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Tuesday, February 7, 2012

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Listen to any ftM video and what is most apparent in EVERY intro vid is the insane extent to which each and every one has pathologically bought into the Gender Straight Jacket without question.

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  1. Wait..... what's the problem?

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  2. growing hoardes of young women who don't match society's expectations of the feminine standard are now automatically thinking that they are actually male and becoming a very bizarre conformist subculture while doing the limited views regarding gender of the world at large a favor by falling into line and confirming the stereotypical egotistical male bigot's belief of 'see they just want to be men' by becoming a new stereotype and proclaiming they're breaking boundaries and bring 'free' while really locking themselves in gender prison

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  3. I have been saying I was a boy since I was old enough to say the WORD boy. I have NEVER felt like a female in my entire life and this was before I even had a "social construct of male and female roles". So I'm curious as to how I'm "thinking I needed to become a man because of social constructs" when I've been like this since an age when everything in my life was unisex.

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  4. there is no such thing as feeling male or female
    children's ideas of gender are often very black and white
    it's a shame to see people carrying this simplified view into adulthood without question

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  5. the only thing that makes one feel male or female (aside from feeling one's male or female body) is how one is treated vs. how one wishes to be treated by others

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  6. I "carry this view" because it's true. Don't tell me it isn't because I have documentation that it is. Home videos where I wouldn't respond to people if they didn't refer to me as he - things I wrote as early as preschool about things like what I did over the summer which used male pronouns to describe myself - refusing to take my pants off to change them a lot as a child because my genitals would make me cry - refusing to talk to people who wouldn't call me the male version of my name - videos of me laughing at people as a child for thinking I was a girl - a crap load more thing lying around of other things i did as a child involving this. So no, you're wrong. It DID happen as a child and there's things all over my house to prove this. For you to tell me otherwise when I'M the one who would know is incredibly close minded.
    I was asking for you opinion on why you think that was, not for you to tell me I'm wrong about what I have proof over. It was a conversation starter, not an invitation for you to be rude.

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  7. "and this was before I even had a "social construct of male and female roles"."

    Given that parents start treating male and female babies differently from birth, difficult to see how you escaped these social effects -- unless you were raised by robots in a bubble.

    The experiments are there in the literature -- check out the ones that show the DIFFERENT ways people react to the same baby, depending on whether they are dressed in blue or pink.

    From the moment you pop out, the socialisation starts.

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  8. Thank you, BadDyke. This was the type of answer I was hoping to receive. A polite viewpoint.

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  9. "It DID happen as a child " Cos the process starts early.

    Doesn't mean your male, it's just a gender thing that MANY of us went through. It's NOT UNUSUAL to be gender-non-conforming as a child, doesn't mean you're male................

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  10. Okay. For debate purposes (and please don't be rude, I would just like to see your view point), even if I am a female and that all the science in the world points to this, if in my mind I feel as though I am (cliche but hereitgoes) "in the wrong body" so to speak, what do you see is so wrong in letting me just go by pronouns that make me more comfortable and changing my body to make me more comfortable, even if anyone else doesn't like how it looks. Even if I am female, what harm do you see it as just to let me be comfortable? I'm aware that everyone on this blog sees being transgender as a mental problem, which I won't argue, but if every mental help I've received throughout my life to help me see myself as the female science says I am isn't working, why not just let me alter my body so I can live the rest of my life in comfort. If one is miserable their whole life, what is the point in living it. I'm not going to live just so other people can be happy, any more than a lesbian would stay "in the closet" just to appease the heterosexuals in the world.

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  11. i don't think anybody who posts here is trying to prohibit anybody from doing anything to their bodies but when a woman (even with a beard etc) insists on everybody playing along with her notion of being a man it ceases to be a personal issue. is that also too rude?

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  12. No it's not. Then what about pronouns? Even if you don't agree, it's polite. Not just towards me, but towards anyone. In my later years, I haven't cared as much about what pronouns people use, even though female ones feel wrong, but some people do and it hurts their mentality even more when you use ones that don't like. If you feel someone is already mentally ill, why further their physical pain, even if you don't agree with it necessarily. I'm not saying you have to call them men behind their backs or even see them as men, but if you think society has already hurt us to the point of us being mentally ill, why further the mental damage of the ones who take that stuff to heart?

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  13. Or a further point (sorry to post another comment before having given you time to reply to the other, I'm just forgetful and don't want to forget my question): what are your views on ftms who are stealth and abstain from sex? Then it's not really ceasing to be a personal problem because the only one who really would know about their chromosome or genitals is themselves and their doctors. They wouldn't be corrupting children with the thought transsexualism, nor would they be sexually active, thus not making anyone pretend their genitals are different than they are.

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  14. "what do you see is so wrong in letting me just go by pronouns that make me more comfortable and changing my body to make me more comfortable, even if anyone else doesn't like how it looks."

    Because you are at best IGNORING the discomfort being caused to the user of the pronouns by calling 'he' someone that they see as a woman, and who is biologically female. O sorry, it's wrong to find that uncomfortable, that's transphobia...........

    So, the fact that you are FEMALE matters to me as a female, even if you want to be addressed as 'he'. Why should I, for your comfort, agree to your gender-based usage of pronouns, when to do so causes me discomfort and disagrees with my sex-based usage of pronouns?

    As regards bodies, it isn't about how it looks, that's somewhat trivial, to be totally frank! It's about the ideas behind it, that by so doing and by using male pronouns, YOU want to be treated as a man (which presupposes that men and women SHOULD be treated differently!).

    It's not just about nasty feminists being rude purposely to upset you -- let's face it, in many social situations women will probably do what they usually do, and call you 'he' if you insist to not cause trouble. But that DOESN'T mean they consider you a man.

    It isn't about you, it's about the gender ideas behind the trans ideology.

    "what are your views on ftms who are stealth and abstain from sex? " Sorry, its the IDEOLOGY that's the problem, saying -- yeah, but can I still have the surgery if I PROMISE never to talk about it, reveal it, do any recruiting. -- is missing the point! It's the ideas that lead you to want to do it AT ALL that matter.

    "If you feel someone is already mentally ill" No, that ISN'T what I saying -- being deluded, buying into the whole trans ideology, the whole gender crap, ISN'T saying people are mentally ill.

    So, it's NOT because you're mentally ill, or ugly, or stupid, or because we just want to be RUDE, it isn't about YOU -- it's about the ideas that have taken you to where you are, and that have led to you having the beliefs about sex and gender that you do.

    "to let me be comfortable" I want a bloody lot MORE than that, and one thing that I want is a society where women don't get their heads so screwed up by the whole twisted gender system that they reject their sex and their healthy bodies, and think they WANT mutilating surgery on the grounds of 'comfort'..........

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  15. Alright. Well I have to go to work. I enjoyed the conversation we've had today and thank you for expressing your views. I appreciate both that and yourself. I hope you have a lovely day.

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  16. So wait. What if a female changed her gender for the purpose of joining the army? So she won't get rape. What's your views on that? Just curious.

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  17. Being stealth and unaltered is a real option.
    I have had a few friends who have lived as such.
    I have also known a true intersexed person who did on rare occasions have sexual relations.
    All of this is acceptable to me as you figure out your way in this world.
    However, I will never accept the removal of healthy tissue and organs of a ftm. Never. It is unethical and antithetical to nature and her wonderous ways.
    I care about you young women, I want you to feel loved and really, this is not your fault. You are victims, and I want you to become whole again and love yourselves.

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  18. You seem to be interested in people being happy to be female. Myself, I am physically female, and I have no desire to change that (although the 'time of the month' does annoy the hell out of me). However, I confess that I don't feel the need to identify as any particular gender. If someone mistakes me for a male and calls me a 'he', I'll go with it; if they call me a 'she', I'll go with it too. I don't feel any attachment to either pronoun - I'm me, I'm happy, and that's good enough.

    Where does that fall in the grand scheme of this blog? I realize this is a femalecentric space - it's been stated before - but, once again, I'm curious.

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  19. My two pence on the trans being 'mentally ill' thing: I suspect most aren't but I will hear something occasionally that screams OCD.

    I'm not saying that having OCD makes social influences irrelevant. Outside influences do shape the direction of the OCD behaviour, but freeing yourself from the obsessions and delusions will be harder. It's especially unhelpful to try and reframe the delusions as 'true' or 'normal' by getting other people feed into them.

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  20. " The personal is political"

    This seems to have been lost in the trans politics of individualism. Ditto any questioning, in that everyones 'personal truth' seems to be classed as equally valid, and should be respected and they should be able to act based on that.

    The thing that really sticks in my craw is when we're not allowed to DISAGREE with someones elses 'personal truth' -- they think they're a man, or want to be treated like a man, hence want us to say 'he', even when they aren't a man according to MY definition of man. Suddenly my personal truth has to be rejected on the grounds of being NICE to everyone and not upsetting them.

    And all on the grounds of COMFORT. Sorry, but is this REALLY as radical as it gets? We have REAL women being murdered and dying in childbirth, and undergoing FGM, all on the grounds of their physical sex, NOT based on gender, and we're not allowed to talk about that, cos it reminds M2T that they're not quite the same as biological women and never will be, cos it makes them uncomfortable to be reminded of that. Hence the libra tampon ad that took a humerous look at a drag queen (NOT a M2T BTW) and the reminder that he is still biologically male hence doesn't need tampons -- and that got PULLED cos the trans crowd decided it was offensive.

    Thou shalt not UPSET anyone, but upsetting feminsts and biological women doesn't COUNT so it seems, and upsetting a biological man, even one that thinks he is a woman, is much more important.................

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  21. "So wait. What if a female changed her gender for the purpose of joining the army? So she won't get rape. What's your views on that? Just curious."

    Are you implying that men rape women?
    That seems to be against the beliefs of Transism.

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  22. "Transism" just means they don't identify with the sex they were born. Plain and simple. There's no belief about men being holy saints. No trans person implies that

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  23. So we could go ahead and call biological females "he" because it makes us uncomfortable that some seem to dress and act like men but claim they are women? If you call yourselves lesbian, but we think it's a mental illness to be "gay" then we are free to call you straight but crazy?

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  24. I've never asked or wanted everyone I meet to address me as 'lesbian.'
    & What does 'dressing and acting like men' mean exactly?
    And on the topic of rape, if you go over past postings here you will find plenty of FTMs claiming that women rape just as much as men and stuff like that.

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  25. (and of course you're free to call me anything you want whether it makes me 'comfortable' or not)

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  26. You saying "I know you're not comfortable with being called a woman, but I'm going to call you one anyways" is like saying "I assume that it's okay to punch people in their face now even though they're not comfortable with it" No. It's not. People do not exist for your comfort, believe it or not. They exist to live their lives and you exist to live yours. People aren't always going to make you the most comfortable. That's life. There is always going to be things in the world that makes certain people uncomfortable. If you're just going to sit here and pick other people apart for years just because you don't agree with their lifestyle, you're not better than a child throwing a tantrum. Transmen aren't going away and calling them women is only going to fuel a fire you don't want to see be sparked. Get over it already. Talk about something new and get on with your life.

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  27. But they ARE women.

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  28. "People aren't always going to make you the most comfortable. That's life. There is always going to be things in the world that makes certain people uncomfortable."

    This is interesting, since transsexualism is based on being made 'comfortable,' no?

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  29. No they aren't. Just because you're not open-minded enough to see that we're not stuck with what we're born with doesn't make it not true. If I was born poor and want to be a doctor, I will work my damn ass off to be a doctor. If I was born deaf and want to hear, I'll get cochlear implants. If I was born a man and want to be a woman, I will have surgery and replace my hormones. If I was born a woman and want to be a man, I will have the surgery and replace my hormones.

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  30. It's made to make THEM comfortable. Just like your bed was made to make YOU comfortable. If I don't like your bed, I'm not going to dedicate my lives to telling everyone the bed is wrong. If i don't like someone's lifestyle, that's not my concern because that's not my lifestyle.

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  31. but in the case of wanting to BE the opposite sex, you will not 'be' it, only try to resemble what people consider the 'norm' of it. unlike actually becoming a doctor or actually being able to hear.

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  32. You're saying they're just wanting to be the norm. There isn't any norm for any body. Some women barely develop breast tissue and are infertile. Well, some mtfs barely develop breast tissue and are infertile due to hormones. Some men have micro penises and are infirtle. Well, some ftms have surgery to have a micro penis and are infirtile due to hormones. What sense does complaining about ftms just being women who want to fit a social "norm" make by comparing them to another norm?

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  33. i don't think any ftm has a penis- maybe a skin tube or something, or a grotesquely swollen clitoris- but all that seems to matter is that they are made to resemble male to the casual observer- that is what i mean by the societal norm. i make no claims that fertility makes one a man or a woman. every cell of your body marks you as your true sex. yes i know a tiny percentage of people are 'intersex,' the heroes of transsexualists.

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  34. aside of course from the way you were treated from birth as regards to your sex and the assumed roles assigned to it

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  35. Again, you're basing your whole set of theories on the vary norm this blog is set out to tear down.

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  36. "Some of them have penises and no ovaries."

    A surgically constructed dangly bit isn't a penis. Flick through Grays Anatomy and see what nature constructed, it's pretty complex on the inside.

    "So the only determining factor is that they don't have a prostate of a y chromosome. That's it." Thats it!? Are testicles just Christmas tree decorations these days? To a scientist the boring, un-phallic bits ARE the sex definers.

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  37. You do know they make you testicles right? It's not like the only things that exist are what Dirt has chosen to post.
    So what if someone has a "synthetic" organ. Do you just consider them lacking the organ all together even though it's there in a different form than you're used to?

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  38. ah! well, if they 'make you testicles' then you really are a man, of course!

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  39. i mean if they make you something that resembles testicles...
    if 'they' make me an udder am i a cow?

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  40. "You do know they make you testicles right? It's not like the only things that exist are what Dirt has chosen to post."

    An oval shaped silicon implant is not a testicle.

    "So what if someone has a "synthetic" organ. Do you just consider them lacking the organ all together even though it's there in a different form than you're used to?"

    Yup. Why should it matter to me that you've got one eye, unless you're driving me down the motorway? I've never met anyone who insisted that people pretend their prosthetic was the real deal.

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  41. We aren't even talking about another species. Just changing your physical appearance to something which is still your own species. I'm leaving now as you have all proven you aren't capable of holding a debate without pulling in irrelvant topics, such as other species, in attempts to validate a point you are not yet educated about enough to actually fully form.

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  42. ok let's say i was born a tall black but am convinced i was supposed to have been born a short asian- i've reconstructed ny face and maybe had my legs shortened and skin color chemically altered to match how i'm 'supposed' to look- am i now asian?

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  43. (& also i'm sure i have an 'asian brain' & there is a huge encouraging subculture of stylish teenagers doing the same exact thing)

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  44. got it- appearance is all that matters.

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  45. Understand, these girls have developed a mental disorder by internalizing both the Gender Straight Jacket and misogyny. Simply explaining to them they're female goes in one ear and out the other, hence the disorder factor. Dismantle piece by piece what caused their disorder and you may make them think (seek help).

    dirt

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  46. "I've never met anyone who insisted that people pretend their prosthetic was the real deal."

    All this supposed DEBATE because transmen want to see a rolled up tube of flesh, and some plastic implants shoved into a cleverly curled up bit of former labia AS a penis and testicles..........

    A glass eye ISN'T a functioning eye, it's just a cosmetic replacement.

    If we could build robotic eyes and wire them up to the brain, then we'd have a FUNCTIONAL eye, even though artificial.

    If we could transplant eyes (well, we can transplant corneas), then we have functional biological eyes.

    So, functional as opposed to cosmetic makes a difference.

    But if you wanted a third eye transplanted into the centre of your head -- well, that is a different matter yet again, you haven't got the SKULL for it, or the nerves, or the neuronal wiring for trinocular vision.

    But in trans land, a very good painting of an eye on your forehead would make you a cyclops, as long as you promise to keep your functional eyes closed until someone plucks them out for you.....................

    "Your sarcasm prove I am not dealing with people who are capable of mature debates" Nope, just means you can't deal with someone pointing out the blindingly obvious.........

    "If your penis is made out of other skin, it's still a penis. Bio-men have phalloplasty too, ya know?"

    Yeah, but like dragging intersex into things, that is frankly irrelevant. You either have someone who HAD a penis but who had an accident, or someone who has a penis, but it's a micropenis. That's a very different kettle of fish from someone who NEVER had a penis, functional or otherwise, but DID have a clitoris and vagina, and they were fully functional.

    "We aren't even talking about another species" O thank you! So you ADMIT that I can't become a cow, not having cow genes, cow bones, hoofs etc etc. What I am genetically and what I am physically is just far too different.

    Except what YOU are genetically and physically is ALSO very different from a male -- you haven't got male genes, you haven't got the physical bits and bobs, you haven't got the internal organs. Sticking a rolled=up tube of flesh on your crotch is the equivalent of a meat version of an udder -- it doesn't make you a man, and it doesn't make you a cow.

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  47. One cannot "dress or act like a man" if one is born female. Everything we do as females IS female, even so call transition itself. Because you are DOING it as a female, which never changes.

    And clothes do not have XX or XY chromos, therefore to "dress" as a sex is pure ignorance/nonsense and nothing more than part and parcel of the GSJ.

    dirt

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  48. even if 'they' come up with a 'functional' penis- the woman upon whom it is installed doesn't then become a man

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  49. I posted a comment a few days ago, and came back to check on the conversation. i see the debate is battling on lol

    My bottom line is this:

    I enjoy receiving male privilege that I get since transition.
    I am respected more in society and people, men and women, are just plain NICER to me.
    I said before, though, transition made me a very good looking dude.

    You ladies keep typing up essays about how much you hate it. :-)

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  50. so every woman who wants to be treated fairly should become a man. sounds like a great idea! (at least she admits it though instead of pretending she was born in the wrong body)

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  51. she (the army lady pretending to be a hot dude) should be your poster child ftm, dirt! too perfect!)

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  52. Anon, I wager she not only is not on T, has had no mutilative surgeries, she has also never passed a day in her life let alone receive male privilege. And I'm rarely wrong about these things.

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  53. To Army lady who looks like a dude:
    enjoy your looks while they last, because trannies NEVER age well--I have not seen one who didn't have a weird, contorted, plastic, and very OLD look to them.
    It is quite possible that your body dysmorphia applies to your face as well and you already look creepy, but don't see it.
    You are wearing down and aging your faces as your female body is fighting for its life. Never in the history of humankind has the female anatomy been under such stress as now under the auspices of "gender reassignment."
    Never before did women, in the history of the world, inject testosterone.
    You are the guinea pigs of the 21st century, all at your own expense and request.
    How stupid are you?
    You are making women look crazy and irrational, hacking off your healthy breasts and paying for the priviledge of being mutilated.
    Again, how stupid are you?
    Get out of your rooms, get off the internet, stop listening to Chaz Bono, and go travel the world. Or go volunteer somewhere. Or go help your grandma with something.
    You will age quicker, look weirder, and only attract perverts who will use you and then discard you for a real woman, or man.
    You will likely end up in porn as a novelty--is that the "respect" you want?

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  54. If that last comment is how you want our point to get across to people, we have no hope, anon. It is very hate driven. You may want to learn from BadDyke and Dirt first before projecting your views so that people are willing to listen. People respect you more when you present yourself respectfully, as BadDyke and Dirt do. I'm not saying this to be hateful, by any stretch, just suggesting to learn better means of presenting a point so people take us seriously. That being said, I do agree with you, however.

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  55. I'm curious to what the people here think about women who desire surgery to alter their bodies (as women). When a ftm cuts off their breasts, it's called mutilation. What about a women who has dysphoria over her breasts, but still identifies as a woman? Is this still a bad thing, in your eyes? Or does the fact that it doesn't stem from a desire to 'change sex' make it more acceptable to you?

    Also, I find the comments about the grossly enlarged clitorises offensive. Not all clitorises are the same - not all of them are cute little buttons, and some women have quite large clitorises, whether they want them or not. In your efforts to describe ftm people as undesirable, you're also hitting out at all women by suggesting that unless their body conforms to your idea of womanhood (ie, breasts, a small clitoris, little to no body hair and hair on their head) they're not attractive. Just thought I'd point that out.

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  56. To the last anon, a post will be put up shortly regarding just that. Stay tuned.

    dirt

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  57. if all FTM are women then that means you are attacking other lesbians for their life choices and what they have decided to do with their bodies...

    tell me again how this is a feminist cause?

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  58. Fighting misogyny and working to dismantle the patriarchal pillars that create that misogyny is how its a feminist cause.

    dirt

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  59. "if all FTM are women then that means you are attacking other lesbians for their life choices and what they have decided to do with their bodies...

    tell me again how this is a feminist cause?"

    Because everyone should be able to do what they (with their bodies) provided they don't hurt anyone else ISN'T feminism, but wishy-washy libertarianism and individualism.

    Feminism is about the power structures that oppress women (as a SEX), and the way that we are groomed and brain-washed into gender stereotypes. Hence commenting on plastic surgery or transition ISN'T (as it would be from the libertarian point of view) having a go at an individual for making an individual bad choice (cos they're stupid, or mentally ill, or just careless), BUT is instead looking at the reasons why MANY people so such things, and HOW we might go about changing it.

    It isn't about being MEAN to women or lesbians or F2Ts one by one individually, but looking at the IDEAS behind their choices, and trying to get people to see that it ISN'T just their own individual choice made for their own individual reasons, but part of a larger pattern and body of ideas.

    Short version -- feminism ISN'T wishy-washy everybody should be able to do what they want, irrespective of sex/gender/race etc etc, that's just basic human rights, not feminism.

    Feminism is about POWER, who wields it, and exactly HOW those lies have invaded all our heads.

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  60. One thing about feminism not every feminist agrees on every idea. Some feminist think porn should be illegal and some believe that it is a since of power. Some feminist don't like the idea of transgender and some don't care and agree with it. Feminist beliefs and ideas just depends on the group of feminist your talking to.

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  61. I never know why people even try to argue on here. A debate or argument is completely pointless when both sides have their mind made up. It's only wasting time. This blog doesn't want to hear about ftm's side or view on things because nothing will change their opinion. This is my first time commenting on here, and I'm doing so just to say that I don't see a point.

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  62. Just a thought: if this blog is about dismantling patriarchal concepts, not attacking individuals, why is so much of it devoted to attacking individuals? By belittling trans-identified people, you're not throwing any wrenches into the "male medical machine."

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  63. "Feminist beliefs and ideas just depends on the group of feminist your talking to."

    Doesn't mean that the differences don't matter. Else you might as just well say --we are all individuals, therefore if I really want to know something, I have to talk to EVERYONE, because there is no common ground.

    Individualism carried to the logical extreme.

    "A debate or argument is completely pointless when both sides have their mind made up." you're assuming that the point of the argument is trying to convince the other side they're wrong. It's not -- there are the undecided, and also the debate, by it's very nature, helps you to clarify your ideas and position.

    "why is so much of it devoted to attacking individuals?" Disagreeing with isn't attacking, and would be really pointless without DATA -- you can't say 'this is what trans people believe' unless you have some evidence to show that is actually the case.

    "because nothing will change their opinion." A belief, NOT a fact. Lurkers and waverers are always there plus we HAVE had example of women who have changed their mind about transition, or regretted it afterwards.

    Plus I bet we can all remember opinions and ideas we had when we were younger, where we were convinced that we'd never change our minds -- yet in the fullnes of time, we did.

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  64. I am ex trans identified in case anyone wants an example of someone changing their mind.

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  65. "I am ex trans identified in case anyone wants an example of someone changing their mind."

    Congrats! I also had big problems with being female. Even if there are just a few people who change their minds - it's still a step in the right direction.

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