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Wednesday, February 22, 2012

A Grown Up Lesson in the Consequences of One's Actions

Hey Dirt I came across my photo and ftm intro video on your website. I would like them removed as I have not given you permission to use them. I believe you are a good person even though we have very strong different views on ftms. So I don't want to fight with you or call you out of your name about this issue. I would just appreciate my video link and pictures removeale. 

I received this message yesterday and wanted to respond to it here.

First let me answer the young lady's request to removing her pic/vid link. The answer is a polite NO.

I can only assume because her videos are public, that she has a desire for her videos to be seen and heard, that she cannot control all platforms in which those videos are seen and heard is a consequence of posting (public or private) videos on the internet. There seems to be an ignorance of many (trans side) who posts pics/videos on the net. Quite simply, if you do not wish to have other platforms use/link your pics/vids then do NOT post pics/vids on the world wide web.

Granted, some may argue copyright protections, but others, can equally argue (including legally) Fair Use, and in my case Fair Use for the purpose of education.

Needless to say to all those posting Trans Trending videos, like transition itself, there are serious consequences to your actions and total control isnt one of them.

dirt

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  1. A valuable lesson... when you post something on the Internet, it's out there for everyone to see (and use), and it's out there forever.

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  2. Right. You never know what kind of sick, maladjusted old fucks will get ahold of your picture and videos and try to use them to perpetrate hate crimes.

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  3. 'old?'
    'hate crimes?'

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  4. Dirt, that person asked nicely despite the reaction your blog causes in most FtMs so removing their video would be the fairest thing to do.
    Why do you always have to be so rude when other people are being polite?

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  5. Despite the reaction this blog causes in many FTMs is a loaded phrase (ditto the hate crime statement), and I think Dirt has the right to defend herself over this. So, what does Dirt actually SAY when she posts these videos? Does she encourage hate crime, or is it just plain ole disagreement with the trans cant.

    To disagree with it, you need to present evidence as to what is actually happening, and these links form part of that evidence. This is REALLY what young women out there are saying and doing. And since such videos are in the public domain anyway............

    Given the repeated claims about encouraging hate crimes, and the repeated attacks and threats of attacks, I don't see this individual case of 'being nice' outweighs the need for information and a factually-based defence against the repeated claims.

    If people are so offended by dirt linking to their vids, then there is some chance they might actually come here and see what is being said, rather than just assume.

    What's doing MORE damage here? dirt posting links, or the trans ideology that has these young women looking forward to a lifetime of hormones and disabling surgery?

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  6. Most states have hate crimes laws, if you have found that someone is using you to perpetrate a hate crime, merely contact law enforcement and let them take care of it to the fullest extent of the law.

    dirt

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  7. Regarding politeness, I politely declined too. I'll add that no true life lesson has ever come to any of us "politely".

    dirt

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  8. The individual is always free to take down the video in question or close her YT account if she feels that being linked here is an invasion of privacy.

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  9. "The individual is always free to take down the video in question.."

    Let's face it, if you are worried about how society treats trans people, then posting a video of yourself on an OPEN board is pretty stupid! Because ANYONE can then see, be it other kids at school, your parents, neighbours etc etc. And they are the people going to give you a hard time, NOT someone on a blog elsewhere in cyberspace.

    Seems to if, if you wouldn't stand up and say it in the middle of the high street, or in the middle of school assembly, then don't say it on YouTube, cos YouTube has a bigger audience................

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  10. Same handful of dried up old women harping on this issue everyday, all day.
    It's funny that you ladies care so much. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Transition isn't the answer for everyone's problems, but it helps some people. I'm happy that I was born in a time where medical technology exists to help me be the person I desired to be. I guess if I was 50 years old now and watching people have something I couldn't, I would be pretty wound up too.

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  11. Hm... I discovered this site by chance. I think I might stay awhile... I am a young Transsexual, but this side of the discussion is quite interesting~~

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  12. So based on this, I am assuming you feel young lesbians videos are fair game also?

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  13. A valuable lesson... when you post something on the Internet, it's out there for everyone to see (and use), and it's out there forever
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    So is this like saying you did not have a fence around your yard so I was entitled to take your lawn mower?

    or...

    You did not lock the door to your house so I was entitled?

    or...

    It is your fault you got raped based on the fact you were flaunting it?

    There are self entitled ways to look at everything in life, but then there are people with values who have respect for others.

    I agree with the anon who discussed hate crimes. Perpetuating hate is a form of a crime. Provable? Probably not.. But still incitement non the less.

    Some while back, Dirt, you posted that when people ask nicely you remove their pics. I had never seen evidence of this, but you just pretty well cleared that up.. They asked you very nicely.

    ...and Dirt, what are you? The lesson police? I suggest this is about power and control where you are concerned.

    MNDR.. Why should they have to go hide in a cave because somebody is hell spent to rain on their life? Why can't they explore who they are without some lurch grabbing their info? Taking those pics is a form of assault and meant to suppress them. Make no mistake about it.

    Bad Dyke, anyone with an ounce of sense who has followed this blog knows you are Dirt's alter ego.. I don't even read your stuff anymore.. So I have no clue what you said...

    Nope, nobody can stop you until the laws catch up with themselves Dirt. Yep, you have full control and power to continue to do this.. But why would you want to? As many kids pics as you have posted your point, whatever that point is, has been driven home.. There is nothing new to add to it except to make these kids feel you have power over them.. The truth is, you don't.

    ...Nuff said

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  14. maybe, but why do you, a middle aged or older lesbian care??

    Stop kidding yourselves, transition does not effect you, unless you choose to transition. Your vague argument is the same that religious people use to oppose gay marriage.

    This isn't a blog about empowering women, it's about hating on trans people. I would love to see Dirt (or anybody) actually write something that would help women. But she doesnt, she posts pics of trans people twice a week, like that's stopping anyone from transitioning. I read this blog before starting a transition, some info here is good, some of it's bullshit. I still knew I wasn't happy living as a woman and i haven't regretted that yet.

    You aren't helping anybody.

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  15. to the anonymous above:
    please explain what 'living as a woman' entails

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  16. "Stop kidding yourselves, transition does not effect you, unless you choose to transition. Your vague argument is the same that religious people use to oppose gay marriage."

    Yeah, because your ~choices~ occurr in a vaccuum and stay in a vacuum, and it never, never influences people, and it never perpetuates patriarchal, womyn-hating stances. Yes, because if a woman decides to alter her body surgically to be accepted by the patriarchy, it's okay, because it's her choice, and no other womyn will be affected by other womyn altering their bodies to please the patriarchal society, and no one will ever force them to do that, and no girl will feel bad if her body isn't what patriarchy wants. We should, also, let anorexic girls starve themselves, because, well, it's their choice and it matters to no one but themselves.

    Be it starving, botox, breast implants or T, altering one's body to match patriarchy's demands is altering not only to the person doing it, but to every, every womyn out there. Because if you starve to match patriarchy's ways, patriarchy will praise you and say, "see? She's good, she's amazing, she' beautiful, she's a real woman" and you'll be compelled to starve yourself too. If you put on breast implants, patriarchy will say, "see? She's the beautiful one, the true woman, her body is beautiful". If you go on T, patriarchy will say, "See? "He" was born wrong. "He" liked trucks and cars and soccer. "He" is a real man. Because a woman can't do that".

    And then patriarchy will say, after thousands and thousands of sick girls, starved, and scarred, and suffering the effects of T:

    "Oh, but it's your choices. And you're beautiful that way. Continue harming your body, more women will want to do it because then they'll be good, true, real, perfect women - Or men".

    So cut that "wahhh it harms no ooooooone" crap.

    And yeah, Lesbians and gays having a good life doesn't mean they harm their bodies. Are you for real? Are you saying artificial hormones like T, surgery to take off breasts and essential organs like uteri are the same thing as loving someone of the same sex and having a sexual/romantic relation with them? Because "transitioning" means harming your body. "Being gay" doesn't.

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  17. i love the way the US Army Anon (who seems like an asshole really) likes to call us 'ladies' as though it's an insult, and as though she isn't a lady (though apparently in disguise as a 'hot dude' enjoying her 'male privelege')... i'm personally in my 30's, is that old and 'dried up' as well? (and that reminds me i wonder if the vaginas of ftm's are self-lubricating anymore) she also thinks people who are against the trans religion (that's really what it is) are just jealous... (sounds a bit like mitt romney!)

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  18. And yet US Army you keep coming back, day after day. Telling, very telling.

    dirt

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  19. Anon@5:18pm,

    Once on "T" ftM vags dry up and emit a strong odor, they are also more prone to yeast infections.

    dirt

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  20. dirt have you had any personal experience with trans *vag*? im guessing thats a HUGE NO....so how do you know it has a strong odor/dries up/is prone to yeast infections? oh thats right you dont, just like you dont know from personal experience all of the other *truths* you claim about T and trans people. just because you read it on the internet doesnt make it true. im a happy owner of a trans *vag* and while the smell has changed slightly (as all people with vaginas know...smell and taste has a lot to do with diet, and where you are in your cycle) none of those things you say happen are the case for me....better luck next time

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  21. Trans vaginas don't dry up. The walls of the vagina thin slightly, making tearing more likely. Sometimes, natural lubrication of the vagina lessens. Other times, it increases.

    Can I just point out that in your attempt to shame trans male vaginas, you also strike out at non-trans women who have strong vaginal odour or who do not have much natural lubrication. By suggesting that a trans man's vagina is undesirable due to 'smell' or 'lack of lubrication', you are also suggesting that women who have a strong vaginal odour or who do not self-lubricate much/at all also have vaginas that are undesirable.

    If you want to disagree with trans people, or trans ideology, or the male medical machine, that's fine. But reducing people to a sum of unfavourable body parts hurts women, too.

    I've seen it done several times in this blog - people saying that large clitorises are unattractive, or that body hair is unattractive, or that a deep voice is unattractive.

    Women have these characteristics, too. They are not singular to trans men. Some women naturally have large clitorises, some women naturally have thicker body hair, some women naturally have deep, husky voices. To say that these things aren't feminine, or aren't attractive, is damaging to women (and, I would have thought, completely against your cause as someone who champions dissolution of the gender binary).

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  22. First off, trans "vag" doesnt dry up nor get have an odor. Speaking as a transguy on T. I think I'd know better than you would. Second, what you do could be seen as cyber bullying and there ARE laws against it.

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  23. Dirt, I am a male-identified commenter, and while normally I do not visit or participate (appropriate) this space, I have a question I'm hoping you will be willing to answer. A trans would-be musician/celebrity Ryan Cassata recently announced that the numerous comments on your blog that are attributed to him are actually from you pretending to be him. These comments are from almost a year ago (March 2011 to be exact). I am hesitant to believe his version because given your unapologetic style, it seems unlikely you'd feel the need to plant fake comments on your blog.

    Here's a link to your post with one of his comments:
    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2011/03/trans-trending-who-is-transitioning_30.html

    Here's his response to being questioned about making that comment:
    http://ryancassata.tumblr.com/post/18166372863/hey-ryan-i-was-just-wondering-something-i-was-on-that

    Thanks.

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  24. From injecting T: "Vaginal dryness and itching that may even occasionally cause pain with vaginal penetration". Sited from: Medical Therapy and Health Maintenance for Transgender Men

    1–3 months after starting testosterone • vaginal dryness. From http://transhealth.vch.ca/resources/library/tcpdocs/consumer/hormones-FTM.pdf

    ...changes experienced by FTMs into groups based on when they occur. Between 1 and 3 months after initiating treatment,dryness of the vagina: http://www.ehow.com/about_6167908_ftm-testosterone-therapy.html

    IV. OTHER HEALTH ISSUES TO CONSIDER WITH TESTOSTERONE USE

    Yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis
    Hormonal changes can cause changes in the vaginal environment. This can bring about two common types of vaginal infections: yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis. In order to treat these infections properly, it is important to properly diagnose which type of infection you may have by seeing your doctor.

    A yeast infection is caused by the overgrowth of a naturally occurring yeast, Candida albicans, in the vagina. If there is a change in the vaginal environment due to hormonal fluctuations, injury, a compromised immune system, increased pH, increased heat and moisture, allergic reactions, elevated sugar levels, or reductions in the populations of bacteria that are normally present, Candida albicans will multiply rapidly and cause the symptoms of a yeast infection. Symptoms include itching and/or a burning sensation around or inside the vagina; a white, clumpy discharge that may look like cottage cheese (discharge can also be thinner and faintly yellow or nearly clear in color); and a smell that is similar to bread or beer.

    Treatment of a yeast infection can range from over-the-counter or prescription treatments such as Diflucan or Monistat to natural home remedies such as inserting plain, unpasteurized yogurt into the vagina, drinking unsweetened cranberry juice, or consuming acidophilus. Check with your doctor for advice if yeast infections continue to occur. They may be more common in the beginning of hormonal transition.

    The yeast infection should not be confused with bacterial vaginosis (BV), another kind of vaginal infection. BV occurs when certain types of bacteria (such as Gardnerella vaginalis, Bacteroides, Mobiluncus, and Mycoplasma hominis) outnumber the normal Lactobacillus bacteria due to a change in the vaginal environment. The primary symptom of BV is an abnormal gray-white vaginal discharge that often has a fish-like odor. There may also be itching and/or a burning sensation around the vagina.

    Bacterial vaginosis is usually treated with antibiotics. Check with your doctor for advice if BV continues to occur. It may be more common in the beginning of hormonal transition.

    This doesnt remotely cover the personal accounts on countless forums confirming exactly what I said, that some women on T may still routinely get wet pussies I've no doubt, but that isnt the majority of the cases.

    Be thankful your pussy gets wet, enjoy it while it last.

    dirt

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  25. commenting because this makes me so uncomfortable that I feel compelled to disagree with it openly.

    so this is totally sick, anon@3:18 has it. saying 'if you put your photo out there, it means people can use it however you want', i guess that's true in a literal sense - there's nothing physically stopping you from pasting up whatever you want. but that doesn't mean that morally or ethically anybody can use somebody else's content, especially content as sensitive as this, however they want. when you say that they're 'learning a lesson' it strikes me as very strange, because it's almost like saying that the 'lesson' is inevitable, that it's just a force of nature that eventually they're going to learn not to put their pictures on the internet. but it's not inevitable! it's a function of you and people like you being disrespectful and, frankly, cruel. it's obvious that most of these young people wouldn't want to be featured on your site..

    do you really think that frightening and shaming young trans people into closing their youtube accounts is going to make them, or anybody, less trans? you might say that you don't intend to frighten or shame anybody, but you couldn't possibly be unaware that this is the effect these posts have - especially since you say 'oh, well if they don't like it, they can just close their accounts and take their videos down'. i mean even if you believe trans* is all a function of media pressure & etc, that still doesn't follow. you can't turn anybody off by intimidating them out of expressing themselves. of course that doesn't mean they 'can' be intimidated, etc. and one just has to let it happen because that's how the world works. it's akin to saying, like anon@3:18 writes, that women shouldn't wear short skirts because that makes them more likely to be raped, and tough, that's just how the world is so maybe they should've been more careful.

    a total load of crap if you ask me.

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  26. commenting because this makes me so uncomfortable that I feel compelled to disagree with it openly.

    so this is totally sick, anon@3:18 has it. saying 'if you put your photo out there, it means people can use it however you want', i guess that's true in a literal sense - there's nothing physically stopping you from pasting up whatever you want. but that doesn't mean that morally or ethically anybody can use somebody else's content, especially content as sensitive as this, however they want. when you say that they're 'learning a lesson' it strikes me as very strange, because it's almost like saying that the 'lesson' is inevitable, that it's just a force of nature that eventually they're going to learn not to put their pictures on the internet. but it's not inevitable! it's a function of you and people like you being disrespectful and, frankly, cruel. it's obvious that most of these young people wouldn't want to be featured on your site..

    do you really think that frightening and shaming young trans people into closing their youtube accounts is going to make them, or anybody, less trans? you might say that you don't intend to frighten or shame anybody, but you couldn't possibly be unaware that this is the effect these posts have - especially since you say 'oh, well if they don't like it, they can just close their accounts and take their videos down'. i mean even if you believe trans* is all a function of media pressure & etc, that still doesn't follow. you can't turn anybody off by intimidating them out of expressing themselves. of course that doesn't mean they 'can' be intimidated, etc. and one just has to let it happen because that's how the world works. it's akin to saying, like anon@3:18 writes, that women shouldn't wear short skirts because that makes them more likely to be raped, and tough, that's just how the world is so maybe they should've been more careful.

    a total load of crap if you ask me.

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  27. I am curious...

    I discovered this site earlier by mistake. I decided to stay since I have always wondered about 'the other side'. Since you keep saying that FtMs are corrupted by society (Something like that), how do you recommend that we 'embrace our female side'? I am a young Transsexual who has not begun hormones yet...

    By the way, I discovered one of my FtM video pictures on here. :D I could care less since I did post it on a public website, but... I have never realized how fat I am in that video o-o

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  28. really you sourced ehow? laughable. yeast and bv? millions of nontrans people get those too!!!! WOW!!! DENIED.

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  29. Dirt, don't you theory towards transmen is flawed? You say they transition to be given the "male privileged" when in actuality, a huge part of them don't receive that because they are openly trans. Why would someone put literally thousands into changing their body over a privledge they probably still won't get?

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  30. "Why would someone put literally thousands into changing their body over a privledge they probably still won't get?"

    First mistake -- thinking that as humans and as women, we ALWAYS make totally rational decisions.

    Second -- this is EASY -- the PROMISE of male privilege, the HOPE that for them, they'll 'pass' and manage to get that elusive male privilege. You just need to read a few responses on here from transmen who CLAIM to pass no problem, everyone treats them fine, just like one of the guys etc etc.

    Even if they don't get male privilege, they still move away from being as easily recognised as female, hence the coin is two-sided, the advantages of not being so easily recognisable as female, plus the possible advantages of being mistaken for a male.

    "but... I have never realized how fat I am in that video"

    Hey, here's some MORE female body hatred, and no one even NOTICED it.

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  31. "really you sourced ehow? laughable. yeast and bv? millions of nontrans people get those too!!!! WOW!!! DENIED."

    Does the trans disorder affect basic english comprehension as well.............

    THe simple point is that incidence of yeast infections etc INCREASES with testosterone use, and if you've ever had such infections ANYTHING that increases your incidence is not to be laughed at. Just saying -- loads of people get them anyway, so taking something that increases your chances is meaningless is such a mind-bogglingly STUPID piece of utter crap, and appallingly written as well, that the writer realy ought to be ashamed of parading their stupidity for all to see.

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  32. "do you really think that frightening and shaming young trans people into closing their youtube accounts is going to make them, or anybody, less trans?"

    The frightening and shaming ISN'T coming from feminists and lesbians, the rest of society is going to chew them up and swallow them whole, whatever gets said on here.

    Stop trying to pretend that its butches and feminists who are the real enemy of trans folk.

    DATA -- unless you SEE and listen to the videos from 13 year old girls, no one I know would ever believe that things had gotten this bad.

    Plus don't be so stupid to assume that what people think at 13 is what the same girls are going to think at 18, or 21 -- some of us do MATURE between those ages.

    But same ole trans crap -- no one else has any effect on their 'choices'..............and their 'choices' have no effect on anyone else either..........

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  33. "commenting because this makes me so uncomfortable that I feel compelled to disagree with it openly."

    Emotional responses trounce any actual analysis. Plus the strength of the disgust expressed seemingly legitimizes the response -- or at least it does when you look at comments about dirts website elsewhere.

    Perhaps part of a larger problem -- personal response or inner feelings are what matters (I'm a MAN cos I feel that I am), not any sort of political or critical analysis.

    How people FEEL about things (disrespect being a word we find used over and over), how people FEEL about pronouns, not making ANYONE feel uncomfortable by not letting them have the body they want, by not using the pronouns THEY want etc etc.

    In fact, same self-centered crap over and over again, how THEY feel matters, not any wider issue. You make me feel uncomfortable therefore you are a BAD PERSON. You must respect me (and my choices), you must not make me feel uncomfortable etc etc.

    Same tired ole crap. An individual doesn't deserve respect if the opinion they are expressing isn't WORTHY of respect (not all opinions being of equal worth, whatever the pomom nutcases may say). And trans opinions on gender AREN'T worthy of respect and DO affect others, however hard they keep claiming that they don't.........

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  34. BadDyke:

    "But same ole trans crap -- no one else has any effect on their 'choices'..............and their 'choices' have no effect on anyone else either.........."

    Now switch it up: "But same ole women's right to choose crap -- no one else has any effect on their 'choices'..............and their 'choices' have no effect on anyone else either.........."

    You sound startlingly similar to an anti-woman conservative politician.

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  35. "But same ole women's right to choose crap -- no one else has any effect on their 'choices'..............and their 'choices' have no effect on anyone else either.........."

    You've have to be a bit dim (and most feminists aren't that dim!) to claim that attitudes towards abortion DON'T have an affect on whether or not an individual woman chooses abortion. Indeed, attacks on abortion clinics and societal attitudes DO have an affect. The effects of a woman choosing an abortion can vary, depending on whether or not the woman chooses to advertise her choice -- a rather different case to trans, where an individuals 'choice' to transition is visible to others. Hence a poor analogy.

    Plus you tend not to find women who have had abortions, or who are planning to, putting up videos on youtube beforehand, or telling everyone what a great choice it was afterwards....................

    Must try harder than such poor attempts at analogies.

    Plus, a woman having an abortion DOESN'T render her permanently sterile (unless things go really wrong, or you believe what right-wing anti-abortionists say).

    Trying to lump feminists and lesbians in with right-wingers doesn't work, not as long as you have half a brain cell, and can see that WHY you object to a thing matters, not just what conclusion you come to. So, right-wingers AGREE with the trans lobby as regards the apropriateness of gender or gender roles, just disagree about the possibility of changing your choices. Whereas feminists say that gender per se is a bad idea, hence disgrees with both the trans lobby AND the right-wing. So, who sounds like whom here when you probe below the surface?

    Only sounds similar if the only argument you have for either abortion or SRS is the libertarian/individualistic one that an individual should be allowed to do what the hell they like with their own body.

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  36. "Why should they have to go hide in a cave because somebody is hell spent to rain on their life"

    Keeping your private life private is not the same thing as hiding in a cave. My point was, the person who posted the vid is still in control, Dirt isn't holding her to ransom by linking to it.

    "Since you keep saying that FtMs are corrupted by society (Something like that), how do you recommend that we 'embrace our female side?"

    I have no idea what a female 'side' is either. Female is a biological state, it doesn't have 'sides', it ain't a set if clothes or a walk or a feeling someone has. When people talk about 'embracing' it, it means accepting that female is what you are and not seeking to hide all visible evidence of it.

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  37. 'I have no idea what a female 'side' is either. Female is a biological state, it doesn't have 'sides', it ain't a set if clothes or a walk or a feeling someone has. When people talk about 'embracing' it, it means accepting that female is what you are and not seeking to hide all visible evidence of it.'


    >> That makes sense. Thank you for answering that.

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  38. "Female is a biological state, it doesn't have 'sides', it ain't a set if clothes or a walk or a feeling someone has. "

    Yep, it's just plain ole BORING inescapable biology.

    Talking about embracing your female side automatically sets up, yet again, the same ole false dichotomy -- female/male, obverse/reverse, front/back, yin/yang etc -- male and female as essentially different. Even adding a spectrum in between doesn't alter the fact that you've stuck male and female at OPPOSITE ends of the same stupid one-dimensional spectrum.

    It's not about 'embracing' one side or the other, its getting away from the concept of SIDES (i.e. gender) all together.

    So, you're female -- what should that have to do with ANYTHING as regards how you act, what you do, what you wear, how you should be treated? Unfortunately, society DOES treat people differently not based on silly GENDER, but assumptions as to whether you have a womb or a penis (surgical simulacra don't count BTW) -- that is, SEX. don't like it? So try to change it, rather than just trying to change sides.................

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  39. @baddyke i had more yeast infections prior to taking testosterone. havent even had one since being on testosterone. additionally tons of medications increase your chances of yeast is going to alter your ph balance will increase your likelyhood. the most common being antibiotics which millions upon millions of people take every day. and calling me stupid really makes you the bigger person. good on you.

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  40. edited *additionally tons of medications increase your chances of yeast, anything that is going to alter your ph balance will increase your likelyhood.*

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  41. BadDyke, I was only drawing a parallel between your arguments and broad arguments against women's rights to choose. Not the experience of transitioning vs. the experience of having an abortion. Obviously those things aren't comparable. Insulting me or your misinterpretation of my point isn't very productive. You will be much more likely to get your point across without ad hominem attacks in the future.

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  42. Bad dyke's observations about ftm 'Feelings' are so right on.

    Dirt, I hope you don't ban me for saying this, but these ftm's seem like such little girls, what with the emphasis on feelings and such.

    Real bio-men are rarely concerned with feelings and are much more pragmatic about their own biology.

    Real bio-men typically have to be dragged to a doctor for real medical issues, let alone pay thosand of dollars for unneccessary surgery these little girls desire.

    Real bio-men generally don't feel a need for attention and would be too embarrassed to post videos talking about their private parts!

    Real bio-men generally don't care about criticism and name-calling, and don't get all wound-up about internet talk.

    I make these points because all the videos and counter-talk here just proves that ftm's are the most girlish-acting of us all. They are playing into the worst stereotypes society has about women.

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  43. It is difficult to believe that someone whom is an advocate in the freedoms of sexuality and a speaker in the lesbian community can come across as such a man-hater. I read your comments about misogynists and agree that it is a male dominated world where women are still treated as delicate flowers or stepping stones. What I do not understand is how you can come across as being pro women and yet critisize those who feel more masculine (your reference to Butch), or those who are men trapped in womens bodies.
    Remember what tolerence is all about. If you fight for the rights of one groups right to not only be treated with respect but to stand up and be heard, then you should also do the same with others.

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  44. I personally do not think that supporters of one cause have to support every other cause. I especially disagree with the grouping of transsexuals with homosexuals as one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Since I'm gay, must I support every body-image disorder? And other mental disorders? Or is it a physical disorder? Only The Brain (which apparently operates in a vacuum) is correct and the whole rest of the body is wrong?
    DOESNOTCOMPUTE

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  45. Anon@2:12pm, if you actually read this blog, you would find quite the contrary given the many posts I've written about the importance of men in both my childhood, growing up and currently.

    Look before you leap love.

    dirt

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  46. Anon@3:30am,

    Unless a woman on T has "trans" written across her forehead, NONE are "openly trans". Society treats people based on perceived sex and I seriously doubt it, when a female on T is "sir'd" publicly they correct the person who "sir'd" them by telling them they are a female on T.

    dirt

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  47. "I make these points because all the videos and counter-talk here just proves that ftm's are the most girlish-acting of us all"

    This statement is way past nauseating. Can we F'ing well get past calling this shit 'girl acting'? It's the behaviour of people who have been crushed under the heel of genderism their whole lives. Sod off calling it GIRL acting and piling on another layer of female shame.

    "there are few very few posts about how great it is to be a woman, or any reasons why/ solutions for how a person experiencing gender dysphoria should deal with it."

    K, I can only give you my 2p: it's not 'great to be a woman' as such. I just realised I had no choice; I was either gonna be a woman who hung onto her sanity and integrity, or one who lived in a fantasy world and was dependant on one drug or another. I think it's important to keep it real, even if being a woman isn't that GREAT or the EASY in this society. Why? Well I have been properly mentally ill and I know that entertaining ANY delusions is a slippery slope.

    Say it was possible to escape into a perfect delusional fantasy, is it right to drop others in the shit so you can have yours?

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  48. 4:30
    when you were a newborn they checked your estrogen and testosterone levels?
    why?
    and how is one 'mentally a male?'
    nonbelievers in being mentally female or male will NEVER agree with the theory of transsexualism

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  49. i just don't understand what 'living as male' or 'living as female' means, beyond how one is treated by others
    also, i do not think many young girls who think they're men were in any way 'ambiguous' at birth

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  50. baddyke. You say we're promised the male privileged if we pass, but a lot of us know we don't and never will. A lot of transguys don't medically alter our body. I get treated worse now than I did before I came out as trans. I didn't do this for some male privelegde, because I knew I would never get it. Now what's your excuse?

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  51. Anon@7:44pm, you do it because you hate yourself as a female, which springs from the heavy misogyny dominating our society.

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  52. I don't hate myself as a female. I don't hold hate for anyone or anything. I just feel more comfortable this way, whether anyone else understands that or not.

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  53. "I don't hate myself as a female. I don't hold hate for anyone or anything. I just feel more comfortable this way, whether anyone else understands that or not."

    From what you said before you don't pass as a man and you are not medically altering your body, so what are you doing thats making you feel more comfortable if you don't mind me asking?

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  54. Dirt, have you ever had those dreams where you have different body parts.. actually feels real? Lets say you have and lets just say you wish you had those parts instead. Then you wake up, reach down and are in shock because those parts are not there.
    Speak your mind, do what you what.. theres nothing wrong with that. I dont understand why you cant be nice, polite or even have a tad respect to someone who asks you in a polite why to remove their photo. Refering to him as a young lady is disrespectful and rude. You could have simply said, "this person" instead. Its kinda like being called "it". Youre no an f'ing object nor do you think you are, youre a human being..

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  55. "Referring to him as a young lady is disrespectful and rude."

    Why? It just means young adult female, right?

    " Its kinda like being called "it" "

    'It' is what we call dumb objects, hence calling a person IT is dehumanising. Sure, there are people who consider female human beings to be dumb objects, but dirt doesn't. If you take offence it speaks volumes about YOU.

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  56. MNDR. You completely missed anon10:54 's point here. Think if someone called you young mister. Would you be offended when you know you are a proper woman? (Assuming you are a woman)

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  57. "Think if someone called you young mister. Would you be offended when you know you are a proper woman?"

    No. Men are just people with testicles and a Y chromosome - not really an insult is it? Just not factual in my case.

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  58. i get called sir all the time (and i don't care; i think it's fun to not match people's stereotypes)- but maybe i'm not a 'proper' woman!

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  59. 30 years ago any women who have short hair and wore slacks was sir'd!

    dirt

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  60. 30 years ago? Really?

    That was what, 1982? And in 1982, women with short hair and wearing slacks were sir'ed???

    Yeah right!!!! LMAO!!!

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  61. "I dont understand why you cant be nice, polite or even have a tad respect to someone who asks you in a polite why to remove their photo. Refering to him as a young lady is disrespectful and rude. "

    Again, this fascination with being nice, polite and RESPECTFUL (i.e. acting the way I want you to act).

    Feminists realised long ago that asking people to be nice and polite and respectful to women wasn't going to work. Ditto these cries for 'respect' for transmen and their male fantasies, because the very request totally IGNORES the way that genderism and sexism and misogyny acts in this society. So, you can't escape being treated as female (with all that entails) by asking nicely! Else we wouldn't have had to bother with feminism in the first place.

    Same whinging on about 'respect' when anyone says anything a teeny bit critical about males and/or male behaviour -- you get labelled a man-hating lesbian faster than we used to thirty years ago!

    "Then you wake up, reach down and are in shock because those parts are not there." Yeah, and we've all had those dreams where you can fly, and woken up 'in shock' because we can't.......Most of us can distinguish between fantasy and female reality. It doesn't matter how long you obsess or how hard you WISH you had a dick, it ain't gonna happen (I don't refer to those awful surgical attempts as such). The best that any of us can do is face up to the REALITY of what being female means in this society, and then doing our damndest to try and CHANGE that, rather than trying to CHANGE ourselves and live in some fantasy land where we 'escape' being female because we refuse to identify as female.....................

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  62. "I was only drawing a parallel between your arguments and broad arguments against women's rights to choose. Not the experience of transitioning vs. the experience of having an abortion. Obviously those things aren't comparable. Insulting me or your misinterpretation of my point isn't very productive."

    Nope, it was your poor choice of analogy and cheap-shot 'you sound like right-wingers'. I wasn't particularly aware that I WAS insulting you (or is this yet another case where pointing out that someone is being stupid counts as an insult?).

    If you don't want your point to be misinterpreted, then perhaps you could try writing more clearly? Or perhaps you could just GROW UP and admit that what others say leading on from what you said is a bit more constructive and usually not what you intended -- and that someone else coming out with something you didn't intend as a result of your comments isn't just an insult or a misinterpretation.............

    So, feminists that object to the trans ideology being 'like' right-wingers, or christians that object to gays, or people that object to abortion -- nope, been there, heard it all before, and usually just means that you haven't got an ACTUAL argument, so just vainly try to tar feminists with an unattractive brush.

    Such right-wingers are your friends, in that THEY also believe that men and women are different in the brain - they just don't think that god makes mistakes and that you can have a male brain in a female body...........

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  63. "If you fight for the rights of one groups right to not only be treated with respect but to stand up and be heard, then you should also do the same with others."

    Because that ISN'T what feminism is. Saying that everybody should be treated with respect is just basic human rights -- although the trans crowd seem rather unwilling to treat with respect the rights of any group that disagrees with the trans ideology BTW.

    The point about feminism is it asks the HARD questions as to why do women as a sex class get treated the way they do, both now and historically. And asking that question, we could then PREDICT that some females would try and escape that oppression by claiming that they AREN'T women at all.

    So, WHY does society think that women and men are different in the head? -- the same belief we get from the trans crowd. WHY does society react so strongly to people who aren't heterosexual, and restrict their access to marriage, a meaningful family life (or even an acknowledgement that they ARE a family)? This isn't society playing silly games with gender (a game that the patriarchy INVENTED BTW), but based on SEX. And if you can't see that you'll never understand anything about how society is the way it is and why trans people (and others) get treated the way we do.

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  64. You know you should really stop labelling all trans people under one description.
    Most of them don't attack people who don't agree with them. Some just move on and keep going with their lives because they know that the fact that someone disagrees with them doesn't affect them.
    So don't label all of them under the tag "hateful confused young ladies who want to escape female oppression" because most of them couldn't care less about what other people think.

    And yes I know you're going to use the "then why are you on my site if you couldn't care less". Well because I'm not trans. My brother is (FtM). I'm only here because your personality fascinates me.

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  65. "You know you should really stop labelling all trans people under one description. "

    Quote from Life of Brian -- we're all different. (in unison), yes, we are all different............

    Common ideology, that is what is being criticised, and evidence shows how COMMON this ideology is.

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  66. "If you don't want your point to be misinterpreted, then perhaps you could try writing more clearly? Or perhaps you could just GROW UP and admit that what others say leading on from what you said is a bit more constructive and usually not what you intended -- and that someone else coming out with something you didn't intend as a result of your comments isn't just an insult or a misinterpretation............."

    Who should right more clearly, BadDyke? And maybe you should just grow up and realize you can be criticized and sometimes should be.

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  67. I meant "write" in that last post. But I understand that since I committed a thoughtless error, my point will be considered even less invalid.

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  68. "And maybe you should just grow up and realize you can be criticized and sometimes should be."

    That's rich, given that criticism (or indeed just questioning), is something that doesn't go down well in transland (and gets you labelled transphobic...).

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  69. Oh my god, all this hate and mud slinging... really? necessary? no... guys/girls/everyone in between ( I will get railed for putting guys first here inevitably) we are all on the fringes and have to struggle with the way the mainstream treats us, so would it not be easier and better if we could... all... just fucking get along!? Are we, any of us that fundamentally different? take a long piece of string for example and put all of us at any given point along it... we are all just different and equally relevant parts of a beautiful spectrum.
    Sheesh!
    Peace... yeah? there's enough trouble in the world without this adding to it.

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  70. "so would it not be easier and better if we could... all... just fucking get along!? Are we, any of us that fundamentally different? take a long piece of string for example and put all of us at any given point along it... we are all just different and equally relevant parts of a beautiful spectrum."

    Nope. There IS a fundamental difference here, between those who think that men and women are essentially the SAME in the head (feminists), and those who think they are fundamentally different in the head (trans crowd and the rest of society). Different enough that some people with a 'male' brain and female body will actively seek out major surgery in order to align their body with the gender of their brain. This is NOT a minor difference that is being hypothesized here!

    Plus I reject your stringy spectrum as well! The usual linear and simplistic trans thinking that has male/female at opposite ends, you just can't get away from that simple binary can you?

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  71. #Bad Dyke..Well I was speaking more about the vaster spectrum of humanity and the fact that ALL lgbt people are on the fringes, we all live lives that are seen as abhorrent by the majority of mainstream society and perhaps supporting one another and embracing the differences whilst celebrating our collective otherness would be a far better way to go about things, I just do not see how it is helpful for us to be on opposite sides, I for one do not subscribe to nor am I glued to a gender binary, quite the opposite in fact. I will thank you however for finding a way to make what I attempted to put out as a positive thing into something negative, this is a rare skill, and sadly the response I was expecting.
    Oh well, you enjoy your life and I will enjoy mine.

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