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Thursday, June 14, 2012

Childhood Sexual Abuse, Rape and Transmale Behavior (a Speculation)

Since facts are so difficult to come by with regards to anything trans related, lets speculate a bit on the known facts. I have be notified/written about close to a dozen cases of trans bio-females who have either raped another woman, deceived under age girls into (statutory rape) sex and one that demanded her female partner act out her sexual abuse as a child with the trans bio-female playing the adult male molester. In each and every case it came to light that these trans bio-females were either molested as children by an adult male or raped by an adult male at some point before transition.

My questions to you are: Do you feel in these cases or those like them, that the feelings of female shame and female inferiority (both real and imagined) helped to produce the trans disorder? And do you feel once under the dangerous influence of testosterone, coupled with societal notions of rape as something (real) men do to females, that in a warped sense these trans bio-females were/are trying to over come what was done to them by depicting their superiority by doing the same thing to another female?

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  1. Interesting, Indeed..... although isn't it true that most molesters have a history of being molested themselves, regardless of their sexual or gender identities?

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  2. No. Statistically males rape/molest females across all races/religions. And statistically female victims do not grow up to perpetrate rape/molestation. Males victims of male rape/molestation however have a high percentage that will grow up to be rapists/child molesters.

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  3. We know the misogyny of transness is inherent. Also the idea of victim becoming victimiser is untrue. No excuses. I dont give a fuck what happened to you - you cross that line of cruelty you deserve to fucking pay. Bio female to trans choosing to do this shit deserve the same punishment as the men they choose to worship and strive to become by any means; they also deserve to be locked up with their gods. It amazes me how apologia for male (trans) violence and male reversals will take any form it can (evolution! racial oppression! transphobia and cisexism!) so women and girl-children are left with a shredded psyche being told their torturer is the real victim and they should feel guilty for their own violations. Unless you possess the mind of someone mentally challenged or the intellect of a house-pet you know what you are doing when someone cries, begs and pleads with terror and pain. Sometimes I have empathy for all females regardless of their crimes but I fight against this as I know it might be our socialization. These rapey trans now mixing with the worst straight men claiming queerness and mixing misogyny, BDSM and all the gaslighting mind-fuckery is going to leave countless female victims in the years to come. I doubt they will but I for one hope they get the karma hardcore.

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  4. I agree anon 3:10. Im ex-trans and I saw the way misogyny and casual violence were condoned in the trans community. You got poeple who think they are owed sexual access to others or else 'transphobia', people who think violence is a measured response to 'transphobia', misogynists, and like any group of people, some who have been sexually abused.

    I have strong views on personal responsibility. I was exposed to violence as a child so I'm at higher risk of becoming an abuser. I choose not to be. everybody who knows that as a victim they have a higher risk of being an abuser, has the power to STOP the cycle. Keep speculating, knowledge is power.

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  5. Anon 3:10,

    I pity the amount of hate that you hoard in your being. I've seen your vitriol before. That post made you appear to be foaming at the mouth. It is you who I wouldn't trust children around. You seem like a very unstable person and I advise you to seek treatment.

    I'll pray for you...

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  6. I Don't know, You have talked about for so long how all the experiences of transmen can be observed in female's and that these experiences don't make you trans.
    And that transmen are just females full stop.
    But then you go on to say:
    "No. Statistically males rape/molest females across all races/religions. And statistically female victims do not grow up to perpetrate rape/molestation."
    So if the experiences and feelings of transmen are identical to females, Then shouldn't a self identified female and a transman with the same feelings and experiences be both as likely to rape?

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  7. I imagine the numbers are similar but teatosterone surely adds to aggressive behavior

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  8. Even if you add testosterone as a factor, can you prove that transmen are more likely to rape?
    we really need statistics for this, and the statistics also have to account for other factors like, are women more likely to report rape from a transman over rape from a lesbian?


    Then you have to work out how much of this is a direct result of testosterone.
    Then you might have a case against testosterone, But if transmen are more likely to rape regardless, you are only reinforcing the Idea that transmen are more masculine than other women.

    I understand that this is speculation, but its speculation for a very sensitive topic that can demonize an entire community.
    (but that's probably the point of this post)


    So is dirt's argument against the mental state of transmen, or is it against the use of testosterone?

    If its against both, then you have to prove that a women with the same experiences of abuse that identifies as female would be more likely to rape if on testosterone.
    If she is, then Dirt's argument is with testosterone, if she isnt, Dirt's argument is with transmen, but again, you would be reinforcing the idea that they are naturally more masculinized.
    I'm afraid in this case, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

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  9. more 'masculine' than other women or simply more deranged? i agree it's a dicey theory though, but if Raping is simply a sign of masculinity i'd imagine these 'transmen' would be keen on raping since being like a real man is their highest goal

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  10. "more 'masculine' than other women or simply more deranged?"
    I mean, as in they have a more masculinized brain or a brain that functions in a more masculine way.
    I would be careful in trying to make an argument that trans people are just more "deranged" as arguments have already been made that transmen have the exact same feelings and experiences as women and that they are only interpreting their feelings as "being male" and even then it has been argued "how can one FEEL male?"
    This argument of "more 'masculine' than other women or simply more deranged?" Is actually leaving wiggle room for a definitive difference between transmen and women.
    You could interpret this difference as trans people being "deranged" but other explanations could be squeezed in there also.
    "but if Raping is simply a sign of masculinity i'd imagine these 'transmen' would be keen on raping since being like a real man is their highest goal"
    I don't believe it is, raping is done by both males and females albeit, more often males, But once again, that is quite a speculation and I'm not sure why you would make such a statement without evidence other than to demonize the trans community.

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  11. @22, obviously there is a clear difference between biology and behavior on drugs. Hence the reason so many many trans bio-females once on testosterone for a while change sexual attraction/behavior.

    dirt

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  12. So your argument is with the use of testosterone then?

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  13. 22, dont waste my time with ignorance.

    dirt

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  14. Dirt, I've been waiting for more on this topic for a while and I'm glad you're getting to it. I often scroll through your categories and read the sexual abuse ones. I've been doing my own research on rape, and transmen raping women, and I'd love it if you did more on this subject. I feel like it's something that has severely been overlooked within the trans community. It often seems like those who were victims (or as I'd prefer to call it "survivors") have a higher rate of being a sexual predator, correct? I believe (and I might be mistaken here) in the past you had a theory that many people transition because they were psychologically damaged by sexual abuse as children. If this is the case, I find it very frightening that not only is sexual abuse a leading cause for transtrending but its also making these transtrenders into rapists.

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  15. I know of at least two cases where this has happened, female to male have sexually assaulted other women. I also wonder about male to female who either go 'stealth' and chase after Lesbians, and still retain their penises despite their outward feminized appearance, and how those Lesbians must feel once they realize they DO have a penis...that to me that is a form of rape, and decieving. I trust MTF's even less.

    As far as more than speculation, I know of at least one person I dated who had a terrible history of ritual sexual abuse as a child who transitioned to male, I think personally to get out of that victim situation. She also often passed as male with an extremely Butch appearance, but not so hard inside..very much female inside....I never knew her to abuse anybody though, but she had maximal sexual abuse as a child. I don't think we can separate the damage patriarchy with both homophobia/lesbophobia, sexism, sexual and physical violence against women and out and out discrimination onto female bodies, minds and spirits what that does to young girls and to women, and especially even more so to Butch Lesbians who have experienced all these things, in their desire to escape the female condition and 'become male', at least outwardly, as camoflage and for safety.

    The ones who disturb me the most, are those that take on the prickiest aspects so they completely erase and destroy any vestiges of 'the female inside' due to their self hate, which most assuredly comes out of their abuse and the general abuse against women on all levels just living in patriarchal society...like a smog everyday we have to endure....

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  16. I doubt most Trans Trenders were sexually abused, but given the high rate of sexually abused females, certainly a portion of them would be. And out of those, surely that abuse would be the prime factor.

    But the foundation for ALL transition is misogyny.

    Homophobia was clearly the driving force behind the male medical machine in creating the idea of transition and that remains so today, in both the medical and societal. Which is why children are so readily beginning "transition" at ages as young as 2 and 3. In a homophobic society, who the fuck wants a gay son or a lesbian daughter?

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  17. @ MA, I've never once heard of a lesbian being fooled by a trans bio-male. Would be quite difficult. And clearly, you do not need a hard cock to rape, so it makes no difference whether or not these men would have had their dicks pretzelfied.

    dirt

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  18. My questions to you are: Do you feel in these cases or those like them, that the feelings of female shame and female inferiority (both real and imagined) helped to
    produce the trans disorder?

    I can say with absolute certainty that childhood sexual abuse does, indeed, profoundly impact all females in that it makes females ashamed of their bodies. When I was about fourteen years of age, I recall my grandfather touching my breasts when I was sitting close to him in the back seat of a car. I wasn’t raped, but he stroked my breasts, and to this very day I can still remember how horrible and sick inside I felt. My breasts were just beginning to develop. After this, I couldn’t stand the thought of having breasts. I recall one brief childhood experience of actually punching my own breasts with my fist because I associated them with shame. I was actually repulsed by them. It took me years before I finally came to completely love and cherish my body. Now, I love my breasts and enjoy being touched on my breasts. I was a bit of a tomboy when I was growing up, and I recall playing baseball with my brother. I never actually wanted to be a boy. I just knew they had all the fun and all the freedom to do exactly what they wanted.

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  19. I lived with some years among a group of people who cluster around a rather well known transman author whom I won't name here for both legal reasons and fear for my own safety. The things I saw and the things I could tell you, if I dared, are some of the most disgusting, sadistic, abusive things I've ever seen up close and personal - and then the second had stories of other goings on in the group that I wasn't there for, but don't have any reason to doubt, are all just as bad. I don't know of any way to get law enforcement to look in on them - I know they had at least once and came up empty handed. If they did come up with anything of course they would all cry and whine about "persecution". No one with half a brain who loves their children should let them anywhere near any group of "out and proud" transitioners.

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  20. "I have be notified/written about close to a dozen cases of trans bio-females who have either raped another woman, deceived under age girls into (statutory rape) sex and one that demanded her female partner act out her sexual abuse as a child with the trans bio-female playing the adult male molester."


    It's no secret that most women do experience childhood sexual abuse in one form or another. It makes perfect sense that many of these women have great difficulty loving their bodies. So, I am not surprised that this happens. Instead of coming to terms with the childhood abuse, they relive it.

    I think part of the problem is the glorification of porn/BDSM that came along with the trans and gender queer trend in the 1990s.

    At the large Philadelphia Trans Health Conferenced there were two workshops for trans in the sex industry. There was even a workshop for FTM who were either in the sex industry, or were interested in the sex industry.

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  21. When I was in high school a really close friend of mine asked me for help once. Upon questioning what with she informed me that she thought she might be trans. I simply asked her "Why". After a lengthy discussion I discovered that the ex-boyfriend who had raped and impregnated her when she was 12 was harassing her and had recently attempted rape again, though she managed to get away this time to luck. She ended her explanation saying "I'm not really sure what I want to do. I'm just tired of being weak."

    For a while I didn't know what to say to this. Then she asked me if I knew of any gender therapists that could help her and I knew I had to do something. What did I do? I gave her some simple advice. "You've been saying for a few months your hair needs a trim, why not go get it done? Then go home, curl up with Angel and have some hot cocoa. When you're ready I can take you to the Club with me and we'll see what Chad can do."

    A little info here. She is one of those people that instantly feels better if someone is playing with her hair and I ended up giving her some cash to go get her hair trimmed. She ended up getting a really short (and adorable) bob haircut.

    The club is the judo club I was part of at the time. Chad was my sensei.

    Basically my solution was 'get your hair cut, have some cocoa with your girlfriend, and when you're ready I'll help you get some martial arts training.'



    She's doing great now, in college and ended up filing charges against the guy who is in jail.

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