Thursday, December 20, 2012

Psychiatry's Answers to Mental Illness

Besides sexual transition, name some other mental illnesses that require physical changes to the body, including removing or altering healthy body parts as treatment? And what has been the (general) success rates of those treatments?



  1. Yo! long time lurker, first time poster. Answer: hysteria, 'cured' by cliterodectomy (sp? apols...). Ugh, manifestations of patriarchy, eh? x

  2. Actually, I take that back. It was/is clit'ectomy for being oversexed or something, right? And hysterectomy for the other. Gah, it multiplies...

  3. Oh fuck, you've really uncovered the truth here, dirt. Well done. I guess the 98% of trans people who are happy with their surgeries better admit that everything about their lives is wrong. Never mind that they consented to the surgery, while hysterectomies and "clitectomies" were forced on women.

  4. Still deleteing comments like a child that NEEDS to lie to get her way. You're a real piece of work; but most everyone sees right through you.

  5. Dirt just doesn't want people coming in and screwing up her TRUTHS with all their crappy facts.

  6. I have hear that clitorectomies have been used quite successfully to treat women suffering from the mental illness called lesbianism.

  7. @ 2:31 AM

    Hahaha, good one.

    Again, people who have their clits partially or fully removed do not give consent. Not now with female genital mutilation, not in the past with attempts to cure lesbianism.

  8. Shame these broads' new winkers and hairy asses won't cure their mental illness. But most of them end up committing suicide so who cares!

  9. @ 2:53 PM

    Good point, why should we show anyone respect or understanding when they're just suicidal anyway?

  10. "Anonymous said...Shame these broads' new winkers and hairy asses won't cure their mental illness. But most of them end up committing suicide so who cares! December 21, 2012 2:53 PM"

    Anon, hair up your butt does NOT make you a man, neither can a clit ever become a "winker," because I couldn't be FURTHER from male and naturally have plenty of hair "up there" despite having never put a drop of testosterone in my body! It always infuriated me when these FtM's would make these over-the-top, TMI videos about their butt hair, because, like I said, I have hair but am actually MORE of a woman than some of those who claim to be hairless. I menstruated for the first time while still 11 and have large breasts, my voice plenty able to go way up into the sweet soprano range, yet my bottom is NOT "hairless" by any stretch of the imagination, and neither are my inner thighs. It's nonsense like that, I believe, that has so many impressionable girls believing they might be "male" despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    Proud Butch Woman,
    Iris (AKA "Goddess of the Rainbow")

  11. @ 7:00 PM

    No, trans folks don't think they're the opposite gender just because of how they look before transitioning. We don't think that hairy women are men, and we don't think that effeminate women are women.

    We know that our own gender does not match up to the gender that society assigned us. Some of us (not all) take hormones or have surgery in order to feel more comfortable in our bodies. Many of us don't change how we look at all, because how you look does not determine your gender.

    We're not trying to tell you that you're anything but 100% woman and proud of it.

    We want you to be proud of your gender identity.

    We also want to be allowed to be proud of ourselves and our gender identity.

  12. You mean "you don't think effeminate men are women," Anon? I know I've probably made a few typos, but "effeminate" can NEVER be applied to a woman! But in my own case, I was just like any other girl who DESPISED her monthly visitor and breasts and thought that maybe it might be worth it to "become" a "guy" named "Cyrus Robert" or "Robert Cyrus" or something along those lines. But then after seeing the utter misogyny spewed out in videos made by such people as CharlesAsher, I decided to quit watching. Then when my parents discovered I even had an account with "friends" changing their sex, it really hit the fan, so I had to delete it and never look back (lest I turn into a pillar of salt, lol). But now I'm 29, and the best Christmas present I could've ever gotten was to discover this blog and my permission to be proud of myself as a butch woman named Iris. (Besides, I never really liked Cyrus or Robert as names, anyway.)

  13. @ 7:35 PM

    I am not getting into a discussion about what a single word means. That way lies bullshit.

    That's awesome that you're proud. You take your pride to such a degree that it makes you sound kind of offensive and really turns me off to the idea of butch lesbians in general.

    Have you ever had that feeling when you have seen other people be really vocal about things that make them proud?

  14. "Have you ever had that feeling when you have seen other people be really vocal about things that make them proud?"

    Yes, that was EXACTLY how I felt as I watched maddening video after maddening video of those FtM's saying how "proud" they were of their "passing" abilities, but especially the CharlesAsher types who'd been on T for several years, thus destroying any resemblance of the beautiful girls they once were. She said, "I like to pee at urinals because nobody doubts you're a guy when they see you doing it," so naturally I could only hope she was peeing allover herself in the process, rotflmao!!!

  15. @ 11:48 PM

    Do you understand that while you're being proud of your own identity, you're making other people uncomfortable? So you're presenting yourself in a way that could make people not like butch lesbians?

    I might think you'd make a beautiful boy, but I'll never tell you that you shouldn't be proud of being a woman, and I would never tell you that you shouldn't be a butch lesbian. But just because that's right for you, that doesn't mean it's right for all the people you think were beautiful women.

    You don't have to like them personally. But do you need to be unkind to them?

  16. "Besides sexual transition, name some other mental illnesses that require physical changes to the body, including removing or altering healthy body parts as treatment? And what has been the (general) success rates of those treatments?"

    "Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD, also body dysmorphia, dysmorphic syndrome; originally dysmorphophobia) is a type of mental illness, a somatoform disorder, wherein the affected person is concerned with body image, manifested as excessive concern about and preoccupation with a perceived defect of their physical features.[1][2] The person thinks they have a defect in either one feature or several features of their body, which causes psychological distress that causes clinically significant distress or impairs occupational or social functioning. Often BDD co-occurs with emotional depression and anxiety, social withdrawal or social isolation."

    I’m not saying that all people who get plastic surgery have BDD, but some people are obsessed with cosmetic surgery. Below is a very sad example of an unhealthy obsession.

    Hang Mioku, now 48, had her first plastic surgery procedure when she was 28; hooked from the beginning she moved to Japan where she had further operations - mostly to her face.

    Following operation after operation, her face was eventually left enlarged and disfigured, but she would still look at herself in the mirror and think she was beautiful.

    Eventually the surgeons she visited refused to carry out any more work on her and one suggested that her obsession could be a sign of a psychological disorder.
    When she returned home to Korea the surgery meant Hang's features had changed so much that her own parents didn't recognise her.
    After realising that the girl with the grossly swollen face was indeed their daughter her horrified parents took her to a doctor. Once again the possibility that Hang had a mental disorder was raised and she started treatment.

    However, this treatment was too expensive for her to keep up and she soon fell back into old ways.
    Amazingly, she found a doctor who was willing to give her silicone injects and, what's more, he then gave her a syringe and silicone of her own so she could self-inject.
    When her supply of silicone ran out Hang resorted to injecting cooking oil into her face.

    Her face became so grotesquely large that she was called "standing fan" by children in her neighbourhood - due to her large face and small body.
    As Hang's notoriety spread she was featured on Korean TV. Viewers seeing the report took mercy on her and sent in enough donations to enable her to have surgery to reduce the size of her face.
    During the first procedure surgeons removed 60g of foreign substance from Hang's face and 200g from her neck.

    After several other sessions her face was left greatly reduced but still scarred and disfigured.
    And it would seem that even Hang can now see the damage she has done; she now says that she would simply like her original face back."

  17. "Besides sexual transition, name some other mental illnesses that require physical changes to the body, including removing or altering healthy body parts as treatment? And what has been the (general) success rates of those treatments?"

    Although Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD, also body dysmorphia, dysmorphic syndrom) is supposed to occur in both men and women at about the same rate, it’s clear that women are far more likely to get plastic surgery to surgically correct a perceived defect in their bodies.

    Women had almost 8.4 million cosmetic procedures, 91% of the total. The number of cosmetic procedures for women increased over 208% from 1997. The top five surgical procedures for women were: breast augmentation, liposuction, tummy tuck, eyelid surgery, and breast lift.

    Men had almost 800,000 cosmetic procedures, 9% of the total.

    I have no problem with some cosmetic procedures, but what cultural forces drive women to plastic surgeons?

  18. Um, the treatment for body dysmorphic disorder is to NOT get surgery.

    Dirt's question is about disorders that require surgery.

  19. Every study that I've come across says women are far more likely to have anorexia than males.

    • 5-10 million women and girls suffer from anorexia and/or bulimia, in the United States alone.
    • Approximately one million men and boys suffer from anorexia and/or bulimia, in the United States alone.
    • 25 million people suffer from compulsive overeating, in the United States alone.
    • Eighty-six percent of people with eating disorders report the onset of the illness by the time they reach the age of 20 (by no means is an eating disorder "less severe" when the eating-disordered person is above the age of 20).
    • The death rate for eating disorders is approximately 20 percent.
    • An estimated 85-95% of people with anorexia nervosa and bulimia and 65% of people with binge eating disorders are female.
    • Approximately 80% of women want to lose weight.

    It's important to remember that it is possible to die from anorexia. Because the body goes without proper nutrition for so long, it can tax the whole body.

    Data Synthesis From 143 potentially relevant articles, we found 36 quantitative studies with sufficient data for extraction. The studies reported outcomes of AN during 166 642 person-years, BN during 32 798 person-years, and EDNOS during 22 644 person-years. The weighted mortality rates (ie, deaths per 1000 person-years) were 5.1 for AN, 1.7 for BN, and 3.3 for EDNOS. The standardized mortality ratios were 5.86 for AN, 1.93 for BN, and 1.92 for EDNOS. One in 5 individuals with AN who died had committed suicide.


    Individuals with eating disorders have significantly elevated mortality rates, with the highest rates occurring in those with AN. The mortality rates for BN and EDNOS are similar. The study found age at assessment to be a significant predictor of mortality for patients with AN. Further research is needed to identify predictors of mortality in patients with BN and EDNOS.

  20. The anorexia information also has nothing to do with surgery.

    It's like people just come on this blog to spam stuff.

  21. Dirt, I think there is something you should see:

    If the link doesn't work, just search "Angelo Heddington" on YouTube.

    Sorry,I know this isn't really related to this post =/

  22. Mental illness leading to severe obesity leading to gastric band surgery. Yes I am aware that there is now adjustable band surgery available but it's still an intense surgery with drastic consequences for both the better and worse.



  24. Hate to burst your bubble but being Trans*gender describes a gender identity not a mental illness. I'm not sure if it's still in the DSM as one, but it shouldn't be, and they're going to take it out if it is, same as they redefined homosexuality as a sexuality rather than a mental illness. So, while being trans* can cause mental illnesses such as depression and anxiety, it in itself is not one.