Monday, September 17, 2012

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning (Age 18) (Age 19) (Age 15) (College age) (Age 16) (Age 18) )Age 22) (Age 18) (Age 22)

Given recent long term studies on the high suicide rate of post-transition peoples, look at these young women good, because some of them will die long before their time.



  1. I also feel that young people are transitioning who may not need to. But I don't mourn their loss of anything, because I can't quantify what that loss *is* without projecting my own experience onto them. Does Dirt believe we can't have a self without knowing a "female self"? I guess so, though I can't imagine how I'm supposed to do that! How does a self have a gender? Perhaps Dirt reacts viscerally to the idea that one's gender can be separate from one's body, or that one's self can be separate from one's body. I can understand that knee-jerk reaction on some sort of Whitman-esque plane I suppose. But without the tragic narrative to guide us, only our truth is left, and that is incontrovertible.
    I believe that the whole "tragic" narrative of transness has been created by the mainstream to keep a gate on who can be allowed to legitimately transition. In a way, I see trans people's status as a people in terms of liberation to be about where gay people were at in the fifties (in America). For such an aberration of "normal" behavior to be tolerated and digestible by society, the sympathy of others must be incurred. We are so much more acceptable as legitimately trans if we have attempted suicide or hurt ourselves before transition. A rare medical abnormality or condition is so much easier to allow. In the same way, gay people were much more acceptable if they simply *couldn't* accept themselves. If they lived in hiding and kept their relationships a secret, they could incur sympathy and thereby a measure of social acceptability. If we accept, as we do, that gay is what people *are*, then expecting them to adopt a deferential position towards society because they are gay, to not be open or proud, outspoken, or visible, is nothing less than totally fucked. We assign to gay people a "sad" life of isolation, and by saying so, we create it and prolong it. It's called social control, and at it's essence is the fear that people who are different will accept themselves, or worse- revel in their true lives, and *know* their own truths. Fear that they will live a life that never rejects itself and know that they are, in fact, not *different* from anything at all, but that their own lives are the reference. I think that partly what the women on this blog are reacting to is the acceptance of the tragic trans narrative by YouTubers, the incorporation into an identity that's not really much of anything to base an identity on. These women don't want to see young people waste their time accepting something that's not their own truth, but nobody seems to realize that for many trans people, the truth is much more powerful and incontrovertible.
    If the tragic narrative were not perpetrated upon us, we would be be no less trans and probably way more joyous. We would tell our exact truths, and we increasingly do. I would place trans people, their varying identities, their practices, their bodies-altered and unaltered squarely in the group of those people who are staved off from accepting themselves, and I do blame the tragic trans narrative in part. But it's a process of liberation. Currently we are misunderstood, ridiculed, mistrusted, dissected, and aspersions are cast upon us. I apologize for the lengthy dissertation, but I felt like writing today.

  2. Can you link to some of these studies? I'm curious.


  4. 5:51: Here is a link to the most recent study of trans health mental health, including suicide:

    The post Dirt linked to doesn't specifically deal with trans mental health and provides no actual study. She links to a review of book criticizing psychiatry in general.

  5. "In a way, I see trans people's status as a people in terms of liberation to be about where gay people were at in the fifties (in America)."

    Well, let's hear it for liberation. It's one of those feel good words that people toss around when they don't have anything better to say. There are several issues that I would like to cover, but what I have to say can't be properly addressed in this little blog.


    Historically, sex reassignment surgery has been used as a form of social control, especially the erasing of gay and lesbian identity. Trans activists don't want to touch this most delicate subject, but For example, in Iran the government will help pay for sex reassignment surgery, but homosexuality is punishable by death. Simply google this because a great deal of information is available to anyone who takes the time to research this issue. Trans activists dance and dart around some very delicate issues, but why not bring it out in the open?

    "Although it has some of the strictest laws on sexuality and same-sex relations in the world, Iran also has a reputation for an extremely liberal sex-change operations industry. According to the BBC, the Iranian regime recently made sexual reassignment even more accessible by announcing that health insurance companies must cover the full cost of sex-change operations, which can cost upward of $3,000. According to the BBC, Iran performs more sex-change operations than any country in the world except for Thailand; the surgery industry has attracted patients from all over the Middle East and as far away as Eastern Europe. Official statistics for 2007 put the number of transsexuals in Iran between 15,000 and 20,000 people, with unofficial estimates suggesting many more -- up to 150,000, the Guardian reports. In a country where same-sex relationships are punishable by execution, sex-changing surgeries may mean the difference between life and death. ...

    Gender theorist Afsaneh Najmabadi adds: “For legal and medical authorities, sex change surgeries are explicitly framed as the cure for a diseased abnormality, and on occasion they are proposed as a religioegally sanctioned option for heteronormalizing people with same-sex desires or practices.”


    Since children as young as five are being slapped with a label of "gender identity disorder", what do we know about these little gender non-conforming children? Most knowledgeable people know that gender identity is not the same thing as sexual orientation. So, the mother is partly correct, but it is far more complex than this. Scientists and researches have known for some time that many little sissy boys and tomboy girls do, indeed, grow up to be gay men and lesbians. That is, unless they are chemically and surgically castrated. Because it's so nightmarish and frightening, no one wants to face the ugly truth. In order to identify and the help the few "gender dysphoric" kids who actually do decide to transition upon reaching adulthood, a whole generation of future gay and lesbian children are being chemically and surgically castrated.

    According to my,

    "Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality."

    An article in the Atlantic states,

    The most extensive study on transgender boys was published in 1987 as The “Sissy Boy Syndrome” and the Development of Homosexuality. For 15 years, Dr. Richard Green followed 44 boys who exhibited extreme feminine behaviors, and a control group of boys who did not... Green expected most of the boys in the study to end up as transsexuals, but nothing like that happened. Three-fourths of the 44 boys turned out to be gay or bisexual (Green says a few more have since contacted him and told him they too were gay). Only one became a transsexual. “We can’t tell a pre-gay from a pre-transsexual at 8,” says Green, who recently retired from running the adult gender-identity clinic in England. “

    A science daily article says,

    "Research which follows these children to adulthood shows that between 50 to 80 per cent of gender nonconforming boys become gay, and about one third of such girls become lesbian"


    In order to identify and offer support to the few children who might really be GID, how many future gay men lesbians are we willing to "transition"?


    I'm sorry, but I simply do not understand five year old girls already being called "he" by her parents and being labeled transgender. There probably isn't anything this little tomboy hasn't done that I did when I was a kid. I played with toy trucks and blocks too, but I can't recall my parents ever calling me "he" at age five. Apparently, because this little girl didn't play with her sister's tinker bell doll, this means she is "transgender" and now a "he" instead of a "she". By calling a five year old little girl "he", doesn't this just re-enforce "gender identity disorder"? If people question this lunacy, they are branded "transphobic".
    Well, I'm not drinking the Kool Aid, and this is insanity. Moreover, by rigidly enforcing stereotypical "feminine" roles, isn't this utterly sexist on its face. If girls prefer building blocks over dolls (think future engineer), then they must be boys. I don't care what anyone says. The diagnosis of "gender identity disorder" in young children is so problematic and ripe for abuse that it makes me shudder. How can we distinguish between parental views of what is appropriate "feminine" behavior and actual "gender dysphoria" at such a young age? Compared to twenty or thirty years ago, kids are being slapped with a label of transgender and "gender identity disorder" at much earlier ages.

    "Essie was born a boy. Essie transitioned at the age of 6, but she has known since the age of 1 that she was a girl
    the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria""

    “Chris started last year as “Grace” and “she”. I had thoughts over the years that he may be transgender as he always dressed in boys clothes and “acted” like a boy. BUT I as most people figured he was just a “tomboy.” I really thought thought that he might be transgender when at around 7 years old. He said “Mom, I am supposed to be a boy would you care if I had sex change surgery when I was older?” Of course it stunned me but I calmy said “No, I wouldn’t care."

    Read the above paragraph. Seven year old kids can't possible comprehend sex change surgery. Where the heck does this come from?


    As long as Homo sapiens have walked upon the earth, adolescence has been a normal part of childhood development. Now, this has been turned on its head by trans activists and their allies. There are serious ethical issues raised by sterilizing children. Gender nonconforming little girls aren't allowed to develop breasts, and effeminate boys don't develop male characteristics. If cross gender hormones are given right after puberty suppressing drugs, there is an issue of future fertility being compromised. Whether they admit it or not, puberty suppressing drugs have an advantage in that normal development is delayed, thus making it easier to surgically "transition" later. That is, instead of surgically lopping off healthy breasts, prevent breasts from developing in the first place. Apparently, the latest trans talking point is "buying time". That is, suppressing normal adolescent development gives these gender nonconforming children time to decide what they want. How much time are we talking about? Is it six months, a year, five years, or ten years? (1.) This assumes that the time is the same for all children. (2.) It also assumes that these children are completely free from parental influence which we know can never be completely true all the time. (3.) The prefrontal cortex of the brain isn't fully developed until the early twenties. This is the judgment center of the brain. Do these children even understand what is happening to them? I seriously doubt it, but we are supposed to go along with the latest trans talking points otherwise we're branded transphobic. When my best friend's daughter went through puberty, she became a rebellious hellion. Perhaps we should be be giving puberty suppressing drugs to all teenagers.


    Trans activists toss the word "transition" around as if it has magical properties. The word "transition" hides the blood, surgeon's scalpel, multiple surgeries, and a life time of cross gender hormones. No wonder they prefer the word "transition" instead of the words surgery and chemical/surgical sterilization. The mutilation of female genitals in one manner or another has a very long history. The history of surgically scraping away female genitals and female identity has been brutal.

    As to "transitioning" in general doesn't it assume all the following:

    (1.) No woman will ever live to regret having painful multiple surgeries to surgically scrape away every inch of her female identity.
    (2.) Culture, family,or peer pressure play no role whatsoever in the "body modification" of females and their genitals.
    (3.) All humans are capable of making rational decisions, and are fully aware of all the risks associated with any decision.
    (4.) All surgeons come highly qualified and are equally skilled.

    Reviewing "transitioning":

    (1.) In FTM "transitioning", a surgeon takes a scalpel and removes both health breasts. It's not a simple procedure to turn female breasts into a male chest, and it comes with pain and scarring. This is major surgery, and occasionally people die in surgery. Why do females even have breasts? Why not simply surgically lop off the breasts of all females? Human females like all primates have breasts. Breasts can be erotic, and they are the best food for babies. Contrary to what some think, they do serve a purpose.

    (2.) In order to maintain a masculine appearance, testosterone has to be taken for life. If a transman still has his ovaries and uterus there is an issue of long term testosterone use and PCOS. Besides PCOS, elevated liver levels, lipid levels, and other health problems might occur.

    (3.) Because of PCOS, some physicians recommend removal of ovaries and uterus within five year of starting testosterone. Hysterectomies are major surgery, and not all insurance will cover this for "gender dysphoria".

    (4.) I saved phalloplasty for last because it requires multiple surgeries to the female genitals, skin grafts, and is painful by any standards.

    "It is important to note that most phalloplasty procedures require multiple surgical visits as well as some revisions. The procedures can involve pain and discomfort, require significant recovery time, and often leave large areas of visible scarring. Because of the nature of using skin grafts, there is always a risk of tissue death and loss of part or all of the penis. Other potential complications include the extrusion of testicular or penile implants, the formation of a stricture (an abnormal narrowing; blockage) or fistula (an abnormal connection; leakage) in the newly constructed urethral passage, and infection. There may also be damage to the nerves of the donor area, resulting in numbness or loss of function. Erotic sensation may be changed or diminished. And the results may not be as aesthetically pleasing as one might like them to be. Also, one must consider the usual risks of any surgery, including bleeding, infection, problems from anesthesia, blood clots, or death (rare).
    Phalloplasty procedures also tend to be very expensive (between $50,000 to $150,000) and are often not covered by insurance.”

  10. Risks/complications of metaidoioplasty and phalloplasty

    Possible complications specific to metaidoioplasty without urethral lengthening include:

    • dissatisfaction with the length of the penis (shorter than expected)

    • change in sensation: loss of sensation, persistent tenderness, or hypersensitivity

    • temporary or permanent narrowing of the vaginal opening, making penetration difficult

    • change in urine spray, resulting in splashing of the labia and vaginalskin

    Possible complications specific to urethral lengthening include:

    * urethral fistula: opening between the urethra and the skin, leading
    to leakage of urine (very common: occurs in around 45% of

    * partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new urethra

    * narrowing or closure of the new urethra

    *hair growth in the urethra (from hair-bearing tissue used as urethral lining)

    Phalloplasty includes all the possible complications of urethral lengthening as well as possible:

    * partial or total death of the tissue used to create the new penis

    * numbness or hypersensitivity of the skin of the penis

    * decreased sexual sensation, possibly with decreased ability to have orgasm

    * compromised sensation and/or function of the hand and wrist of the donor arm (approximately 5% of patients need a long period of physiotherapy to recover fully)

    * dissatisfaction with the size or shape of the penis

    * excessive scarring in the donor sites (arm/thigh)

  11. To the above anonymous, don't you think you're being deliberately obtuse? I'm a transgender man(biologically female) who believes we should go back to the historical style of not using hormones or surgery. Just accept transgender men as men and transgender women as women, keeping our bodies intact.

    Tomboys don't beg their parents to view them as boys, transgender boys do. Parents refusing to call them boys causes them anxiety, so they're trying to be kind. That's what you're being deliberately obtuse about. You'd rather the kid be miserable because their parents are being cruel. That's emotional abuse.

  12. The abuse is furthering their non=-nderstanding of how misogyny and the GSJ informs their notions about the world and themselves. Parents of delusional patients (say someone who thinks he or she is Jesus) doesnt suddenly begin calling their child Jesus, they and the medical community try to help the patient understand their delusion.


  13. Yes, some are "transitioning" who probably shouldn't, but it's only female bodies we are carving up. Now, go back to sleep, or let's talk about nice, pleasant things.

    "I also feel that young people are transitioning who may not need to. But I don't mourn their loss of anything, because I can't quantify what that loss *is* without projecting my own experience onto them."

    So, his individual does admit, "I also feel that young people are transitioning who may not need to." Then he or she goes on to say, "But I don't mourn their loss of anything, because I can't quantify what that loss *is* without projecting my own experience onto them." My doesn't this sound so intellectual! It's confusing, but lofty sounding. Apparently, if female genitals get carved up and surgically scraped away in "transitioning", it's of no significance. Indeed, there is no need to mourn for the loss of anything. As I stated earlier, the mutilation of female bodies is nothing new. There is nothing new about misogyny.

    Contrary to what this individual states, we can quantify female genital mutilation. The WHO estimates that 100–140 million women and girls around the world have experienced the procedure, including 92 million in Africa. We can also quantify the horrific practice of breast ironing. There is a historical record of almost every form of mutilation of female bodies.

  14. "Tomboys don't beg their parents to view them as boys, transgender boys do. Parents refusing to call them boys causes them anxiety, so they're trying to be kind. That's what you're being deliberately obtuse about. You'd rather the kid be miserable because their parents are being cruel. That's emotional abuse."

    First of all, I understand the emotional abuse. When seven year old children ask about sex change surgery, I often wonder where this comes from. I don't care what anyone says, there are profound ethical issues surrounding puberty suppressing drugs, and the sterilization of gender non-conforming children. Not calling a five year old girl "he" is tantamount to emotional abuse, but the sterilization of children through puberty suppressing drugs is nothing to worry about. Yes, I think I understand.

    If five year old girls are already being called "he" as in the Washington Post video doesn't this just re-enforce "gender identity disorder"? So, if people call a five year old girl "he" long enough perhaps she will really believe she is "he". What happens if she later decides she is really a she? My parents think of me as "he", so maybe that is who I am. Again, this is being done to five year old "transgender" girls. Did this five year old girl in the Washington Post video really beg her parents to be called "he"? So, am I to believe that this five year old girl started begging her parents to call her "he". Heck, at that age I recall wanting to be every super hero I saw on t.v. Five year old kids have remarkable and vivid imaginations. Some five year old kids even imagine that they are a family pet. I know I did at this age, and I even hung onto the family dog as if it were my mommy. So, let's call the five year old kid Spot or Fluffy. Our family dog was named Boots, and I thought Boots was like my parent. Little kids have great imaginations. As for girl children, I happen to think female children should be told that it is a positive thing to be called a girl or woman, but what the heck do I know. I don't care what anyone says the diagnosis of "gender identity" in young children is ripe for abuse. Calling five year old girls "he" confuses me. I'm sorry, but it does smack of a peculiar form of child abuse. When I watch the video of the five year old "transgender" girl, I can say with all certainty that there probably isn't anything that this girl does that I haven't done at that age. At that age, I recall playing with building blocks. At that age, I crawled on bunk beds, and at that age I played with toy trucks. My parents just called me a tomboy. My parents never called me "he", nor did they drag me to a therapist. So, here is my question. Was I a tomboy, or was I transgender? It does appear to me that both "tomboy" and "transgender" are culturally prescribed terms.

    Apparently, because she didn't play with her sister's dolls, this means the five year old girl is "he". Isn't this attitude sexist on its face in that it re-enforces stereotypical views of femininity?

    How is it possible to completely separate culture from "gender identity disorder", or gender? I don't see how it is possible.
    How is it possible to separate parental views, attitudes, and influences from what goes on in the minds of such small children?

    Again, I do see emotional abuse, and who is to say that it isn't coming from the parents who eagerly jump on the trans bandwagon as a way to calm their fears at having a little tomboy (think dyke lesbian) or sissy boy (think swishy, limp wristed fag).

  15. I find Cole Jacob Davis' comments interesting, in that Cole is suggesting transgenderism without hormones or surgery. At least that would be medically safer.

    I wonder on what basis Cole identifies as male rather than female. What really are the differences, other than genitalia or physical secondary sex characteristics?

    Personally, I think that if society got rid of sex role stereotypes and outmoded ideas about what a woman should be like and what a man should be like, then people could just be who they are.

  16. "Personally, I think that if society got rid of sex role stereotypes and outmoded ideas about what a woman should be like and what a man should be like, then people could just be who they are."

    Actually, I am being who I am. In fact, there is no way to NOT be who you are.

  17. I know the eighth guy in this post; he's never been happier, believe me. Our college have asked if I'll comment on their equality, and I have to say they don't tolerate the prejudice that sometimes appears.

    In regards to learning about sex reassignment surgery, I found out about it when I was ten years old from a friend of the same age. At that point I was truly miserable, and I remember saying to those friends that I believed I may need to do so.

    Considering that countless psychologists have tried and failed to comprehensively answer how gender development evolves in each individual, how do you expect to do so Dirt?