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Friday, April 26, 2013

REAL Women Canada-Bill C-279

Canada's Bill C-279 which would put gender identity/gender expression under human rights protection is back in the news. This time because an "expert psychiatrist" has claimed that "scientifically there is no such thing as transgender". He goes on to say that the so called trans person is either "psychotic or simply unhappy" and that "The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery". Dr. Berger also went on to say "There seems to me to be no medical or scientific reason to grant any special rights or considerations to people who are unhappy with the sex they were born into, or to people who wish to dress in the clothes of the opposite sex."

Until having the support/statements from Dr. Berger, Real Women of Canada were refused "permission to present their perspective on the bill to the review committee" yet all other individual and groups views who support the bill, were accepted by the committee. "REAL Women of Canada presented a 12 page brief setting out the harms created by the bill, and pointing out that the terms “gender expression” and “gender identity," as written in Bill C-279, were so broad that they could be used to protect pedophilia along with other sexual perversions, if passed into law."

More from the article: 
REAL Women provided the committee with evidence that post-operative trans-gendered individuals suffer substantially higher morbidity and mortality than the general population, placing the so-called “sex reassignment” surgery and hormone treatment under continued scrutiny.
They pointed out that a pioneer in such treatment, Dr. Paul McHugh, distinguished professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, stopped the procedures because he found that patients were no better adjusted or satisfied after receiving such treatment.
McHugh wrote in 2004 that “Hopkins was fundamentally cooperating with a mental illness” by catering to the desires of people who wanted surgery to change their biological sex.
“We psychiatrists, I thought, would do better to concentrate on trying to fix their minds and not their genitalia,” he stated, adding that “to provide a surgical alteration to the body of these unfortunate people was to collaborate with a mental disorder rather than to treat it.”

While I fully understand and can appreciate where REAL Women is coming from and agree with there position to a point, employing the likes of Dr. Berger to bring about a critical understanding of transgenderism is not only fruitless, it is dangerous. Dr. Berger does nothing to differentiate autogynephiles from those actually suffering from body dysphoria. Nor does he bother to explain how racism and hyper masculinity within minority groups is responsible for homosexual minorities internalizing and pathologizing their homosexuality resulting in a desire to transition. Or how hyper femininity, the steepest backlash against feminist gains has created a similar self hatred in females (particularly lesbian) ensuing in their wishes to abandon their femaleness via transition.

I think this REAL Women group is more invested in their own narrow "family" interests, than in vying for any REAL help for those slapped with a transgender label. Keeping males, male rapists and male pedophiles out of private female areas is of the highest importance, yes. But so is shedding light on the homophobia underlying EVERY transition!

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  1. “REAL Women of Canada is a pro-family conservative women's movement.”

    http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/

    It’s important to note that it’s NOT just conservatives who question what transgender activists are doing.

    I’m certainly not conservative. Indeed, I can trot out my liberal, left leaning credentials to prove that I have rarely, if ever, agreed with anything the conservatives say.


    (1.) I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life. I’m Democrat/Green, and this is how I’m registered as a voter. Obama got my vote twice.

    (2.) I even was a card carrying member of the ACLU once. I let my yearly dues expire, but I still get updates and emails from them and other left leaning organizations.

    (3.) I’m so left leaning that I actively participated in anti-war protests to oppose Bush’s illegal and immoral war in Iraq. This was before the war, starting in early March 2003 and continuing through 2004. I would take my anti-war signs and stand on the corner with the rest of the protestors.

    (4.) Sierra Club sends me emails all the time. What kind of conservative gets email from the Sierra Club?

    (5.) Last year, I went to several Occupy protests.

    (6.) I used to be involved in MoveOn years ago.

    Again, it’s not just Real Women who question what transgender activists are promoting. The interests of girls and women are just as important as transgender rights, particularly as it relates to biological males who identify as transgender (intact penis and all) using women’s restrooms and locker rooms. Truth be told, transgender is slowly evolving into an Orwellian nightmare for girls and women on so many levels. Women are conditioned to be non-confrontational, but deep in our hearts I think that many women, whether conservative, moderate, or liberal aren’t buying what is being forced on us.

    I think that the transgender community has been successful in brow beating and playing a kind of guilt trip game (*transgender are the most oppressed people in the entire world) on left leaning groups for so long that no one has the nerve to question what they do.

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  2. Not all people who oppose transgender activists are conservative continued...

    It goes like this. If anyone questions anything that is related to transgender, (six year old “transgender” boys using the girl’s restroom in school) he or she is branded a bigot. If we question puberty suppressing drugs for twelve or thirteen year old children, we are bigots. If we question “top surgery” which essentially amounts to elective mastectomies along with the surgical whittling down of areolas and nipples, we are bigots. The areolas and nipples are literally cut off females, reshaped, then sewn back on after the mastectomy. To me, it looks like a form of violence being carried out on the female sex. If we question why Sherri Masbrch (Richard Masbruch) is in a women’s prison after brutally raping and torturing women with an electrical wire, we are bigots. If we question why Fallon Fox, born a biological male, was allowed to walk into a metal cage and pummel women, we are bigots. I’m a female who has NEVER been conservative, and I question what is being forced on women. I question the erasing of female and lesbian identity through a process called "transitioning". I question why homophobia/lesbian phobia/misogyny are being hidden behind a carefully orchestrated smoke and mirror agenda that claims to be so progressive. When people see what "top surgery" and "bottom surgery" actually entails, how can they not sense that this resembles female genital mutilation? Perhaps women’s issues really don’t matter. All that matters is political correctness carried to obscene new heights.

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  3. While I fully understand and can appreciate where REAL Women is coming from and agree with there position to a point, employing the likes of Dr. Berger to bring about a critical understanding of transgenderism is not only fruitless, it is dangerous. Dr. Berger does nothing to differentiate autogynephiles from those actually suffering from body dysphoria. Nor does he bother to explain how racism and hyper masculinity within minority groups is responsible for homosexual minorities internalizing and pathologizing their homosexuality resulting in a desire to transition. Or how hyper femininity, the steepest backlash against feminist gains has created a similar self hatred in females (particularly lesbian) ensuing in their wishes to abandon their femaleness via transition.

    I think this REAL Women group is more invested in their own narrow "family" interests, than in vying for any REAL help for those slapped with a transgender label. Keeping males, male rapists and male pedophiles out of private female areas is of the highest importance, yes. But so is shedding light on the homophobia underlying EVERY transition.


    I completely agree with these paragraphs, and they touch on subjects that many people might think about, but were too afraid to say. Real Women only looks at this from one level, and there is more going on than their narrow interests. This is a complex issue, and it does a disservice to everyone by not shedding light on the forces that drive many girls to "transition", and the misogyny/back lash against feminism/homophobia/lesbian phobia behind the transgender agenda.

    But so is shedding light on the homophobia underlying EVERY transition.

    It's not a matter of whether or not "transitioning" is being used to erase lesbian identity. Rather, it's a matter of degree, or how many. We know it's going on, but the transgender community has been able to silence people on this issue. Never forget this. Transgender are the most oppressed people in the entire world, both past and present. This is how they have been able to convince left leaning groups to go along with their agenda. They play the guilt trip game on liberal groups. When this doesn't work, they turn to other tactics.

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  4. Women (conservative, moderate, or liberal, all political parties) far outnumber transgender. Women have the voting power to shut this nonsense down. Since women have far more voting power than transgender, all we have to do is:

    (1.) let politicians know how we feel and vote accordingly,
    (2.) stick together on this and become united

    After 45 year old Colleen Francis paraded his penis in front of 17 year old girls in Olympia, Washington, it's time for women to look after our own interests. What mother wants her 17 year old daughter seeing some middle aged man's dick? This really happened, and women (men too for that matter) are branded bigots for objecting. Do you think the transgender community cares? No, they don't. We don't have to put up with it. Woman have the voting power to shut the entire GLBT down. Is the GLB listening? I hope the GLBT is listening closely.
    The Democrats wouldn't have been able to elect Obama twice without the women's vote, and the GLBT sure as heck doesn't want the Republicans in the White House or Congress. The GLB probably would be better off without the "T" anyway. When it was trans harassing the living hell out of lesbians (Cotton Ceiling workshop, Michigan Women's Music Festival, etc., joking about bashing the head of a lesbian with a baseball bat, harassing lesbians at Dyke Marches, etc., etc., etc.) no one really cared. Well listen up, and listen up carefully. After the Colleen Francis spectacle, Fallon Fox, Richard (Sherri) Masbruch housed in a women's prison after what he did to women, Robert Ludwig, and the six year old "transgender" boy whose parents don't understand why he can't use the girl's restroom at school, it's a new ball game. I could add more, but it's getting late.

    Yes, women have the voting power to make it happen.

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  5. To: Real Women of Canada

    I'm not conservative, but I support you on this issue. There are some things that tie women together no matter what political affiliation. This is one of them.

    Girls and women MATTER, and I know that they love their daughters too.

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  6. Anon, thanks for the heads up regarding link.

    dirt

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  7. Sorry dirt but you and the bigoted little guy you posted an article about are wrong.
    Dead wrong.
    DING DONG YOU ARE WRONG
    IT HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT TRANSGENDERISM IS REAL AND THAT THEY HAVE THE CHEMICAL & BIOLOGICAL BRAIN OF THE SEX THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN AS.
    BYE DUMBASS.

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  8. "Sorry dirt but you and the bigoted little guy you posted an article about are wrong.
    Dead wrong.
    DING DONG YOU ARE WRONG
    IT HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT TRANSGENDERISM IS REAL AND THAT THEY HAVE THE CHEMICAL & BIOLOGICAL BRAIN OF THE SEX THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN AS.
    BYE DUMBASS."

    How do we explain detransitioning? Detransitioning simply means that people go back to the way they were, or decide they really weren't what they thought they were.

    The overly enthusiastic use of caps doesn't make something true that isn't. This is interesting because apparently these "trans brain" theories (chemical and biological differences in the brain) can cause a female to think she is a man, then turn around and make them a woman again. Or, make a man believe he is a "woman trapped in a man's body", then later cause him to change back again.

    Some people "transitioning" change their minds. What does this say about the so-called "trans brain" theories?

    http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/detransition/

    http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/ftm-detransitioning-experience-quitting-t-and-getting-back-to-life-as-a-woman/

    There are a lot of detransition stories at this website.

    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/about

    'I was born a boy, became a girl, and now I want to be a boy again': Britain's youngest sex swap patient to reverse her sex change treatment

    By Katy Winter

    PUBLISHED: 08:48 EST, 29 October 2012

    Ria Cooper made headlines last year when she became Britain’s youngest sex change patient aged 17, after years of begging her family and the NHS to turn her in to a girl.

    But now, having lived as a women for less than a year the 18-year has decided to change back in to a man after suffering huge mental anguish as a woman.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2224753/Ria-Cooper-Britains-youngest-sex-change-patient-reverse-treatment.html#ixzz2AjFa43a9

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  9. "Sorry dirt but you and the bigoted little guy you posted an article about are wrong.
    Dead wrong.
    DING DONG YOU ARE WRONG
    IT HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT TRANSGENDERISM IS REAL AND THAT THEY HAVE THE CHEMICAL & BIOLOGICAL BRAIN OF THE SEX THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN AS.
    BYE DUMBASS."


    "Fascinating interview with actor and gay man Brian Belovitch, who was legally a “woman” for 14 years before overcoming his gender dysphoria and coming to terms with himself as a proud gay man."

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/brian-belovitch-on-detransitioning-and-healing-from-gender-dysphoria/

    Brian Belovitch went from being a woman to being a man again. What happened to his chemical and biologically different "trans brain"? At what precise point did it switch off, or reverse itself? Please explain this process so I can understand it?

    There are numerous cases of detransitioning, so how does this relate to the supposed differences in "trans brain". There is no gross anatomical region of the brain called a "trans brain". Prior to transitioning, there is no way to tell a trans brain from a brain of an individual who doesn't identify as transgender.

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  10. "Sorry dirt but you and the bigoted little guy you posted an article about are wrong.
    Dead wrong.
    DING DONG YOU ARE WRONG
    IT HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT TRANSGENDERISM IS REAL AND THAT THEY HAVE THE CHEMICAL & BIOLOGICAL BRAIN OF THE SEX THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN AS.
    BYE DUMBASS."


    I'm waiting for an answer on how these chemical and biological "trans brain" differences are able to apparently undo themselves. Since this person seems to know everything about neuroscience, please explain detransitioning, or transgender people who go from identifying as a woman then go back to identifying as a man, or females who decide they want to detransition.

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  11. This is why alot of people are wising up and waking up to the realization that all the scams and lies that the trans community likes to push in peoples faces are nothing more than delusions of their mental illness.

    This is why the Trans community is built on a house of Lies and scams that if people fully knew what they were, people would be ditching them faster than their credit rating. Their lies and scams are nothing more than their failed fragile ideology that is built on their psychosis and mental illness. It's why Medical doctors are often suckered into treating them with SRS instead of treating their psychosis and their mental illness.

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  12. @ “I'm waiting for an answer on how these chemical and biological "trans brain" differences are able to apparently undo themselves. Since this person seems to know everything about neuroscience, please explain detransitioning, or transgender people who go from identifying as a woman then go back to identifying as a man, or females who decide they want to detransition.”

    You are going to waiting a very long indeed because there is no neuroscience—none. Although, the autogynaphilic male “trans brain may indeed be different as it seeped in auto erotic compulsive thoughts. Is it “female?” No. There has been no science that even remotely suggests this. In fact all the science has been tossed as faulty, and inconclusive? And all the new research contradicts the “trans narrative” six ways to Sunday. These guys will have to burn down every neuroscience department at every major University, and then attempt to intimidate every researcher. They only have a handful of docs—that work for a price and have been tossed out of almost every hospital. Most academics outside of Queer studies in the hard sciences are trying to distance themselves. What’s left—not the best or the brightest. Mostly –MSW and LSW with little to no real academic or scientific background and some snaggly Queer studies people with a vested interest and need to keep their flimsy careers afloat. That’s who is backing this. For a price they will placate a male delusion. Women rarely develop all consuming fetishistic behaviors. But let’s face it the quasi and false sciences crap it sounds a whole lot more important than the truth of being so porn soaked and obsessed with narcissistic erotic thoughts. These men throw out every absurd smoke screen to obscure themselves, and expect women to be their handmaidens and fuck holes. As for DING DONG—he’s a yankin the ding’a ling now. The bottom line--they feel all hot when they imagine themselves women. Which makes them—men with a fetish—how rare and special is that.

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  13. yep we should hold an entire population guilty for the actions of a few bad apples

    Cherry pickers.

    So some people detransition. Most do not.

    You can delude yourself all you want. Society and law makers are being influenced to accept the trans person as not a danger.
    Pontificating the same talking points is just spining your wheels in the mud. Trans specific human rights laws are going on the books across the globe. There is no stoping the diversity train.

    If you can not come up with a better citation than this discredited organisation and doctor then you will loose in the long run.

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  14. @ a few bad apples—just a quick response as I have to take the kids to soccer practice.
    People will “de transition” if they can and if not—swan dives out of windows, heads in ovens—“trans=death,” Some will become spokespersons decrying the whole thing . Soon these kids will tell stories of manipulation and pressure. Its gonna get ugly but it ‘s gonna be honest. A few bad apples. More like an whole orchard. People will “educate themselves” the entire project is anti-social pathological and misogynistic.

    Some laws have, in a rush of a popular fad, gone through but they are all being questioned—easy in, easy out. The fact that many state reps were provided statistics that are just made up lies has not made people in those offices happy. This I know for a fact. Nobody wants to look the fool and like they were played. Currently several states are revisiting the “wording” and in some places they have not passed at all in MD, the former home of John Hopkins Gender Clinic—they flushed that legislation down the crapper. And I can say having worked closely on that and now working on others places, more states will follow. State Reps now have access to a lot more info that isn’t “transplaining” Medical professionals are weighing in and the New Yorker did a rather deeply skeptical article. We will pick up the pace and make sure people are saturated with real information-- the threats Trans makes against women serve well and making more people in positions aware of every murder and rape committed by “trans” against women and children. In addition the medical community is also moving, —no reputable University Hospital teaches anything to do with it. And it will not be too long before LBG cuts this loose (remember NAMBA).

    My prediction from where I am sitting, is that the entire “trans-movement” will be reframed as something more akin to sexual compulsion in men with some borderline and narcissistic personality disorder in the mix and a complex self hate in women. More and more research confirms the fact that there is no “female” or “male” brain. That dog don’t hunt. APA will also run for cover as it tries to rebuild it’s reputation. Many of its new core group are reading and agreeing with the research from the Israelis, (and Israel has some of the leading research in the world). There are rumblings--The influence that lawmakers feel from the “trans” pales in comparison to all the stats of violence committed by trans against women. Please keep encouraging rapists murders and child molesters to keep suing prisons for SRS— violent criminals=bad press, gender disphoria as a defense argument for murder—will not wash with Mr. and Mrs. Average American. By all means stand by your men. My personal fav in the deconstructing of the delusion is totally unintentional as it were-- some states post their arrests by male, female and transgender—(look at all that respect the trans has won) Now these get sent out.

    You can claim a few bad apples. All a state rep has to do is take a peek at the mug shot and the charges, when he is done making a tally, murder, murder, rape, molest --the dime drops, Let’s just say on average they are not white collar crimes. So the lesson is-- Getting attention is a double-edged sword. Even the most perfunctory understanding of history and science should provide you with enough awareness to see this whole issue is “up like a comet and down like a stick,” And then there will the hoards of “detransitioners” they will be speaking out and will be heard.

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  15. "Trans brain" - oh yes! Evidence?

    Given the many doomed attempts to define the differences between female and male brains (there seem to be tendencies but no hard and fast distinctions) and, for that matter, between the brains of different races (even to the point of falsifying evidence), this is a tall order.

    How about sexual responses of post trans M2Trans people (gay and straight) as compared with un-transitioned males (gay and straight), and both compared with women (lesbian and straight)? Now, that research has been done.

    Guess what - the males respond like males, whether or not they are transexual, whether or not they are attracted to males or females or both.

    And we respond differently, because we are women.

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  16. *REAL Women* is nothing but a self-loathing group of Women, which is so unfortunate in this day and age. They are Women I truly feel sorry for, and the patriarchal influences that they grew up with is ingrained in their souls. Fortunately they only represent a fraction of Women in this country.

    So Sad!

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