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Tuesday, July 10, 2012

The Bible and the Transgendered

This is the severe level of desperateness the trans mind will fall in order to legitimize their delusory mental state:
We didnt even have the medical advancement of aspirin until the mid 1800's and this trans female actually is seeking proof of transgender condemnation in biblical times??? This also is what passes for "trans academics", some of which is scarily finding its way into the general pop of academia and the impressionable minds of todays youth. So rather than academia working to dismantle the misogynistic structures that create the trans mind, it is instead treasure hunting for its legitimacy!

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  1. There are actually quite a few versus in many different bibles that social conservatives say condemn transgender identities. This verse from the old testament is most used:


    Deuteronomy 22:5:
    "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."

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  2. Sexing clothing has ZERO to do with transition and EVERYTHING to do with the GSJ.

    Unless you have a quote specifically dealing with the Male Medical Machine hacking off healthy body parts for the purpose of "passing" coupled with the male medical machine doling out synthetic hormones, "trans" didnt exist until the 20th century when doctors created the notion.

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  3. As a feminist I should also add, hereto-patriarchal rules/laws such this were created to keep women vulnerable to rape, NOT to stop women from "transitioning"!

    dirt

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  4. Sorry for the confusion. I did not say that those verses were actually about transgender identities. However, the person who posted the original question that you blogged asked if any passages had been INTERPRETED (the operative word here) as condemning transgender identities. Although you may not interpret these passages as condemning transgender identities and I don't either, there are many social conservatives who do interpret them that way.

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  5. It wouldn't surprise me if they're trans phrases in the bible.
    Who cares anyway? The bible is an old overrated book filled with hate.

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  6. Well, first off, the Right-Wing Christians use that passage in Deuteronomy.

    Right-Wing Christians often pick out the passages which state that people were created 'male and female.'

    Right-Wing Christians also use the same passages they use against gays and lesbians. Apparently they can't tell the difference between sexual orientation, the gender straightjacket and gender identity.

    Right-Wing Christians sometimes use the anti-eunuch passages in Deuteronomy, but that runs against Isaiah, Matthew 19:12, and Acts.

    - Mary

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  7. @Dirt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus#Sex.2Fgender_controversy

    Not specifically Biblical, but still quite early.

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  8. well, LGB being grouped with T feeds right into the right-wing anti-gay reasoning

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  9. The same MMM gave us penicilin, the polio vacine and the knowledge that disease is not caused by imps, demon or hex's.

    Yes the medical field has gotten allot wrong, but they have gotten alot right also.

    It seems to me that we expect nothing less than absolute and god like abilities in our physicians. They are human just like the rest of us and often get it wrong. But at least they are capable of admiting wrong and fault on occasion. A trait that I do not see in many who would condemn them for not thinking the way we believe they should.

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  10. Anon@4:38, I expect basic common sense which the psychiatric community has shown little of since its inception.

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  11. Seems to me the original message was taken from someone looking for trans-condemnation in the Bible, not justification. Probably having to do with his work. The Bible is an instrument of a cult. Who cares what it says?

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  12. Apparently trans academics care.

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  13. Dirt!
    I am simply gobsmacked that you of all people could have missed the elephant in the room with that snippet you posted... and that would be... drum roll please! "Doctoral Candidate!" One of the primary things fueling the trans-epidemic nonsense is that in academics these days, "trans" has become the sure fired fast path to an easy doctorate and the tenure track! I'd go so far as to say that it's the academic equivalent of printing money in you living room with crayons and having people accept it as real! Gimme another fist full of those pink and blue twenties Sally! I feel the need for a day at the spa!

    When in fact, there has been damn little real hard biting research into "trans" in decades! What passes for most of the current "research" are all these academics parsing each others insipid work, which bottom line was just rewording of other studys that were more than dubious to begin with... Studies that were done to prove a pet theories, by researchers who are more interested in THEIR theory than any ol facts, or they really were done earnestly but with such a small sample as to utterly useless... topped off with a big o; heaping spoon full of crap-O-la and then citing by everyone down the line from then on as factual resources! Why it has to be real cause it was published! So What? You can get anything published these days including your grocery list if you know how to use the academic nonsensical jargon so that no one who reads it has a clue what it is you are talking about... Oh my there are lots men here saying lots of big words... why they certainly must know what it is they are talking about!

    Worst of all.... Seems they, like the TG all always start with that tiny tiny tiny group of dysphorics who really cannot be "cured" other than by surgery, That pitiful group who in my humble opinion should be treated palliativlly simply as a humanitarian gesture... But no, they always start there cause they look the part, and then they tack on at face value what the hordes upon hordes of wanna be's say, who... imagine this, know how to read, own computers and use the internet, and who also know exactly what to say to those very gullible and self absorbed twits who are in the process of adding to the scope of human knowledge!

    Barf!
    MKIA

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  14. Love your comment MKIA, but want to add, there hasnt been one case of dysphoria thats been proven "cured" by any sense of "transition".

    Dysphoria cant be covered up or cut out, it MUST be worked through. And as a Butch who would easily have fallen into your category MKIA of those whom you believe NEED transitioning, I say that with the utmost authority and experience.

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  15. Dirt do you really have proof of that NO person has got their dysphoria cured by the treatment. Because there are people who have completely lost their dysphoria for it to never return. Stop coming up with fake facts. People might start taking you seriously if you do.

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  16. There was a reason for the quotes round "cure" That being the medical "cure" is and always has been palliative! Those few, and again I emphasize "few" as in small number, statistically insignificant, rare as hens teeth, who have a dysphoria so profound that the only way they are going to work it out, without transition is in front of a speeding truck or the barrel of a gun... (unlike the trans, who scream this constantly, they will do it quietly and alone) Allowing them to transition is an act of human kindness... Funny thing about it though... of their numbers, few that there are and fewer still that I have met in my many many years upon this planet, they are all quite honest about the biology. They more than anyone are acutely aware the treatment was palliative, that their sex was not "changed." Rather a truce was made with their sex so they could in fact go on to live rather normal lives... and when it comes to those few, they do just that... They transition and then go live normal lives...

    That is in marked contrast to the hordes of "trans" who, starting with the men of course, appropriated the narratives of those pitiful few as a means to an end. Stories which have been repeated so often they've actually started to believe their own nonsense! Stories reshaped from the quiet desperation at not being normal to create a sense of "specialness" and as a means of saying "Look at me!" not of a quiet agony... WTF?

    Don't get me wrong! "Trans" is a monster! It has and is increasingly consuming some of the most vulnerable in our society. Those for whom the gender straight jacket (I do so love that term!) does not and never will fit! They are being lead by lies and delusion down a primrose path to a future that will insure they stay marginalized and alone on the edges of society forever.

    These young women who are taking to trans in droves for example... they have no clue what they are doing to themselves! Testosterone? Breast removal? Just so you can drive a pick up and wear clothes that do not fall apart in the first washing? Honey I do both and I'm not trans! Accepting male pattern baldness so you can be addressed as a peer and not a lesser creature by men? What a thing to trade for something of such little value! Have they not looked at women post menopausal? That hair loss is not reversible! Once it is gone it is gone forever!

    This is all just so messed up and I am glad you are out there fighting the good fight! We need more like you!

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  17. Once again Miz Know-It-All hits the nail on the head! Good job!

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  18. @Miz-Know-It-All: Every single legitimate piece of medical literature I've read about trans doesn't refer to surgery and/or hormones as a "cure". It's a "treatment", and treatment doesn't always result in a cure, but it can lessen symptoms and ease discomfort. I don't agree with the mindset of trans being curable either, but doesn't mean that I disagree with treatment being made available for it at all. After all, you wouldn't deny treatment to someone for any condition even if they had an almost zero percent chance of being cured of it.

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  19. Working through your dysphoria requires NO hormones and NO medical disfigurement and achieves greater and long lasting results!

    dirt

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  20. @Dirt -- Where is the proof?

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  21. There is very little research into whether surgery and hormones decreases the level of suicide and unhappiness in those who transition. The small amount of reseach there is, actually demonstrates that after an initial improvement in mental health, the level of suicides returns to the same level as those committing suicide pre transition.

    Scientifically, the existing research is too small scale or out-of-date to provide firm evidence that transitioning does not improve mental health. But it certainly seems to be pointing that way.

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