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Friday, May 31, 2013

A Trans Trender Commits Suicide-A Trans Sister Reacts


This post is in response to the above video, please watch video before reading post.

In a very unlikely turn of events, a trans person documented a trans suicide. The Trans community and above all the Trans Politic is always on HIGH alert to quickly cover up the suicide of someone within its cloistered ranks. None the less we are beginning to see studies coming out documenting the high rates of post transition suicides.

I cannot help but feel this trans female's reason for video documentation of the suicide of another young trans female is, while I believe she genuinely does feel sorry for her trans sisters tragic demise, she NEEDED to make this video in effort to convince herself there's reason enough to live. I suppose this, not based solely on this video alone, although this video is compelling enough on its own right.

I do applaud her her honesty. A BIG no no under the Trans Articles of Conduct. Unlike the thousands of trans videos that do little in the way of practicing transparency. Videos that instead, a little too eagerly boast of new improved lives all because of the liquid substance found in a tiny vial. I'm reminded of an AbFab episode where the mother is struggling to lose weight. Her daughter says to her "Look, mum. All you've got to do is eat less and take a bit of exercise." To which the mother responds "Sweetie, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it." 

I think the post transition suicides, post transition eating disorders, post transition depression, post transition dysphoria, post transition cutting, post transition social anxieties, post transition sexual dysfunction, post transition relationship problems, post transition general unhappiness etc all go to the heft that transition not only isnt not "that easy", but more over that there isnt any gold at the end of the queer rainbow. For far too many, there isnt even fucking rainbow.

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  1. ***I'm truly sorry for the loss of this life. May this individual rest in peace.***

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  2. Don't people get counseling for depression and other personal issues before they transition?

    At any rate, it is a sad tragedy. My heart goes out to the family.




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    1. The least is 3 months of therapy before they even think about horemones.

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  3. Wow... You're a horrible person.

    You might be the worst case of hate speech I've ever seen.

    You must be in a lot of pain.

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  4. The problem may be that you're obsessed with the idea of Patriarchy. But Patriarchy is not the answer for everything.

    Please, track down the things that are really eating you, and let go of all this hate. This 'Dirt' concept is just you clinging to your own unhappiness. Let go. Give it a try.

    I wish you all the best for your future, my friend.

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  5. My respects to the family....it's depressing...

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  6. I must agree with Anon 2:14.

    You're nothing more than an overly obsessed, bigoted, conspiracy theorist.

    "The Trans community and above all the Trans Politic is always on HIGH alert to quickly cover up the suicide of someone within its cloistered ranks."

    Yes, because we run a top secret organization that tries to brainwash youth. We must cover up any and every thing that makes our little organization look bad to the general public. Seriously, have you listened to yourself? You're as bad if not worse than the homophobes I read about in the news.

    "A Trans Trender Commits Suicide"

    Someone kills them self and you still resort to name calling. This person is dead. This person was a human being. But it's obvious you don't nor will ever them as such. You say you care about trans people and that's why you make these posts. But quit kidding yourself. It's just an excuse to hate on someone.

    It's sad, pathetic and absolutely hypocritical. You're far worse than any homophobe. You oughta know what it's like to be discriminated against. Yet you do it yourself.

    "Transphobic Feminism: Judging folks by what is or was between their legs. Just as patriarchy has for centuries."

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  7. Ian, I've been watching some of your earlier youtube videos. I know this is a very difficult and painful time, but in your earlier videos, you talk about suicide attempts when you were younger.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7Yl-N49ZM

    Please get some counseling for the depression. YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL PERSON. I'M SO SORRY....



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  8. MAY THIS PERSON REST IN PEACE...

    ...THE LOSS OF ANY HUMAN LIFE IS A TRAGEDY..

    Yes, because we run a top secret organization that tries to brainwash youth. We must cover up any and every thing that makes our little organization look bad to the general public. Seriously, have you listened to yourself? You're as bad if not worse than the homophobes I read about in the news.




    YES, HOMOPHOBES ARE HORRIBLE!

    "I would much rather see my daughter grow up to be a trans man and receive the respect that comes from being a man, rather than be steered into becoming a carpet muncher and someone who gets absolutely no respect in our society."


    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/camps-influencing-our-impressionable.html


    There are 14 year old girls who are already talking about "T" and binding their breasts. These 14, 15, and 16 year old girls do not understand that "transitioning" in and of itself is not a guarantee of permanent happiness.



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  9. ....don't talk about the patriarchy or transitioning....

    I think the post transition suicides, post transition eating disorders, post transition depression, post transition dysphoria, post transition cutting, post transition social anxieties, post transition sexual dysfunction, post transition relationship problems, post transition general unhappiness etc all go to the heft that transition not only isnt not "that easy", but more over that there isnt any gold at the end of the queer rainbow.

    I agree, but we aren't allowed to talk about it. Don't talk about "transitioning" at all. This hurts people's feelings. It's perfectly fine for the transgender community to push "transitioning" and to more or less tell young women that this will cure all their discomfort and they will never be sad again. HAPPINESS, SECURITY, AND TRUE PEACE OF MIND COMES FROM WITHIN NOT VIA SURGERY OR YEARS OF HORMONES.

    The problem may be that you're obsessed with the idea of Patriarchy. But Patriarchy is not the answer for everything.


    I was no different than Ian or any other trans identified female. When I realized that patriarchy was the problem, I stopped being depressed. I no longer feel like ending my life because I expect to kick patriarchy in the arse. This is what the politically correct trans community won't tell women. Patriarchy seriously messes with the minds of females, and it has been going on for thousands of years. It does great damage to the souls, spirits, and bodies of women. Because transgender serves patriarchy very well, they capitulate instead of confronting it head on.

    I WISH THIS PERSON HAD GOTTEN SOME COUNSELING. WHY DIDN'T THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY TRY TO GET THIS PERSON SOME KIND OF THERAPY? Don't blame this on dirt.






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  10. "I'm 14 years old and I'm female to male transgender...I'm pre-T and pre-op."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRhvwZHy3w


    I fully realize that this is a very sad situation, and a human life has been lost. It is very painful. Is anyone telling these 14 year old girls that "transitioning" won't always make them feel better? Where is the transgender community on this issue? All they seem to do is to promote "transitioning" ("T" as in testosterone, "top surgery", etc.)

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  11. @ 4:38 AM

    I agree, but we aren't allowed to talk about it. Don't talk about "transitioning" at all. This hurts people's feelings. It's perfectly fine for the transgender community to push "transitioning" and to more or less tell young women that this will cure all their discomfort and they will never be sad again

    Bullshit. No one claims that transitioning solves all problems. It solves one only - having male gender identity while being female-bodied. It's not a perfect solution, but it works for the majority of cases, well enough to make life possible for those whose gender/body dysphoria is too great. That's all. Most FTM guys will quickly grasp that, however much they'd like to wish it made everything perfect.

    I WISH THIS PERSON HAD GOTTEN SOME COUNSELING. WHY DIDN'T THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY TRY TO GET THIS PERSON SOME KIND OF THERAPY? Don't blame this on dirt.

    Who says they didn't? You don't know anything about it. Maybe this poor kid wasn't able to reach out to anyone. The maker of the video seemed to believe that the boy's family rejected him - maybe you might consider this as an obvious reason for suicidal thoughts, that a person's closest family didn't support them. Ever thought that bigotry of the kind displayed her daily might just have a part to play? No, of course not. You're too wrapped up in your precious anti-trans ideas.

    Stop calling this person female. they were not female. Even in death, you and your kind refuse to show the least degree of respect for a person's own stated identity. Dirt may not be responsible for the death of this young man, but the bigotry and lies she promulgates against trans men and women, the biased nonsense she spews, are symptomatic of a wider attitude.

    You want to help young trans men? Engage them on their own terms, Respect their identities. Then you can start talking to them about other ways of living. Go around claiming you know them and their lives better than they know themselves and they'll rightly laugh in your faces, or tell you to fuck off.

    Most trans people don't regret transition. They regret not doing it sooner, they regret not having supportive loving families, they regret having to face prejudice and bigotry for something they cannot help.

    On Tumblr yesterday I read a post from a young trans guy who's had a metoidoplasty. he spoke of his satisfaction and happiness that at least now he can have sex without feeling wrong and awkward, being able to satisfy his partners sexual needs far better, and being generally a far more comfortable and happy person post-transition. But of course, you'd call this person a liar or a deluded female, because your tiny mind cannot conceive of anything outside its narrow box.

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  12. How is Dirt's blog 'hate speech?' It's not like she's calling for the death of these misguided kids. But just suggesting they're misguided is akin to hate to believers in trans. Why on earth should I be happy for a girl who thinks her entire body is a birth defect? It's a mental problem! Nobody believes in this shit even if they're pretending to in order to spare feelings (except for people with the same mental problem). As a homosexual, I've never felt the need to go onto blogs that think homosexuality is bad and give the people there a hard time. Why are transsexualists constantly harrassing (primarily female) bloggers?

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    1. Because on this blog you post friends and family of people that care deeply about them. If someone posted photos of your son or daughter online and started talking really nasty about them, wouldnt you be the least bit angry or concerned as how these people cant be arrested for harrasment?

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  13. Believers in transsexualism are hardly thinking 'outside the box.' Just because someone feels/thinks in a certain way, or dresses a certain way, or likes certain things doesn't mean something is 'wrong' with him or her and that they need medical/surgical correction. How is this liberated thinking?

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  14. It's weird how the girl in the video is blaming everybody's intolerance for the kid's suicide (sorry for calling her a girl, I see nothing 'male' about her), when most likely the one who killed herself probably had mental issues to begin with or why else would she think she wasn't female? Not that it isn't sad when any woman kills herself.

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  15. I use 'transsexualist' because it seems more like a religious belief system than anything.
    I never said that people who believe in this don't 'exist.'
    I have never 'mocked and reviled' anybody.
    I wouldn't think of going to blogs where people would say I'm a confused heterosexual just to tell them to fuck off.

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  16. @ 12:00 PM

    You think anyone is going to get surgery merely because they like 'boy' clothes or 'boy' sports? In most cases, it's about feeling a profound disconnection and distaste for your body which has nothing to do with internalised misogyny or any of the usual tired nonsense spewed out here. It's about looking into a mirror and being surprised to see a girl reflected back at you, because your inner body map, the thing you feel when you close your eyes, is male.

    The cause is not fully understood. Personally I don't go entirely for the 'it's just a medical condition' line, I believe it's a combination of factors of which a brain/body mismatch is only one, albeit probably the most important. But it very clearly exists as a real thing, because there are already many trans people out there living their lives in perfect normality as fully or partly transitioned individuals, some of whom you have probably passed in the street without any idea they have trans history. Don't believe the bullshit about trans men not passing. Almost all of them do if they've taken T and some do even if they haven't.

    Strangely enough, it's entirely possible to stop taking T if you have problems or discover its effects aren't what you expected, usually without too many changes having taken place. So you may end up with a lower voice or some extra hair - there are women who have those things naturally. There are flat-chested women, there are women with thin hair. Most ftm-identified people who feel they aren't ready or have made a mistake will realise it and stop or pause their transition until they are decide they aren't trans or that they just need more time to absorb the changes. Some go onto a lower dose for a while, or continue transition without testosterone at all. Trans people aren't this monolithic block who don't think about what they're doing. The majority have been thinking of little else but their gender identity for years. And they aren't all young, either. There are people who transition in their 30s, 40s, 50s, or even later. How do you account for them?

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  17. "But Patriarchy is not the answer for everything."

    I couldnt agree more Anon, it is the answer for NOTHING!

    dirt

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  18. Is thinking of little else but one's gender identity for years the sign of a healthy mind? I suppose you think pharmaceuticals and surgery are the cure for this obsession, but this makes no sense to me (and doesn't really look like a cure anyway as it seems the narcissism and persecution complexes remain and perhaps grow). Also, phrases like 'inner body map' make Trans look about as sensical as Scientology. Again, I just speak for myself, not a 'radical feminist' by any means, just a believer in nature and reality. (and also a 'gender non-conformist)

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  19. 3:12 PM

    I suppose you think pharmaceuticals and surgery are the cure for this obsession, but this makes no sense to me (and doesn't really look like a cure anyway as it seems the narcissism and persecution complexes remain and perhaps grow). Also, phrases like 'inner body map' make Trans look about as sensical as Scientology

    Using words like 'obsession' 'narcissism' and 'persecution complexes' doesn't exactly give your argument any weight. It's just the same tired, lying old tropes about trans people being trotted out for the hundredth time. Do you think trans people enjoy having to focus so much on the bodies they have problems with? Do yo imagine it's some kind of fun wondering day after day why they feel the way they do? All the while being called 'fake', 'misguided', 'liar', 'pervert', 'monster', 'freak'. You think that life is one that anyone would choose if there was another way?

    As for the body map - if you woke up tomorrow with a cock and balls and flat chest (assuming you are female-bodied) would you feel that was right for you? Or would it freak you out? Would you have no image of yourself as a female-bodied person, no idea how that was meant to feel?

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  20. It doesn't seem the best idea to use an impossibility as your argument.

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  21. @ 5:57 PM

    You have no imagination, then? No ability to think about anything outside your narrow box?

    Jesus, you people won't even try to understand, will you?

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  22. I love Woolf's Orlando as much as anybody on this earth, but it is FICTION, not an explanation for why troubled people must demand real-world medical procedures and drugs to alter their real minds and bodies (so they can pretend to have this mystical 'mind/body alignment' which doesn't even exist). You are basically saying one needs to believe in 'magic' to go for trans theory (and it is just a theory).

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  23. I guess when lesbians and gays commit suicide, we should blame it on their decision to live a gay lifestyle.

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  24. Okay blame Dirt, blame the family, blame everyone. But do not seriously expect anyone to accept the blame. Here is the harsh not pink pony reality—suicide is the result of mental illness and is a choice. Yes, it is sad. But really these people need to grow up. The cold hard truth, of how the world works--kill yourself, my life will go on, business as usual, pass the salt. So as a manipulative political trump card it does not work. About time the trans community took the blame for encouraging the delusion—Trans are to blame, Face it you people are deadly to yourselves and to each other. How you live with yourselves is really a question—The blame is yours, not Dirt’s, not the families not societies. Trans kills—period. And save your horse shit cries of transphobia—you’re all just manipulative and toxic.

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  25. @Anon 10:04

    So much hatred in your post. Yes, use the trans community as a scapegoat.

    Trans people just want to be able to live in peace as the gender they are. And many do accomplish this. All you're doing is demonizing a group of people with your vile hatred and bigotry.

    Suicidal thoughts generally stem from depression and anxiety. And many things can cause both. Including families and/or friends being unsupportive. It doesn't really matter though. We'll probably never know for sure why this person took their own life.

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  26. 8:51,
    Her 'friend' (who she only knew online of course) is certainly claiming her 'trans' status led to her suicide (because her family wasn't supportive enough of it).
    Not that I agree with the sentiments of 10:04, the 'you people are deadly' stuff.

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  27. Why are transsexualists constantly harrassing (primarily female) bloggers?

    It's very simple. Women are powerless and they know it. It's not very complicated. It's easier to harass women than the males who are responsible for 99% of the violent acts carried out against transgender. A 6' 180 lb. MTF feels safer confronting a 5'2" female than a male. I'm sorry for implying that MTFs are really men. It's all about power dynamics, and contrary to what we have been forced fed, that doesn't magically go away. As to FTMs who are on "T", they usually act like males and always side with transgender. Women aren't the ones physically assaulting transgender. Dirt has never called for any harm to come to transgender people. I have never called for any harm to come to trans individuals. If anything, it's just the opposite. They threaten women and lesbians because it's far easier than threatening men. Are transgender people victims of crime? Of course they are, but non-trans males are responsible for acts of violence against transgender individuals. I've repeatedly stated that I believe transgender should be included in hate crimes legislation along with GLB. I also think that every rape of a woman is a hate crime, but violence against women is taken for granted because it's so common place. Women just tell transgender individuals what they don't want to hear (males can never be female and females can never be male), and it's considered a vicious hate crime. We are worse than the most vile bigots.

    "Wow... You're a horrible person.

    You might be the worst case of hate speech I've ever seen."
    ***I doubt it...

    Yes, because we run a top secret organization that tries to brainwash youth. We must cover up any and every thing that makes our little organization look bad to the general public. Seriously, have you listened to yourself? You're as bad if not worse than the homophobes I read about in the news.



    Question:

    Would telling a lesbian, "hope you die in a fire" fall under the general category of homophobia? Since this person brought up homophobia, I just thought I would ask. Actually, this is probably one of the NICER comments that have been directed at the woman called dirtywhiteboi67.

    "hope you die in a fire.

    June 1, 2012 at 2:28 AM
    Dirt said...

    "With my burnt hand I will write of the nature of fire. IB

    dirt

    June 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM
    Anonymous said...

    transsexualists always seem to wamt women who disagree with then to die in a fire. why is this? i don't see them saying the same thing to men.


    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/another-frightening-article-on.html

    Here are some more examples of hate speech that are literally dripping with both misogyny and homophobia. Warning! Very graphic.

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    Of course, dirt isn't the only female who has received such vile messages. Other feminist bloggers know them all too well. If anything, I imagine some of us have PTSD from it all. Then, they have the audacity to say, "You might be the worst case of hate speech I've ever seen."

    I really do feel sorry for this person who took her, or his own life, and we can all agree that it's a tragedy, but please spare me the self-righteous lecture on hate speech and homophobia.

    Let's take a deep breath....I apologize if I upset anyone...

    MAY GOD, BUDDHA, JESUS, ALLAH, THE GREAT SPIRIT, AND ALL THE ANCIENT SOULS OF THE UNIVERSE WELCOME THIS LOST SOUL INTO THEIR LOVING ARMS...

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  28. I guess when lesbians and gays commit suicide, we should blame it on their decision to live a gay lifestyle.

    Society seriously messes with the minds of gay men and lesbians just like it screws with the minds of people who identify as transgender. I certainly recognize the discrimination and oppression felt both by gay and lesbian and transgender. Having said this, I think that there is something else going on. I believe that some people "transition" when they probably aren't ready for it. These young women think transitioning will solve all their problems, and when they realize that it doesn't, it's such a psychological let down. Whether they admit it or not, the transgender community promotes "transitioning".

    After watching an earlier youtube video by Ian Carter, this person looks depressed to me. She talks about earlier suicide attempts. This was before she "transitioned", or while she was in the middle of it. I'm sorry for using the wrong pronoun and saying "she", but to me, she seems like a sensitive and scared woman. She seems lost, depressed, so how is "transitioning" going to help?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7Yl-N49ZM

    Instead of changing their bodies to fit neatly into stereotypical gender roles, I think they need to realize on a gut level that it's not them. Society forces women to act certain ways that it says are "feminine". When I watch this video of Ian, I get the feeling that society has been screwing with her mind, telling her that girls are supposed to act, dress, and think one way. It happens to all women, but some females don't feel comfortable with it and they rebel. I think they need to realize that it's okay for females to reject traditional sex roles and still be female. I don't think anyone is telling them that. I see this time and time again when I watch the countless youtube videos of these 15 and 16 year old girls.

    Ian, if you are reading this, I don't mean to disrespect you. The problem is not you. It's society which enforces stereotypical sex roles on girls and women. I was just like you growing up, but I eventually learned to love my female body.

    For any female to truly love and accept herself is a revolutionary act in and of itself.

    It could be that a tiny percentage of females are really so "gender dysphoric" that they might need "transitioning", but I really believe that 90 to 95% of it is some form of internalized misogyny and/or lesbian phobia. What women in our culture does feel completely secure with herself. Besides, being a gender non-conforming female doesn't mean you really are a man. It just means that you reject traditional sex roles.

    At any rate, these are some of my observations.

    @Anonymous June 1, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    I think some comments were uncalled for. No human deserves to be in such emotional pain. The loss of any life is a tragedy.

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  29. @Anon 12:14 AM

    Welcome to the internet. Where people feel brave saying hateful things while hiding behind their computer screens.

    What kind of comments do you expect to receive on a website that targets a group of people with hate?

    And no, "Die in a fire." is not homophobic unless the person saying it throws in a homophobic insult or is using with the intent to "hurt" someone because of their sexual orientation. Seriously.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=die%20in%20a%20fire

    This phrase has been around a long time and has nothing to do with sexuality. It's no more homophobic than it's transphobic. You act like Dirt's the only person ever told to diaf. On the internet no less.

    Get off the internet if you can't handle strangers saying mean things. It happens all over the internet.

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  30. You are a fucking soulless asshole for labelling this person with a perjorative like "transtrender" in a post about their suicide.

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  31. @ 1:40 AM

    It could be that a tiny percentage of females are really so "gender dysphoric" that they might need "transitioning", but I really believe that 90 to 95% of it is some form of internalized misogyny and/or lesbian phobia.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but not all trans men ever considered themselves to be lesbians, and they don't all have 'internalized misogyny' either. Do you seriously think the many many trans men and women going about their normal daily lives at this very moment are just deluded/imagining it? Really? Really?

    That notion is so dumb I don't know where to start. But it would help if you stopped calling them 'female'.

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  32. Because trans is real and because transpeople are people, we do experience depression, and all the other normal human range of emotions. To suggest that we should not experience the full range is blatant transphobia. Are all gay people happy because they have come out? No. Coming out gets rid of some problems. But gay people are people and statistically will have to struggle through all the other issues in life that people have. Trans people are the same. When you finally do realize that trans people are real and human, you will be ashamed to discover that you have just been dehumanizing us the same way straight people dehumanize gay people. You are no better.
    When I was considering transitioning, an ftm friend said to me, "Just remember, it won't *make* you a man." There were so many ways to interpret this statement and I tried all of them. Now, I think I know what he meant. Hormones can provide the raw material for what society deems a "man" is, but the rest is up to the person. I've seen the full spectrum of identity post-transition. People who don't id as either male or female all the way to ftm's who have had chest and genital surgery, live stealth, and never speak the word "trans". I've never witnessed a transman trying to convince another to transition, but statistically this must have happened at some point. As a public service announcement, I've always told young ftm's who approached me that transitioning won't solve all their problems. You still have to grow and adapt and change and mature as a person. You still have to struggle to survive and deal with intimacy, love, emotional honesty, economic survival, and all the issues that come along with families of origin. I am afraid that the combination of thoughtless transitioning and the perpetuation of the idea that xx people are not capable of being anything but victims will create a future wave of transition-regretters who wish to blame anyone *but* themselves for their mistake. They have no one but themselves to blame if they did not imagine with the consequences of being male in the world 100% of the time. It's a goddamn pain in the ass to have people constantly expecting you to be macho, to know everything, to jockey for position in the pack of men, to carry and lift everything heavy, to be homophobic by default, to be wildly ambitious and make as much money as possible, to hold your self-worth in the amount of money you make, to have a perfect male body (good luck with that!),to be looked towards to make unilateral decisions, and to be blamed if something goes wrong. As much as I disliked being thought of as female, being able to blame everything on the patriarchy was a comfort. I never had to hold myself to a higher standard of accountability. I said and did things I would NEVER do now. As an example, I said many of the things you are saying about transpeople right now. My hatred (for transmen only) was palpable, and once it went beyond "feminist concerns" I knew I was struggling through something big. Once I finally dealt with my black, self-hating heart, I transitioned. I went from being a self-destructive, self-loathing, vitriolic, bitter, negative, nihilistic creep who hurt people to a person who cares about my people, my body, my community. Now, I *protect* my precious life and energy. Was this due to maturity or to transition? How can you separate the two? I don't think I would have ever had the former without the latter, but that's just me. I think many of you would do very well to stop taking people's transition personally and to deal with your own shit. You are wasting your energy.

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  33. Let's be reasonable, shall we? If you are not beyond reason, that is. I don't think transpeople run around telling others they are trans ALL the time. I know that in my community it is *very* poorly looked upon to do so. I have not even heard of it happening once where I live, but I suppose it is statistically probable. But, even when I have been approached by apparent butches who are in the middle of an identity crisis, I refrain from speaking to anyone's experience but my own-and I do that only when pushed. Anyway, it's not fucking easy to walk around being a trigger for other people's pain. Especially when it's repressed pain. That is the very reason why repressed homosexuals are often the most violent towards gays. That shit is fucking scary.

    So....when Dirt pops up and floats all these incredibly damaging lies about how transmen are child molesters, rapists, that our partners are child molesters, and that we are violent in general....you gotta wonder exactly what's going on with her. Mentally. Because celebrating women and butches and gender-nonconformity has ZERO to do with lies about and hatred towards transmen. It's almost like she's drawing us a map of her insecurities, as some of the other hateful commenters here also do. Blog posts about celebrating butchness would actually do so much more to create space for women to choose not to transition. Let's face it-transition happens. It's "out there" already. The train has left the station.Now people actually have the choice to identify their *own* gender. That's viewed as progress, like it or not. Agree with it or not. People generally want MORE freedom not less. And they need *good* role models. Coming to this website, it sure does seem to any intuitive person, that Dirt's cause must *not* be very good or strong or just. She would not have to rely on the FUCKING crazy accusations she makes if transmen were actually all that bad or misguided or whatever. We are not. We are not *anything* together, except trans. This shit is steeped in anger and I believe it has caused some obsessive/paranoid behavior in Dirt. I could see the rational response being, " Oh Dirt is a repressed transman." Personally, I'm glad not to count her amongst our numbers. But I don't think she's doing your team any favors either. A couple of dykes may have come here to confirm their pre-existing hatred and judgement of transmen, but that only displays their intrinsic nastiness. What butches and gender-nonconforming females really need, I believe, are role models who rise above. Dirt makes it appear to the world that butches are threatened by transmen. I know that's not true for butches everywhere. They still need support, celebration, confirmation, love, tenderness, and acceptance. Think you can teach love using hate? That sure does seem like trying to dismantle the master's house with the masters's tools to me.

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  34. @ 2:07 PM and 2:11 PM

    Well said, both of you! Shame Dirt and her cronies won't listen.

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  35. @So much hatred in your post. Yes, use the trans community as a scapegoat.

    Yawn. It is not hate it is reality. Do I hate the stranger down the street that shoot himself, no. I just did not know him and don’t care. That’s called Reality. And another reality is that “trans” is part of a mosaic of mental illness. The trans community claims that it is “like a birth defect” even though ever bit of science says that there is zero evidence to support that. So yes the Trans community is to blame and that is not scapegoating. You seriously think sane functional people are going to take the blame—not likely. Trans cause people to not getting treating for mental illness because then they will have to admit what they have is psychological and them protecting the delusion will cause people to kill themselves. When enough do then there will be a change. The med community will only support this as long as it is profitable and the mentally ill do not have a great track record for keeping jobs and paying bills.

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  36. @Anon 5:41 PM

    "Trans cause people to not getting treating for mental illness because then they will have to admit what they have is psychological"

    Funny. If I recall, didn't homosexuality use to be in the dsm? It was a stereotype that all gays and lesbians were "mentally ill" or deluded.

    Of course, there's scientific evidence now, and they've since removed it from the dsm.

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  37. @ Of course, there's scientific evidence now, and they've since removed it from the dsm." Hahaha, into everyones life a little rain must fall. 1.Faulty analogy. Just like every analogy trans uses to defend the delusion and the illness. Trans express their delusion constantly and they themselves claim the worst depression ever known to humanity, and threaten suicide. Gays all through history have by and large functioned in society. Trans on the other hand are howling when they are not threating to attack real women or being attention seeking manipulative and boy is it boring already--threatening suicide. They rape, they murder at a higher rate than most other populations because being trans is just like that—and then used as a
    defense in court=mental illness. Historically the gay male was never as violent, and never had the extensive criminal and anti social behaviors that M2T have—really you should educate yourself. Nice try. Wanna compare to blacks and civil rights next and then say it like a birth defect—come on more silly analogies. It is anti-social. Can’t cross dress that up, no way, no how. Oh re mental issues 2. Wrong again Keep up with things.
    Newsflash --the NIMH has trashed the DSM V. It is now irrelevant, and will not be used as a clinical guide--(chortle)bummer. Back to the drawing board--mental illness--sick sick sick--NIMH hahah.

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  38. Your own posts say a lot about yourself. Who are you really trying to convince anyways?

    Doesn't change the fact that society believed those among the LGB as little more than delusional, mentally ill or depraved. And now you are doing the exact same towards those within the trans community. Right or wrong, if you can't even admit that then you have problems.

    "Trans express their delusion constantly and they themselves claim the worst depression ever known to humanity, and threaten suicide. Gays all through history have by and large functioned in society"

    I don't know where you heard this or got your facts, but I've heard of nothing like this. If you want to give me a link to this supposed higher rate of rape and murder, then by all means.

    As far as threatening women... are you referring to the hate messages dirt gets? I don't know what to tell you besides get the fuck off the internet. People, hiding behind their computer screens will say all kinds of things because of anonymity. Otherwise, again, give me a source.

    Regardless, the actions of a few bad apples doesn't mean that the entire group of trans people are these evil beings. Most trans people just want to live normal lives.

    "Trans on the other hand are howling when they are not threating to attack real women or being attention seeking manipulative and boy is it boring already--threatening suicide. They rape, they murder at a higher rate than most other populations because being trans is just like that—and then used as a "

    Yes, because no gay person has ever taken their own life or threatened suicide. There have been many who have taken their lives. That's why we have the 'it gets better' project. Because people, very similar to you, target them and bully them.

    Those within the LGBT have a higher rate of suicide in general because of lack of understanding from society.

    I don't know why I'm even bothering replying to you though. There's no changing your mind. You'll never stop and think about what you're doing or saying. How your actions are no different than someone else hating on another group of people.

    That would take too much thought and empathy I'd imagine.

    And you would rather live in a delusion of your own.

    Have a nice day.

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  39. And no, "Die in a fire." is not homophobic unless the person saying it throws in a homophobic insult or is using with the intent to "hurt" someone because of their sexual orientation. Seriously.


    As far as threatening women... are you referring to the hate messages dirt gets? I don't know what to tell you besides get the fuck off the internet.

    Threaten any woman who doesn't agree with them...Then, turn around and say that they are the MOST oppressed people in the whole world....join forces with rabid anti-feminist MRAs (men's rights advocates) to intentionally intimidate uppity feminist....

    we know the general pattern...


    JANUARY 2013

    “Jonathan Reid “Aeryn” Fulton (aka Aerynxv aka aeryn rebeka fulton aka aeryn reid aka aeryn rebeka fulton-chesnavich)

    “EPIC ass-whipping coming your way Nicky. You are sooooo screwed. Shall I meet you at dunkin donuts? I’ll just watch your twitter and see where you are. This is going to be fun. It’s been a long time in coming. BTW I have it on good authority Cathy Brennan will have a terrible accident at this year’s dyke march. THAT”S been a long time coming to. I want your ipod as a trophy. I will get it. See you soon, sweetumz!

    DIAF. All radical feminists will pay a terrible price. 2013 is going to be apocalyptic. We are so done with words. “Making a list, checking it twice, bringing some comeuppance wont that be nice? Planting radfems deep in the ground”.

    If I threaten to eviserate Gallus Mag, and she presses charges, under USA law I have the right to face my accuser. Thus, I will know her identity. Autumn Sandeen is offering $10k for that info.

    This year we are taking Michfest down. 2013 is the year of transequality. Suck it, Brennan! See you at the dyke march.

    I want you all to realize, I’m; the ultimate Libertarian. If you are cool with me, I’m cool with you. IF NOT, LEAVE ME and MINE alone, or I will harm you. Violence is always an option, and I have studied to dispense violence all my life.

    We trans womyn have to battle for our very right to exist and transition against hordes of Fascist JaniceRaymondiod lesbian bulldyke 2nd wave radfems. We do NOT appreciate self-loathing little boyz taking up for the trans-exterminationist diesel dyke crowd. If you come to terms with taking a man as your ex partner, you too can avoid chasing nasty cis-woman coochie and free yourself from cis-woman mind-fuckkery!”

    I think I may go to this Michfest thing, just for the sake of posting all kinds of revealing photos of the local deichs, in various states of dress, ALL OVER THE INTERWEBS….No building bridges here, just pure, HONEST, and unadulterated hatred and intolerance for my ideological blood-enemies.”

    http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/aerynxv/

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  40. "And no, "Die in a fire." is not homophobic unless the person saying it throws in a homophobic insult or is using with the intent to "hurt" someone because of their sexual orientation. Seriously."

    "As far as threatening women... are you referring to the hate messages dirt gets? I don't know what to tell you besides get the fuck off the internet."


    Transgender activist Anthony Casebeer was caught making jokes about bashing in the head of a lesbian with a baseball bat. As I understand it, he later resigned from some GLBT organization for these comments.

    “Pimp slap is not enough here: a nice home run swing to the head with a 38-oz Louisville Slugger is more in order. There’s no brains in her head to destroy to start with. It’s personal, and if I ever saw her in my windshield, I’ll be wiping blood off my white Buick. But I won’t be using the brakes.”.

    http://gendertrender.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/monica-violence-1.jpg

    Of course, the lesbian known as dirtywhiteboi67 has received numerous threats from transgender, particularly transmen. *Warning! This is very graphic.

    “…..You are such a weak little old hag of a bitch. Get raped by a bunch of niggers you old crow.”

    “You made this story up you fucking ugly OVER-THE-HILL sagging tits, fat ass ugly repulsive CUNT. You’re just jealous that you’re OLD AS HELL and can NEVER EVER transition successfully the way us young dudes do! We are the men you can never, ever be. Medical science, nanotechnology and genetic engineering is advancing in ways your tiny female, estrogen-dominant gossipy female brain can NEVER imagine. CUNT. And being 25 I will reap the benefits and you will just be a corpse. You’re not even masculine, this shit you’re doing here is totally female…gossipy manipulative psychological warfare. Why don’t you take your fat, over-sized, child-bearing hips sagging cottage cheese ass back in the kitchen and cook your disgusting wrinkled, obese crew-cut trainwreck you call a “girlfriend” another Swanson dinner you useless OLD HAG. KNOW YOUR PLACE and stop treading on us. Stupid useless cunt. No wonder there is so much misogyny…it’s because of bitches like you. Suck a fat one and get AIDS”.

    SOURCE:

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    Here is a can of “Rid Fem” spray that “Kills Rad fems Instantly” by “Trans Activists…A Family Company”

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3042989746089&set=a.1030604477715.2007291.1003456955&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=like&theater

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  41. As far as threatening women... are you referring to the hate messages dirt gets? I don't know what to tell you besides get the fuck off the internet."

    Below are other threats directed towards “rad fems” and feminists

    dastardlyinfection:

    “It’s probably for the best that I don’t go to feminist events

    I have a tendency to flail my fists at people’s faces when in close proximity to shitty feminists”

    Doldrumsinferno:

    “Me too…it’s really really fucking frustrating”

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/

    “If I had any superpower I’d have the power to punch people through computer screens

    Within a week there’d be no more radical feminism.”

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/

    “Brennan, go fuck yourself with a rusted chainsaw. Better cover it in various toxins too, I hear that those enhance the experience.”

    http://genderbitch.tumblr.com/post/26227759103/fuc…

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/2

    “sometimes i get so irritated by people who try to belittle me for being trans. especially women. the thing that gets me is that they’re always disgusting looking, or you know, just plain ugly.

    the only thought that ever comes to my mind is “i may have a dick, but i make a hotter woman than you do. so what exactly does that make you?”

    but, instead, i remain calm. i laugh in their face, or make a joke out of them in some other way. you know, real sly-like. i act like it doesn’t bother me that a neanderthal of a woman is trying to lessen my worth, or my femininity. because let’s be honest… what do they know about any of that anyways?

    regardless, it still takes every fiber of my being not to bash them in their putrid face with a brick.”

    http://violenttransarchives.tumblr.com/page/2

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  42. @ Your own posts say a lot about yourself. Who are you really trying to convince anyways? 

    Actually that is what I do—convince state reps that ‘gender” is a dangerous concept to women and kids and I am pretty good at what I do in the states I do it in. So I am sure my posts speak volumes—they say I know what I am talking about and have heard all the nonsense and not going to fall for all the manipulations. The operative difference which is not to be understated is I am a functioning member of society—education, job, family, social circle, hobbies—babies, puppies, gerbils—you know a life. And this positions me to at lest have an effect. Most rational people agree trans can’t on one hand claim and threaten suicide and then say they are not very mentally ill. They can’t say SRS prevents suicide when the long term studies contradict that. Sure gays have committed suicide but the difference is they do not live in a delusional state that causes autoerotic compulsive behavior 24/7. They don’t attack and rape and kill women and children. Gays are a herd of little lambs compared to the heterosexual men in a skirt and a wig. And trans they can’t keep their stuff together for long enough to convince people of much. They decompensate fast. Outside the Queer Studies Departments and a few enclaves. People are realizing—that autogynephila has its downsides. You are correct the phony baloney Trans dishes I am not buying. Which is not say I don’t buy real science but we both know there is not going to be any—no “female brain” not “birth defect” no “just like “intersexed” It will be instead—the ragging hard on from himself in women’s clothes—and that delusion is not going to win the hearts of America for long. In the mean time instead of being honest, because these guys know when they have a hard on they use kids and girls to try to justify themselves and win public sympathy. Mental illness can only go on for a limited time—it burns itself out.

    Google state of CA—Transgender Prisoner Study done by University of CA. And there also about 30 men claiming to be women currently serving time for rapping and murdering women and children—the death toll far exceeds how many trans are killed a year. So point by point we interject reality. All compiled in neat little PDFs for easy reading and reference. In keeping with not “misgendering” anyone several states list arrests and convictions by male, female and trans—anti-social crimes, not floating a bad check. I compile the lists for state reps. In order to ensure that the states that have not passed laws that put women and girls in danger remain safe. The lives Trans destroy will be their own--and that sad but men are destructive and men with sexual compulsions are very destructive.

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  43. "I don't know where you heard this or got your facts, but I've heard of nothing like this. If you want to give me a link to this supposed higher rate of rape and murder, then by all means. "

    We went over this a hundred times in this blog. I can trot out hundreds of actual crime statistics that show that males are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. It's something like 90%.

    Males committed the vast majority of homicides in the United States at that time, representing 90% of the total number of offenders.

    Men commit violent crimes more than three times as often as women [source: United States Department of Justice].

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus0702.pdf

    Do these statistics change because a biological male identifies as transgender, cross dresses, or "transitions? I'm talking about biological males not "transmen" who are really biological females. NOTHING THAT I'VE READ HAS EVER CONVINCED ME THAT IT DOES. I do NOT think trans identified biological males are any more prone to violence than other males, but they are still male. When women point this out, we are threatened and branded "transphobes". Transgender males have murdered and raped women and molested children. The reason that this has been brought up on this and other blogs is because many of these trans identified males expect access to women's restrooms and women's locker rooms. Richard (Sherri) Masbruch tied two women up, and sadistically shocked them with an electrical wire before raping them. When he was in prison, he self mutilated his own penis and had to have it removed. At any rate, they sent HIM to a women's prison in California. When women complain bitterly about this insane and utter misogyny, we are branded "transphobes". Ronny Darnell who is suing the state he is incarcerated in for "gender therapy" and hormones repeatedly raped a 13 year old girl.

    http://enidnews.com/localnews/x503853299/Convict-wants-Oklahoma-to-pay-part-of-sex-change

    As to sex crimes, males are more likely to be registered sex offenders than females.

    http://www.csom.org/pubs/female_sex_offenders_brief.pdf

    The Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice states,

    March 2007

    Specifically, arrests of women represent only 1% of all adult arrests for forcible rape and 6% of all adult arrests for other sex offenses.

    Census and Caseload Data from Criminal and Juvenile Justice Agencies

    In contrast to the approximately 140,000 men incarcerated in prisons nationwide for sex crimes, only 1,500 women are estimated to be imprisoned for these offenses (Harrison & Beck, 2005). They represent only 1% of all adults incarcerated for sex offenses, and 2% of all females in prison.

    In contrast to the burgeoning body of literature describing male sex offenders, the research on female sex offenders is considerably under-developed. Much of what exists is purely descriptive in nature and tends to be based on small samples of women and adolescent girls in clinical settings, making it impossible to draw reliable inferences about any defining characteristics, risk factors, or offense dynamics of female sex offenders as a whole. "

    http://www.csom.org/pubs/female_sex_offenders_brief.pd

    Again, I don't think transgender males are any better or worse than non-trans males as far as crime is concerned, but they are still male. Yes, transgender males or MTFs are also victims of crime, but it's other males who are the perpetrators.

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  44. @June 2, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    brilliant....

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  45. I can send you a list of lesbian pedophiles if you like. I've been compiling it and, lemme tell you, it kinda messes with your head seeing these sick lesbian fucks in the news all the time. Not to mention plain old lesbian rape and physical abuse of partners. It gets underreported because no one takes it seriously and everyone's focussed on men, so these sick lesbian fucks have easy access to my kids and yours. No, having a vagina does not make you a safe person.

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  46. I can send you a list of lesbian pedophiles if you like.

    If I actually listed all the MALE pedophiles and rapists in the U.S., THERE WOULDN'T BE ROOM ON THIS BLOG TO LIST THEM ALL. I would have to put them all in one HUGE .pdf file and post them on some website.

    Scroll up a bit and look at the crime statistics from the Center for Sex Offender Management from the U.S. Department of Justice

    Because they are women, lesbians are far MORE likely to be victims of rape and sexual assault than perpetrators. All women have been raped and sexually assaulted. This includes lesbian and bisexual women.

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  47. Get this, ladies.

    Trans people exist, without your permission. They're going to continue to exist. they're gradually gaining understanding and acceptance by the wider society, despite your best efforts. They're already mostly living their lives among you, and you have no idea who they are, or where.

    And I'm going to sit back and laugh while you seethe and froth about it.

    Also, @ All women have been raped and sexually assaulted.

    No. They have not. Stop lying.

    And if you belittle and insult and disrespect, and lie about trans people day in, day out, why are you surprised when some of them hate you and say unpleasant things back? You think lesbians don't say vile and disgusting shit about trans people?

    http://theterfs.com/2013/03/02/terf-quotes/

    "WhiteTiger: If we’re going that road, why not just cull boy babies for awhile? Re-establish a sane balance. Then we can start selective breeding programs for donor males… [To cull means to reduce the population of by selective slaughter.]"

    If you think murder is wrong, how come killing boy babies is somehow magically right when women want to do it?

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  48. So glad you brought that up. The fact is that the “lesbians” that are pedophiles 99.9 % happen to be male—XY chromosomes and this is made very clear to any and all I present to. So they are transgender—pedophiles not lesbian. That is exactly how the courts record it. Clearly stated in all court documents. So I really don’t know what in the world the blather is about
    @ Get This Ladies.

    Well no sir, perhaps you have not understood. Certainly men suffering from autogynaphila exist and will continue to do so. And this is again a mental illness. Nobody is saying such men do not exist or implied that in anyway shape or form. We are simply saying that men that get aroused from women’s clothes are men not women. And there is no science to prove us wrong—again zero science . We are well within our rights to say that we believe our own healthy mind over a deluded mind that has sexual preoccupation with the trapping of the human female.

    As for wider society accepting. In some circles there is a kind of curiosity with gender bending. It does not last long—people outgrow it. At any rate what I am seeing is a shift. There is so much information out there now and really it is not under the control of autogynphic men. We are making an organized and concerted effort to keep womens spaces safe for women and girls by keeping males XY people out of these spaces. The medical community is agreeing and supporting us as is law enforcement. There are at least seven letters from people at various Universities stating—gender disphoria is a mental illness. And I suspect the fact that the DSM V is in the trash can now is because several people at NIHM wrote the letters and know what’s what.—real research is showing no such thing as Trans. For now keep the delusion going—I give it seven years and will go down in history with other hoax diagnoses. Hate us if you must. I am not a lesbian I am a married heterosexual women, XX. And you are kidding yourself if you think women like me and my PTA friends want men in spaces with our six year old daughters—So it does not matter if any M2T ever heard of any of the facts we have heard them. We make sure as many people as possible are made aware—call us liar, bitches, haters—so what? In the final analysis M2T rape and murder women and children. And no state rep is going to vote for men to have access to women safe spaces. We have taken this through three states so far. You can think we are haters but the people we speak with don’t and you can’t convince them otherwise because it is simply not true. We are just protecting women and children from dangerous men. That is what women have done through history. But by all means keep rallying behind rapists and murders as part of the Trans cause—because it only helps ours

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  49. @ 7:43 AM

    You don't know how stupid and bigoted and ignorant you sound, do you? All you see is what you want to see, not what's actually there - trans men and women out in the community living their lives all round you, despite your hate and misinformation.

    Autogynephilia doesn't exist. It was pretty much inverted by Ray (Roy? can't remember now) Blanchard, and it's discredited nonsense. There is no such thing as an 'M2T', you should stop believing the garbage written in the Transsexual Empire. The vast majority of trans women live as women, among other women, and you wouldn't know them for anything else.

    Saying a whole class of human beings are rapists and perverts and murderers for the actions of a tiny handful? Is disgusting. Deeply, deeply disgusting. You should feel shame for your ugly bigotry. But then, sadly, America is overrun by such as you at the moment, which is a huge irony for a country which calls itself the land of the free.

    Fortunately, I live in a much more sensible country.

    There's a little six year old trans girl in your country right now, living as a girl. Is she a rapist? A murderer? Do you want to peer at her genitals when she goes to the toilet so you can point and laugh and call her a raping monster? Because that's what your prejudice boils down to. Demonizing children.

    Most trans women have normal healthy relationships with men or women, much as you'd love to think otherwise. Just as most trans men do. The vast majority of trans men and trans women are normal, ordinary law-abiding people who don't deserve the treatment they get from such as you.

    And if you think you're mocking me by calling me 'sir' think again - I am not a trans woman. I'm genderqueer. I exist, and you can't make me not exist by your bigotry, however hard you try. I hope that eats you up forever. Meanwhile, us trans people will be over here getting on with our lives while you worry about where somebody pees.

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  50. Here, haters, read a story about trans woman as they really are, not the made-up demons in your head:

    "Ayla Holdom is a search and rescue pilot in the Royal Air Force. When she began her gender transition, she was supported by friends and family and by her employer. Yet she, like teacher Lucy Meadows, who killed herself in March, has had to endure articles full of hurt and spite. She argues for all transgender people to be treated with the dignity they deserve"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jun/02/raf-gender-transition-media

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  51. @ You don't know how stupid and bigoted

    And you don’t know how threatening you sound, sir. You think you are going to call me a bigot and I am going to cower and feel some shame because women are supposed to be nice. Reality is not bigoted. Science, biology is not bigoted. Let’s take racism for example—the south in the 50’s and 60’s. The fact is that blacks rarely committed crimes against whites. This can be proved. It was an empty claim made by racists. The exact opposite is the case now. Trans M2T have (and this is documented) these guys are in jail, have a higher rate of violence than even the male population at large.

    I know the whole myth of passing and nobody knows, that 6”4 guy in a dress is a guy—but thousands just blend right in. Sure, imagine women as stupid or blind. Blanchard is doing fine, as is Lawernce et al and Bailey and Alice Duger. And there is a new generation coming up. The Israelis are breaking some real scientific ground. And this is science—not “ever since I was three I knew I loved pink.”

    Oh “gender queer” how hip and you imagine that makes you what? Smart, radical, interesting, (eye roll). You are a conformist a herd thinker. If you are under 25 I hope you will grow up. If not then it doesn’t age well—not attractive at all—looks 50 at 30. Yes little boy with pink hair—adorable. The parents are sick and that little poster kid will snap back to bite the movement like a viper. And no, that boy should not be in girls’ spaces. Why? Because 200 females in the school are just as important as his little penis male privilege. And he is male and does have a penis. But use him—destroy his life—that is what males do, sir. And be sick and hypocritical enough to say I am hurting him—no that would be trans that will cut his penis off, not me. But everyone is doing it, so cool we be soo cool. In not too long he will no doubt be on the talk show circuit saying how he was used and manipulated. Yes the word of the future—detransition. Brace yourself it will be big and loud.

    Most trans are delusional narcissistic. Now some do have normal lives. In fact 3 are helping us, supporting us and writing on our behalf. Because they agree and state—most are auto erotic cross dressers and a danger. And they accept even post SRS they are not women and women need their own spaces. I never said a whole class. I said that they rape and murder at a higher rate than men on average. Not much higher, but higher nevertheless. And you know why women have safe spaces—because men are violent. So no. No shame. Try the tactic on someone else-- men trying to shame women for non-compliance does not work on me. I do not care what men want or what they say or demand of women. And as the facts are out more and more the cry of bigot phobic whatever crap that’s dishing will work on fewer and fewer people. It is not peeing—it is dorms, hospital rooms, homeless shelters, prisons, and women’s half way houses. In fact rarely mention the bathroom— focus on the other spaces. Somehow that just works better and gets the point across. I BTW do not treat anyone badly—I treat men as men and women as women. And that is based on my perception because I trust those. People get to define their own reality but they don’t get to impose it on others. And as it is all based on a “theory” I have the right to reject the theirs and explain to others why it is only a theory. The only time I would treat a man badly would be if he came into my space. And in America women have a legal right to defend themselves from a “perceived threat.” And most would think man in the ladies falls into that category. At anyrate—this is going placed right next to the Nazi sex change experiments in future history books. Gotta go nurse the baby now.

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  52. This post has nothing whatsoever to do with autogynephiles, either keep your comment on topic or it will be removed.

    dirt

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  53. oh, keep it on the topic, dirt??? how about, you are making fun of a child that killed themselves. that is corrupt and you need to work that out in your head. i believe that women can do anything a man can do and that gender shouldn't be the decipher in which is the dominant sex. if anything i think girls are tougher, if you kick a guy in the balls he's going down. woman are strong and beautiful creatures. and without woman there would be no transgender children. without men there would be no transgender children. guess what... cisgendered females and males make them. so get over your little cult that you have going on, dirt. you think that you're intelligent with your posts and im not scared to post my name on this blog. if you use any of my pictures or youtube name i WILL have you arrested and deemed a dangerous woman, behind bars. this is not a "threat" this is only truth which is welcomed here because that's what your blog is about, right? about "truth"??

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  54. Dirt FYI--last post--fB under Austin claims to be trying to shut this Blog down for hate speech--or being mean and offensive.

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  55. Thanks for the heads up Anon. But "hate speech" requires hate. The only hate is the homophobic response by the male medical machine called "transition".

    dirt

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  56. LH,if you do not support the dismantling of patriarchy and the war against misogyny, this blog isnt for you hun.

    dirt

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  57. WhiteTiger: If we’re going that road, why not just cull boy babies for awhile? Re-establish a sane balance. Then we can start selective breeding programs for donor males… [To cull means to reduce the population of by selective slaughter.]"

    If you think murder is wrong, how come killing boy babies is somehow magically right when women want to do it?


    I don't know anything about this person. HOWEVER, THINKING IS NOT THE SAME AS ACTULLY DOING IT. ACCORDING TO THE WELL RESEARCHED BOOK, "UNNATURAL SELECTION: CHOOSING BOYS OVER GIRLS" THERE ARE 163 MILLION MISSING GIRLS FROM CHINA AND INDIA. THINK ABOUT THIS VERY CAREFULLY. 163 MILLION MISSIING GIRLS...SEX SELECTIVE ABORTIONS GOING ON FOR DECADES...PROBABLY STILL GOING ON FOR ALL WE KNOW.

    Perhaps this person just read Mara Hvistendahl's book and said the first thing that popped into his or her mind. I'VE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT ANY KIND OF SEX SELECTION IS ABHORRENT. I CONDEMN THE PRACTICE OF SEX SELECTION. I FIND IT REPUGNANT.

    Of course, the transgender community probably never heard of the 163 million missing girls because if it has to do with females or feminism, they aren't interested.

    BY THE WAY, THE PROCESS OF FTM (FEMALE TO MALE) "TRANSITIIONING" ERASES FEMALE IDENTITY. So, please don't feel so self-righteous. The transgender community is responsible for actually erasing female identity. Then, it gets so self-righteous about sex selection. They promote puberty suppressing drugs for 12 and 13 year old child. In reality, puberty suppression could be construed as the de-sexing of human beings.

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  58. you're right anon and dirt, yes i know you think you're right about everything, but your posts are offensive and sexist. which counts as hate speach and bullying. don't know if you know this, but there are laws against cyber bullying which exactly what this blog is about. go ahead and take a look at my facebook. go ahead and take a look at the page that i run. its called visibility and its a page that was created to stand up to bullies and make this world a more peaceful place. you are disrupting the peace and causing chaos to people that are just trying to live their life. and also, ftm's might be earasing female identity OF THEIR OWN , but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity. you lose a sister and gain a brother. i get that you all are extreme feminists, but you will NOT get away with bullying young kids and making chaos that is unnecessary to begin with. sorry, dirt.

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  59. and all of you do hate. on men. you are extremely sexist and its not right. why should anybody like you guys? you want a world full of women. without men, there would be no women. just saying.

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  60. That secound vid called "I care" is dramatic and depressing. What a weirdo who made that vid covering his head and lecturing about suicide prevention.

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  61. LH
    I see no “making fun” do you have a specific quote? You may have miss read. At any rate there is such a thing as freedom of expression and freedom of speech. Nothing on here even falls remotely near the legal definition of “hate speech.”

    Wrong: “mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity. you lose a sister and gain a brother. “

    M2T are men demanding women honor their delusion—see no theory, just biology—XY is male and they are not “intersexed” so they can’t claim that any more than a white person can claim to be black because “they feel black in the brain.” How offensive and silly that would sound, Men not woman gain—there are no gains for women. Anyone who asserts differently has motives for doing so those should be identified and questioned. Transgender theory is not some special protected doctrine—people are free to say it is a load of nonsense. People can be critical—no thought police to enforce ideologies, just like people can say the father son and Holy Ghost are a load of crap. Just because someone believes something does not mean other people can’t reject it, criticizes it. Trans is a dangerous cultural phenomenon, related to a whole host of issues. By and large it is a male power trip that seeks to damage women. The medical community has its own reasons, non-based in science. It is a dx that is an easy quick convenient cash cow and has gained some traction because it is trendy. We are after all a superficial culture that moves from fad to fad. Much like “multiple personality disorder” in 1960—now we know many of those people were coached by misguided therapists. Along a similar line there was no such thing as Female Hysteria, which is an even earlier example. No such ailment. Years ago Women used to be diagnosed with frequently. “Trans” will be another example—it is the dx du jour. And as just a theory. You can’t force people to bend to your will or accept a because a theory is only a belief system—nothing more, nothing less. Think of it like this, you can’t force people to be Christian or Hindu, or to accept your view of the world. No has to believe in “trans anything” until it moves out of the realm of theory and into science—which is not likely. I can say with the same authority it is a form of obsessive compulsive because there is nothing to prove me wrong. Unlike strep throat—I can’t say that it the result of lying in the sun because there is a science that shows it comes from bacteria.

    Dirt is doing an amazing job here of showing and documenting a set of dangerous ideas to women and children. And is appreciated for doing so and within her rights. You might want to realize that we have The First Amendment that enables citizens to express their thoughts and beliefs in a free society. And it includes “freedom speech and expression” Dirt has not yelled “fire “in a crowed theater. She has made not threats. You don’t like it doesn’t read. Transtrender is not some special situation with more rights; Speech on the Internet receives the highest first amendment protection. Also You Tube is fair game to anyone—don’t like that fact then don’t post there. People can accept only biological sex and call men, men and women, women that’s not discrimination or hate. Discrimination has to do with job, housing, medical care and education. So a private person writing or speaking outside of a work situation or an educational or medical can use whatever pronoun they deem accurate. I do not see one place where Dirt made fun of a suicide here. None of her posts make light of violence or glorified or promote it. And it is not against the law to disagree with the entire notion of “transgender” and to say—a manipulative male-based movement devised to empower men more and to damage women. Trans is misogynist from start to finish. And women protecting themselves and others from it is not “man hating” I do not think Dirt is asking you to like her--she is asking you to think. Dirt may save some lives.

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  62. Trans people exist. They need neither your permission nor your belief to exist. They have the right to live their lives unmolested and unharrassed by narrowminded 'females' like you, and they going to go right on existing while you froth and scream about non-existent threats to your precious womanhood.

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  63. @Trans people exist


    Men exist and women exist. And women saying we will not call a man a woman is not molesting or harassing (only a man would be even fool enough to think that). nor is saying there are women only spaces. Yes womanhood is precious, congratulations you got it. No one but you is frothing.

    Certainly, I agree 100% men do not need anyones permission to take artificial hormones or undergo surgical procedures that remove their males genitals, any more than I need their permission to become pregnant or end a pregnancy. But a facelift does not change a persons chronological and anymore than cosmetic surgery changes their biological sex. They are simply men without genitals and that is not a women. Women have genitals, and experience. Reality matters.

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  64. Who said I was male-bodied? Only you. You can't imagine that anyone but a male-bodied person would stand up for the people you're attacking (and yes, you are attacking them, you're treating them with utter contempt just for daring to exist outside your narrow box)

    And no, you're the ones posting shit on the internet about a class of people who are frequently persecuted merely for wanting to be what they are.

    Shame on you. You're so obsessed with trans people you can't see us for anything but freaks, yet you are the freaks, for your narrow ugly minds. When you look at trans people you don't see a human being at all, do you, just a 'male'. So of course they've got to be violent and horrible.

    Shame on you.

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  65. ...but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.

    SO, FEMALE IDENTITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS ARTIFICALLY CREATED THROUGH SYNTHETICALLY PRODUCED HORMONES AND EXTENSIVE PLASTIC SURGERY ON ONE'S GENITALS?

    but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.

    WHOSE FEMALE IDENTITY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE MALE DEFINITION OF FEMININITY. FEMALES EXIST (XX) AND WE GET TO DEFINE OURSELVES.

    but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.

    WHY NOT JUST CREATE FEMALES IN A LABORATORY?

    but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.


    BIOLOGICAL MALES GET TO DEFINE WHO IS AND ISN'T A WOMAN. UNLIKE OTHER HISTORICALLY OPPRESSED ETHNIC AND RACIAL GROUPS, WOMEN ARE NOT GRANTED THE RIGHT TO DEFINE THEMSELVES.

    but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.

    MEN CREATING WOMEN...SOUNDS LIKE THE OLD MOVIE THE STEPFORD WIVES.

    but the mtf's which are transitioning to women are creating female identity.

    YOU ARE NOT CREATING FEMALE IDENTITY....YOU ARE SHAMELESSLY APPROPRIATING OR CO-OPTING IT.....




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  66. @When you look at trans people you don't see a human being at all, do you, just a 'male'. So of course they've got to be violent and horrible.

    We see male human--MALE is human. IT is not WOMAN. Try to wrap you mind around that. We do not have a delusion and we do not have to honor others peoples. Saying a man is a man is not hate just reality. If you think it is hate then you live a very sheltered life. Women feel no shame because they can tell the difference between a man and a woman. And demanding women pretend a man is a woman because that is what a man wants is misogyny--let them pay someone to role play--Women are not their whores. And just a mind game men play. Seriously—what next shame for being able to tell blue from red—You state “wanting to be” So there you admitted they are men that want to be women.
    Women are women no “want” involved in that. It is a biological fact not a psychological pathological need that. Believing a delusion does not make anyone a “good person” if fact it makes people not good because these people do not get the help they. While it may seem hip and cool and people can think they are so noble and supportive—reality will hit. More and more evidence is coming out. So don’t feel so noble or self righteous—you and people who bought this will be drowning in real shame because the delusion is dangerous. People in the medical community and experts that do not make buckets of money on this are starting to state the whole “gender identity” is a mental illness. The DSM V has been just thrown out and NIMH will base things on science. Wake up. It is your obsession not ours—we are just interested in keeping women and kids safe and give the rate of violence committed and threatened by Trantrender. You might want to look up those horrifying stats—Dr. Joseph Berger has issued a statement saying that from a medical and scientific perspective there is no such thing as a "transgendered" person, and that terms such as “gender expression” and “gender identity" used in the bill are at the very least ambiguous, and are more an emotional appeal than a statement of scientific fact.
    Berger, who is a consulting psychiatrist in Toronto and whose list of credentials establishes him as an expert in the field of mental illness, stated that people who identify themselves as "transgendered" are psychotic or simply unhappy, and pointed out that hormone therapy and surgery are not appropriate treatments for psychosis or unhappiness.
    "From a scientific perspective, let me clarify what ‘transgendered’ actually means," Dr. Berger said, adding, "I am speaking now about the scientific perspective – and not any political lobbying position that may be proposed by any group, medical or non-medical."
    "‘Transgendered’ are people who claim that they really are or wish to be people of the sex opposite to which they were born, or to which their chromosomal configuration attests," Dr. Berger stated.
    "Some times, some of these people have claimed that they are ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ or alternatively ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’."
    "The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery," Dr. Berger stated.

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  67. Funny how the Male Medical Machine suddenly becomes trustworthy when it supports your arguments, isn't it? Sorry, but you're going to have to do better than that.

    Trans people are here to stay, whether you like it or not. You can post your toxic transphobic hate screeds at Gendertrender and Pretendbian as much as you like, it won't make any difference to the vast majority of law-abiding transpeople getting on with their lives, except to cause offence to them and their families and friends

    Oh, and by the way, that shit about exposed penises in the shower at Michfest, in a comment on the most recent post? - that was a trans man, FAAB, female-bodied, one of the so-called deluded girls. If you people are going to be insulting, at least get your facts right.

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  68. Anonymous 9:36 you are being completely ridiculous. Doctor Berger had no right speaking about something that isn't his specialty and goes against the DSM. The next DSM is being released this year, so I don't know how you think its being thrown out. And besides, the British govt. says its not a mental illness. Some people have a sex\gender mismatch just like some people love the same sex.

    You'll notice that Ottawa didn't pay Dr. Berger any notice. They ignored his hate speech, did the right and Canadian way and passed the gender identity protection law despite the fruity fundamentalists' claims.

    Just like they didn't let homophobic Christians prevent them from passing gay marriage. That's the thing about Canada, we stand up to bigots.

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  69. @ Cole—The DSM V is out and NIMH has made a statement--it is being abandoned. Actually it is his specialty. Berger lectures at Columbia, NYU, Cornell/Downstate. And they are paying a lot of notice. All the confrernece coming up this summer, funding grants. What the Brits/Canada say is not relevant they have no research and their medical community is leaving skid marks on the bottom of the bowl. Look it up. Educate yourself and stop blowing smoke—you sound unhinged. DSMV. Look it up--NYT. Check the New York Times—because it is full of political trash (read into that) and inaccurate—no clinician in the states will be using it and Insurance will not be accepting Dx based on i. The chanting the trans party line, and the ignorance kind of says you do not know what you are talking about—lacks that cache of authority you were aiming for.

    @ Trans people are here to stay.

    It is cultural and faux medical movement that will not be around in 15 years and more than primal scream therapy or the idea that LSD opens the mind. And Trans with other hoax disorders will fade into the pile of former dangerous social trends. Cults don’t survive either BTW. There are also smart people in the field not cowed by the threats and the honking out of “transphobia” That stats don’t look good. The suicide rate is pretty high and research shows that SRA does not help long-term suicide rate. The rate of “detransition” is climbing. I give it another 7 years The studies--it would seem that the conclusions are a whole cluster of co-morbid mental illness. The movement is falling apart in relation to the scientific community and they will have the last word. Cause nobody is going to be paying for anybody's delusion--it is America after all. People are doing their dissertations on the culturally delusion-- You are in some kind of little Trans bubble and should get out more often

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  70. @ 2:53 PM

    The rest of the world doesn't seem to agree with you, I'm afraid. Trans people have been around a hell of a long time, and aren't going anywhere, much as you'd like to hope so. You think every trans person in the world, currently living a normal (if sometimes difficult, as in human) life is suddenly going to wake up one morning and go 'oh, gee, I've been fooling myself all these years, I'm not actually real, I must go back to being my birth assigned gender immediately because some radfems say so'?

    Don't make me fucking laugh.

    Some people detransition? Big deal. People are human, humans make mistakes. It's not the end of the world. It may be embarrassing to have to admit you boobed, but such is life. Suck it up and move on. It's a lot easier than transitioning in the first place.

    Suicide rates? You don't imagine that being called a fraud, a fake, a monster, a pervert, a liar, delusional, a rapist, might just weigh on a person? You don't think that being hounded by people like you might not just have something to do with trans people still having a fair likelihood of killing themselves? It's not about the failed transitions, ladies, it's about the vile treatment some trans people experience merely for being trans and wanting to live their lives in basic decency and respect.

    On, no, to you there can only be one reason, that every trans person out there is a delusion fake.

    Being trans is not a cult. Callings it 'Trans', rather than speaking of a transgender person, just shows your bias straight off the bat, just like when you use fake terms like MT" or FT". There's no such thing.

    People like ehungerford are trying to make transitioning illegal. What do you suppose trans people will do if that succeeds? If you think they'll all suddenly vanish in a puff of smoke, you very much mistaken. Maybe you'd like to ban the right of a woman to have an abortion, too, since you all seem to want to control what other humans do with their bodies.

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  71. (That should read 'fake terms like M2T or F2T') in the above).

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  72. Suicide rates? You don't imagine that being called a fraud, a fake, a monster, a pervert, a liar, delusional, a rapist, might just weigh on a person?

    Better get that on tape because it sounds really delusional--do you hear it through the wall too.

    Well sir, it would seem that only a minority agrees with you on the cause of the suicide. And the suicide rate will only go up because people do realize that they were duped and are living a lie and then they realize the enormity of the mistake. Society is not going to be taking the blame. People have tried to help them. The just demand the delusion be. Enjoy. honored. Not my life. You can take responsibility of your own life. Whoever you mentioned is not in the medical field--it will not be illegal--it will just not be accepted practice--and not deemed a treatment--like a nose job. Men can get whatever cosmetic things they want. Say what you want--you obviously are really in no position to judge much with any accuracy.

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  73. Anonymous 2:53 I'll google that DSM info. Kind of strange that it hasn't been in the news though. Whatever the Americans label gender dysphoria, it won't change the fact I wish my body was XY. I'm doing the best I can with the female body God gave me and not taking testosterone cause I don't want to tick God off. So if its a religious standpoint that leads you to be so cruel, do you really think God would rejoice in your behavior? If its not religious, I have no answer. Also, if you're some big name political lobbyist, why aren't you brave enough to not be anonymous? Be brave. Put a name to your words.

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  74. Cole J D
    Why do you imagine that I am religious? Some clichéd thinking going on. It would be nice and easy to dismiss everyone that opposes as fanatic because of their religion, or ignorant or bigoted—it would also be very mistaken. And some place you know it. God has nothing do with it. Try Google DSM 5 NIMH abandons or rejects. It has been well covered. BTW--Brave is for men. And I don’t much like threats as they tend to be scary and really some of these XY guys are violent. I am 90lbs—so I’ll pass on the bravery. When some XY says they will tear a woman cunt out I believe them because men do that kind of stuff. Honestly, I don’t care if someone thinks I am brave or not—not a value I hold. Also they have attempted to ruin peoples (mostly women’s) careers. I work as an academic so I am somewhat insulated but there are crazy people in the mix. I care that people get real treatment and not some fantasy crap that results in a nosedive out a window a few years down the road. Interest groups—like tobacco companies, pay lobbyist. I do not make a living from this. I do it because I believe people are being screwed over and it is a dangerous trend—I suspect it is a mosaic or a cluster condition made up of several things. But very different for men than women. As a mosaic I suspect Some people having more of one and less of any other. It has parallel in other conditions. T will kill you—it will.

    I have heard of some results with both lamictal and abilify. But you need a top of the line MD trained in psychotropic meds—it also can take a while to get the dosage right and I mean it can take 2 years—side effects can be weird and some dangerous. I would not worry about ticking God off. I would worry about trying to please others and at the same time claiming non conformity. Look at it as cluster—and figure out the components and some will not have the cache as “trans” but you may stay alive—sorry that’s the truth. Start reading—drop the cry that everything is “transphobic” read, question, research verify from every source-- you will see. It may not be what you want to see or hear but it the alternative is worse. It is not cruel—cruel is lying to people to forward self justification at their expense. I have nothing to lose or to gain and I am direct but not cruel and have no PC guilt. T is going to down in history as a manipulative, destructive social trend.

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  75. One of those is for Epilepsy which I don't have. The others' for bipolar and schizophrenia - believe me, I wouldn't have been diagnosed with aspergers 18 years ago, if professionals thought I had something else. And if testosterone is evil both for the body and spiritually. Those other drugs are a million times worse.

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  76. They are using those drugs.They are heavy duty but they use many drugs cross purpose-- the drug they use for kidney transplants is used for Crohns Disease sometimes--it works when nothing else does. They also use the below for OCD but they only can be tried with a really good doc. You can still read and question.

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  77. Dr. Berger currently serves on the “Scientific Advisory Committee” for the controversial group, The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), which purports to turn gay people straight.
    Dr. Berger is diametrically opposed to referring people to gay support groups:

    ”I have never come across anyone with ‘innate homosexuality’…What concerns me as a physician…is that confused and troubled people, [some of them] young victims of prolonged and repeated sexual interference, are not guided toward having professional help to sort our their confusion but instead are directed toward ‘support groups’…at the cost of not coming to grips with their sexual confusion.” (Globe and Mail, February 26, 1992)

    straight out the mouth of that JACKASS "DR" Joseph Berger

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  78. "But Patriarchy is not the answer for everything."

    "I couldn't agree more Anon, it is the answer for NOTHING!"

    -----> (smile)

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