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Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Transmen/Lesbians/Trans Lesbians

A great many readers of this blog come to me from trans females aka transmen seeking information regarding themselves and lesbians in some fashion. While there is a small amount of straight females who seek transition as an answer to all their troubles, predominantly females in transition are lesbians. Not surprising since transition was created and is maintained to eradicate gays and lesbians. That ugly little truth aside, while testosterone certainly does change the sexual orientation of many females in transition, it doesn't completely change all. Whether lesbians in the early stages of testosterone changes or lesbians for whom testosterone hasnt altogether changed their lesbian attractions/connections, lesbian relationships are sought by a great many lesbian transitioners.

I realize I am telling you nothing new, but like everything I write there ALWAYS is a point. The point of this brief post is clarity. Clarity relating to lesbians who transition and temporarily or continue years into transition, seeking out lesbian spaces and lesbian girlfriends. What seems to conveniently be ignored or skirted is that trans females aka transmen who have/seek lesbian partners do so because they remain lesbians aka women who love women. No matter what they may call themselves, no matter what pronoun they "prefer", no matter what changes happens to their bodies, if they remain with/attracted to lesbians they truly have never really "felt" themselves to be men.

This truth completely belies the whole female trans-ideology of "always feeling like a guy". Heterosexual guys do not "feel" like lesbians from the time they are small, they feel like heterosexual males. And before anyone pipes in that straight males can be attracted to lesbians and still remain straight men. Sexually fantasizing about two hyper feminine women fucking does not a mutual lesbian love attraction make. So regardless of trans females who date each other or trans females who seek lesbian love interests, at the heart of it, those trans females continue functioning as lesbian women, regardless of appearance.

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  1. I agree that it is predominately labile young Lesbains (with other probems as well) who "transition". How can they be self-confident when society tells them Lesbians are worthless, and to top it off - that 2 women can't even have "real" sex together - who wants to belong to a group who can't even have sex?

    Very often we see FtM's pairing up with each other and calling themselves "gay men" (everyone knows gay men have lots of sex, even more than heteros). They could have just used their imaginations (sky is the limit) and left their major erogenous zones intact. This trans trend is not happening among young gay men.

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  2. It's really not true that those of us looking critically at the trans question want to be men. If my GF wants to stop me cold in my tracks, she just has to say I'm doing whatever "like a man".
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  3. If the reader scrolls on down to the latest "Trans Trending, Who is Transitioning", and clicks on the videos of these 14 to 20 year old girls, the majority say that they have a girlfriend, or say something to the effect that they like girls. Listen carefully to the videos. It's interesting because they might say "I like girls", or "my girlfriend", but they never use the word "lesbian" to describe themselves. Once the word "transgender" comes out, the "lesbian" is dropped like it's toxic or something.

    They are still female, and like girls, and might have sex with girls just the way lesbians do. However, in their minds they can never be lesbian because they are transgender. Most people have heard the old joke about women who are so utterly terrified of being called "lesbian" that they couldn't even say the word if their mouth was on one.

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  4. "I agree that it is predominately labile young Lesbains (with other probems as well) who "transition". How can they be self-confident when society tells them Lesbians are worthless, and to top it off - that 2 women can't even have "real" sex together - who wants to belong to a group who can't even have sex?"

    Yes, this is true. To love another woman as a woman in a female body is terrifying to many girls. Words like "lez" or "dyke" instil fear in the hearts of many high school girls. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that some serious lesbian phobic feelings and attitudes are behind the reason the majority of the girls in the videos state that they are trans not lesbian.

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  5. LEZ NO MO!

    ONE GIRL'S, I MEAN "GUY'S" STORY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWdxvacU_g&feature=player_embedded

    In this video, this girl starts by saying she likes girls and was a lesbian, but wait! She can't be lesbian because she is "transgender". Bless this young person, but she doesn't have to subject her female body to an external source of testosterone.

    I don't want to blame this sweet looking kid. I blame the transgender community for promoting "transitioning", and society for telling lesbians that they are worthless. No one questions the idea that perhaps some serious underlying lesbian phobic attitudes are part of the reason these tomboys "transition".

    Well, I guess it's not as bad as in Iran where homosexuals are coerced into sex reassignment surgery. Western countries just go about surgically and/or chemically sterilizing their homosexuals in more subtle, refined ways. It's not a matter of whether or not sex reassignment surgery or "transitioning" is erasing gay and lesbian identity, it's a matter of degree, or how many.

    The eugencis of gay and lesbian children is going on beneath our noses, and the larger GLB community still supports the "T" which is actively involved in erasing lesbian and gay identity. Some lipstick lesbians who are femme and don't quite threaten patriarchy to its very core the way butch lesbians do will be allowed to exist, but the butch lesbians will, through the use of mutilating surgery to their breasts and genitals, and through a constant dose of "T" will be "transitioned" to FTM or transmen.

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  6. If the reader scrolls on down to the latest "Trans Trending, Who is Transitioning", and clicks on the videos of these 14 to 20 year old girls, the majority say that they have a girlfriend, or say something to the effect that they like girls. Listen carefully to the videos. It's interesting because they might say "I like girls", or "my girlfriend", but they never use the word "lesbian" to describe themselves. Once the word "transgender" comes out, the "lesbian" is dropped like it's toxic or something.

    Bless all these girls and girls and women everywhere...

    I just hope someone somewhere told them that girls are brave and beautiful just the way they are.

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  7. Heterosexual guys do not "feel" like lesbians from the time they are small, they feel like heterosexual males.

    Dirt makes a good point in that something just doesn't add up. Chaz Bono was a lesbian for years before she became a "man". Apparently, she felt like a lesbian when she was younger. She even wrote a book about coming out as a lesbian. Straight dudes might have a fetishized desire to watch lesbians as in porn etc. (the "lesbians" in porn are almost all straight women), but a straight dude would never say he felt like a lesbian growing up. Gee, Fred, I felt like a lesbian growing up. It just sounds strange coming from a straight dude, or any man. Biological females who "transition" don't have a fully functioning penis comparable to a biological male. Still, once they become trans, they drop the lesbian label and, in their minds, they become men. I think they are just after the status and privilege of being both male and outwardly seen as heterosexual. That must be very alluring considering how society views lesbians.

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  8. "No matter what they may call themselves, no matter what pronoun they "prefer", no matter what changes happens to their bodies, if they remain with/attracted to lesbians they truly have never really "felt" themselves to be men.

    This truth completely belies the whole female trans-ideology of "always feeling like a guy". "


    This makes sense in so many ways when we sit down and think about it. I know I might ruffle a few feathers with this post, but I'll go out on a limb here, so here goes. Speaking from a purely scientific point of view, because the biology and anatomy of males and females are different, in the most intimate way of feeling (sexual arousal), how can biological females possibly say that "I've always felt like a man"? I'm scratching my head and trying to figure it out. Women don't ejaculate like a man, and as a female how can I say that I KNOW FOR SURE HOW MEN EXPERIENCE SEXUAL AROUSAL? I have no way of knowing. Because the anatomy and biology is different, most people would probably agree that males and females experience sexual arousal differently. It's not a matter of one being better, it's just a matter of a difference. We seem to intuitively know this. However, biological females who "transition" (transmen,) whether they identity as lesbian or straight prior to "transitioning", would have us believe that they have always "felt like a man". It's amazing the mental gymnastics and thinking that goes along with the idea that, "I've always felt like a man". Prior to "transitioning", trans females experience sexual pleasure exactly like all other biological females. Apparently, they do this while all the time saying, "I've always felt like a guy inside". Even after "transitioning" and "T" (testosterone), do they experience sexual pleasure exactly like males? I seriously doubt it. Testosterone can enlarge the clitoris about an inch or two and there can be an increased sex drive, but do they really experience sexual arousal exactly like a male? I don't know, but I doubt it. I mean completely experience pleasure just like a man? Do they ejaculate? Many trans females opt out of "bottom surgery" because of the cost and multiple surgeries. I wonder if most people are aware of the fact that even after "transitioning" trans females (biological females who "transition") still orgasm primarily through the clitoris like all other females. Provided some loss of sensation doesn't occur due to surgery of the genital area, the skin grafts used to construct a "penis" are essentially sewn over the clitoris. The sexual pleasure still comes from the clitoris. Well, so much for "feeling like a guy".

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  9. "I KNOW FOR SURE HOW MEN EXPERIENCE SEXUAL AROUSAL?"

    You really believe all of our experience of gender boils down to how we are aroused? I find that strange? What about how we are in the world, how we relate to our bodies when we are alone, what about psyche, what about spiritual aspects of gender, what about archetypes? What about females who do ejaculate? You are within your rights to question or deny that we are what we say we are, certainly. It just has little relevance to how we live our lives, how we are understood socially, what we look like, how we experience our bodies, or the experiences we have post-transition.

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