtf on the dance floor of your crap women's "music" festival. Women are raped and killed all over the world every day by men, but you choose to focus on a handful of transsexuals and suggest that we are particularly murderous. Are you actually hearing yourself? My god, what must it be like to be you?

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  41. I don't like it when lesbians deny and negate the validity of my identity because I expect more from marginalized people who have access to resources and empowerment. It disappoints me. I chalk it up to bad personal boundaries and a lack of psychological differentiation. Like a small child, you literally do not know where you end and another person begins. You cannot imagine that a person is different than you, just like a man who insists lesbianism is a transient state because he doesn't experience homosexual desires himself. Those men and you people are seriously fucked and you need retraining in personal boundaries. You need to ask yourself why you are telling other people who they are. Because most transpeople have done serious soul-searching before transition, they have done the hard work of figuring out who they are. I take responsibility for my life and I have ZERO vested interest in how someone else identifies. Why can't you be as good a person as I am?

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  42. "The above poster asked you four questions which you cannot answer, so you chose to respond to the one fact they stated."

    What specific fact is this person referring to? Is this individual referring to the statement, "Most trans people are feminists"? This certainly is not a fact. It's an opinion, and an opinion not based on reality or a careful analysis of history. If anything, transgender is slowly evolving into an Orwellian nightmare for girls and women on so many levels. I fail to see how the mutilation of healthy female bodies relates to feminism. FTM "transitioning" not only radically alters healthy female breasts, genitals, and reproductive systems, it actually erases female identity.

    If we actually take the time to read the utterly misogynistic and threatening comments that trans activists have directed towards feminists, or any woman they disagree with, it's rather frightening. Then, they have the audacity to say they are feminists. Moreover, if we carefully look at what FTM "transitioning" actually entails, if we are wrong, it does resemble female genital mutilation. We aren't allowed to examine the cultural and social forces that might impact one's decision to "transition".

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  43. SERIOUS SOUL-SEARCHING ....

    "Because most transpeople have done serious soul-searching before transition."

    Is it really "serious soul-searching" or everything these 14, 15, and 16 year old girls hear and see online about "T", breast binders, etc.?

    The fact that more and more people are detransitioning is proof that many people don't do "serious soul-searching".

    It's not so much "soul-searching" as it is promotion of "transitioning" by the transgender community. There are 14 year old girls who are already talking about "T". How do 14 year old girls hear about "T"? Why is a prescription drug that has to be injected simply called "T". I can google "T" and FTM" and get 13,100,000 hits. This is the social promotion of a culturally prescribed cure for something that is subjective in nature to begin with.

    NO SOUL-SEARCHING HERE....TOO BAD SHE GOT HER BREASTS LOPPED OFF..

    Britain's first transsexual doctor is under investigation following complaints that he provided inappropriate treatment to patients wishing to change gender.

    Dr Richard Curtis, who was born Vanda Zadorozny, but had a sex change in 2005, is being investigated by the General Medical Council, after at least three separate complaints.

    The London-based GP is accused of prescribing sex change hormones “to several patients” that were not appropriate and also ignoring restrictions placed on his practice.

    In one case reportedly under investigation by the GMC, the doctors’ regulator, a woman complained she regretted undergoing treatment, which included having a double mastectomy and taking hormones.

    In another case, it was alleged Dr Curtis, 46, prescribed sex change drugs to patients under 18, without the specialist knowledge or skills to do so


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9784545/Dr-Richard-Curtis-transsexual-doctor-faces-investigation.html

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  44. How do you explain all the ftms who transitioned long after their teens, after many years of struggling with their identities? And no, you don't get to answer 'internalised homophobia' or 'because patriarchy'

    Yes, we do get to mention internalized misogyny and/or lesbian phobia because females receive these cultural messages from the time they are born.

    As to FTM “transitioning”, I argue that there is no way to subjectively separate internalized misogyny and/or lesbian phobia from actual “gender dysphoria”. I have always said that if I were certain that (a.), (b.), (c.) and (d.) below were all true, that I would more willing to embrace “transitioning” (surgical removal of both healthy breasts, a life time of testosterone, surgical alteration of female genitals, possible hysterectomy).

    (a.) No one ever lives to regret transitioning.

    (b.) Culture, internalized misogyny, peer pressure play no role whatsoever in one’s decision to “transition”.

    (c.) Prior to hormones or surgery, it’s easy to distinguish transsexual from non transsexual, and the science on this subject is clear and sound. That is, similar to a blood test for cholesterol, it's possible to go into a doctor's office and get a blood test to see if you are really trans, or should be transsexual. Or, in other words, it's something that can be measured and quantified.

    (d.) The only way to treat gender non-conforming individuals, or people who don’t fit neatly into traditional sex roles of masculinity and femininity is through the use of hormones and surgery.

    When pressed and prodded, trans identified people have admitted that people can regret “transitioning”. Also, they finally admitted that culture (everything people see and hear online and from their friends, parental influences, etc.) and peer pressure might play a role in the decision to transition.

    Will future historians view "top surgery" and "bottom surgery" as peculiar forms of female genital mutilation? Because male areolas and nipples are usually larger than female areolas, in "top surgery", both areolas and nipples are literally cut off the female, reshaped down to size, and then sewn back on. Then, two large incisions are made to remove healthy breast tissue. Every now and then a nipple graft doesn't take resulting in a loss of a nipple. Of course, loss of sensation is common. I can't think of anything that so radically alters healthy female breasts than FTM "top surgery" or "chest masculinization." In "bottom surgery" which requires multiple surgeries and a price tag of $50,000 to $100,000, six to eight inches of skin grafts are taken from the arm or other part of the body and essentially sewn onto the female pubic area. There are also health issues related to extending the female urethra.

    Few people actually see what FTM "transitioning" entails. I can't think of anything that so radically alters healthy female breasts, genitals, and reproductive systems than FTM "transitioning". I know they don't want to hear it, but there is no way to subjectively separate internalized misogyny from "gender dysphoria".

    This is "top surgery", or double incision with nipple grafting.

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting)

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  45. Your frenzied copy-and-pasting of the same crazy, pissed-off mtf's rants is borderline retarded behavior. No one believes those ladies are actually coming to kill you just because somebody got elbowed in the breast by an mtf on the dance floor of your crap women's "music" festival.

    NO LADIES WERE MAKING THESE MISOGYNISTIC THREATS. These were males making these sexist and threatening comments towards women. I know males making sexist threats is nothing new, but when it's coming from special "ladies", we are supposed to accept it. By the way, when males make threats toward women, it's not uncommon for them to follow through with the threats. It doesn't happen all the time, but it's more true than not. All we have to do is look at the crime statistics.

    MTFs or "ladies" would NEVER HARM ANYONE. Well, expect for transgender convicted rapist Ronny Darnell's 13 year old victim.

    http://enidnews.com/localnews/x503853299/Convict-wants-Oklahoma-to-pay-part-of-sex-change

    I sure hope girls stay away from these "ladies". Paula Witherspoon and Thomas Lee Benson are trans registered sex offenders.

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Transgender-Woman-Convictions-Irrelevant-to-Citation-149923975.html

    No one believes those ladies are actually coming to kill you just because somebody got elbowed in the breast by an mtf on the dance floor of your crap women's "music" festival.

    THESE "LADIES" HAVE KILLED WOMEN AND/OR RAPED GIRLS AND WOMEN...AND THEY WANT TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR THEIR HORMONES AND SURGERY...

    Sandy Jo Battista (David Megarry), a convicted sex offender who has molested girls, expects tax payers to pay for his feminizing hormones.

    http://pacer.mad.uscourts.gov/dc/cgi-bin/recentops.pl?filename=woodlock/pdf/battista071111.pdf

    Katheena Soneeya (Kenneth Hunt), who is trying to get the State of Massachusetts to pay for hair removal and sex reassignment surgery was convicted of murdering two women.

    http://pacer.mad.uscourts.gov/dc/cgi-bin/recentops.pl?filename=tauro/pdf/soneeya%20v%20spencer%20et%20al%20memo.pdf

    Robert Kosilek (Michelle Lynn Kosilek), then 39, was already transitioning when he killed his wife, Cheryl McCaul, during an argument. He strangled her to death, nearly decapitating her in the Mansfield, Massachusetts home they still shared.

    Then, there is Richard (Sherri) Masbruch who tied two women up and sadistically shocked them with an electrical cord before raping them. Sherri is a "lady" now, but women would be wise to stay away from this "lady".

    THE TRANS COMMUNITY REFUSES TO ADMIT IT, BUT MTFs ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN OTHER MALES AS FAR AS THE CRIME STATISTICS ARE CONCERNED. MALES ARE RESPONSIBILE FOR MORE VIOLENT CRIMES, AND ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS. THIS DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUES THE MALE IDENTIFIES AS TRANSGENDER.

    When males threaten women, women would be wise to take seriously.

    Who is more threatening? Is it a
    5'2 130 lb. woman or a 6' 180 lb. MTF?








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  46. @I don't like it when lesbians deny and negate the validity of my identity because I expect more from marginalized people who have access to resources and empowerment.

    Cut the crap. 1. Lesbians owe you nothing. 2. Women owe you nothing. It is a fluke of politics that there is a T after the LBG. Your idenitity is your little game with yourself nobody has to play along. Get used to it. And sir you are not marginalized.

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  47. I don't like it when lesbians deny and negate the validity of my identity because I expect more from marginalized people who have access to resources and empowerment.

    This individual uses the words and phrases "marginalized people", "lesbian" and "people who have access to resources and empowerment" all in the same sentence. I do admit, however, that it's an impressive sounding sentence. It's like a string of oxymorons all linked together. Am I to assume that lesbians have access to resources and empowerment? I'm not seeing it. Males have access to more power and authority than females, and lesbians are marginalized and oppressed more than heterosexuals.





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  48. Questions:

    If parents constantly refer to a five year old girl as "he" or "him", doesn't this just reinforce the "gender identity disorder"?

    Isn't it sexist on its face to assume that only old boys like playing with building blocks and toy trucks? Or, girls are supposed to wear their hair long and like pretty dresses?


    NO WONDER THESE KIDS HAVE "GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER". GIRLS ARE ALREADY BEING CALLED "HE" OR "HIM" AT AGE FIVE BECAUSE THEY PREFER PLAYING WITH TOY TRUCKS AND BUILDING BLOCKS.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/raising-a-transgender-child/2012/05/12/gIQAjwy7MU_video.html

    This five year old girl didn't like the "girly pink baby dolls, therefore she is now "he". Listen carefully to the video. The mother says, "he already asked about surgery". Why was surgery even mentioned?





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  49. "And sir you are not marginalized. "

    Hilarious. You were trying to insult me by negating my gender identity but you instead got it right. So thanks for that. But by your rationale I *must* be marginalized because I was born with xx chromosomes. And yes, many many lesbians are white and upper class and have access to resources. If you could stop feeling sorry for yourself for one second, you might be able to look around you and see that things like race and class exist and that you, most likely, benefit immensely from the unequal, stratified power structure. Nobody is buying your bullshit that lesbians are the most oppressed people in the world. That's a fucking smokescreen that you hide your privilege behind hoping that screaming "lesbian" will keep people from seeing all the privilege you do have. Do you live at the garbage dump on the edge of a city, eating rotten food and sifting through toxic waste to find things to sell? Do people follow you around inside stores thinking that you'll steal something because you are not white? Or do you blame the patriarchy for the fact that you can't afford a brand new Subaru and a house like the other wealthy white lesbians. How will you ever get to that Dinah Shore Classic on your measly $40,000 a year? My God! I'm so sorry for your deprivation! It's so unfair that Oberlin is making you pay them back for the fancy education. That's probably because of homophobia too.

    I don't think women or lesbians owe me anything as a group. I never said anything like that. What I was trying to say is that I get disappointed when lesbians or gay haters of transsexuals don't make the connection between their oppression and the oppression they are themselves perpetuating. You are stooges and pawns acting in the best interest of the patriarchy by dividing a community that can be stronger. I mean, I have enough friends, so I don't need you to like or accept me or even call me sir. But it's depressing to realize how stupid and mentally lazy some people are.

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  50. "And yes, many many lesbians are white and upper class and have access to resources."

    So, it's just not "many lesbians", but "many many lesbians" who are white and upper class with all sorts of resources.

    First of all, why does this person assume that all lesbians are white much less upper class. Second, because they are women, lesbians simply do not have the financial resources that men have. To state that, "many many lesbians are white and upper class and have access to resources" flies in the face of common sense and actual statistics. I can only think of a couple of lesbians who are white and upper class. I guess it all depends on how we define upper class, but I'm sure compared to Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, they look like paupers. PLEASE SHOW ME ONE LESBIAN WHO HAS MUCH MONEY AS BILL GATES. SHOW ME ANY WOMAN WHO HAS AS MUCH MONEY AS WARREN BUFFET.

    "Do you live at the garbage dump on the edge of a city, eating rotten food and sifting through toxic waste to find things to sell? "

    What exactly is this person trying to say? It's rather confusing. I think we can all agree that people in western industrialized countries have a high standard of living than poor people in developing countries. At least middle class people. Why is there such an enormous imbalance of wealth, power, and resources? It's not very complicated, and it's been going on for centuries. Large global corporations extract the resources from poor developing countries and essentially leave them with nothing. Even in developing countries, we are seeing a widening of the gap between the rich and poor. Who controls the world's largest corporations? By and large, it's men. Garbage dumps are caused by excess greed, consumerism, lack of recycling, poor land use issues, etc. People in developing countries often resort to sifting through the huge piles of garbage and toxic wastes created consumers in western countries.

    Wealth: Women represent 40% of the world’s labor force but hold just 1% of the world’s wealth.

    Wages: Salaried women workers earn 62 cents for every $1 that men earn in Germany, 64 cents in India and about 80 cents in Mexico and Egypt. Women entrepreneurs fare far worse, earning 34 cents for every $1 men earn in Ethiopia and just 12 cents in Bangladesh relative to every $1 for men.

    World Development Bank

    http://econ.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTDEC/EXTRESEARCH/EXTWDRS/EXTWDR2012/0,,menuPK:7778074~pagePK:7778278~piPK:7778320~theSitePK:7778063~contentMDK:22851055,00.html

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  51. "FTMs report a noticeable increase in human capital when they transformed from women into men. Many respondents made clear distinctions of male privilege in the workplace according to Schilt; “once they become “just on the guys,” that men succeed in the workplace at higher rates than women because of gender stereotypes that privilege masculinity, not because they have greater skill or ability.” For example, Schilt describes a situation with an FTM Susan turned Thomas. Susan was an attorney that was fired and deemed incompetent, but then the “new guy” Thomas that was brought on was commended as “delightful.” Little do they know that Susan and Thomas were the same person with the same abilities and qualifications."

    http://www.chicagonow.com/ignorance-is-bliss/2012/04/ftms-a-unique-perspective-of-womens-oppression-and-mens-privilege-in-the-workplace/

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  52. Nobody is buying your bullshit that lesbians are the most oppressed people in the world.

    I never said that lesbians are the most oppressed people in the world. I said, "Males have access to more power and authority than females, and lesbians are marginalized and oppressed more than heterosexuals." This is true.


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  53. "You are stooges and pawns acting in the best interest of the patriarchy by dividing a community that can be stronger."

    "Transitioning" children who don't fit neatly into sex based gender roles, especially ones who might grow up to be butch lesbians is patriarchy's wet dream.

    "I would much rather see my daughter grow up to be a trans man and receive the respect that comes from being a man, rather than be steered into becoming a carpet muncher and someone who gets absolutely no respect in our society."

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/camps-influencing-our-impressionable.html

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  54. "Do you live at the garbage dump on the edge of a city, eating rotten food and sifting through toxic waste to find things to sell."

    It's horrific that human beings actually live this way. Women don't control the large global corporations that are responsible for the world's glaring inequality.

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  55. "If you could stop feeling sorry for yourself for one second, you might be able to look around you and see that things like race and class exist and that you, most likely, benefit immensely from the unequal, stratified power structure."

    Race and class exists, but sexism doesn't exist even though the vast majority of the world's poor are female.

    "And sir you are not marginalized. "

    Hilarious. You were trying to insult me by negating my gender identity but you instead got it right. So thanks for that..


    Sir, if you were born female, you can never completely be male. However, by virtue of passing as male, there is a good chance that you will have some advantages over females who don't surgically and chemically alter their bodies to appear male.

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  56. Some points you continue to ignore or overlook:

    Not everyone who talks about transitioning will actually do so. Talk is cheap. Fully transitioning is not, nor is it easy. Many will realise they aren't trans, or decide they're genderqueer, or something else.

    You don't have to take T or have any surgery to transition socially. Most trans people do because they need to feel as physically male as possible, and they want to be read as male. Getting documents changed is almost impossible in some cases without some degree of SRS, and not passing can be uncomfortable/dangerous depending on how accepting the local community is. Going by the example here, failing to pass is not an option.

    The basic goal of transitioning is to make the individual comfortable in their body. In the UK access to T or SRS rarely commences before the age of 18. Puberty blockers are sometimes given to ease the process, when the individual is below that age and is terrified of developing the wrong sexual characteristics. If taken, the need for later surgery is greatly reduced.

    SRS is not female genital mutiliation, SRS aims as much as possible to retain sexual function. The genitals may be reshaped, but the clitoris remains intact. In FGM, function is permanently removed. SRS is performed on consenting adults. FGM is forced on non-consenting children. Do not conflate the two, it's a dishonest argument.

    Transitioning is no more unnatural that transplant surgery, prosthetic limbs, etc. Many people have to take lifelong medication, some of which can have far worse side effects than testosterone.

    You can stop taking T. Some effects will remain, some will not. Being hairier than ther average, having a deeper voice than the average, will not kill you.

    Breasts are not sacred objects. There are non-male identified people who have top surgery. There are male-identified people who don't. If a person has no use for, or desire for their breasts to be there, and wishes to have them removed, that is their business and their business alone.

    Gendertrender and Pretendbian and many other radical feminist hangouts are full of vile insults towards trans people, up to and including desire for trans people to die. Don't claim the moral high ground when you don't have it. Bot sides use such language. Neither side is right to do so.

    The fact the the same tired anti-trans articles and worn-out antif-trans phrases are brought up here over and over makes it obvious you don't have any other ammunition.

    Some people transition in later life.

    The trans people you are talking about are real humans. They have lives and minds and can decide for themselves what they need to make themselves comfortable and happy. They have thought about all the dangers, they have heard about all the hazards. No suggested that transition is an easy solution. It's not. We know that. We're not the fools you'd like us to be. Go and campaign agaist somebody else. We're tired of your hate.

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  57. Transitioning is no more unnatural that transplant surgery, prosthetic limbs, etc.

    Well, I hate to disagree, but there is an enormous difference between elective plastic surgery on one's healthy breasts and genitals and something like a heart or liver transplant. There are numerous scientific lab tests that diagnose heart or liver disease. IT IS QUANTIFIABLE WHEREAS "GENDER DYSPHORIA" IS A PSYCIATRIC DIAGNOSIS. IN ESSENCE, IT'S ALL IN THE MIND, AND THEREFORE AT LEAST PARTLY CULTURALLY BASED. PHYSICIANS DON'T DO A HEART OR LIVER TRANSPLANT BECAUSE OF A PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSIS.

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  58. "Breasts are not sacred objects. There are non-male identified people who have top surgery. There are male-identified people who don't. If a person has no use for, or desire for their breasts to be there, and wishes to have them removed, that is their business and their business alone."

    In this post, I will restrict my comments to females who do not carry the BRACA gene or have a strong history of breast cancer. Only a fraction of breast cancers result from an inherited gene mutation. I will focus on healthy female anatomy.

    Who exactly are non-male identified people and male-identified people? What exactly is "top surgery". If this person firmly believes that there are no ethical issues involved in what amounts to elective mastectomies on females, then he or she should at least call it what it is. THE TRANS COMMUNITY INTENTIONALLY HIDES WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO FEMALE ANATOMY BEHIND WORDS SUCH AS "TOP SURGERY" OR "TRANSITIONING". They can't say double mastectomy on healthy female breasts.

    ELECTIVE MASTECTOMIES WITH THE SURGICAL TRIMMING DOWN OF NIPPLES AND AREOLAS IS A GOOD THING....

    CUT THE NIPPLES AND AREOLAS OFF THE BODY, DO THE MASTECTOMY, THEN SEW THE WHITTLED DOWN NIPPLES BACK ON....HOPE THAT THE NIPPLE GRAFT TAKES...loss of sensation is common...if a nipple falls off...too bad..

    "Right, so you all know I lost a nipple, areola and all. It is called necrosis - there was a disruption in the blood supply to that tissue and literally died and “sloffed” off. Underneath is open tissue and blood vessels, and slowly but surely new skin (dark pink at first, but eventually lighter-colored, upper layers will form too) is growing in. Eventually I will have a circle of skin with a scar around it where the nipple would be.

    I’m going to post pictures as I talk about some procedures, etc., so I’m going to do a jump here, in case anyone doesn’t want to look at boobs or nasty nipples."


    http://xxboy.tumblr.com/post/1094189003/options-for-nipple-reconstruction-after-nipple-loss

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  59. "Breasts are not sacred objects. There are non-male identified people who have top surgery. There are male-identified people who don't. If a person has no use for, or desire for their breasts to be there, and wishes to have them removed, that is their business and their business alone."

    "I lost all sensation in both nipples for the first 10 or so weeks of being post op. I am gradually getting sensation, but it is extreme sensation only. Its only when I apply serious pressure that I actually feel anything and the sensation I do get is pain. Its one of those things that you have to deal with when it comes to surgery. It is one of those very small downsides that is outweighed by the upsides."

    "Initially I was numb from about three inches below my collar bones to an inch below the incision, it was kinda like being at the dentist when they numb your mouth and you know you’re touching it but you just can’t feel it! Gradually over the last three years I would say 95% of the sensation in my whole chest has returned. After about 18months my nipples went hard in the cold for the first time, it was really funny and I probably looked like a fool standing in the street laughing at my own chest but being able to feel different pressures and temperatures was really exciting. I have not regained any ‘erogenous’ sensation unfortunately – those special tingling feelings you get never came back. However it does feel like I have gained a large area of ‘extra sensitive skin’ due in part to the presence of masses of scar tissue- so my chest is hyper responsive to touch and pain."

    http://cnlester.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-top-surgery-answers/

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  60. "If a person has no use for, or desire for their breasts to be there, and wishes to have them removed, that is their business and their business alone."

    What they forget to tell people is that it's possible to regret getting your breasts lopped off, or not like how they look after they are removed...

    ...it's not like you can just sew them back on...

    “The surgery seemed to have gone well until a week later, when he removed the bandages to take out the drains. Then I saw the scars were large and very uneven, and my nipples still looked female. He seemed perplexed about why “they” had not stitched the drain in on one side. (He never told me anyone else would be involved in the surgery, and denied that anyone was afterward.) He assured me the scars would fade to nothing and my nipples would flatten out on their own in a few months, then he taped my wounds (insufficiently), and sent me home a few days later… …without a prescription for antibiotics. By the time my designated driver took me home (only a few hours later), my wounds were aching and oozing, and I had to go to the emergency care clinic because they had become infected. After a little internet research, I discovered Dr. Leis has a long record of infections due to his unwillingness to prescribe preventative antibiotics after surgery. (As for the stipulation that he does not wear gloves, I can’t comment, because I don’t know.) When I went back for a follow-up appointment about a month later, he assured me my result was “beautiful” and healing perfectly, despite the scars becoming red, raised, and painful, and the nipples not flattening a bit. He refused to listen to any of my complaints or questions, dismissing me as a perfectionist. (For the record, I wasn’t expecting perfection, but even to my untrained eye I looked much worse afterwards than before.) At my time of writing this, it has been about half a year, and nothing has changed since that first month. My scars are still an angry red – very obvious against my white skin – and they cause me frequent stabbing pains. My nipples still protrude and look female. I cannot go shirtless in public due to shame and self-hatred. The few times I tried, people avoided me out of disgust, and several called me out as a transsexual because the scars made it so obvious what used to be there. I refuse to ever take my shirt off in public again until (or should I say if) I can get my scars revised, which so far is not working at all. I have frequently cried myself to sleep over my mutilated chest, as well as the death of my lifelong dream of finally being able to go shirtless without shame. I am trying to file a lawsuit against Dr. Leisfor his incompetence and his dishonesty, in order to earn money to pay for my costly revisions as well as to put a much-needed dent in his undeserved good public reputation. If any of you who read this have had a similar nightmarish experience with this surgeon and are willing to provide evidence for my case, please contact me at the email address specified below (those underscores are supposed to be there; they are not typos) and put “Dr. Leis” in the subject line. It will be much appreciated. “s_s_s_1_9_8_4@yahoo.com
    Email: s_s_s_1_9_8_4@yahoo.com
    Date added: Jul 28, 2011

    http://www.susans.org/Sex_Reassignment_Surgery/FTM_Surgeons/6924.html

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  61. "SRS is not female genital mutiliation, SRS aims as much as possible to retain sexual function."

    ...notice how they say "aims as much as possible to retain sexual function"...

    As to whether or not FTM "transitioning" is female genital mutilation, future historians will be the judge of this. THIS IS THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY'S GIFT TO THE FEMALE SEX. THIS IS HOW THEY WILL BE JUDGED FOR BETTER OR WORSE. There is a reason why many FTMs opt out of "bottom surgery". It often requires multiple surgeries and is expensive. For a phalloplasty, skin grafts have to be taken from some part of the female body. Are we to believe that taking about eight inches of skin grafts from the thigh, arm, or wherever and sewing them onto the female pubic area, and then lengthening the urethra doesn't come with risks? These are delicate areas the surgeon is taking a scalpel to.

    There are basically two procedures: metaidoiplasty (clitoral release) and phalloplasty. Testosterone will enlarge the clitoris about an inch or two, perhaps three inches at the most. In a metoidioplasty the clitoral hood is lifted and the suspensory ligament of the clitoris is detached from the pubic bone, allowing the clitoris to extend out further. It's really not adequate for penetration. An actual phalloplasty requires skin grafts and can't become erect without a pump.

    Risks/complications of metaidoioplasty and phalloplasty

    Possible complications specific to metaidoioplasty without urethral
    lengthening include:

    • dissatisfaction with the length of the penis (shorter than expected)
    • change in sensation: loss of sensation, persistent tenderness, or hypersensitivity
    • temporary or permanent narrowing of the vaginal opening, making
    penetration difficult
    • change in urine spray, resulting in splashing of the labia and vaginal skin

    Possible complications specific to urethral lengthening include:

    • urethral fistula: opening between the urethra and the skin, leading to leakage of urine (very common: occurs in around 45% of
    phalloplasties)
    • partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new urethra
    • narrowing or closure of the new urethra
    • hair growth in the urethra (from hair-bearing tissue used as urethral
    lining)

    Phalloplasty includes all the possible complications of urethral
    lengthening as well as possible:

    • partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new penis
    • numbness or hypersensitivity of the skin of the penis
    • decreased sexual sensation, possibly with decreased ability to have orgasm
    • compromised sensation and/or function of the hand and wrist of the donor arm (approximately 5% of patients need a long period of
    physiotherapy to recover fully)
    • dissatisfaction with the size or shape of the penis
    • excessive scarring in the donor sites (arm/thigh)


    http://transhealth.vch.ca/resources/library/tcpdocs/consumer/surgery-FTM.pdf

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  62. "Puberty blockers are sometimes given to ease the process, when the individual is below that age and is terrified of developing the wrong sexual characteristics. If taken, the need for later surgery is greatly reduced."

    "If taken, the need for later surgery is greatly reduced..."

    This is because the child is essentially de-sexed by not being allowed to undergo a normal part of human development, adolescence, then they are given cross gender hormones. This is why there is less healthy tissue for the surgeon to remove later. If cross gender hormones are given right after the puberty suppressing drugs, fertility can be compromised. This is the de-sexing of children. THESE CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY TO UDNERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEM. I know this might sounds crass and crude, but people have been de-sexing domestic and farm animals for centuries. How else can be explain this? Human children are not allowed to experience adolescent development.

    Puberty suppressing drugs for what basically amounts to a psychiatric diagnosis in children is so Orwellian that I really can't adequately describe how frightening it is.

    ON SECOND THOUGHT, PERHAPS ALL TEENAGERS SHOULD BE ON PUBERTY SUPPRESSING DRUGS. THIS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I knew a woman with a teenage daughter. This girl was so sweet when she was a little girl, but turned into a rebellious, defiant, raging hellion once she started puberty. Indeed, the poor mother was popping Prozac just to deal with it all. She would tell me unbelievable things this teenage girl would do. The girl was such a good student in grammar school, but once the hormones kicked in, she was an entirely different person. She ran away at age sixteen and got pregnant. Boys start to notice girls when they develop sexually. Now, all of this could have been avoided if the girl never started adolescence. Adolescence does crazy things to all children. Therefore, let's make life much better for all parents by preventing children from developing sexually. It was the puberty that caused the changes in her daughter. This poor mother would cry and wail because her precious little girl was so rebellious. Keep them on puberty suppressing drugs until they are eighteen, then the parents can legally kick them out of the house. If parents can intentionally delay puberty because of one psychiatric diagnosis namely "gender identity disorder", or whatever, then why can't parents stop puberty because of rebellious teenager disorder, or whatever the shrinks call it.


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  63. "Women don't control the large global corporations that are responsible for the world's glaring inequality."

    So you have no responsibility for them? How about your consumerism? I cannot stand any more white, middle or upper middle class women who think they can shirk responsibility for the culture they support and uphold. You get to blame patriarchy all day and drive around in your nice car and live in your nice, safe neighborhood. I don't feel sorry for white lesbians one fucking bit. Your whole shit show is a farce and nobody buys it. You don't *have* community with poor people of color and black lesbians living in slums. You speak for them because you feel entitled to. When the revolution comes, they're gonna shoot your ass first.

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  64. Yep. Same lame, worn-out arguments trotted out again, same anti-trans sentiments, same refusal to address any of the actual points made, same dismissal of the lives and experiences of trans people - who know a thousand times better than you what being trans is. Why am I not surprised?

    You people are tiresome idiots.

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  65. "Women don't control the large global corporations that are responsible for the world's glaring inequality."

    This is true.

    "So you have no responsibility for them? How about your consumerism?"

    HOW ABOUT THIS PERSON'S CONSUMERISM?

    "TRANSITIONING"(PLASTIC SURGERY, A LIFE TIME OF CROSS GENDER HORMONES, PUBERTY SUPPRESSING DRUGS FOR CHILDREN, BREAST BINDERS, PACKERS, STP DEVICES, ETC.) INVOLVES A **IT LOAD OF CONSUMERISM. INDEED, IT'S A LIFE TIME OF CONSUMERISM. HEALTH CARE, PARTICULARLY IN THE U.S. IS BIG BUCKS. I'M TALKING ABOUT HELLA BIG BUCKS. IT'S A FACT THAT BIG PHARMA HAS ABOUT AS MANY LOBBYIST AS THE TOBACCO COMPANIES AND THE OIL COMPANIES. I bet these enlightened people never knew that.

    Published on Apr 2, 2013


    Big Pharma spent $2.6 billion lobbying Congress between 1998 and 2012. They spent more on lobbying than the next two biggest spending industries -- defense and oil -- combined.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHuFW1YzFRY

    GOOD VIDEO ON BIG PHARMA....

    As to my personal consumerism, I have an incredibly low carbon footprint. I walk or bicycle almost everywhere and I'm very aware of ways to reduce my energy use. Does this person know what his or her own carbon footprint is, or do they even know what carbon footprint means? Does he or she fully understand climate change? Also, I'm probably more environmentally aware than a lot of transgender people.

    Brow beating women by saying, "How about your consumerism" while at the same time starting children out on puberty suppressing drugs, and the possibility of a life time of handing over their money to Big Pharma, plastic surgeons, etc. There is hella money in plastic surgery too.

    Can we say hypocrites...

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  66. "Women don't control the large global corporations that are responsible for the world's glaring inequality."

    This is true.

    Do women control the oil and gas companies? THE ANSWER IS NO. Does this individual know anything about climate change? After all, climate change not only will greatly impact the entire environment, it will most likely displace literally millions of poor and indigenous people throughout the world in addition to increasing droughts, food shortages, water shortages, and famine.

    "I cannot stand any more white, middle or upper middle class women who think they can shirk responsibility for the culture they support and uphold...You don't *have* community with poor people of color and black lesbians living in slums. You speak for them because you feel entitled to. When the revolution comes, they're gonna shoot your ass first.

    WTF ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?

    When the revolution comes, because women have so much money, particularly filthy rich lesbians, they will be shot first....

    THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY DERANGED...THEY ARE DANGEROUS...

    Women represent 40% of the world’s labor force but hold just 1% of the world’s wealth.

    Do women control the world's major financial institutions? The answer is NO. Yes, women in developing countries have more opportunity and there are a handful of women executives, BUT WOMEN DO NOT CONTROL ALL THE MAJOR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS. The global financial melt down is NOT because of women. It all boils down to greed, and the greedy in this case are by and large males who control most of the world's wealth.

    Anyone who would actually blame the financial melt down and the rapacious, heartless gutting of the middle class on women is truly dangerous and misinformed.

    POOR PEOPLE OF COLOR AND MILLIONS OF INDEGENOUS PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE KNOW FULL WELL THAT WOMEN AREN'T MAKING THE DECISIONS...THEY AREN'T THAT NAIVE..




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  67. The fact the the same tired anti-trans articles and worn-out antif-trans phrases are brought up here over and over makes it obvious you don't have any other ammunition.

    Ever so slowly women are starting to wake from their slumber. Despite the fact that the trans thought police work 12/7 to silence women, feminist voices continue to emerge from the wilderness. We won't be silenced forever.

    THIS ARTICLE IS RECENT (June 7-9, 2013) AND IT'S NOT FROM A SO-CALLED RAD-FEM OR FROM GENDERTRENDER. It's not about transgender children per se, but it's very insightful, and it covers subjects the trans community would rather people not even address or acknowledge.

    Transcending the Norms of Gender,
    The Left Hand of Darkness by JULIAN VIGO

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/07/the-left-hand-of-darkness/print

    Simply brilliant work.... I hope she isn't savaged and threatened like UK feminist Suzanne Moore..

    This is also a must see video from a very intelligent young woman.

    May 2013

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ot8cBm0YmXo



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  68. "The fact the the same tired anti-trans articles and worn-out antif-trans phrases are brought up here over and over makes it obvious you don't have any other ammunition."

    "I cannot stand any more white, middle or upper middle class women who think they can shirk responsibility for the culture they support and uphold...You don't *have* community with poor people of color and black lesbians living in slums. You speak for them because you feel entitled to. When the revolution comes, they're gonna shoot your ass first."

    This link is from the website The Crimes of Colonialism ...

    Does Gender Dysphoria need to be ‘Cured’?

    http://crimesofcolonialism.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/does-sex-change-surgery-cure-dysphoria/

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  69. Julian Vigo's article has already been shot down in flames:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/11/these-are-not-the-radicals-youre-looking-for/

    My point still stands. Same lame out of date, biased anti-trans sentiments being trotted out over and over. How about you listen to trans people's actual lived experiences in their actual real lives, instead of the made-up bogeymen in your heads? You might learn something.

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  70. The Vigo article has been sent and read by so many people its buzzing. Personally I know it will be required reading in several courses next semester

    The other is not a take down. It pretty much shoots itself in the foot because it uses every trope and lie. And once those are exposed it looks absurd. Yes real intellectual rigor-- please pity me bawaaa, bawaaa, bawaaa, you bitches, I am man and can lie and make up crap and you better believe me because the whole Trans movement is based in bullshit that we throw out. Not exactly a well reasoned or critical. But a stunning example of T bullshit that I might also use. Do you have concept of how stupid you come off--delusional and dumb. Bawaaaa. Live experience for M2T--got a hard on in the dress, women better bow down and role play with me. Sure, let's make a date dude, 2nd day of never, at 2pm.

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  71. Have you any idea how foolish you sound, with your pathetic mockery and bullshit about 'M2T'? How about you listen to some actual trans people living their actual lives, instead of the radfem party line?

    Of course not, because then you'd have to accept trans people as real actual human beings with the right to determine their own lives, which have nothing to do with men getting 'hard-ons in a dress'. You are a fucking disgusting person.

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  72. Despite the fact that the trans thought police work 12/7 to silence women, feminist voices continue to emerge from the wilderness.

    Sorry for the typo, but it was very late at night and I was tired and about to fall asleep at my laptop. I should have typed 24/7.

    Breasts are not sacred objects.

    I believe that women's bodies are sacred. For countless centuries, various cultures have left their mark on female bodies.

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  73. @ Have you any idea how foolish you sound, with your pathetic mockery.
    And exactly should the mockery not be pathetic when some guys are all gussied up blowing themselves air kiss to get off? Enough research confirms what I am asserting about 80% of MT2 and against the science all you guys have are ad homenim arguments—the researcher was old, or fat, or lived in a yellow house—sure whatever. Do what you want your body but don’t for a second imagine that women have to play along. You really think you can just throw out bullshit and women will accept it—right 1. A female brain, trapped in a male body, a birth defect—sure look at that hard on, that bad boy is humming a different tune. Women don’t get off from our clothing. 2. In terrible danger of violence, (or the suicide threat, so tiresome and predictable) oops made a few too many violent threats against women to use that 3. Cry a river, you said I don’t exist. No, pay attention, you exists but I am not playing in your fantasy. It is yours, play it alone. And you will be playing it alone because, really it does not exactly make someone long term partner material.

    The point is I and other women don’t have to honor your delusion, your feelings or your beliefs’. They are yours. And there is nothing you can do about that. Can’t shame me, can’t silence me, you don’t even know enough words to name call. Because you make one faulty supposition—that I care or if you keep spewing shit I might believe you. I won’t. And I will make sure as many people as possible know what this is all about.

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  74. "The trans people you are talking about are real humans

    I never said that trans people are not real humans. Trans identified individuals are human beings, but it's not illegal to question why 14year old girls are already talking about "T". A person would have to be either incredibly naïve or be very good at lying to state that the transgender community isn't responsible for a great deal of promoting of "transitioning". It's not illegal to question the cultural or social forces that might impact one's decision to "transition". Moreover, the misogynistic threats against feminists that many members of the transgender community have made are further proof that transgender is slowly evolving into an Orwellian nightmare for girls and women on multiple levels. On one hand we have seen MTFs with intact male genitalia expecting and actually gaining access to women's restrooms, locker rooms, etc. Twenty years ago, Colleen Francis would have just been kicked out of the women's locker room or arrested. The fact that a 45 year old, ex-military, heterosexual male was able to expose his penis to a 17 year old high school girl without being arrested or reprimanded is proof of how transgender has run rough shod over women's rights. Then, when we look at actual females, particularly girls, we see 14 and 15 year old girls making youtube videos of how they can't wait to go on "T". Twenty years ago, "top surgery" was rare, and few even heard of the word. The trans trend and everything that has come along with it is evolving into a strange and disturbing assault on women. I've always argued that transgender is just one part of the backlash against feminism. "Top surgery" occurs in the absence of feminism.

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  75. What Dirt posts isn't questioning or debating, it's just biased scaremongering - she's already decided we're all delusional 'girls',. or rapists 'appropriating women's bodies' (fucking nonsense!).

    There are more young transitioners because there is more information out there, so that trans people don't have to spend years wondering what the hell is wrong with them. And do you honestly suppose trans people don't spend a long time thinking about what their gender is, what it means, why they are the way they are? That they don't wish they wren't trans?

    Like I said before (and no one bothered to notice), a lot of the kids who talk about being trans will not actually fully transition. In fact, far from being encouraged, most will at some point be told 'don't do it unless you really cannot live in your assigned at birth gender', because it's not an easy option.

    No one said this shit was easy. Yes, you can delay transition till post-puberty and adulthood, but what if you still feel exactly the same afterwards? You've lost the opportunity to avoid having to undergo top surgery (if you're FAAB) since you've now developed breasts If you're MAAB, you now have unwanted facial and body hair, adeep voice, and other characteristics that are much harder to be rid of if you then have to transition.

    You seriously think the trans community hasn't wrestled with this delemma, many times? You think we don't worry about this stuff?

    No one is being forced to transition. We do it because we must, to be able to live a full and useful life. And don't kid yourself that radfems don't make threats/ said vile and disgusting against trans people. Most trans people just want to get on with their lives unmolested, but we aren';t allowed to even exist without being dehumanized.In some place transgender folk can be legally refused jobs, housing, medical care, just for being trans. Calling us delusional, calling us traps and rapists and everything else that's been said against us in these posts and elsewhere, adds to that climate of discrimination. It legitimises hate and makes it easier to hurt and kill us with impunity.

    You want to talk about the problems that do exist in the wider trans community? Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee. Stop assuming all trans men are violent misogynists who only transition to gain male privilege. Then we can talk.

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  76. "Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee."

    These are biological males and they need to stay out of the women's restroom and out of women's lockers. IT'S A FACT THAT THERE ARE TRANSGENDER REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS. All the crime statistics show that there are far more male registered sex offenders than female sex offenders. I know the transgender community doesn't want to hear this, but this doesn't change just because the man wears a skirt.

    The instances of male voyeurs are really too numerous to mention, but I will list a few recent ones.

    May 14, 2013

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-videotape-women-in-restroom-20130514,0,7242301.story

    "A 33-year-old Palmdale man was charged with disguising himself as a woman so he could secretly shoot videos inside a women's bathroom, authorities said Tuesday night.

    Jason Pomare allegedly wore women's clothing, including a bra and wig, and then hid the camera in a paper bag to shoot videos of women inside a department store bathroom, authorities said.

    A deputy responding to a call from security personnel Saturday at the Antelope Valley Mall found Pomare "wearing a wig and dressed as a woman," Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officials said in a statement.

    Pomare is suspected of sneaking into the bathroom at Macy's Department Store.

    "He then secretly videotaped women while they were using the restroom," the department said.

    On Tuesday, prosecutors charged Pomare with six counts of using a concealed camera for purposes of sexual gratification, according to department officials."

    Paula Witherspoon is a registered sex offender and he has been caught using women's restrooms. In 1990 Witherspoon was sentenced to 16 years in prison after being convicted of sexual assault of a child, a 14-year-old girl, and to an additional six years in prison for indecency with a child involving sexual contact, this time with a 15-year-old girl. Google his name. Take note that he is the man in the dress and dark red lipstick. Thomas Lee Benson is another trans/cross dresser registered sex offender who was caught using a women's locker rooms.

    http://www.kgw.com/news/Flyers-warn-of-sex-offender-lurking-near-pools-150049735.html

    "MILWAUKIE -- Police are crediting a Portland man for helping to capture a registered sex offender who dressed as a woman and slipped into the girl's dressing room at a swim park last week. "

    http://www.oregonlive.com/milwaukie/index.ssf/2011/07/post_9.html

    I don't think biological males who identify as transgender and/or who cross dress are any more predatory than other males, but this is what the transgender community refuses to admit. MALES ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE REGSITERED SEX OFFENDERS THAN FEMALES, AND THIS DOESN'T CHANGE BECAUSE HE WEARS A DRESS OR SAYS HE "FEELS LIKE A WOMAN INSDIE".

    April 18, 2013

    "Ronny Darnell, imprisoned in 2005 for raping a 13-year-old girl, has repeatedly asked for sex-reassignment surgery, The (Oklahoma City) Oklahoman reported Thursday.

    Referring to himself as a female in federal court documents, Darnell wrote in his filing, "Ms. Ronny Darnell has made a pact with herself that if at age 45 she had not achieved her goal of getting back on hormone therapy, she would consider her life hopeless and meaningless ... In the absence of becoming a female, she would not continue living as a male."



    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/04/18/Oklahoma-inmate-demands-sex-change-threatens-suicide/UPI-32561366308658/#ixzz2WF6PoilC

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  77. "Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee."

    THERE IS NO REASON WHY A BIOLOGICAL MALE CAN'T USE THE MEN'S RESTROOM. Why can't he just use the men's restroom? PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION. After all, a urinal is more suited to the male anatomy.

    When one in six women have been victims of rape or sexual assault, seeing a strange man in the women's restroom is bound to make many women uncomfortable.

    by KOMO 4 Staff
    Updated 08:27 p.m., Friday, March 16, 2012

    EVERETT, Wash. – A man wearing a bra and wig was arrested Friday after he was spotted in a women’s bathroom at Everett Community College, police said.
    Officers responded to the scene at about 1:30 p.m. after a college staff member said she saw the man go into the women’s rest room and alerted security personnel.
    An investigation found that the suspect had gone into the rest room while two women were inside, according to a police report. The women were later interviewed and said they had no idea that the man was there.

    When police interviewed the man, he claimed that he had gone into the bathroom to use the facilities.
    But the investigating officer noted that the man was wearing a wig and bra. A search also turned up a pair of woman’s panties in his front pocket, according to the police report. The man, later identified as Taylor J. Buehler, 18, of Lake Stevens, was placed under arrest. He admitted to officers that he was the suspect in an earlier voyeurism incident at Everett Community College on Monday, police said.

    In the earlier incident, he said he took a shower in the girls’ locker room for sexual gratification, acccording to the police report.”

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Man-in-bra-and-wig-found-in-women-s-3414089.php


    Man in women's clothes charged with 3 count sexual indecency with a child North Little Rock Police arrested 39 year old Scotty Vest for sexual indecency outside a women's bathroom, near a playground at Burns Park. Vest was arrested Monday after police say he exposed himself and masturbated in front of three children, two are 11 and one is 12, while trying to lure them inside the bathroom.

    http://www.cwarkansas.com/mostpopular/story/Update-Friends-of-man-arrested-for-sexual/ehozQqRzrEmKVIfjZgGHLQ.cspx

    “Richard Rendler, 60, of San Jose, a registered sex offender, found that out on Friday in Campbell, when he was arrested at the PruneYard Shopping Center on misdemeanor loitering charges. Campbell Police Sgt. Dave Carmichael said Rendler was arrested after having been caught in the womens’ restroom of an unnamed store for “several minutes.”
    Police were tipped off to Rendler’s whereabouts shortly before noon on Friday, when a witness called authorities to say a man was getting out of his car wearing fake breasts and a wig and carrying a purse. The witness saw the man near a bank and thought it was a little “weird” to see a man wearing what seemed to be a disguise, Carmichael said.”

    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_11558044

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  78. "Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee."

    FACT: BIOLOGICAL MALES WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDER, OR SAY THEY "FEEL LIKE WOMEN INSIDE" HAVE MOLESTED CHILDREN AND MURDERED WOMEN. As far as crime is concerned, they aren't that much different than other males. I know the transgender community doesn't want to hear this, but it's the truth.

    Transgender Richard (Sherri) Masbruch who the State of California placed in a women’s prison tied two women up and sadistically shocked them with an electrical cord before raping them. Warning, the court records are very graphic!

    http://law.justia.com/cases/california/cal4th/13/1001.html

    http://prisonmovement.wordpress.com/2012/08/08/update-on-richardsherri-masbruch/

    Sandy Jo Battista (born David Megarry) child molester expects tax payers to pay for female hormones.

    http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2011/05/battista-v-clar.php

    Transgender Kenneth Hunt (KATHEENA SONEEYA) wants the state of Massachusetts to pay for female hormones and sex change. He is convicted of murdering two women.

    http://pacer.mad.uscourts.gov/dc/cgi-bin/recentops.pl?filename=tauro/pdf/soneeya%20v%20spencer%20et%20al%20memo.pdf

    Transgender Michelle Kosilek (Robert Kosilek) expects taxpayers to pay for sex reassignment surgery and hormones. Robert was convicted of murdering his wife.

    http://pacer.mad.uscourts.gov/dc/cgi-bin/recentops.pl?filename=wolf/pdf/kosilek%20eighth%20amendment%20decision.pdf

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  79. "Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee."

    Attention Women,

    Stop automatically assuming a strange biological male wants to rape you in the women's toilet instead of going there to pee.


    COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A female student says she was raped in a women's restroom on the Columbus State Community College campus Thursday morning.

    http://www.nbc4i.com/story/20747977/student-raped-in-restroom-on-columbus-state-campus

    Rape suspect caught in women's restroom before

    Nathaniel Hart, charged with the sexual assault of a Montgomery College student Tuesday, had been caught in a women's restroom before, the college said in a statement Friday.

    Police say Hart crawled under a stall in a women's bathroom in the performing arts center at the school's Takoma Park/Silver Spring campus and sexually assaulted a 19-year-old student Tuesday afternoon. He has since been charged.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/college-inc/2010/01/rape_suspect_caught_in_womens.html

    April 10, 2013

    DALLAS (CBS 11 NEWS) - A man accused of sexually assaulting three women in Dallas may have preyed on women in department stores months earlier.

    A disturbing background is emerging about suspected serial rapist Cesar Benitez.

    Plano Police say the 33-year-old was captured on video in April 2012being confronted by store security after walking out of the women’s restroom at this Kohl’s on Highway 75.

    “He did take off running and he left out of the building before we were able to detain him,” says David Tilley, Plano Police Department.

    Police were later able to identify Benitez, and a month later, he was arrested for another bathroom peeping incident at a Target store in Allen.

    A police officer there relayed a description to a patrol officer in Dallas who a year later matched Benitez to a sketch of the man responsible for three recent sexual assaults in Lake Highlands.

    Teen tells of rape in store

    "The first thing she felt was a hand over her mouth.

    "Don’t say anything or I’ll kill you."

    Then Robert Kemp pushed the frightened 19-year-old cashier into the handicapped stall of the women’s restroom and raped her, she told jurors Tuesday.

    http://articles.wsbt.com/2011-05-24/kemp_29579753

    May 24, 2013

    2800 block of N. Clarendon Boulevard, Arlington, VA

    "At 7:50 pm on May 24, a male subject was peeping over the bathroom stall at female victims in the women’s restroom. The subject fled the scene when the store manager called 911. The subject is described as a white male in his 40’s, with shaggy brown hair. He was wearing a red t-shirt with a grey button down, blue jeans and was carrying a large green bag at the time of the incident."

    http://rallyagainstrape.org/tag/restroom/

    NO BAIL FOR SUSPECT IN VIOLENT RAPE ATTEMPT


    "A Level III sex offender was held without bail at his arraignment this morning on charges that he violently tried to rape a stranger in a women’s restroom at Massachusetts General Hospital yesterday, Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said today."

    http://www.suffolkdistrictattorney.com/press-office/press-releases/press-releases-2009/no-bail-for-suspect-in-violent-rape-attempt/

    AUSTIN (KXAN) - A parks and recreation worker catches a suspect in the act of sexually assaulting a teenage girl.

    It happened Thursday morning at a bathroom at Waterloo Park in Downtown Austin.

    Police say a Parks and Recreation worker went to clean the bathrooms when he found the women's restroom door closed. He opened it to find a man having sex with a teenage girl.

    http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/crime/kxan-man-accused-of-raping-girl-in-bathroom

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  80. "Stop automatically assuming a trans woman wants to rape you in the toilet instead of going there to pee."

    Attention Women,

    Stop automatically assuming a strange biological male wants to rape you in the women's toilet instead of going there to pee.


    A 24-year-old man who followed a Portland State University student off the MAX train and into a women's restroom on campus -- where he tried to pull off her jeans -- will be sentenced next month to 2 1/2 years in prison.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/04/beaverton_man_who_followed_por.html

    A transient was sent to prison for life for raping a woman in the public restroom of a downtown Oklahoma City hotel.

    Juan Josquin Wilson, 35, was sentenced Friday to life in prison with the possibility of parole for attacking the woman Jan. 18 at the hotel on Broadway. The woman was a hotel worker, prosecutors said.

    Wilson pleaded guilty Sept. 30 to one count of first-degree rape and one count of second-degree rape (rape by instrumentation.

    http://newsok.com/rape-at-oklahoma-city-hotel-draws-life-sentence/article/3621033

    Teen arrested for rape at school

    The Jacksonville Sheriff’s office has arrested a 13-year-old Kirby Smith Middle School student for sexual battery against another student.

    According to the arrest report, the incident happened Monday afternoon as the victim was walking toward her locker. The suspect is accused of physically forcing the female student into a women’s restroom to assault her. The arrest report indicates he pulled down the victim’s clothing and forced her to have sex with him. The suspect is also accused of forcing the female student to perform oral sex on him. Once the student got free, she alerted authorities.

    http://www.wokv.com/news/news/teen-arrested-rape-school/nXHHM/

    In March 2010, a immigrant from Morocco, Mbarek Lafrem (pictured), severely beat a nurse because she wouldn’t dance with him in a Manhattan bar. He followed her into the women’s restroom where he attempted to rape her and fractured her skull, eye socket, nose and jaw and cut her forehead, requiring 50 stitches.

    http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2011/07/19/moroccan-pleads-guilty-to-brutal-beating/

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  81. "There are more young transitioners because there is more information out there, so that trans people don't have to spend years wondering what the hell is wrong with them."

    There are more transitioners because it's plastered all over the internet where girls starting at age 11 or 12 can see a zillion youtube videos. They don't like to admit it, but the transgender community is responsible for promoting "transitioning". When 14year old girls are already saying they are FTM "pre-everything" ("T", etc.) one starts to wonder. I asked this question numerous times, but I will keep asking it until I get some kind of answer. Why is an injectable prescription drug simply called "T"? Other injectable drugs such an insulin aren't just called "I", and people don't make youtube videos of "first shot of "T", "one month on "T", "six months on "T", etc. This is the social promotion of a culturally prescribed cure for something that is largely culturally based to begin with.

    I googled "T" and FTM and got about 11,700,000 results in 0.23 seconds.

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  82. Yes, you can delay transition till post-puberty and adulthood, but what if you still feel exactly the same afterwards? You've lost the opportunity to avoid having to undergo top surgery (if you're FAAB) since you've now developed breasts If you're MAAB, you now have unwanted facial and body hair, adeep voice, and other characteristics that are much harder to be rid of if you then have to transition.

    It's exactly like a said in an earlier post. There is less healthy tissue to remove later. Being able to "pass better" comes with a price, and we are talking about children who do not have the mental capacity to fully understand what is being done to them. How can any say that there aren't ethical issues involved in possible sterilizing children. PUBERTY IS A NORMAL PART OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. It's true that puberty suppressing drugs can be discontinued and normal adolescence will start, but some children go straight from the puberty suppressing drugs to cross gender hormones. In many countries, cross gender hormones can start at age 16. It's my understanding that fertility can be compromised if children take cross gender hormones after puberty suppressing drugs.

    This is from Dr. Spack:

    "Children's provides cross-sex hormone therapy to patients who are taking puberty-blocking drugs and who choose to continue with medical intervention, as well as to a select group of patients who have been referred to the GeMS clinic after they completed or nearly completed puberty. Cross-sex hormone therapy causes some irreversible effects: estrogen diminishes sperm production in males, and testosterone causes females to stop ovulating and menstruating.

    http://www.childrenshospital.org/dream/summer10/puberty-suppressing_drugs.html

    Notice how the article says, "cross-sex hormone therapy causes some irreversible effects". They don't have the integrity to say they are sterilizing children all because of what amounts to a culturally prescribed treatment.

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  83. THE EUGENICS OF GENDER NON-CONFORMING CHILDREN...

    "Children's provides cross-sex hormone therapy to patients who are taking puberty-blocking drugs and who choose to continue with medical intervention."

    http://www.childrenshospital.org/dream/summer10/puberty-suppressing_drugs.html

    "What are the health risks for untreated transgender youth?

    Transgender youth, whether male or female, may be at serious risk for self-harm and often engage in life-threatening behaviors related to their transgender identity. Patients sense that they are "trapped in the wrong body" and many experience verbal or physical abuse as a result of their gender expression. Many transgender youth report having seriously thought about taking their lives. Over 25 percent of the transgender youth who participated in a recent study had actually attempted suicide."

    http://www.childrenshospital.org/dream/summer10/puberty-suppressing_drugs.html

    There are numerous research papers that show that gay and lesbian teenagers ALSO HAVE HIGH RATES OF DEPRESSION AND THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. SO, LET'S GIVE THEM PUBERTY SUPPRESSING DRUGS TOO. LET'S "FIX" THE GAY AND LESBIAN CHILDREN TOO, ESPECIALLY THE GIRLS WHO LOOK LIKE BUTCH LESBIANS. OR, THE BOYS WHO ARE TOO EFFIMINATE.

    This is so creepy that it's unbelievable. They are talking about "medical intervention" for a psychiatric diagnosis in children. I can think of several "medical interventions" in psychiatry such as depression, but anti-depressants, for example, DON'T INTENTIONALLY DELAY A NORMAL STAGE OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. Moreover, psych medications work on the neurotransmitters in the brain. THEY DON'T INTENTIONALLY DISRUPT HEALHTY REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEMS.

    I don't care what anyone says. Puberty suppressing drugs for children comes with some serious ethical issues.

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  84. More on puberty suppressing drug, or the eugenics of gender non-conforming children...

    I posted this earlier, but think it needs repeating. Puberty suppressing drugs for "gender dysphoria" or GID in children assumes all the following:

    (1.) The diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" or GID in children is accurate, and there isn't something else going on in the child's life.

    (2.) The child is completely free from any parental, peer, or cultural influences. How much is actual "gender dysphoria" or GID and how much is parental discomfort at having a child that doesn't fit neatly into sex based gender roles?

    (3.) Children have the mental capacity to decide or choose for themselves.

    It’s a scientific fact that the pre-frontal cortex of the human brain which is sometimes called the judgment center of the brain isn’t fully developed until the early to mid-twenties.

    ”The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the “CEO of the brain.” This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of “correct” behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals.1,2 This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise “good judgment” when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.”

    http://www.hhs.gov/opa/familylife/tech_assistance/etraining/adolescent_brain/Development/prefrontal_cortex/

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  85. There's a difference between men who dress up as women deliberately in order to perform rape or other assaults, and trans women, who live as women, and just want to pee. And the second category is in the vast majority. You don't hear about them because they've just gone into the toilet, peed and left.

    Are there bad trans people? Of course. But they are not bad because they're trans. They're bad because they're bad people. Some people are bad people, and the vast majority of bad people are not trans. Condemning an entire grop of people for hte actions af a few of them is called bigotry. Replace 'trans' with 'black' or 'gay' in your diatribes and you see how it sound.

    And you've trotted out the same handful of bad people every. fucking. time. Do you think the trans community wants these people on their 'side'? If we accept them, we're damned because then we're all rapists like them. If we reject them we're damned because then trans women are just men in dresses anyway who look and act like freaks and only want 'nice' people to be us.

    If a lesbian commits a heinous crime, do you assume all lesbians are criminals? Of course not. So why is it different fro trans women? When we point out that more trans women are murdered than any other marginalized group, you say that doesn't matter, because ooh look, more women are killed than trans women are, so our deaths are not important enough to worry about. But the minute a so-called trans woman kills or rapes (a rare occurrence, despite what you make it seem) every trans woman is a rapist and a murderer.

    Funny now that works. You know what your mistake is. Your reasoning runs like this:

    Trans woman = man
    Man = penis
    Penis = rape
    Trans woman = rapist

    And stop calling the limited puberty blockers eugenics. That's fucking scaremongering lying nonsense. Yes, it has its problems, no one's saying it's a perfect solution to the difficulties of being trans, but it can help those in most need. Some trans children become desperate when faced with the prospect of developing characteristics that terrify them. It takes the pressure off until they're old enough to understand their situation better, and can make decisions (usually with the help of adult professionals). Typing their parents as 'oh my god no I can't have a gay child lets make it trans' bigots is utterly ridiculous and disingenuous, not to mention disgusting.

    You people need to stop pretending you care about us, you don't, you care about some mythical lesbians. Shock horror! Some of us never liked girls. We are those trans kids you keep complaining about. And now we've grown up and we're still trans. We have minds of our own. We have intelligence. We're not fucking puppets. We can think for ourselves, thanks very much, we don't need you to tell us what we are or how we must live. Go away and leave us alone.

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  86. There's a difference between men who dress up as women deliberately in order to perform rape or other assaults, and trans women, who live as women, and just want to pee.

    No, there really isn't that much difference, if it exists at all. Besides, how are women supposed to tell the difference if they both wear a dress, makeup, and a wig.

    I'm sure if someone asked Ronny Darnell, the transgneder convicted rapist who reapeadly raped a 13 year old girl if felt as if he were trans, he would say yes. After all, why would he ask for hormones while in prison, and believes that he feels like a woman inside.

    FACT: THERE ARE BIOLOGICAL MALES WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDER AND/OR CROSS DRESS WHO ARE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS. THEY HAVE MOLESTED CHILDREN AND MURDERED WOMEN.


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  87. If a lesbian commits a heinous crime, do you assume all lesbians are criminals? Of course not. So why is it different fro trans women?

    Because they are women, lesbians are more likely to be victims of rape or sexual assault than perpetrators. Corrective rape of lesbians is well documented to have occurred in South Africa.

    I've covered this several times. It's the fact that they ARE STILL MALE AND CRIME STATISTICS SHOW THAT MALES ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE INOLVED IN VIOLENT CRIME, AND ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS. Yes, it's sad when a transgender person is assaulted, but the vast majority of the brutal assaults and murder have been committed by males. I think there was one incident in which two women ran a transgender out of the women's restroom and he was scuffled up a bit, but the actual vicious attacks and murders have been carried out by males.

    The Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice states,

    March 2007

    National criminal justice statistics reveal that of all adults and juveniles who come to the attention of the authorities for sex crimes, females account for less than 10% of these cases (FBI, 2006). Specifically, arrests of women represent only 1% of all adult arrests for forcible rape and 6% of all adult arrests for other sex offenses.

    Census and Caseload Data from Criminal and Juvenile Justice Agencies

    In contrast to the approximately 140,000 men incarcerated in prisons nationwide for sex crimes, only 1,500 women are estimated to be imprisoned for these offenses (Harrison & Beck, 2005). They represent only 1% of all adults incarcerated for sex offenses, and 2% of all females in prison.

    http://www.csom.org/pubs/female_sex_offenders_brief.pd

    The Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice states,

    March 2007

    National criminal justice statistics reveal that of all adults and juveniles who come to the attention of the authorities for sex crimes, females account for less than 10% of these cases (FBI, 2006). Specifically, arrests of women represent only 1% of all adult arrests for forcible rape and 6% of all adult arrests for other sex offenses.

    Census and Caseload Data from Criminal and Juvenile Justice Agencies

    In contrast to the approximately 140,000 men incarcerated in prisons nationwide for sex crimes, only 1,500 women are estimated to be imprisoned for these offenses (Harrison & Beck, 2005). They represent only 1% of all adults incarcerated for sex offenses, and 2% of all females in prison. Similarly, adolescent girls represent only 2% of the roughly 7,500 sex offenders placed in juvenile residential facilities nationwide, and they account for only 1% of all girls in residential placements
    The Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice states,

    http://www.csom.org/pubs/female_sex_offenders_brief.pdf

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  88. @ “You people need to stop pretending you care about us, you don't, you care about some mythical lesbians."
    Not going anyplace. Ah yes another order issued from the Trans General. We are not pretending we care about you.You indeed maybe a lost cause. And will be the wefare offices problem not ours. We just hope that this “Fad” and yeah it is a fad—does not destroy huge numbers of lives. If you tanked yourself up on hormones and have had cosmetic surgery well your loss, a day late and a dollar short and I would not waste my time. But there are others who may still have a chance at a good life if they stay far away from your thinking. So no pretending here.

    You have a mind of your own as you merely parrot the Trans line—boring, simple minded but most of all untrue. Whatever. Alls well that ends well. Somebody made a buck or two. No doubt you be happy Trans, right? Good now move along nothing to see except sane people with lives.

    Yes people will keep listing the names of the killers, over and over. Trans kills. Get it. And here’s a stroke of genius--On Trans Remberance day organizing groups at the State House with information, the names of all the Trans rapists and murder. WOW all the victims really out number the total of Trans killed in the last decade— oh no, looks like Trans are murder machines, bawaaa not the victim, (oh but they have to the victim, it is so erotic), you don’t to be protected, bawaa threaten suicide. —let’s see the Trans threaten to tear out our cunts--20 Trans murders faces (all purty and freaky In full face make up blown up on poster boards. It makes Silence of the Lambs look like Disney). Then, we will have a silent vigil for the victims(women and children murdered by Trans)—you know candles as we walk up the State House Steps. And that bathroom law, flush it. I wonder if the boys will show up and scream bigot at all the nice Moms, State by state, slowly quietly and under the radar permits, spokem to Rotary clubs and state reps. And it will get easier State by State—on the other hand these guys can’t stop killing and raping the list just keeps growing. This does not even include all the threats they send—but we’ll squeeze them in some place.

    Bottom line, and pay attention: the world does not care how people “feel”. You can’t legislate that, can't demand, can't shame. So cut the crap with trying to claim they have so kind of right to enter women’s space, because it arouses them. Their arousal is not on our schedule in this life. They are dangers to women. Cross dresser is not yet an oppressed protected class. Now of course it is all political and this is where most law enforcement and medical professionals are signing on with the women—my suggestion for the future--these boys better either wear adult diapers (which maybe a whole new dimension) or make a wee wee before they leave the house,

    Correct I do not care about anyone that would encourage kids to take deadly hormones and undergo surgical procedures to. And if you are in that group I have no problems saying—I don’t give a rats ass. So puppet and parrot away. We are not going away. Sorry to interrupt your delusion. This fad will come and go and those that signed on will be left with a pile of shit for a life. They will make the 60’s burnout cases look high functioning achievers.

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  89. @ 12:36 PM

    You're not making a lot of sense, you know. And you're making a hell of a lot of unfounded assumptions, both about trans people in general, and about me in particular. You seem incapable of realising that trans people are not some demonic force out to to destroy lesbians or women. Most are far too busy trying to get through the pain of transition. You talk a lot of nonsense about a group of people who are mostly living their lives as best they can, who don't go around murdering people or raping people (this whole trope of trans women are rapists is pretty disgusting and bigoted, and dragging up the same few exceptions isn't going to make it any less so).

    You really think all trans people, men and woman alike, are just deluded? Really? Where are these crazies? I don't seem to find them anywhere. What I see are people trying to live their lives. Did I deny there are some trans people who are bad? No. But you basically don't want to believe any trans people are good, or normal or decent, or anything but the boogyman you made up in your head. If you believed we were real people with a problem that needs fixing - a problem which transition largely fixes - your whole nasty little anti-trans worldview would fall apart. All this shit about trans women only existing so they can get hard - are you fucking serious? You people really think you're crazy views are shared by anyone but yourselves?

    We are not discussing 'cross-dressers' here. We are talking about trans women. People who live as women. You can drag cross-dressers in all you like, and pretend every trans person in the world is this caricature in high heels and chest hair but that's not who we're talking about. And you know it. So stop the shit. Stop acting like you're some moral authority on who gets to live the way they need to.

    Hormones are not 'deadly'. Do they occasionally have effects that aren't desirable? Of course. But the people who take them know this. They accept the risk, because not taking them is worse. And mostly, bad effects don't happen. That's why you have doctor's monitoring your intake of T or E, so that problems are dealt with when and if they occur.

    And contrary to what you say, most trans guys are happy with their top surgery results. They know it's not always going to come out perfectly. Why do you assume they haven't thought about these things, why do you assume they're dupes with no brains who haven't considered and weighed the pros and cons, sometimes for many years? Same with trans women, who sometimes have to wait a long time to even be able to afford to access the surgery they need to make themselves feel whole. And you, in your self-righteous perfect indignation would happily deny them that, while calling them rapists and murderers.

    And you find us disgusting?

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  90. No such thing as "Trans" there are male cross dressers and some lesbians that have have their brains twisted six ways to Sunday by people cashing in on this. And yes mens that claim to be women have a murder and rape rate through the roof--which puts in the dangerous and disgusting category. That you do not find rapist and murders disgusting is your little void in humanity not mine.

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  91. @ 4:13 PM

    Sorry, you're totally wrong, at no point did I say rapists and murderers were good people - don't twist my words to fit your agenda. I said that most trans women are not rapists and murderers, despite what you'd like to believe.

    And the whole idiotic notion that all trans women are male cross dressers and all trans men are lesbian is crazy. Seriously. It's laughable. Are you from GenderTrender or something? Honestly, how can I debate anything with someone who talks batshit crap like that? Leaving aside the whole crossdresser shite, there are many trans men who never, ever were attracted to girls, or indeed, to anyone. Or are bi, or poly. And I have yet to find one who was not intelligent, articulate nor the slightest bit twisted. And you know, some actually transition late in life. Stop claiming they're all girls/children who are being forced into it. Did you not know that most trans people hate being trans? You think anyone would choose to have surgery just to feel normal in their own body?

    You keep ignoring the fact that trans people do exist, and do not conform to your boogeyman stereotypes at all.

    And if you are claiming that trans women are men, then the murder rate is exactly the same for them committing murders and rapes as it is for all men committing murders and rapes. You can't have it both ways. I'm talking about trans women - people who are women, who live as women. People who quite often don't even have penises any more to do any raping with.

    Can you try facing reality, instead of pretending that we are all crazy? Stop listening to the voices in your head and talk to some actual trans people. Listen to what we say about our lives, our experiences.

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  92. You wish I was wrong but I'm not.vEither you are being willfully ignorant to keep the Trans narrative going or you are lying. No "female brain" in male body. All the science has proved that wrong. But their is sexual arousal from women's attire--a sexual fetish called cross dresser. Nothing new hon, old as the hills. There is no such thing as Trans it is made up by people to describe at lest six different mental illness and a co-morbid conditions. There is zero science. Almost always the Dx is made by low level MSWs LSWs with no education in any hard science. Many times these people Dx at lest 30 people with it a year—wow what a profit margin.
    If people have the money and want cosmetic surgery that’s their right—their money, their body but if I put on a wolf mask it does not make me a wolf.

    The reality is that 80% of the men that claim they are women are heterosexual; they then claim they are lesbians. This information is not hard to get look it up. As gender is a theory I don’t have to believe it. I accept sex XX or XY and that can’t be changed. And this is my right. I don’t have to play along with the delusions of other people—call me a non-conformist. Don’t believe in gender theory—oh well.

    I do not care how a man feels unless he’s related to me. It is not my problem. My problem is keeping myself and my children safe and by extension other women and children—

    There is nothing that can convince you these men claiming to be women are dangerous, even though all the stats and cases are out there. That’s your problem. But it does not matter if I convince you because sooner or later it will be accepted fact. Who I convince are state reps, assemble persons, representatives. Sweetie I know trans people—I am not pulling this out of my hat and that is why representatives listen to me. You wish I was like you think but I’m not.
    As far as I’m concerned these guys can do whatever they want to “feel” however they want (and BTW most do not have surgery and those hormones do not make them impotent either) but they can’t have access to women’s safe spaces. Educate yourself but don’t be so damn cavalier and smug with women’s lives—Look up how many “trans (women) have raped women and murdered, raped them with their transwomen penis. It isn’t just one bad apple it is about 400 all in prison. So the question is do rapist who is male bodied—have a penis and have raped (and are now Miss Lillian) get entrance into women’s safe spaces—well not if we can help it and we will help it.

    And that’s the reality I face. Keep rapist out. Unfortunately there are many Trans rapist (not good PR for the whole safe and legit line) Why it makes no sense to you I am not sure. Most people I speak to get it very quickly. Late March I was in one state when they were voting on the bathroom bill. I met the rep maybe 40 minutes before the vote and he understood he got it very quickly. Same for another state a couple of weeks ago they all got it. You think if call me crazy that makes it true. You think it somehow by magic erases me—it doesn’t. So call me crazy—crazy like a fox. What you need to try to erase are all the rapes and murders--good luck. Politicians don't like rapists and murders anymore than the rest of society.

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  93. @ 1:28 AM

    All you'll achieve is getting a lot more trans woman attacked as they are forced into men's toilets, where neither they or the men want them to be. The law-abiding will be penalised, while the rapists you fear will continue to rape, because they don't give a fuck for your rules anyway (and no, most of them are not trans women).

    The overwhelming majority of trans people enter a public toilet for one reason and one reason only - to use the facilities provided. And if they pass, how are you going to keep them out anyway? Look up everyone's skirt or pull down their trousers? You seem awfully keen on peering at people's genitals.

    As I said before, there are bad trans people. There are good trans people. Trans people in general are no better or worse than any other kinds of people. It was once assumed all black men were out to rape white women, but no decent person believes that shit now, even though a few black men do rape white women. But you are willing - happy and delighted, it seems to me - to assume that all trans woman are out to rape, never just to go to the toilet. That's called prejudice and bigotry, in case you hadn't noticed

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  94. @ All you'll achieve is getting a lot more trans woman attacked as they are forced into men's toilets, where neither they or the men want them to be.

    By transwomen you mean people that are XY and who 80% of have a penis--When I refer to them I do so by stating men who think they are women, or men that wear women's attire or men. I am talking about people who are XY not people who are XX.
    Well in the equation of who’s safety matters I would say women’s because they have been raped and killed by Trans. So far people are in agreement. From what I can tell many did not know. I have met with little resistance and either have others. To a certain extent all of this is just coming out. There are too many that are too dangerous to be in women’s’ safe places. So if the choice is a man safety or women’s and children’s—I am going with the latter as will most people. We present the names and pictures of the attackers and the names of the victims. It does not help that the Trans political lobby rallies behind murders and paints them as the victim and then says the women were asking for it. Regular folk don’t like that. But it helps us prove our points. Right now some State elections are coming up and "in boxes" and faxes will be flood until the vote. We point out the exaggeration claims of victim made by Trans. And ask--why are they who have penis fight so crazy hard to get near your wife, your daughter. Maybe they will put in (trans bathrooms) but no penis is in the ladies room, or a woman’s hospital room, or shelter, or prison. Yes women think about genitals as penis is what rapes women we are interested in genitals.The analogy between black and Trans is faulty because there never were more than a few documented cases of black men attacking white people. It was rare, very rare. We have enough documentation to sink a battle ship. With Trans XY there are hundreds of hundreds serving time for violence against women. As register sex offenders they can’t live near a school or children and we’re working to make sure they are not in women’s spaces either. We can’t tell who is a rapist—otherwise we would be safe and no woman or child would have ever been raped and murdered by a Transwoman, with a penis and a knife. So while I have no doubt there are safe men that claim they are women there are dangerous ones also in enough numbers that it is a public safety issue.

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  95. @ 7:49 PM

    You don't make one group safe by making another group unsafe. All you'll do is mke it unsafe for non-passing trans women to use a toilet, becaue the rapists will just go on raping, while the trans women who pass will carry on using the women's facilities. So the people you'll most hurt with be trans women who are just starting their transition and going through their real Life test, whch means they have to live and present as women 24/7 or risk being told they're not trans enough to deserve SRS, trans women who can;t afford the horresndous price of SRS, and trans women who can't pass because of their body type or age. All these people are at great risk if they enter a men's toilet. Wheras, if a trans woman enters a woman's toilet, the risk to the other women is not much greater than normal, since most trans woman are not rapists.

    Your only method of enforcing this discriminatory legislation seems to be - reject at the door anyone who looks a bit manly, or pull down everyone's pants. Not exactly foolproof, and humiliating to all concerned.

    Oh, but I forgot - trans women are all rapists and perverts, not real humans who just want to pee.

    Not even all cross-dressing men aren't rapists, so how you can assume any trans woman, regardless of character, circumstances, morals, transition status or anything else is inevitably a rapist, I don't know.

    You want to exclude men who dress up to rape, at least have the decency to apologise to the innocent trans woman you'll also have to exclude, because you don't know how to tell the difference.

    Oh, but I forgot, they're trans woman, so they're all rapists and don't matter.

    You want to address the problem of toilet safety? Campaign for single-occupancy, gender-neutral toilets that open out directly into safe, well-lit areas which are monitored 24/7. That way, everyone is safe, everyone gets to pee, no one needs to be humiliated or hurt.

    And stop assuming trans women exist only to rape. There's no crime on the statue books called 'raping while being trans'. Rapists rape. Full stop.

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  96. Re 9:51 AM

    That should read:

    'Not even all cross-dressing men are rapists'

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  97. Another consequence of your bathroom bill: fully transitioned ftm trans men will be forced to use the women's toilet, where women don't want them to be (because they are men) and where they don't want to be (because they are men).

    It's going to force a lot of people to either break the law, or out themselves if they're living stealth (as in not disclosing their trans medical history to those who have no business knowing it).

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  98. I've been yanked from more public bathrooms than I can remember, verbally as well as physically as have tens of thousands of Butch women all over the world. Trans females piss/shit situation isnt so special. You deal with it, special privileged be damned!

    dirt

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  99. @ Dirt

    So, because you receive harassment in a toilet for your gender presentation, you think everyone else should? You know what it's like yet you are happy to see it inflicted on others?

    At least you'll be safe from jail when you piss, so be damned to anyone else, right?

    You're a horrible person.

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  100. I dont see anywhere I said I was "happy" about anything. But until society sees more women who carry their femaleness differently (even trans females via drugs, for the time being) harassment will continue.

    Adn what "jail" has to do with any of this is beyond me I'm afraid.

    dirt

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  101. The narcissism is astounding. And you dare say Dirt is a horrible person. Here is how it works. Society protects the weakest those that do not have a choice. Which BTW is exactly what the Trans argument is. Right? They are so so so weak and in so so much danger. And there’s rub. They have floated the argument on lies about the danger when in fact they have been the perpetrators of more violence than they have been victims

    Lies have a short life span when they can shown to be lies—with police reports, court documents and hospital records. Stats are not hard to do. And they are not in the mens in dresses favor.

    Women are a real not to be confused with men who get a hard on from wearing female attire. As for safe space there are women that are pregnant, or nursing—women that are lighter, smaller boned, women that have in the past been raped and killed by Trans and of course children. These men with penises expect women to be put at risk because they claim they are scared of the men’s’ room. We can point out that there is no documentation—no police reports, no hospital reports to support their fears while women do have such documents. So it just some made up story—used to manipulate and get pity. “Have to live as a women” yep that’s what women do—except we are not playing, pinky and sparkly. Society at large will not be protecting the cross dresser delusion, the compulsion and the erotic fetish of men at the cost of women and children. As you may have noticed many public women’s spaces are equipped with facilities to tend for small children’s needs and preform maternal functions which means they are supposed to be a safe space.

    You think I overstate--hahah. Today another moment from Trans land, a lovely lady flashed a police officer—on tape. Can you hear it—oh mommy that lady had dick. And as that footage makes it way around our case gets stronger. And next week there will be another and then another. Because these bad boys can’t hold their shit together. This lady is a real charmer and will makes hearts bleed--a poster child for Trans, well she is our poster child for a few weeks. You think anyone is going to protect that person over pregnant women—get real. Can’t play the victim card when every day there is a new case of threatening behavior. Certainly, you can’t say it never happens or it is isolated. And then to justify it only makes Trans look more anti-social than they do—hard to imagine but true

    You say:

    Another consequence of your bathroom bill: fully transitioned ftm trans men will be forced to use the women's toilet, where women don't want them to be (because they are men) and where they don't want to be (because they are men). 

It's going to force a lot of people to either break the law, or out themselves if they're living stealth (as in not disclosing their trans medical history to those who have no business knowing it).


    I say
    Too bad.When they break the law and get caught they will be prosecuted and tagged as sex offenders. Stealth--WTF we don't care, Realize that Trans dick, trans privacy is NOT WORTH WOMENS LIVES, not for women at lest—we like being alive.

    As for outing, yes some may out themselves—and if women are not provided spaces free of XY outing could be a frequent occurrence. I know many women who would do it in a heartbeat—rapist and molesters are outed all the time. Why? To protect women and children. There is no law against gossip. No law against some saying on the Internet. So what outing—a man’s “privacy is worth more than a womans life” you are sick—get help. Women give up privacy of medical status every time they are pregnant and get fired—so I would smarten up.

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  102. @ 10:26 PM

    You're still saying every trans person is a rapist, and that every trans person has a dick (whether transitioned fully or not), that every trans person is a 'male cross dresser', and that I am a male-bodied trans person. Non of the above is true.

    If someone commits a crime, then they are criminals. Being trans is not a crime.

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  103. No I did not say every trans rapes and murders. I said many (different than every--two different words). And women can't tell which ones will rape or murder or women would have never raped and murdered in the first place by Trans. Do you see anyplace I used the word every. No.

    I said that men rape even when they dress like women and they rape at the same rate as men that dress in anything else--And that "trans" have a documented (key word) history and of violence--(rape and murder) against women and children.

    Yes 80% M2T have a dick. And that's why laws are changing. No penis in women's safe spaces. They are cross dressers and no they are not women--dick or not.

    And it does not matter what I say to you. It matters what gets said and shown to others.

    Did you see her. Sure you did--class act wasn't she? I love her. As one rep said--"holy shit. Okay I get what you're saying now. Thanks for showing me"--In my head I was like--Yes. Fist pump. I just nodded demurely and thanked him.

    It has been a really good day. I am so happy I got a new job I really wanted and I asked for more money and they called today and said yes--truth is I would have taken it anyway. Anyway it is something I can do a lot of good in, for women and kids and it has an educational aspect too. Crap I had so much make up on for the interview I looked Trans--god how can those guy stand it--oh yeah the erotic thrill--lost me there.

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