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Thursday, November 22, 2012

Happy Turkey Day!

Hope everyone is having a Happy Thanksgiving and gives thanks where it is deserved.

I wanna give thanks to all those taking the hard road, who challenge the Gender Straight Jacket rather than conform or worse mimic. Authenticity is a beautiful thing, and well worth striving for despite its difficult path.

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  1. I see you're deleting comments again.

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  2. i strive for authenticity through my transition. to have others accept my gender identity, recognise it, and to feel at home in my body is the authenticity that i aim for.

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  3. Happy Turkey Day!

    I always eat too much, then I have to go on a long walk to burn off the turkey and pumpkin pie.

    Question: What were people thankful for before their glorious "transitioning"?

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    1. Yea guts that poor murdered bird into you thanksgiving my arse..

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  4. I am now, and have always been, thankful for the loving people in my life who have supported me both before and during transition, and to the coworkers who haven't judged me before or during, and for the complete strangers on the internet who show me kindness and love. I'm thankful for the fact that the love I receive greatly outweighs the hate on this blog.

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  5. "Question: What were people thankful for before their glorious "transitioning"? "

    Oh jeez, what ugly sarcasm.
    I was and am thankful for my family and friends, that I have a roof over my head and food to eat, that I live in of the richest countries in the world and don't have to deal with dictators or civil war.

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  6. "i strive for authenticity through my transition. to have others accept my gender identity, recognise it, and to feel at home in my body is the authenticity that i aim for."

    "I am now, and have always been, thankful for the loving people in my life who have supported me both before and during transition, and to the coworkers who haven't judged me before or during, and for the complete strangers on the internet who show me kindness and love. I'm thankful for the fact that the love I receive greatly outweighs the hate on this blog."

    "Question: What were people thankful for before their glorious "transitioning"?

    Oh jeez, what ugly sarcasm.

    I apologize if I sounded sarcastic. I didn't bring up the subject of "transitioning". Of all the things in the world, what does "transitioning" have to do with Thanksgiving?

    I bet "transitioning" was the first thing that the Pilgrims thought of during their cold, bitter winter.

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  7. @ 4:28 PM

    You sound sarcastic again. Your apology even sounds facetious.

    Thanksgiving has plenty to do with transitioning for those of us who are transitioning. We get to be thankful for the opportunity to be true to ourselves and to be with the friends and family who love us and support our transitions, among other things.

    This holiday season, there are people who are thankful to have health insurance, people like my best friends are thankful that gay marriage is now legal in my home state and that their union is finally recognized legally. Things that the pilgrims didn't think about, but we're still allowed to give thanks for them. What we have to be thankful for evolves, both along with the evolution of our country, and the evolution of us as individuals.

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  8. “Thanksgiving has plenty to do with transitioning for those of us who are transitioning. We get to be thankful for the opportunity to be true to ourselves and to be with the friends and family who love us and support our transitions, among other things.”

    "What we have to be thankful for evolves, both along with the evolution of our country, and the evolution of us as individuals."

    Thanksgiving and "transitioning"....again, I didn't bring it up. Since this individual seems to be obsessed with giving thanks for “transitioning”, please allow me to be as candid and honest as I know how.

    (1.) I'm so thankful that I didn't get both my breasts carved off my body in what is commonly known as “top surgery” or “chest masculinization”.

    (2.) I'm thankful that my identity doesn't come in a vial of testosterone that I have to inject myself with for the rest of my life.

    (3.) I'm so grateful that I didn't mutilate my exquisitely beautiful female genitals.

    (4.) Also, I’m very grateful that my parents didn’t give me puberty suppressing drugs to intentionally delay my puberty because of “gender dysphoria”.

    (5.) I’m very thankful that I’m a female, and I’m not ashamed of being called woman or female.

    Of course, what we have to be thankful for evolves. I agree with this statement, but what does this have to do with transitioning? Humans have made great progress in science, technology, medicine, education, literacy, etc., and by in large most of it has been beneficial. Science and technology in and of itself means nothing. It's how it's used that matters. I believe it's safe to say that much of the technological progress in industrialized countries was spurred on by the burning of fossil fuels. Although the basic underlying science behind the earth's naturally occurring greenhouse effect was known in the mid 1800s, and we knew that increased green house gases could contribute to climate change, humans merrily went on our way building more coal fired power plants. I apologize for the rambling nature of this post, but my main point can be summed up by this quote from world's greatest physicist:

    “It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.”

    Albert Einstein

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    1. And I would be very thankful if you fucked off back to hell were you come from you fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex..

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  9. "What we have to be thankful for evolves, both along with the evolution of our country, and the evolution of us as individuals."

    Question:

    How is the mutilation of healthy female breasts and genitals related to human evolution? How is radically altering female reproductive systems via an exogenous source of testosterone related to human evolution?

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    How is FTM (female to male) "transitioning" beneficial to the evolutionary success of the human species?

    No one has convinced me that FTM (female to male) "transitioning" (elective mastectomies on healthy breasts, a life time of testosterone, surgery on female genitals) is scientifically sound or ethical right. I firmly believe that there are ethical implications involved in radically altering healthy female breasts, genitals, and reproductive systems. Are we to believe that any technology that allows us to erase female identity doesn't come with its own unique history and concerns? Because of an old technology called ultrasound that was first invented around the 1950s, 163 million female fetuses were lost forever in sex selective abortions. What we as humans do has an impact. Never forget this. One day in say five or six hundred years from now it might be possible to quickly change one's sex even down to the DNA level. Is this something that we as humans really want? Please think about this for awhile. Do we really believe that we are so advanced that all sexism and misogyny have disappeared from our minds and our collective conscious? I would like to think so, but I seriously doubt it.

    By the way, bacteria are a lot older than and eukaryotes and later humans. The more complex an organism is no guarantee of evolutionary success. For all our knowledge, Homo sapians represent a tiny dot on the 4.5 billion history of the earth. It's always seems that the more we as humans think that we are somehow superior to all other organisms, and our technology will always save us, mother nature comes along and smacks us in the face.

    Technology is a marvelous thing, but critical thinking skills and wisdom should come first. So, when people say that transitioning is the one thing that they are grateful for at Thanksgiving, I'm left wondering what to say.

    Equating "transitioning" with evolutionary progress in humans is so Orwellian to me that I really don't know how to respond.

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  10. How is [homosexuality] beneficial to the evolutionary success of the human species?

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  11. "No one has convinced me that FTM (female to male) "transitioning" (elective mastectomies on healthy breasts, a life time of testosterone, surgery on female genitals) is scientifically sound or ethical right. "

    Seriously, you are a total drama queen. My chest surgery cost less than a used car, didn't result in scars, and there wasn't even enough pain to warrant a single opiate painkiller. The testosterone I take is made from yams, takes about 5 minutes a week to administer, and all of my health numbers are still bueno after 10 years. I really don't think your dramatization is warranted. I'd be much more worried about people's character in the coming generations, because that's what will affect our future. I can't relate to thinking that what sex someone presents as is the biggest issue to freak out about. You just aren't able to separate other people's needs from your vested personal interest. We aren't coming to your house and forcing YOU to transition, are we?

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  12. @ 6:01 PM

    I'm obsessed with being thankful for my ability to embrace my identity, without having to question anyone else's identity.

    Why are you obsessed with being an asshole to people who don't think the same way you do?

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  13. (1.) That's great that you're thankful for that. Why does that have anything to do with anyone who's not you?

    (2.) Nobody's identity comes from a vial of anything. So... I guess I'm grateful that nobody believes that except trans-haters like you.

    (3.) Yeah, I'm grateful that nobody is going to mutilate mine, or anyone trans person in the US. Because sex-reassignment isn't genital mutilation.

    (4.) That's great that you're grateful for that. I'm grateful that parents and kids are given the option to work together with their doctors to make that choice.

    (5.) I'm grateful that I'm trangender, and I'm not ashamed to identify as transgender.

    I'll add this: I'm grateful for all the people in the world who aren't jerks to me because I'm transgender. I'm grateful that the people on this blog who insist on saying mean-spirited things to and about transgender people are the minority. I'm grateful that we don't need the support of awful people like you to be thankful for who we are.

    I'm also grateful for the fact that I have the ability to tell you that you are awful. That I live in a country of choices and free speech. And that your attempts to take choice away from transgendered people will not come to fruition.

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  14. Trans-deniers are murderers.

    You, anon who keeps comparing SRS to genital mutilation. You're complacent in the deaths of every trans person who was murdered for being different.

    You, anon who keeps vilifying transitioning, you are a murderer.

    Your hate, your attempts to spread shame, all helps to reinforce a culture of hate against people who don't conform to gender stereotypes, both transgendered or not. You are giving that culture of hate and violence the perfect breeding grounds. Every time you don't stand up for the rights of every gender when you have the opportunity(including trans), you are making yourself even more guilty of every beating, every murder, every rape of a transgendered person.

    Every hateful thing you say is another nail in the coffin of an innocent human being who died because of intolerance.

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    1. I agree they are murderers trans people murderers filthy scumbag haters go back to hell were you belong you hateful demons !

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  15. "And I would be very thankful if you fucked off back to hell were you come from you fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex"

    As to being a “fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex”, I only have one thing to say. Well, at least they didn't tell me to die in a fire like someone instructed Dirt to do.

    Gentle trans people always amaze me. They are so placid and peaceful until some intrepid person has the audacity to describe what "transitioning" really entails. We are all supposed to pretend that this glittering, mystical, magical word "transitioning" doesn't come with a surgeon's scalpel or a life time of cross gender hormones. Also, they have an aversion to anyone thoroughly questioning them on some delicate subjects that they don't want people to ask. For example, do we really know the long term effects of years of an exogenous source of testosterone on biological females? Or, do we really understand what we are doing by giving puberty suppressing drugs to "transgender" eleven or twelve year old children?

    I have always said that if I were certain that (a.), (b.), (c.) and (d.) below were all true, that I would more willing to embrace “transitioning” (surgical removal of both healthy breasts, a life time of testosterone, surgical alteration of female genitals, possible hysterectomy). I would keep my mouth shut if I knew all the following were true.

    (a.) No one ever lives to regret transitioning
    (b.) Culture, internalized misogyny, peer pressure play no role whatsoever in one’s decision to “transition”
    (c.) Prior to hormones or surgery, it’s easy to distinguish transsexual from non transsexual, and the science on this subject is clear and sound. That is, similar to a blood test for cholesterol, it's possible to go into a doctor's office and get a blood test to see if your really trans, or should be transsexual. Or, in other words, it's something that can be measured and quantified.
    (d.) The only way to treat gender non-conforming individuals, or people who don’t fit neatly into traditional sex roles of masculinity and felinity is through the use of hormones and surgery.

    At the risk of repeating myself, on this very blog, when pressed and prodded, trans identified people have admitted that it’s possible for people to regret transitioning. Also, they finally admitted that culture and peer pressure might play a role in the decision to transition. Since they have already admitted that both a. and b. are not always true, now we get to the delicate subject that the trans community doesn’t want to discuss. What if we are wrong? If we are wrong, we are just carving up healthy female bodies. How else can we phrase this reality? In a phalloplasty on a biological female, six to eight inches of skin has to be harvested from some donor site like the forearm or thigh. Think about this carefully. The skin on the arm or thigh is not the same as erectile tissue. It can’t engorge itself with blood like a penis. This skin is essentially surgically attached to the genital area of females. This does appear to radically alter female genitals. Is there a polite way of saying this? If we look at the extent to which healthy female breasts, genitals, and reproductive systems are altered, it sort of feels like female genital mutilation to me. I apologize for feeling this way. I suggest the following experiment. If at all possible, observe an actual “chest masculinization” procedure being performed, or watch everything that is involved in a phalloplasty on a biological female.

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  16. “Double incision/Bilateral mastectomy

    The double incision technique is effective for individuals with a medium to large amount of breast tissue (cup size C and above, often also recommended for cup size B). In this method, large incisions are made horizontally across each breast, usually below the nipple. The skin is then peeled back so that the mammary glands and fatty tissue can be removed with a scalpel. The muscles of the chest are not touched. Certain areas of harder-to-reach fatty tissue may also be removed via liposuction (such as areas near the armpits). Once the breast tissue has been removed, the excess chest skin is trimmed and the incisions closed, leaving two seams/scars just below the line of the pectoral muscles.
    The techniques for treatment and placement of the nipples with the double incision method vary among different surgeons. Usually, the original nipples are completely removed, trimmed to a smaller size, and are then grafted onto the chest in a higher, more aesthetically-male location. Some surgeons use a "pedicle" technique, wherein the nipples are left partially attached to the body via a stalk of tissue. They are then repositioned in a more aesthetically-male location, while their connection to the body via the pedicle stalk remains intact. They may or may not be trimmed to a smaller size. The pedicle option is sometimes chosen in an attempt to maintain sensation in the nipples.

    Occasionally, some surgeons may choose not to preserve or graft the nipples in any way, but this is a far less common option. If, for some reason, the nipples cannot be retained during the procedure, or if the nipple grafts are lost because of tissue death, there is an option of tattooing "nipples" onto the chest at a later date, which can have an aesthetically satisfactory outcome. Two "drains" consisting of long, thin tubing are placed along the length of each incision. The drain tubing exits the body through a small incision hole under each armpit, and is attached to a small plastic bulb on either side. The tubing/bulbs are to help drain off and collect excess blood/fluid so that it will not build up under the skin. They are left in place for several days to a week, depending on how much fluid continues to drain. Drains need to be periodically emptied of fluid by the patient (you may need a friend to help with this).
    The surgery itself takes about 3 to 4 hours, and is done under general anesthesia. A binder is usually worn for one to three weeks to aid in healing.
    The final result of the surgery usually provides for a well-contoured male chest, but it leaves two significant horizontal or U-shaped scars below the pectoral area.

    Potential pros for the double incision method:

    •For guys with big chests, this is the method that provides the best results for a male-contoured chest.
    •Scars, while large, are placed under the lower border of the pectoral muscles, so that muscle development in that area can make them slightly less noticeable. Chest hair growth with testosterone therapy may also cover the appearance of scars.

    •This method provides for easier access to and removal of all mammary tissue, as compared to the keyhole procedure.
    •Proper repositioning and resizing of nipples makes for a more male-looking chest.

    Potential cons for the double incision method:

    •Prominent scars on the chest (some may also experience raised or reddened scars)
    •Partial or complete loss of nipple sensation
    •Potential loss of nipple grafts due to tissue death
    •Nipple placement may be uneven or not aesthetically pleasing
    •Nipple size/appearance might not be pleasing
    •The appearance of "dog ears" under the armpits (excess, protruding skin at the end of the incision)
    •Appearance of puckering along the scars
    •Areas of numbness in the armpits due to liposuction in that area
    •May require revision
    •The usual risks of any surgery, including bleeding, infection, problems from anesthesia, blood clots, or death (rare).

    http://www.ftmguide.org/chest.html”

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  17. As to (c.) listed above, one person who used to identify as trans and took testosterone states:

    “There are no medically reliable tests to clinically differentiate transsexuals from non-transsexuals, prior to hormone therapy, without information regarding personal identification.”

    (scroll on down)

    This certainly seems like an educated person to me.

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/

    I knew full well that I was highly likely to catch holy hell for speaking my mind. They deliberately come on this blog although they know full well Dirt’s opinions on certain subjects. This is no secret to anyone. Then, someone proceeds to be thankful for “transitioning” as in “what we are thankful for on Thanksgiving”. World peace is the first thing that comes to my mind. Transitioning doesn't even make my list. Most people don’t sit around the Thanksgiving Day dinner table talking about their surgery or hormone use. It just doesn't have that festive Thanksgiving Day ambiance.


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  18. “You, anon who keeps comparing SRS to genital mutilation. You're complacent in the deaths of every trans person who was murdered for being different.”

    These are certainly harsh words. I have no history of violence against anyone. Please let me repeat this. I have no history of violence. Moreover, why does this individual assume that only trans identified people are murdered? Gay men and lesbians are also brutally murdered in some rather gruesome ways. Are trans identified people more likely to be victims of hate crimes than gay men or lesbians? I seriously doubt it. Corrective rape of lesbians is well documented in South Africa. Women are killed, beaten, and assaulted all the time. An estimated one in every three women worldwide experiences violence, with rates reaching as high as 70 percent in some countries. Violence ranges from rape to domestic abuse and acid burnings to dowry deaths and so-called “honor killings.

    *Nearly 1 in 5 women has been raped at some time in her life.
    *One in 4 women has been a victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in her lifetime.
    *One in 6 women has experienced stalking victimization during her lifetime in which she felt very fearful or believed that she or someone close to her would be harmed or killed. Much of stalking victimization was facilitated by technology, such as unwanted phone calls and text messages.
    *Almost 70 percent of female victims experienced some form of intimate partner violence for the first time before the age of 25.
    *Approximately 80 percent of female victims of rape were first raped before age 25.

    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2011/p1214_sexual_violence.html

    The lives of girls are so devalued that 163 million female fetuses have been aborted. Females are so devalued in some cultures that the genitals of girls are scrapped away in an ancient practice called female genital mutilation. Since we are on the subject of SRS (sex reassignment surgery), how many gay men in Iran have been coerced into state sponsored surgical castration? In Iran, the government will help pay for sex reassignment surgery, but homosexuality is punishable by death. Transsexuals don’t live pleasant lives in Iran, but it’s better than being openly gay which is a death sentence for sure. SRS gives the outward appearance of heteronormality. That is, instead of a man loving a man, now we have a female and male. I hate to say this, but sex reassignment surgery doesn’t have a stellar, flawless record as far as human rights are concerned. There have been times in which it has been used as a form of social control, specifically the erasing of gay and lesbian identity. If we are going to talk about SRS (sex reassignment surgery), let’s list everything. People who stepped outside the boundaries of traditional sex roles have always existed, but they weren’t always called “trans”, and they didn’t always get surgically castrated.

    I know that people don’t want to hear this, but sex reassignment surgery sure does look genital mutilation to me.

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  19. "You, anon who keeps vilifying transitioning, you are a murderer."

    Wow! What strong language! I don't even like to kill spiders that I find in my house. Why not call "transitioning" what it really is? Doesn't "transitioning" involve surgery and hormones? I hate to say this, but every now and then people die in surgery. For the life of me, I don't understand why people act as if "transitioning" is some kind of sacred act akin to a religious pilgrimage. This word didn't even exist twenty years ago, or was rarely used.

    Lopping off healthy female breasts, carving up healthy female genitals, and giving twelve year old kids puberty suppressing drugs are things that never should be questioned. I’m the most evil person on the planet for questioning any of this. Even sixteen year old girls can't wait to go on "T" as in testosterone. They are binding their breasts at age thirteen. Female genital mutilation is a thousand year old practice. You have perhaps a couple of decades of the same tired old trans talking points.
    I refuse to cast off my critical thinking skills and logic and go along with the charade any longer.

    "Your hate, your attempts to spread shame, all helps to reinforce a culture of hate against people who don't conform to gender stereotypes, both transgendered or not."

    WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! AND WRONG AGAIN…

    I have said that gender non-conforming people exist on several occasions. I have no problem with this at all. Indeed, I see it as a blessing. What I've always questioned is why we need to surgically castrate people because they don't fit neatly into the cultural prescribed views of what constitutes masculinity and femininity. YOU WANT TO SURGICALLY AND CHEMICALLY CASTRATE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE GENDER NON-CONFORMING. WHY DO YOU WANT TO SURGICALLY CASTRATE GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE? I was gender non-conforming as a child, so don’t tell me that I don’t know something about not fitting into what is best described as culturally dictated forced femininity. I don’t believe that girls should be given puberty suppressing drugs because they won’t play with dolls, and instead prefer to play with trucks. I don’t believe little boys should be branded “trans” or labeled with GID because they don’t like sports, or are too effeminate for their own good. I hate to say this, but here goes. Your precious “transitioning” only reinforces stereotypical sex roles.

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  20. @ 8:48 PM

    You show violence in every word of hate you say about transgendered people. I never said only transgendered people are murdered. That's fucking stupid. Stop saying fucking stupid things.

    People who encourage hate of gays and lesbians are murderers.

    People who encourage hate of anyone are murderers.

    You encourage the hate of transgendered people. You are a murderer.

    The truth is harsh.

    @ 10:03 PM

    I'm calling you what you are. A murderer. You value the lives of spiders over the lives and happiness of transgendered people. I don't want to make decisions for other people about how they embrace their gender identity. You do.

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  21. "Most people don’t sit around the Thanksgiving Day dinner table talking about their surgery or hormone use. It just doesn't have that festive Thanksgiving Day ambiance."

    People who have had their lives saved by surgery and hormone use will talk about it. Why do you get to decide what's appropriate for other people to talk about with their family at thanksgiving?

    Let other people be thankful for what they have to be thankful for. We're not asking you to stop being thankful for the things that are important to you. Stop oppressing us.

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  22. @ 10:03 PM

    You have no critical thinking. You have only hate. You are a hateful person. You are an oppressor. You are hurting people. You are hurting me. I am physically sick, I'm depressed, because of the hateful words you insist on posting. You are not showing non-violence.

    You are hurting people.

    Stop hurting people.

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  23. just so you know im not trans im a bio straight guy and i dont like the way you spread hate about theses poor people you are an evil demon i only no about this site by accident.stop hating these people they are human beings like everyone else... oh yes and this happy turkey day crap those birds suffer in those conditions they are forced to live in its disgusting you are eating tortured meat just so you know shame on you...

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  24. I'm trying to understand why sixteen year old girls are so eager to get their breasts lopped off. TRANSITIONING is NOT a human being. It involves surgery on healthy genitals and breasts.

    Question: People have ALREADY ADMITTED that it's possible to regret "transitioning" and culture or peer pressure might play a role in the decision to transition. So, here is my question. How many mutilated female bodies are we willing to sacrafice on the alter of "transitioning"? Can people give me an exact number? Please give me a number.

    If you are wrong about FTM transitioning, it sure as hell does look a lot like female genital mutilation. No one can give me an exact number, and no one seems interested because there is nothing unique or special about the VIOLENCE BEHIND THE MUTILATION OF HEALTHY FEMALE BODIES. IT HAS A THOUSAND YEAR HISTORY. THE WORD "TRANSITIONING" HIDES THE BLOOD AND VIOLENCE BEING CARRIED OUT AGAINST FEMALE BODIES.











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  25. "You have no critical thinking. You have only hate. You are a hateful person. You are an oppressor. You are hurting people. You are hurting me. I am physically sick, I'm depressed, because of the hateful words you insist on posting. You are not showing non-violence."

    Transmen spreading the love around and demonstrating peacful non-misogynistic, non-sexist, non-violence.....

    (addressed to a self identified butch lesbian)

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html


    ".....You are such a weak little old hag of a bitch. Get raped by a bunch of niggers you old crow."

    "You made this story up you fucking ugly OVER-THE-HILL sagging tits, fat ass ugly repulsive CUNT. You're just jealous that you're OLD AS HELL and can NEVER EVER transition successfully the way us young dudes do! We are the men you can never, ever be. Medical science, nanotechnology and genetic engineering is advancing in ways your tiny female, estrogen-dominant gossipy female brain can NEVER imagine. CUNT. And being 25 I will reap the benefits and you will just be a corpse. You're not even masculine, this shit you're doing here is totally female...gossipy manipulative psychological warfare. Why don't you take your fat, over-sized, child-bearing hips sagging cottage cheese ass back in the kitchen and cook your disgusting wrinkled, obese crew-cut trainwreck you call a "girlfriend" another Swanson dinner you useless OLD HAG. KNOW YOUR PLACE and stop treading on us. Stupid useless cunt. No wonder there is so much misogyny...it's because of bitches like you. Suck a fat one and get AIDS".

    SOURCE:

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    Apparently, transitioning, or a desire to transition doesn't always create caring, empathetic, and stable humans. Transitioning is not some kind of magical panacea.

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  26. "And I would be very thankful if you fucked off back to hell were you come from you fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex"

    Why on earth do people treat medical procedures that radically change healthy breasts and genitals as if they somehow fall under the realm of religion or something profoundly sacred? "Transitioning" is NOT a human. People who identify as trans are part of the human family and worthy of respect, but there is nothing sacred about surgery or a life time of hormones.

    "And I would be very thankful if you fucked off back to hell were you come from you fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex."

    Respectfully submitted the 29th day of November 2012

    signed,

    "fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex" (FDTHCR)




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  27. "oh yes and this happy turkey day crap those birds suffer in those conditions they are forced to live in its disgusting you are eating tortured meat just so you know shame on you..."

    Yes, there is an element of truth to this. I was vegetarian for a long time, but I admit that I break down at Thanskgiving and have a little turkey. Turkeys raised on large industrialized farms are in a real sense tortured.

    Tortured turkey meat is bad, but cutting up healthy female breasts and genitals is a good thing.

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    1. Sweet you are missing the point these people are trying to better their lives and they choose to do so turkeys chickens and other farmed animals are forced to live in tiny cages were they can't even move ftm have a choice animals do not..

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    2. Forgot one thing there's a petition on line in Uganda they are planning to kill all the gay people i signed all ready if anybody is interested

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  28. "So, here is my question. How many mutilated female bodies are we willing to sacrafice on the alter of "transitioning"? Can people give me an exact number? Please give me a number. "

    What the fuck does that mean? Are you asking how many people are sacrificed for transitioning? The number is 0.

    How many people are mutilated for transitioning? 0.

    Transitioning is not female mutilation.

    "Transitioning is not some kind of magical panacea"

    No, it's not. No one thinks it is. You just think that other people think it is.

    Are you saying that because there are some transgendered people out there who are hateful, that gives you the right to be hateful?

    They need to stop hating.

    You need to stop hating.

    Stop using them as an excuse for being horrible and hurtful. You are choosing to be awful to other human beings.

    "People who identify as trans are part of the human family and worthy of respect, but there is nothing sacred about surgery or a life time of hormones. "

    There's nothing inherantly bad about it either. Respect our choices. Your constant disrespect of our choices is a disrespect of our identities. It's hurtful. You are causing human being harm.

    Stop hurting me.

    You are causing me, a human being harm.

    Please stop.

    I'm begging you to please stop hurting me.

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  29. @ 3:11 PM

    Hurting animals is wrong. Hurting people is wrong.

    Making an informed decision to transition doesn't hurt people.

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  30. "So, here is my question. How many mutilated female bodies are we willing to sacrafice on the alter of "transitioning"? Can people give me an exact number? Please give me a number. "

    "What the fuck does that mean? Are you asking how many people are sacrificed for transitioning? The number is 0.

    How many people are mutilated for transitioning? 0."

    "I had top surgery on Jan. 9. When my surgeon removed the bandages a few days later, I was shocked by how terribly butchered I looked. I was literally speechless. Opened my mouth to speak, but no sound came out.

    I tried to take it in stride, though -- crossed my fingers that it'd look better as it heals. But it looks even worse as I heal. Someday I'll fill you all in about what it looks like. I'm not up for that right now, though.

    I can barely stand seeing myself in the mirror. I can barely stand taking off my shirt to shower. My dysphoria is off the charts.

    Honestly, it was less traumatic having breasts. At least when I had breasts, I could cope by reassuring myself they'd be gone someday. But now... they are gone (sort of... he left tons of tissue behind) and I'm supposed to be free of hunching my shoulders and layering shirts, etc. But I'm actually more ashamed of my chest than I was before.

    I feel traumatized like I've never before in my life.

    I paid $6,000 for this butchered mess -- a mess I'm going to live with for the rest of my life. I can't afford to have someone fix this. My surgeon has said he'd do some "touch ups," but I can't even imagine allowing him to lay a finger on me again. Also, this mess requires more than "touching up." It needs another full surgery, IMO.

    I'm devastated. Absolutely devastated. Beside myself with grief. I don't know if I can live like this. :'("

    http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=54691.0

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  31. "Transitioning is not female mutilation."

    How can anyone rational person say this when even some members of the trans community state that some people do regret transitioning?

    My suggestion:

    Replace the word "transitioning" with what FTM (female to male) transitioning entails and see how it sounds.

    “Double incision/Bilateral mastectomy

    The double incision technique is effective for individuals with a medium to large amount of breast tissue (cup size C and above, often also recommended for cup size B). In this method, large incisions are made horizontally across each breast, usually below the nipple. The skin is then peeled back so that the mammary glands and fatty tissue can be removed with a scalpel. The muscles of the chest are not touched. Certain areas of harder-to-reach fatty tissue may also be removed via liposuction (such as areas near the armpits). Once the breast tissue has been removed, the excess chest skin is trimmed and the incisions closed, leaving two seams/scars just below the line of the pectoral muscles.
    The techniques for treatment and placement of the nipples with the double incision method vary among different surgeons. Usually, the original nipples are completely removed, trimmed to a smaller size, and are then grafted onto the chest in a higher, more aesthetically-male location. Some surgeons use a "pedicle" technique, wherein the nipples are left partially attached to the body via a stalk of tissue. They are then repositioned in a more aesthetically-male location, while their connection to the body via the pedicle stalk remains intact. They may or may not be trimmed to a smaller size. The pedicle option is sometimes chosen in an attempt to maintain sensation in the nipples.

    Occasionally, some surgeons may choose not to preserve or graft the nipples in any way, but this is a far less common option. If, for some reason, the nipples cannot be retained during the procedure, or if the nipple grafts are lost because of tissue death, there is an option of tattooing "nipples" onto the chest at a later date, which can have an aesthetically satisfactory outcome. Two "drains" consisting of long, thin tubing are placed along the length of each incision. The drain tubing exits the body through a small incision hole under each armpit, and is attached to a small plastic bulb on either side. The tubing/bulbs are to help drain off and collect excess blood/fluid so that it will not build up under the skin. They are left in place for several days to a week, depending on how much fluid continues to drain. Drains need to be periodically emptied of fluid by the patient (you may need a friend to help with this).
    The surgery itself takes about 3 to 4 hours, and is done under general anesthesia. A binder is usually worn for one to three weeks to aid in healing."

    http://www.ftmguide.org/chest.html”

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  32. "How many people are mutilated for transitioning? 0."

    Zero regrets....

    "I got really excited at her proclamation, and rushed over to the mirror to see her handiwork. My heart almost dropped out of my chest when I saw it. It was horrifying. Like empty balloons hanging off of me. She hadn’t cut away any of the skin, nor resized the areolas. So instead I had empty sacks of skin sagging and drooping in front of me. I could barely breathe I was so upset. Seeing my look of terror, she made sure to comfort me by saying that it would tighten up and look great in a month or two. WRONG.

    Now, if she had cut ANY of the skin, those words would be true. But since she literally had just done lipo on a full B-cup guy, there was nowhere for that skin to go. So it just sat there, traumatizing me for ages. I felt like a leper. I was glad that I didn’t have to wear a binder anymore, but every time I looked in a mirror, I had an out of body experience. It was almost scary to see the damage she had done to my chest, day in and day out. I started disassociating from myself, and refused to go topless anywhere. I felt pain every time I had to look at my poor, still very hidden pecs. I spent a year like this. Depressed and so out of touch with myself that it was crazy. When one day I realized that I should actually just save money and get a revision (not the brightest crayon).
    "

    http://www.originalplumbing.com/2011/03/11/tuckblog-botched-surgery-becomes-beef/

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  33. For every statement from a person who regrets sex reassignment surgery, I can find a hundred statements from people who are happy with their surgery.

    How can a rational person say that SRS is genital mutilation when so many people who have it are healthy and happy?

    100% of women who have gential mutilation forced on suffer physical and emotional damage from it.

    Less than 5% of people who have SRS regret it, and an even smaller number of people have long-term negative health effects related to it.

    Regret doesn't equal mutilation.

    Mutilation is forced on people.

    You can't regret something that's forced on you.

    Regret implies that a choice was made.

    Why are you hurting me?

    Why are you telling people that I'm a victim?

    Why are you comparing a surgery that makes me happy and whole to something as awful as genital mutilation?

    Why do you hate me?

    Why do you make me cry? Why do you say these things that keep me awake at night wondering how people can be so hateful? What did I do to deserve your hatred? What did I do to deserve this hurt?

    Why are you hurting me? Why? Please stop hurting me.

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  34. "29 June 2004
    1 Day After Surgery:
    Things are still feeling great. My chest looks really good. I've gotten to see it a couple times when we've changed ot adjusted the bandages."

    "16 November 2004
    So, onto the stuff that seems more important. My life has felt different and more improved since surgery. It has alotted me more freedom than I expected or realized I would experience. It may sound cliche, but I really feel like I didn't even know what I was missing before surgery. Now I'm able to comfortably sleep and swim topless, and get up in the morning and throw on a shirt and jacket without having to struggle with a binder. These aren't things I take for granted, but I am very aware of and thankful for them every day. I am looking forward to being able to go shirtless more next summer without having to worry so much about protecting my scars from sun damage."

    "18 June 2005
    One year post-op:
    one year
    Just under a year from my surgery date and things are looking and feeling great. I am very happy with my surgery results and I feel confident going shirtless to swim or hang out at the beach. I am so thankful to be able to do those things, to be able to throw on a t-shirt on a hot day and not worry about binding. I may not have the most perfect chest out there, but it has improved my quality of life immeasureably and there's no way I could think of it as imperfect."

    http://web.archive.org/web/20070302175152/http://kpscapes.tripod.com/surgeryjournal.html

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  35. "Transitioning is not female mutilation."


    "It is important to note that most phalloplasty procedures require multiple surgical visits as well as some revisions. The procedures can involve pain and discomfort, require significant recovery time, and often leave large areas of visible scarring. Because of the nature of using skin grafts, there is always a risk of tissue death and loss of part or all of the penis. Other potential complications include the extrusion of testicular or penile implants, the formation of a stricture (an abnormal narrowing; blockage) or fistula (an abnormal connection; leakage) in the newly constructed urethral passage, and infection. There may also be damage to the nerves of the donor area, resulting in numbness or loss of function. Erotic sensation may be changed or diminished. And the results may not be as aesthetically pleasing as one might like them to be. Also, one must consider the usual risks of any surgery, including bleeding, infection, problems from anesthesia, blood clots, or death (rare).

    Phalloplasty procedures also tend to be very expensive (between $50,000 to $150,000) and are often not covered by insurance."

    http://www.ftmguide.org/grs.html#phallo

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  36. "Transitioning is not female mutilation."


    Risks/complications of metaidoioplasty and phalloplasty

    Possible complications specific to metaidoioplasty without urethral
    lengthening include:

    • dissatisfaction with the length of the penis (shorter than expected)
    • change in sensation: loss of sensation, persistent tenderness, or hypersensitivity
    • temporary or permanent narrowing of the vaginal opening, making
    penetration difficult
    • change in urine spray, resulting in splashing of the labia and vaginal skin

    Possible complications specific to urethral lengthening include:

    • urethral fistula: opening between the urethra and the skin, leading
    to leakage of urine (very common: occurs in around 45% of
    phalloplasties)
    • partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new urethra
    • narrowing or closure of the new urethra
    • hair growth in the urethra (from hair-bearing tissue used as urethral lining)

    Phalloplasty includes all the possible complications of urethral
    lengthening as well as possible:

    • partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new penis
    • numbness or hypersensitivity of the skin of the penis
    • decreased sexual sensation, possibly with decreased ability to have orgasm
    • compromised sensation and/or function of the hand and wrist of the donor arm (approximately 5% of patients need a long period of
    physiotherapy to recover fully)
    • dissatisfaction with the size or shape of the penis
    • excessive scarring in the donor sites (arm/thigh)

    [PDF]
    A guide for FTMs - Transgender Health Program - Vancouver ...

    transhealth.vch.ca/resources/library/tcpdocs/.../surgery-FTM.pdf

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  37. "Today I am one-year post op from my top surgery. There have been many changes over the course of the year, both physically, emotionally, and mentally. Overall I am extremely happy. "

    http://neutrois.me/2012/02/21/top-surgery-1-year-post-op/

    "I’m keeping in mind what I’ve been told: it can take a full year for your chest to settle into it’s new shape post-op. Even if I have no further revisions, I’m still totally ecstatic about my chest, and am happy every day that I’ve had my top surgery."

    http://genderoutlaw.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/chest-5months-postop/

    "I love my new chest. Just love it. Of course, it will be nice to see some more definition as I continue to work the pecs and in the event that I start T, but even without, I dig it, how it looks and how it feels, both when I touch it and when it is touched by one sweet K."

    http://mylifewithtits.wordpress.com/tag/top-surgery/

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  38. Transitioning is still not genital mutilation.

    Effects of elective surgery is not mutilation.

    The cost of having surgery is not mutilation.

    People who are happy with their surgery are not mutilated.

    People who feel regret are not mutilated. They made the wrong choice. They are a rarity, there are options to help them out. They were not mutilated.

    Transitioning is not female mutilation. That is a fact.

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  39. Why do you hate me anon? Why won't you answer me? Why do you call me mutilated? Why do you want to take away the option for a surgery that could be good for me? Why does the regret of a few people mean that I can't make that decision for myself?

    Why are you disgusted by me?

    Why do you think I'm a helpless victim?

    Why do you hate me? Why won't you answer me?

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  40. You know what else is really expensive and causes a lot of people to feel regret? Marriage. Should we start campaigning against the right to get married?

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  41. "Your hate, your attempts to spread shame, all helps to reinforce a culture of hate against people who don't conform to gender stereotypes, both transgendered or not. You are giving that culture of hate and violence the perfect breeding grounds. Every time you don't stand up for the rights of every gender when you have the opportunity(including trans), you are making yourself even more guilty of every beating, every murder, every rape of a transgendered person."

    Transmen spreading the love around in a totally non-sexist, peaceful way...and the typical asshole feminist bitches had better believe it...

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2012/08/ftm-where-self-hating-women-and-hatred.html

    "What I see here are typical asshole feminist bitches who know nothing about FTMs, what they go through mentally, physically and emotionally with their bodies and sense of self. ...ugly ass cow. bitch, bitch....BITCH...fuggly ass dyke. Fuck off you bulldagging bitch."

    What the heck do I know? I'm just a fuggly ass dyke and a bulldagging bitch. "Typical asshole feminist bitches" don't know diddly squat. We are all the same, but are too stupid to know better. We best keep our mouths shut. I should die in a fire like someone told Dirt to do. If transmen say they are the most persecuted people in the whole world (sniffle sniffle), who am I to disagree with them.

    "Typical feminist asshole bitches" just don't know when to keep their mouths shut.

    signed,

    "bulldagging bitch", "typical feminist asshole", aka
    "fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex" (FDTHCR)

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  42. Nobody ever said that there's no such thing as an asshole transman.

    Does that give you an excuse to be a transman?

    Do you feel OK blaming someone else for your hatred?

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  43. "Every day for the the rest of my incredible life I will celebrate having taken this massive step towards being comfortable in my own skin. And no more regrets."

    http://www.originalplumbing.com/2012/02/14/ralph-fox-fisher-living-the-dream/

    "Overall I had a really good experience, I am happy with my chest and I think very highly of Dr. C!"

    http://pansy-boy.tumblr.com/post/17679671825/found-the-report-i-wrote-on-my-surgery-from-the-french

    "15 days post op.

    So happy."

    http://meandmychimpanzee.tumblr.com/post/29073250902/15-days-post-op-so-happy-done-with-andrew

    A video about a man who is happy with his phallopasty and the sensation he still experiences (warning, you will see a penis if you watch this): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdAU1giFATY

    Some truth about the sensation retained after phalloplasty, since I'm on the subject: http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=118571.0


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  44. "By: S

    BOTTOM LINE: DON’T choose to have surgery with Dr. Leis. If you feel you have no other choice, WAIT. You will be glad you did. For those who want a more detailed explanation, read on. Dr. Leis is dishonest and incompetent. I speak from personal experience, having suffered a botched bilateral mastectomy (FTM chest surgery that he performed. Here is my story. Before the surgery, I had very tiny breasts; not even A cup. When I raised my arms high over my head, or looked at my reflection in dim light that cast no shadows, I looked flat-chested. Therefore, top surgery was a low priority for me, and I by no means wanted to rush into it. I was willing to wait to get top surgery until I could receive a letter from my therapist, because when I consulted Dr.Leis, I knew he was dishonest. Several of the answers he gave me about the laws and limitations regarding FTM reassignment surgery were flat out lies; I knew due to my internet research and discussions with other surgeons. Therefore, I had a very bad feeling about him from the start, but I ended up having to get my top surgery from him. (Because I wasn’t trans enough for my therapist, due to liking my hair long and occasionally cross-dressing in my old female clothes, she refused to write me a letter for top surgery and I had to go to Leis because he was the only surgeon I knew who doesn’t require letters. She also refused to let me move forward with my transition until I had my breasts out, but I won’t go into detail about that.) Anyway, despite all my better judgement and intuition, I had the mastectomy with Dr. Leis. While I recovered, I stayed in a rented room in his office building, which was filthy and disgusting. (I even found a soiled bed liner from a previous patient stuffed behind the headboard of my bed!)"

    http://www.susans.org/Sex_Reassignment_Surgery/FTM_Surgeons/6924.html

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  45. The surgery seemed to have gone well until a week later, when he removed the bandages to take out the drains. Then I saw the scars were large and very uneven, and my nipples still looked female. He seemed perplexed about why “they” had not stitched the drain in on one side. (He never told me anyone else would be involved in the surgery, and denied that anyone was afterward.) He assured me the scars would fade to nothing and my nipples would flatten out on their own in a few months, then he taped my wounds (insufficiently), and sent me home a few days later… …without a prescription for antibiotics. By the time my designated driver took me home (only a few hours later), my wounds were aching and oozing, and I had to go to the emergency care clinic because they had become infected. After a little internet research, I discovered Dr. Leis has a long record of infections due to his unwillingness to prescribe preventative antibiotics after surgery. (As for the stipulation that he does not wear gloves, I can’t comment, because I don’t know.) When I went back for a follow-up appointment about a month later, he assured me my result was “beautiful” and healing perfectly, despite the scars becoming red, raised, and painful, and the nipples not flattening a bit. He refused to listen to any of my complaints or questions, dismissing me as a perfectionist. (For the record, I wasn’t expecting perfection, but even to my untrained eye I looked much worse afterwards than before.) At my time of writing this, it has been about half a year, and nothing has changed since that first month. My scars are still an angry red – very obvious against my white skin – and they cause me frequent stabbing pains. My nipples still protrude and look female. I cannot go shirtless in public due to shame and self-hatred. The few times I tried, people avoided me out of disgust, and several called me out as a transsexual because the scars made it so obvious what used to be there. I refuse to ever take my shirt off in public again until (or should I say if) I can get my scars revised, which so far is not working at all. I have frequently cried myself to sleep over my mutilated chest, as well as the death of my lifelong dream of finally being able to go shirtless without shame. I am trying to file a lawsuit against Dr. Leisfor his incompetence and his dishonesty, in order to earn money to pay for my costly revisions as well as to put a much-needed dent in his undeserved good public reputation. If any of you who read this have had a similar nightmarish experience with this surgeon and are willing to provide evidence for my case, please contact me at the email address specified below (those underscores are supposed to be there; they are not typos) and put “Dr. Leis” in the subject line. It will be much appreciated. s_s_s_1_9_8_4@yahoo.com
    Email: s_s_s_1_9_8_4@yahoo.com
    Date added: Jul 28, 2011


    http://www.susans.org/Sex_Reassignment_Surgery/FTM_Surgeons/6924.html


    I hope the person identified only as S is doing better.

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  46. http://www.clevelandplasticsurgery.com/transgender-surgery

    Warning! Graphic Material.

    This is the actual "top surgery". SEE THE MIDDLE VIDEO titled "Dr. Medalie performs double incision top surgery with nipple and areolar grafting" to gain a better understanding of "chest masculanization". As I understand it, females with a larger C or D cup size usually undergo double incision with nipple and areolar grafting. Women generally have larger nipples and aerolas than men. The nipple is litterly cut off the patient, reshaped, and the aerola is resized. Two large incisions are made so that healthy breast tissue is removed. See the two large incisions. Look closely at the video.

    Warning! This is very graphic. WATCH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO FEMALE BODIES. Why are healthy female breasts literally carved off female bodies and their nipples and areolas are cut down to size? This is based on some amorphous hard to pin down term called "gender dyshporia" which is rather difficult to define precisely, and no doubt comes with a significant amount of cultural influences. Nipples can be erogenous zones on females. If healthy nipples are cut away to be reshaped, sensation can be lost. Unlike breast enlargement which is meant to enhance what already exists, the idea behind "chest masculanization" or "top surgery" is to surgically cut away female appearance, or female identity.


    Unless we can gain a better understanding of exactly what "gender dysphoria" is, I contend that perhaps, just perhaps "chest masculanization" or "top surgery" is a form of female mutilation. It's hard to explain this uncomfortable feeling that still lingers and gnaws at me. As to FTM (female to male), I believe that it's impossible to clearly distinguish between internalized misogyny that all women must experience and "gender dysphoria". How is this possible? It would take this entire blog and at least fifty other blogs or websites to properly describe the various ways in which the female body has been mutilated throughout history.

    It could be that we are living in one of the most misogynistic periods in history and we can't even see ourselves for who we have become.

    http://www.clevelandplasticsurgery.com/transgender-surgery

    (***scroll down and watch middle video, Dr. Medalie performs double incision top surgery with nipple and areolar grafting)

    Again, graphic material. This could be viewed as a form of violence against the female sex.

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  47. "It could be that we are living in one of the most misogynistic periods in history and we can't even see ourselves for who we have become."

    That is just a stupid statement. Can you seriously believe that we were better off when we couldn't vote? Or when it was legal for a man to rape his wife? Or when girls were married off before they even hit puberty?

    Sex reassignment surgery is not genital mutilation.

    Guess what, if you post a video of any major surgery, it's going to be graphic. That does not mean it's mutilation.

    Here's open heart surgery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCytfWSN45U

    Here's craniotomy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwNUp6Vkgd0

    Here's a cecearean:
    http://youtu.be/YoCN18ftKzI

    WARNING: these are graphic videos. None of them are mutilation. Just like sex-reassignment surgery.

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  48. More testimonials from http://www.susans.org

    Yes, you can have bad results from surgery. It's important to do research and be comfortable with your surgeon. But the vast majority of people who have top surgery are happy with the results.

    "The room was rather big and nice. It looked more like a hotel room than a hospital room. Of course it was cleaner and didn't have fitted carpet and the bed was a hospital bed, but there was a satellite TV, telephone, sofa, several chairs and a table, balcony, own bathroom with shower, a refrigerator and a pin rail in addition to some other furniture."

    "To me it looks so good I'm not sure if I can believe my own eyes!"

    "And it still feels totally unreal! That I'll never have to look down and see those repulsive things again (repulsive on me! not on just anybody). Awesome."

    "Well- ITS DONE!My avatar pic is 5 days post op and i'm really pleased. Had the op Thursday morning then had to go back into theatre thursday night cos one side wouldn't stop bleeding. The drain on the left side was removed Sunday but the one in the right was still filling up so hopefully that will be removed today cos it seems to have slowed down. The staff at the Hallamshire were absolutely amazing- they were great with me and also my family- even to the point of ringing my wife at half one in the morning to let her know that i had come back ok from my second trip to theatre. They also let my family use the day room on the ward between visiting hours as we live a two hour journey from the hospital. I really cant rave about the hospital enough. I dont seem to be in any pain at the moment apart from where the drain site is. Thats more uncomfortable than pain tho. Now i just have to try to be patient before i can get back to a normal life. I desperately need to get back to the gym- the only problem i ve found with having my chest surgery is that i now have an uninterrupted view of my stomach and can see how large it really is!"

    "Got my top surgery yesterday - couldn't be happier"

    "So far I'm pretty happy with the results...
    For less than two weeks post-op I think I'm feeling pretty good - except for strenuous activity I'm basically at a more cautious level of normal. I never took any painkillers after I left the hospital and the worst thing was the drains."

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  49. "A video about a man who is happy with his phallopasty and the sensation he still experiences (warning, you will see a penis if you watch this): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdAU1giFATY"


    Notice the large scar area on the arm where skin is taken.

    Didn't they say it took four operations over a coures of a year.

    To me, the skin tone of the "penis" seems a bit different.


    Question: Does this "penis" have erectile tissue? I'm assuming that people know what erectile tissue is. The skin taken from a donor site such as the thigh, forearm, or other part of the body is not the same type of tissue that comprises a penis on a biological male. Can this penis ejaculate sperm to get a female pregnant?


    I know that people don't want to hear this, but the penis is part of the male reproductive system which happens to be connected to other organs. With a penis on a biologcial male erection occurs because sinuses within the erectile tissue of the penis become filled with blood. The arteries of the penis are dilated while the veins are passively compressed so that blood flows into the erectile cartilage under pressure.


    Question: Is this "penis" in the video attached to any of the following organs? If not, why? After all, it's supposed to be a penis.


    *Testicles (testes) that produce sperm

    *Epididymis

    *Vas deferens

    *Prostate gland

    *Bulbourethral glands


    Yes, I admit it's a good facsimile of a penis, but it comes with a pump and can never make a woman pregnant. It's theoretically possible to take rolled up skin from my forearm or thigh and stick it on my rear or any part of my body. I've always fancied a tail. A surgeon could take skin from my thigh or forearm and fashion a tail. I don't mean to sound so callous, but it's possible to attach rolled up skin almost anywhere. That is, if the skin graft takes and there is no tissue death.


    By the way, the sensation still comes the clitoris which is under or below the "penis" (skin from a donor site such as thigh or forearm). It's no surprise that biological females experience pleasure through their clitoris. A phalloplasty on a biological female is essentially for cosmetic reasons. That is, it doesn't actually function like a penis on a biological male. I hate to say this, but it's only the outward appearance of a penis.


    On a final note, a good dildo won't set you back $50,000 (a lot more for a good surgeon) and the batteries are cheap.

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  50. "Unless we can gain a better understanding of exactly what "gender dysphoria" is..."

    we have a pretty good understanding of what it is. What is it that you don't understand? I have a feeling that people here have said plenty which could help your understanding but you seem to ignore us.

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  51. Erectile Implants in Female-to-Male Transsexuals: Our Experience in 129 Patients

    Of 129 patients, 76 patients (58.9%) still have their original implant in place. Fifty-three patients (41.1%) needed to undergo either removal or revision of the prosthesis due to infection, erosion, dysfunction, or leak. Forty-one patients underwent a replacement of the prosthesis, nine needed a second revision, five needed a third revision, and one patient needed a fourth revision of prosthesis. Malposition of prosthesis was corrected by surgical repositioning so that removal or revision could be avoided. Of 185 prostheses used in 129 patients, 108 (58.4%) still remain in place, with a total infection rate of 11.9%, a total protrusion rate of 8.1%, a total prosthesis leak rate of 9.2%, a total dysfunction rate of 13%, and a total malposition rate of 14.6%.

    Conclusions

    Despite high complication rates, implantation of a hydraulic erectile prosthesis remains the best option for achieving the possibility of sexual intercourse in female-to-male transsexuals.


    ts-si.org/files/doi101016jeururo200903013.pdf

    So, there is high complications rate, but it's still considered a success.

    Pumps can fail. This is why many FTMs opt out of bottom surgery.

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  52. "Here's open heart surgery:"

    No one doubts that open heart surgery is bloody.

    I'm glad this individual mentioned open heart surgery because THERE ARE MULTIPLE WELL ESTABLISHED, SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND MEDICAL TESTS FOR HEART DISEASE.

    HEART DISEASE CAN BE DIAGNOSED AND THE RESULTS CAN BE QUANTIFIED. THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR AND PRECISE. THE RESULTS WILL BE THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT CULTURE OR COUNTRY YOU ARE IN. THIS IS THE MEASURE OF GOOD SCIENCE.

    HOW IS "GENDER DYSPHORIA" QUANTIFIED? CAN WE PICK IT UP AND EXAMINE IT. HOW IS IT MEASURED?


    The concept of gender identity or "gender dysphoria" seems so tied or interwomen into the culture one lives.

    ***sorry for the caps



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  53. I want to return to this issue of gender dysphoria, and relate it to how girls and women really feel about their bodies, and how culture, the devaluing of girls and women, and childhood sexual abuse might play a role in body dysphoria that is so common in females. I was a tomboy when I was growing up. Indeed, my fondest memories as a child are of me running through the woods in back of our house, building forts, and playing baseball with my brother. I don't know why, but while most girls were playing with dolls, there was nothing I enjoyed more than the smell of the grass and the muffled ping sound of a ball as it struck the bat at the sweet spot for a solid double. I knew how to slide into third at age twelve.

    When I started puberty, I felt intensely awkward as if what was happening to my body meant that I could no longer hang out with the boys. I had to put away my baseball mitt that I loved and become a girl. Boys always seemed to have more fun and far more freedom to do as they please. Being a boy represented a form of Independence that I could never sense in a girl. Besides regretting puberty and all the changes in my body, thinking back and analyzing my life experiences, there was another reason why I felt especially uncomfortable with my breasts. I can say with all certainty that my body dysphoria or revulsion I had towards developing breasts was partly related to my grandfather touching me inappropriately on my developing breasts. I can't recall the exact age, but I was about twelve or thirteen and I had just started developing breasts. One warm summer day my dad was going to drive my grandfather home since grand dad didn't have a car. I was wearing a light tan colored shirt and I wasn't wearing a bra at that time. It's funny how I can recall what I was wearing that day. I was sitting in the back seat of the car with my grandfather. My dad stopped at the post office downtown and got out of the car. I was alone in the backseat with my grandfather. I recall him reaching over to me and touching my breasts. It was no accident at all. He was trying to caress my breasts. I didn't know what to say, and I got out of the backseat of the car and started to walk home. I don't know why, but I didn't tell anyone. I was deeply ashamed more than anything else.

    It might make me sound old, but I was born before people started using the words "top surgery". I grew up in the country, and no one even heard of the word "trans". At any rate, if someone told me that they could remove my breasts, I would have done it right then and there. Because I felt so insecure, and always hid my breasts, I would have had it done at age sixteen. I associated anyone even looking at my breasts with that sick, terrifying feeling I felt in the pit of my stomach when my grandfather's hand felt my breasts. After this incident, I recall clinching my fists and hitting my chest until it bruised. I didn't want to be a woman, and I didn't like my body. My body and breasts were betraying me, and were a source of fear and shame. When I was around sixteen years of age, I started wearing loose fitted sweat shirts to hide my breasts. My hair was short, and on more than one occasional I was mistaken for a boy. I would wear a baggy shirt, put on a heavy coat, put my hands in the front pockets of my jeans like boys and men do, and slouch over.

    It took me about ten to twelve years before I finally began to cherish and appreciate my female body. It was a slow process that required a great deal of soul searching, and it didn't happen over night. With a loving and patient partner, I actually enjoy my breasts touched now. It's very sensual and erotic. I'm so fortunate that I was born before "top surgery" because I sure as heck would have had them lopped off. I know it might sound strange, but I was in my mid-twenties before I finally realized that my breasts were actually things of beauty.

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  54. @ 7:22

    That is a study of surgeries done from 1996-2007. There have been huge changes in the surgery within that time. It's folly to try to compare the results of someone from 1996 to someone from today.


    @ 7:41 PM

    If you're sorry about using all caps, then stop doing it. You have this neat "delete" function on your keyboard.

    There are lots of different ways for different kinds of medical issues to be quantified. Some of them are physical tests. Some of them are mental and emotional evaluations. A lot of the require asking patients to answer questions about themselves (like the psychopathy test).

    It's also not true that tests or results are the same through every culture. Science can be affected by culture just as much as anything else (please don't make us have a discussion about this here. That's something that needs it's own thread).

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  55. I was talking to my little brother and wondering why people hate me for being trans. And he said because those people are so full of hate for themselves, and they have to find other people to take that hate out on.

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  56. "I was talking to my little brother and wondering why people hate me for being trans. And he said because those people are so full of hate for themselves, and they have to find other people to take that hate out on."

    Of course, there is no hatred involved in the mutilation of healthy female bodies. It's so engrained and pervasive that it's taken for granted.

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  57. There is hatred involved in the mutilation of healthy female bodies. Sex reassignment surgery is not mutilation.

    Trans-bashers want to believe that chest reconstruction surgery is the complete cutting away of the breasts. That is not true. The most common chest reconstruction (emphasis on "reconstruction") is the double incision, which is the same kind of surgery used for breast reduction. It is used by many women who have health concerns due to large breasts. In both breast reduction and chest reconstruction, breast tissue is left, the nipples are moved and may be re-sized, and the breasts are reshaped. Chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction.

    Trans-bashers don't agree that there is a medical reason for chest reconstruction, but transgendered people and their doctors do see a medical reason. It's not the business of trans-bashers to decide whether that's reasonable.

    Now on to phalloplasty and why it's not genital mutilation.

    The intention of female genital mutilation is to remove the ability of women to enjoy sex. It involves removing the clitoris and can involve removing all or part of the inner and outer labia. Informed consent is not part of genital mutilation.

    Phalloplasty leaves the clitoris and labia intact, and does not reduce the ability to enjoy sexual stimulation (older versions of the surgery could result in the loss of sensation, but that is no longer an issue). Phalloplasty requires informed consent.

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  58. "Trans-bashers want to believe that chest reconstruction surgery is the complete cutting away of the breasts. That is not true. The most common chest reconstruction (emphasis on "reconstruction") is the double incision, which is the same kind of surgery used for breast reduction. It is used by many women who have health concerns due to large breasts. In both breast reduction and chest reconstruction, breast tissue is left, the nipples are moved and may be re-sized, and the breasts are reshaped. Chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction."

    I urge the reader to read this rather disingenuous paragraph again. Then, read it once more so that that we can gain some insight into how some people really think about female anatomy in general, and female breasts in particular. It’s very informative and enlightening.

    “Chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction.”

    It’s just like “breast reduction” (try dragging around enormous size 42 DD cups), but now it’s EXTREME BREAST REDUCTION. Since masculine, ripped, chiseled men have manly “chests” and women have “breasts”, the word “breasts” isn’t used. We never apply the word breasts to FTM, but it's compared to “breast reduction” so that people won’t think that it’s essentially elective mastectomies. Judging by the name “chest reconstruction”, the goal apparently is to reconstruct a chest. Doesn't the word reconstruction mean to rebuild or reshape something that once existed? In this case, we are trying to "reconstruct" a male looking chest (never use the word breasts) where non existed before. Unfortunately, the pesky healthy female breasts just happen to get in the way of achieving our goal. Is this what they mean when they say, "chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction"?

    “CHEST MASCULANIZATION”, "TOP SURGERY”, “FEMALE TO MALE CHEST RECONSTRUCTING" SAME THING…ONLY DIFFERENT NAME.

    Google "chest masculanization", google "top surgery", and google "chest reconstruction" and FTM. See, it's the same thing. Because it certainly appears to be elective mastectomies in healthy twenty year old females, every now and then it's rephrased as "chest reconstruction". I can understand why they would want to rephrase it.

    I’m aware of breast reduction procedures for women who have extremely large breasts. Very large breasts can cause back pain and strain the shoulders. A woman might have very large breasts, or exaggerated asymmetrical breasts as in this photograph

    http://www.vgplasticsurgery.com/BreastReductionPhotoGallery.htm

    Try carrying around size 44 DD cups every day. I've known some women with extremely large breasts, and it's uncomfortable for some of them to even run. There is a reason that many insurance policies will cover breast reduction to relieve back and neck pain.

    ·Large, heavy breasts can cause back and neck pain, skin irritation, and posture problems. The constant pull of heavy breasts may make bra straps leave painful indentations in a woman's shoulders. Breast reduction surgery can eliminate these problems in most cases.

    ·Reduce the limitations that large, heavy breasts place on participation in sports or other activities. Some physical activities may be painful or awkward for women with large breasts.

    http://www.webmd.com/healthy-beauty/breast-reduction

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  59. Chest reconstruction, Extreme Breast Reduction?

    "Trans-bashers want to believe that chest reconstruction surgery is the complete cutting away of the breasts. That is not true. The most common chest reconstruction (emphasis on "reconstruction") is the double incision, which is the same kind of surgery used for breast reduction. It is used by many women who have health concerns due to large breasts. In both breast reduction and chest reconstruction, breast tissue is left, the nipples are moved and may be re-sized, and the breasts are reshaped. Chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction."

    QUESTION: DOES THE WOMAN IN THIS SURGERY THEATRE VIDEO LOOK LIKE SHE NEEDS BREAST REDUCTION? SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS A SMALL TO AVERAGE SIZE B OR C SIZE CUP. HER BREASTS CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN BEFORE THE DOUBLE MASTECTOMY.

    Please don’t insult my intelligence by comparing this to breast reduction. The breasts aren’t being trimmed down so to speak because they are very large and heavy, or one breast is markedly asymmetric to the other breast. The healthy female breasts are being surgically removed to create a masculine male appearing chest. It's essentially elective mastectomies on healthy breasts. How else can we explain it?

    Dr. Daniel Medalie performs FtM top surgery (double incision mastectomy with nipple grafting)

    WARMING GRAPHIC VIDEO! PLEASE TAKE NOTE. IT’S CALLED FTM TOP SURGERY (DOUBLE INCISION MASTECTOMY WITH NIPPLE GRAFTING). THIS IS FTM "TOP SURGERY".

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting

    PLEASE LOOK AT THIS VIDEO AND NOTICE THE PERFECTLY SHAPED MEDIUM SIZED BREASTS ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A YOUNG FEMALE PERHAPS IN HER TWENTIES.


    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting)

    Again, this essentially amounts to what can be described as elective mastectomies on healthy breasts.

    NOW, COMPARE THIS VIDEO TO THESE PHOTOS OF ACTUAL BREAST REDUCTION.

    http://www.vgplasticsurgery.com/BreastReductionPhotoGallery.htm

    See the difference?

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  60. To the trans person who has repeatedly said he is being hurt by this blog and the nasty comments made:

    I am not trans, and though I think dirt makes some very valid points in her blog, I hate the way she goes about it and my heart goes out to you and others she and her groupies are hurting with their words.

    I appreciate your very direct approach in expressing your pain and I'm sorry it's not being taken seriously. I hear your words, they go directly to my heart, and I am sending you Love. I'm also pretty sure there are other reader who don't comment and who are feeling compassion for you and other trans commenters here, who come across MUCH more intelligently & HUMAN than the trans bashers.

    My Respect & Love to the trans commenters here trying to educate, but don't do it at the expense of your sanity, it's not worth it.

    With you in Love before politics. xox

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  61. HEY! MR. OR MS. HUMANIST:

    "To the trans person who has repeatedly said he is being hurt by this blog and the nasty comments made:

    I am not trans, and though I think dirt makes some very valid points in her blog, I hate the way she goes about it and my heart goes out to you and others she and her groupies are hurting with their words.

    I appreciate your very direct approach in expressing your pain and I'm sorry it's not being taken seriously. I hear your words, they go directly to my heart, and I am sending you Love. I'm also pretty sure there are other reader who don't comment and who are feeling compassion for you and other trans commenters here, who come across MUCH more intelligently & HUMAN than the trans bashers.

    My Respect & Love to the trans commenters here trying to educate, but don't do it at the expense of your sanity, it's not worth it. "

    PLEASE WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO OF ELECTIVE MASECTOMIES ON HEALTHY YOUNG WOMEN. YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE MR. OR MS. HUMANIST TO SEE THE VIOLENCE BEING CARRIED OUT AGAINST THE FEMALE SEX.

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting)

    copy and past the URL

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  62. HEY! MR. OR MS. HUMANIST, what is so humanist about the following? I'm sick and tired of transgender acting like they are the most oppressed people in the world.

    (addressed to a self identified butch lesbian)

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html


    ".....You are such a weak little old hag of a bitch. Get raped by a bunch of niggers you old crow."

    "You made this story up you fucking ugly OVER-THE-HILL sagging tits, fat ass ugly repulsive CUNT. You're just jealous that you're OLD AS HELL and can NEVER EVER transition successfully the way us young dudes do! We are the men you can never, ever be. Medical science, nanotechnology and genetic engineering is advancing in ways your tiny female, estrogen-dominant gossipy female brain can NEVER imagine. CUNT. And being 25 I will reap the benefits and you will just be a corpse. You're not even masculine, this shit you're doing here is totally female...gossipy manipulative psychological warfare. Why don't you take your fat, over-sized, child-bearing hips sagging cottage cheese ass back in the kitchen and cook your disgusting wrinkled, obese crew-cut trainwreck you call a "girlfriend" another Swanson dinner you useless OLD HAG. KNOW YOUR PLACE and stop treading on us. Stupid useless cunt. No wonder there is so much misogyny...it's because of bitches like you. Suck a fat one and get AIDS".

    SOURCE:

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/12/so-much-fear-and-hatred-from-this-trans.html

    WHAT IS SO HUMANIST ABOUT THIS?

    "And I would be very thankful if you fucked off back to hell were you come from you fucking demon trans hating cuntosauras Rex"

    Who the hell feels my pain? I believe that you have no idea what pain is.

    MR. OR MS. HUMANIST, YOU ONLY SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. IT'S ONLY HATE IF IT'S COMING FROM "TRANSBASHER".

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  63. HEY! MR. OR MS. HUMANIST... Do you really believe that "chest masculanization", "top surgery", or "FTM chest reconstruction" is just another form of breast reduction? Do you really believe this? If you really believe this, you are either delusional, or you are the type of person who can can smugly lie to themselves and shut out some rather unpleasant reality.

    In the video, the surgeon can be said "this is the typical male areola" as he cuts and reshapes the areola. Don't be a piss ant "humanist" and have the courage to look at it. Perfectly shaped medium sized breasts on a healthy female being carved off.

    "Trans-bashers want to believe that chest reconstruction surgery is the complete cutting away of the breasts. That is not true. The most common chest reconstruction (emphasis on "reconstruction") is the double incision, which is the same kind of surgery used for breast reduction. It is used by many women who have health concerns due to large breasts. In both breast reduction and chest reconstruction, breast tissue is left, the nipples are moved and may be re-sized, and the breasts are reshaped. Chest reconstruction like this could be more accurately called extreme breast reduction."

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20(double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting)

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