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Thursday, April 18, 2013

Five Myths about Transition

Myth 1-Trans people are born that way. Wrong, no one is trans until high dosing of opposite sexed hormones are introduced.

Myth 2-Transition cures Gender Dysphoria. Wrong, dysphoria may be temporarily alleviated in the early stages of transition. It generally returns and/or changes upon returning, often times at a greater degree of body uncomfortableness and body hatred.

Myth 3-Suicidal depression goes away after transition. Wrong, once early trans highs wear off as hormonal changes cease, depression often returns, along with suicidal feelings.

Myth 4-All those who transition suffer from dysphoria. Wrong, the largest group who transition (hetero-white males) transition to appease their pricks/ mental phallus.

Myth 5-At a certain point your transition with be complete. Wrong, transition never ends if you wish to remain trying to appear as the opposite sex. Dangerous high levels of hormone use must continue throughout your life, regardless of serious health issues caused by those drugs, including heart attack/cancer.

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  1. Why are you so obsessed with ragging on trans people? Get a goddamn life.

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  2. To be honest, I think Dirt is right to some extent on myth 2-5. However, I do not agree with her disagreement with myth 1 - "Trans people are born this way." Because you can imply this myth on gays and lesbians as well - "No one is born a homo, it against nature's intent/not natural." Sure, not everyone who suffers dysphoria is transgender. Not everyone is gay or lesbian as well.

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  3. Homosexuality runs all through nature.

    Homosexuality doesnt require drugs/surgeries to be gay or lesbian.

    Trans cannot exist without high dosing of drugs, period! Link one case where a fetus was purposely injected with high doses of hormones and continued on after birth receiving those high doses of drugs.

    dirt

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  4. My mission in life is to prove that people are born with a sex\gender mismatch. We need to accept this is so and try to leave the body as the universe made it. Working on developing a British\Canadian sci fi series with Cecil Smith a non medically transitioning ftm possibly played by Billie Piper(Rose from Doctor Who) leading man hopefully Dillon Casey, John Barrowman and Eliza Dushku as time travellers. That's my dream. Will it happen? We'll have to wait and see. Try accept the diversity of the human brain Dirty White Boy.

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  5. Impossible on all counts young lady. Not to mention babies cannot be born with a "gender" since their 9 months are spent in a vacuum.

    dirt

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  6. My mother and grandmother have\had extremely high levels of testosterone for femaled bodied people. Thus my Hypathalumus got more testosterone then a female foetus should get- thus male gender identity. You annoying person.

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  7. So what, so has several Femme g/fs of mine. What is your point? I have passed as male since age three, so what. Again, your point is what???

    Also you were speaking about "gender", ie social Gender Straight Jacket norms, what does that have to do with biology???

    dirt

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  8. For what its worth I am a highly feminine woman who happens to have PCOS & have a male hormone level beyond what is considered normal. I have done a lot to manage the syndrome via diet, excercise and natural treatment with my naturopath and my symtoms have diminished greatly. I am finally ovulating as normal (my fingers are crossed in hope I can get pregnant as I/we really want to in the near furture) however my hormone levels remain unchanged?
    There is a lot we don't know about many things. We might be shocked to discover the true extent of plastic residues, pesticides and many other things that we have only been recently exposed to & their effects on gene expression. They might be pushing us towards functional androgyny & infertility in spite of anything related to gender identity etc.
    Ironically my Butch partner is the picture of female health & fertility & it has been suggested by professionals that she give birth to our child as opposed to me, due to the associated risks during pregnancy for women with PCOS. She is also 5 years younger than me. We will see how we go.
    Apologies for going off topic, but I was slightly confused upon learning of a couple in my city who are legally married & consist of an ftm & a woman with PCOS who cannot get pregnant. Apparently the plan is for 'him' to come off all the trans treatments so 'his' female reproductive system can kick into gear again & 'he' can have the baby. I think this is a bit of a roundhouse in the face really as my partner & I cannot be legally married yet! It feels like cheating to me. Since when does a man have a baby. Giving birth would have to be up there with the most womanly of all experiences possible. It just doesn't sit right with me.
    Oh well, I wish them luck. Wish me luck too.

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  9. There are so many interesting detransition stories on this site:

    http://atlasstrawberries.tumblr.com/

    (sorry if this comment section isn't the right place for this link)

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  10. @ Anon at 1:13 AM.
    Obviously our govt here in Australia does not require a hysterectomy for legally changing gender from f to m, which does surprise me as we are quite a conservative country in many ways & will probably be one of the last countries to honour & acknowledge gay marriage. At the risk of sounding harsh I think that requirement is fair. This f2m & female couple can consider many of the same options that heterosexual couples who find themselves unable to have children do. If the f2m partner stops treatments to conceive a child I don't know how they can call themselves anything different than my partner & I (two women) on any level, legal or otherwise.

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    1. You have to have hysto to get birth certificate corrected in Australia and that's how it should be !

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  11. @ Anon at 3.15
    You're damned right that's how it should be! I'm not sure what is going on with the individuals I've mentioned. Perhaps they are bullshitting on being legally married or having legal m status or something. Either way it pokes a huge hole in the validity of it all. I've just mentioned one individual but blanket statements such as feeling trapped in the wrong body etc. clearly don't apply to everyone if he can live as a man etc. but is then prepared to have a child as only a woman can. If a person felt deeply that they are a man surely it would not occur to him to bear a child. Obviously people are motivated by different things & take transition to varying levels. While I don't doubt that there are rare genuine cases it does seem like transitioning is just another fashion fad for many. Otherwise why would a person not go through with having a hysterectomy etc.

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    1. I agree with you anon 7:10 :-) every word..

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  12. My mother and grandmother have\had extremely high levels of testosterone for femaled bodied people. Thus my Hypathalumus got more testosterone then a female foetus should get- thus male gender identity. You annoying person.

    I doubt if my hypothalamus is any different than this individual’s, and I'm a female who doesn't believe I’m a man.

    This person spelled hypothalamus wrong, but the poor spelling is just one of her or his problems. Transgender “brain sex theories” just don’t hold up to careful reasoning.

    I identify as butch lesbian, and perhaps my hypothalamus was exposed to just as much androgens in fetal development as this individual. Isn’t this a possibility? Or, it could be that I received far more androgens than this person. Is there any way to tell? There are some studies that show that gay men and lesbians have slightly differences in their brains.

    Question: Isn't it possible that females who do NOT identify as transgender, or live under the delusion that they are male, were exposed to just as much androgens in fetal development as a transgender identified person?

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  13. My mother and grandmother have\had extremely high levels of testosterone for femaled bodied people. Thus my Hypathalumus got more testosterone then a female foetus should get- thus male gender identity. You annoying person.

    Even CAH females rarely identify as male. In CAH, the adrenal glands can’t produce cortisol and aldosterone, so the adrenal glands start kicking out androgens to compensate. The fact that even CAH females don't necessarily identify as transgender or male should tell us something about the socially constructed word "transgender". Non CAH females identify as heterosexual, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. CAH females identify as heterosexual, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. The only difference is one of definition or identity which is culturally based. CAH females might reject traditional sex roles and have a propensity for certain behaviors, but this doesn't mean that they think they ARE male. It’s important to point out that the vast majority of transgender are NOT intersex. They are no different than any other biological female. So, throwing up the idea that it’s androgens in fetal development just doesn't fly. I'm aware of studies that show that androgens in fetal development can prime the brain for certain types of behaviors (rough and tumble play, aggression etc.) The majority of females who identify as transgender do NOT have an intersex medical condition such as CAH (adrogens in fetal development). Even if a female was exposed to androgens in fetal development, what does that mean? I've known a lot of butch lesbians who exhibit far more non-traditional behavior than many transgender females. I identify as butch lesbian, and perhaps I have a “trans brain” and don't even know it. Heck, Thomas Beatie, the transgender female had three babies after legally changing her sex. Since when does getting pregnant three times make a person a man? My point is this. The transgender "brain sex" theory just doesn't hold water under careful analysis for one simple reason. Prior to transitioning, there is no way to tell a "trans brain" from any other brain. There certainly is no gross anatomical structure called a "trans brain". Most genetic females who identify as transgender were exposed to no more androgens in the fetus than females who don't identify as transgender. It’s interesting to note that transgender females such as Chaz Bono and Thomas Beatie (“the pregnant man”) identified as lesbian before they started believing that they were heterosexual males. So, the androgens in fetal development first made them lesbian, and then the androgens in fetal development turned around and decided to make them men instead. Well, no, it doesn’t go like this. The androgens in fetal development might have created a propensity for certain behaviors, but it didn’t make them transgender. Besides, it’s highly unlikely that they were exposed to any more androgens in fetal development than any other biological female. One of the major ways to tell whether or not a biological female was exposed to androgens in fetal development is to simply look at her genitals at birth. It’s all very simple. CAH females can have atypical female looking genitals at birth. The vast majority of transgender females such as Chaz Bono and Thomas the “pregnant man” came out of the womb exactly like all other females. It's the presence of the Y chromosome that signals the production of androgens that spurs the development of testes and male genitalia. Genetic females don't have a Y chromosome. Unless she has CAH (adrenals can’t produce cortisol, so it compensates by producing androgens), how is a biological female going to be exposed to testosterone?

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  14. There is a large body of research that shows that many of the so-called sex differences in the brain are largely culturally based. That is, men think one way and women think another way, or boys play with cars, and girls with Barbies. “ Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society, and Neurosexism Create Difference” by Cordellia Fine is an excellent book. She is a neuroscientist.
    “Pink Brain, Blue Brain” is another good book.
    Lise Eliot, a graduate of Harvard, received her Ph.D. from Columbia University. She is Associate Professor of Neuroscience at The Chicago Medical School of Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science.
    She argues that infant brains are so malleable that what begin as small differences at birth become amplified over time, and the culture at large—unwittingly reinforce gender stereotypes.
    If it’s true that culture plays a major role in reinforcing traditional sex roles, what does this say about the transgender “brain sex” theories? Androgens in fetal development might create a propensity for certain behaviors, but society gets to dictate what is “masculine” and “feminine”. If the differences between male and female aren’t as great as we thought they were, how can the same biological females who were not exposed to androgens in fetal development say they are that different?

    Transgender is just props up sexist stereotypes of “masculinity” and “femininity”, but cloaks it in something that is supposed to be seen as progressive.


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  15. Of course there are people being encouraged to transition in some of the most FUCKED-UP regimes on the planet.

    I believe it's safe to say believe that Iran qualifies as a FUCKED UP regime. As we have said on this blog several times before, there is no doubt in anyone's mind that gay men in Iran have been coerced into sex reassignment surgery. As I understand it, the government will even help pay for the surgery. However, homosexuals are executed in Iran and lesbians get flogged.

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  16. Kids are speaking what their gender is at a very young age based on how they feel in their bodies. Based on how they feel in the world. Based on what they know.

    Jazz was born with Gender Identity Disorder, and diagnosed at age 3.

    http://www.transkidspurplerainbow.org/who-we-are/

    Why wait until they are the wise old age of three? This is way too late for a "diagnosis". Why not just "diagnose" gender identity disorder at birth? This sounds logical to me.

    Do three, four, five, and six year old kids know exactly who they are at this age? Some kids this age think they are Spiderman, so this must be true also.

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  17. If a person felt deeply that they are a man surely it would not occur to him to bear a child.

    I ask the reader to take note of how this sentence is phrased.

    "If a person felt deeply that they are a man surely it would not occur to him to bear a child."...

    How many biological males walk around thinking about getting pregnant? I bet this is the first thing men think about. While sitting with their buddies drinking beer and watching football, one guy looks over at his buddy and says, "Joe, I think I'll get pregnant".

    If a person felt deeply that they are a man surely it would not occur to him to bear a child.

    Thomas Beatie, former teenage beauty queen who looked gorgeous in a dress and makeup, gave birth to three babies AFTER SHE LEGALLY CHANGED HER SEX TO MALE. Of course, no doctor is going to tell a pregnant woman to continue to inject testosterone while pregnant, so she had to go off the testosterone the three times that she was pregnant. Did she go from female, to male, then back to female while she was pregnant with her three children? Most rational people see this as insanity. The only people who don't see this as an absurd travesty are transgender, and they represent a minority of people. The judge in Arizona wasn't buying it.

    I read that Thomas Beatie tried to get the birth certificate of one of her children changed so that it would say that she is the "father". If she is the "father", then who is the mother? Apparently, her children have no mother. No mother exists, although three children developed for nine months in her womb. People simply aren't buying this crock of crap.

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  18. We all know that dirt has some issue with FTMs in particular.

    Transgender have no issues whatsoever with lesbians, feminists, or women in general.

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    ".....You are such a weak little old hag of a bitch. Get raped by a bunch of niggers you old crow."

    "You made this story up you fucking ugly OVER-THE-HILL sagging tits, fat ass ugly repulsive CUNT. You're just jealous that you're OLD AS HELL and can NEVER EVER transition successfully the way us young dudes do! We are the men you can never, ever be. Medical science, nanotechnology and genetic engineering is advancing in ways your tiny female, estrogen-dominant gossipy female brain can NEVER imagine. CUNT. And being 25 I will reap the benefits and you will just be a corpse. You're not even masculine, this shit you're doing here is totally female...gossipy manipulative psychological warfare. Why don't you take your fat, over-sized, child-bearing hips sagging cottage cheese ass back in the kitchen and cook your disgusting wrinkled, obese crew-cut trainwreck you call a "girlfriend" another Swanson dinner you useless OLD HAG. KNOW YOUR PLACE and stop treading on us. Stupid useless cunt. No wonder there is so much misogyny...it's because of bitches like you. Suck a fat one and get AIDS".

    SOURCE:

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    Trans activists joke about bashing the head of a lesbian with a baseball bat...It really happened. Google Casebeer's name.

    “Pimp slap is not enough here: a nice home run swing to the head with a 38-oz Louisville Slugger is more in order. There’s no brains in her head to destroy to start with. It’s personal, and if I ever saw her in my windshield, I’ll be wiping blood off my white Buick. But I won’t be using the brakes.”.

    http://gendertrender.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/monica-violence-1.jpg

    "I hope you die in a fire."

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/05/another-frightening-article-on.html

    Transgender males often refer to biological females as "fish". "Fish do this and fish do that". They have been known to say this, and women are supposed to pretend that it isn't sexist to the core. Every now and then, they dreaming of spraying feminists they don't agree with with cans of bug spray

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3042989746089&set=a.1030604477715.2007291.1003456955&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=like&theater

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  19. Apologies for going off topic, but I was slightly confused upon learning of a couple in my city who are legally married & consist of an ftm & a woman with PCOS who cannot get pregnant. Apparently the plan is for 'him' to come off all the trans treatments so 'his' female reproductive system can kick into gear again & 'he' can have the baby. I think this is a bit of a roundhouse in the face really as my partner & I cannot be legally married yet.

    Now that they are no longer lesbian, and magically became "straight men", or just "men", FTMs who legally change their sex can marry women. Since there are many legal rights and benefits that come with marriage, FTMs have more legal rights than lesbians. Of course, FTMs can't be drafted into the military like biological males. At least, not as men. They don't have to register for selective service. They can't father children. In essence, they do not have the same responsibilities as males (military service, fathering children, etc.), but they are "men". Men do two things: they father children and when all hell breaks out, they fight for their country. FTMs don't have these responsibilities, but they legally can call themselves "male". The fact that some FTMs have children after they legally change their sex is just another reason why biological females and biological males should not be able to legally change their sex. I'm more open to the idea of intersex individuals changing their sex, but the vast majority of transgender are either biological male or biological female without an intersex medical condition. It's essentially all in their heads, and it's becoming way to bazaar and insane.

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  20. @Anon 4:22

    "Men do two things: they father children and when all hell breaks out, they fight for their country"

    By your logic women only do one thing.

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  21. snippet of dirt's claims:

    Myth 2-Transition cures Gender Dysphoria. Wrong, dysphoria may be temporarily alleviated in the early stages of transition. It generally returns and/or changes upon returning, often times at a greater degree of body uncomfortableness and body hatred.

    I transitioned about 16 years ago, and feel NO discomfort about my body, nor do I hate my body. Nor do any of the older transmen I know personally.

    Myth 3-Suicidal depression goes away after transition. Wrong, once early trans highs wear off as hormonal changes cease, depression often returns, along with suicidal feelings.

    This is a very broad assumption. I was one of those who was suicidal throughout my late teens and into my young adulthood, when I was living as a lesbian - in a very supportive community I might add. I was on medication for depression and borderline agoraphobia. Since transition, nothing but happiness and a HUGE boost in self confidence. Not suggesting this is the case for everyone, but that is my experience.

    Myth 5-At a certain point your transition with be complete. Wrong, transition never ends if you wish to remain trying to appear as the opposite sex. Dangerous high levels of hormone use must continue throughout your life, regardless of serious health issues caused by those drugs, including heart attack/cancer.

    Again, a very broad blanket statement. I stopped taking hormones after my hysto and once my facial/body hair had come in fully. When I ceased taking T, there was no noticeable changes. I still have the same facial/body hair, same voice, etc. I met with an endocrinologist at Mayo Clnic to make sure there was no danger in not taking hormones post hysto, and he said it's a case by case thing, but that I was healthy and it didn't seem to have any adverse affects, so not to worry.
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    I have always said, dirt, that some of your opinions I can agree with. I think some people get pressured to transition, and people who transition and regret it because they jumped off into it prematurely don't get support from the community to "de-transition". I agree with that 100%. However, to completely discount everyone's experiences based on some, is not only ignorant, it is as detrimental as assuming ALL Butches want to be men. Transition IS the answer for some - I just think it's WAY less than the numbers of people transitioning, and I think it's been made way too easy. When I did it, it took almost 2 years to get hormones. Now, it can be accomplished in a matter of days, and that's wrong. I am also disgusted by the threats and the venom directed at you - especially the misogyny involved. You do have a right to your opinions, I just wish you stated that it's opinion and not fact like you are sometimes guilty of doing. Anyway, in the past we've been able to have some meaningful dialogue - hopefully that is still the case.

    Mike ... or Michelle as you like to call me ;)

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  22. You're so comfortable and happy in your perpetual never ending transition and yet you find yourself here, belying everything you just commented.

    dirt

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  23. I transitioned about 16 years ago, and feel NO discomfort about my body, nor do I hate my body.

    I do not hate my body, but for the last 16 years I've been trying to change it.

    I'm assuming this individual had "top surgery" which essentially amounts to elective mastectomies with the surgically trimming down of areolas and nipples. Often the areolas and nipples are cut off, reshaped, then sewn back on.

    My healthy breasts had to be removed, but I don't hate my body now.

    It's not just the breasts that had to be removed, more of the female anatomy had to be removed. So, it didn't just stop with the "top surgery".

    I'm curious as to whether or not this individual got a hysterectomy because of a disease of the female reproductive system, or because of a psychiatric diagnosis called "gender dysphoria"? There are people who have body dysphoria too, and have a compulsion to have hack off or remove various parts of their anatomy (arm, leg, etc.) It's actually happened.

    I'm glad this individual stopped the "T", but if there are no ovaries, there are no natural hormones (the ovaries also naturally produce small amounts of testosterone which helps with a female's sex drive). Don't women who have undergone hysterectomy have a greater risk of heart disease and osteoporosis. Biological females who "transition" are sort of in a catch 22 situation in that if they keep their ovaries and uterus and still take testosterone for years, there is an increased risk of PCOS, but if they get the ovaries and uterus removed, there is no internal source of hormones. They get instant menopause with a hysterectomy if the ovaries are removed too, increasing the risk of osteoporosis. Many women have to have hysterectomies because of fibroid tumors or other medical problems. I knew a woman who had to have a hysterectomy, and afterwards she said her libido plummeted. Her doctor prescribed hormones. Doesn't having a natural source of hormones make more sense?

    The concept of breast removal and hysterectomies because of what amounts to a psychiatric diagnosis is something that I'm struggling to understand.

    Mike, or Michelle, you sound like a decent enough person, and I mean you no disrespect, but I have trouble believing that transitioning isn't a life long activity.



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  24. Ah well... lol, can't actually talk to the haters as usual. I came back to offer support for the not so self assured transpeople who get verbally assaulted here as well as to show that some of us actually care that people get pressured to do something that isn't right for them. Your veiled insults are lost on me, sorry to disappoint. Trust me when I tell you that there's nothing you can say to hurt me :) I also wanted to show that not all transpeople wish death and despair on dirt. But I'm sure that pisses you off even more than my existence does - that I didn't behave like you insinuate ALL transpeople behave. I have some Butch friends that I love like family, and I think Butch women are fierce and amazing individuals - even when some of them behave like some I've seen here.

    Oh, and thanks for the concerns about my health - but I'm happy to report, at 43, I feel great and enjoy terrific health :)

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  25. And if you want to consider transition "perpetual" and never ending, meh, ok. So I'm perpetually transitioning, I'm ok with that :)

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  26. Clearly you arent okay with anything or you wouldnt be here parading how OKAY you are. Might work with the kiddies, but not with my intelligent readership. We see through the lies, which is precisely why you felt so compelled to comment. Cut to the quick did it.

    And I am not sure what your love for Butches has to do with any of this. Especially given how few have transitioned. Or were you looking for a date???? If thats the case, I'm not interested. I only partner with strong lesbians secure in their femaleness.

    dirt

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  27. Mike (Michelle), I’m sorry if I came off as a sarcastic ass. You sound more respectful and decent than some of the transgender trolls that come in here. Every week, Dirt posts youtube videos of sixteen and seventeen year old girls who are already talking about “T”. They start to wear breast binders at age fifteen, even though the transgender community knows full well that this can mis-align ribs. All of it gets mind numbing after awhile.

    Myth 3-Suicidal depression goes away after transition. Wrong, once early trans highs wear off as hormonal changes cease, depression often returns, along with suicidal feelings.

    This is a very broad assumption. I was one of those who was suicidal throughout my late teens and into my young adulthood, when I was living as a lesbian - in a very supportive community I might add. I was on medication for depression and borderline agoraphobia. Since transition, nothing but happiness and a HUGE boost in self confidence. Not suggesting this is the case for everyone, but that is my experience.


    I ask the reader to imagine this scenario. A black person says, "When I was living as a black person in a supportive community, I was far more depressed than I am now." Then, goes on to state, "Ever since I got plastic surgery to make me look white, I'm no longer depressed." I wish people would just be honest for once. Biological females who "transition" step up in social status by the fact that they are viewed as male, and if they are primarily attracted to women, they no longer have to call themselves lesbian (dyke, carpet muncher, lez, or any other derogatory term for lesbian). They pass, at least outwardly, as straight males. Who has more social status and privilege? Is it males or females? Historically, we know it's males, and it still is true to a large extent, even in developed countries. Who is more likely to experience discrimination? Is it heterosexuals or lesbians? The answer is obvious. Lesbians are women who happen to love other women, and they are surely more oppressed than heterosexuals. I suggest that part of the reason that trans biological females, especially ones who are attracted to woman, say they feel better after "transitioning", is because they no longer have to identify as women, or as lesbian. Of course, it’s all an illusion because biological females can never be truly male. It’s all about appearance.

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  28. Myth 3-Suicidal depression goes away after transition. Wrong, once early trans highs wear off as hormonal changes cease, depression often returns, along with suicidal feelings.

    My take on this: More true than not. SRS might alleviate gender dysphoria to a certain degree, but in terms of mortality and morbidity, transsexuals still have higher rates of suicide.

    There was a major study in 2011 by the Karolinksa Institute.

    Using data from Swedish registers, they studied 324 people — 191 male-to-females and 133 female-to-males — who had SRS between 1973 and 2003. For each SRS patient, the researchers randomly selected 10 people from the general population who had not had SRS. From this group, two control subjects were matched to each SRS patient — one with the same sex and age as the patient at birth and the other, with the same age and sex as the patient after SRS.

    All-cause mortality was three times higher for people who had SRS and deaths by suicide were also higher. People who had the SRS were also at higher risk for hospitalizations for non-gender related psychiatric problems. It’s not totally clear why people who get the surgery get worse. But the authors conclude,


    “Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behavior and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism…”

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

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  29. haha dirt - no I wasn't looking for a date - I just celebrated 10 years with my wife - thanks anyway! If I didn't know better, I'd think Diekia left you for a transman the way you parade your animosity...

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  30. Celebratory folks dont drip of bitterness as you clearly do. And you might wanna check your facts regarding linda. And bringing up my personal past only strengthens what I and reading the truths between your own words, conclude.

    dirt

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  31. Maxim 1) All Comments with the prefix cis in them will be removed.

    Maxim 2) Using the term intersex in efforts to defend a trans position will be removed.

    Maxim 3) Pronouns will reflect biology or your comment will be removed.

    Maxim 4) If referring to a biological male in transition, something along the lines of trans male will be used or your comment will be removed.

    Maxim 5) If referring to a biological female in transition, something along the lines of trans female will be used or your comment will be removed.

    Maxim 6) Unless a post is specifically about me personally, personal comments directed toward me will be removed.

    Maxim 7) Hate filled comments will be removed.

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  32. ihaha dirt - no I wasn't looking for a date - I just celebrated 10 years with my wife - thanks anyway! If I didn't know better, I'd think (name deleted) left you for a transman the way you parade your animosity...

    I tried to apologize to this person, but they are still upset. When this person says "wife", I'm assuming she was legally married(*sorry for the pronoun faux pas, and I know this upsets them). I noticed that this individual mentioned her wife. I also was in a long term relationship with a woman for over ten years, but because I'm a biological female who didn't get plastic surgery on my breasts and genitals, nor took testosterone for the sole purpose of calling myself a "man", I'm not allowed to marry in most states. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read somewhere that one of the reasons that Thomas, the "pregnant man" trans, "transitioned" is so that she could marry the woman she was living with. It does make sense because there are several legal rights and benefits to being married. To me, it's kind of amusing to hear biological females who "transition" talk about marriage. I'm not saying that their relationships with the women in their lives aren't fulfilling and loving. I'm not attacking the relationships per se. Rather, some trans females appear to play the system. Thomas Beatie had three children AFTER she legally changed her sex. She isn't the only trans female who says she is a "man" then tries to get pregnant, or talks about pregnancy. What is up with this horse pooty? I also read that Thomas Beatie tried to get the birth certificate of one of her children changed so that she would be listed as the father. What is up with this crock of crap? Again, it's not my intention to attack the relationships per se. Rather, the strange way that some biological females who "transition" had either played the legal system, or expected rational people to go along with some cockamamie, screw ball notion that they are the "fathers" of the children that they actually gave birth to. Apparently, the three children that Thomas gave birth to (after she legally changed her sex to male) have no mother. They only have a father, Thomas, the female who gave birth to them. While all this nonsense is going on, lesbians who have been in committed relationships for twenty years can't legally get married.

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