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Monday, December 26, 2011

So Much Fear and Hatred From This Trans Community

A few comments awaiting moderation AND on Christmas of all the days of the year.

Not surprisingly both comments (perhaps from the same girl?) were on the poignant guest post from a female transitioner who decided to take steps to detransition as best she could. To those who develop this societal disorder, transition is the fairytale-happily-ever-after-story, when the book is closed and they're confronted with reality, violence and anger set in. The fact is there hasnt been a single happily ever after transition story, not one. There is no happiness found when the troubled mind remains troubled. Brutalizing the body to achieve mental happiness and stability remains a fairytale, comments such as these prove that.

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31 comments:

  1. wowee
    SUCH female-hatred

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  2. & i've never understood younger people picking on older people for being older- is she going to stay 25 forever?

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  3. So the comments of two idiots represent the whole of the trans community....

    Oh okay.

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  4. That dude is quite aggressive, I admire his insults for the ridiculousness of them. I hope he chills out and stops being so hateful.

    Yeah, well Dirt the majority of comments you get from Transmen are polite. You can't say it's all or most of us doing that kind of thing.

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  5. bur all that really matters is that people think she's a 'dude' anyway

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  6. The line "No wonder there is so much misogyny.. it's because of bitches like you" at the end is priceless.

    On a side note, I don't see nanotech an/or genetic engineering being applied to sex operations anytime within 50 years or so..

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  7. Oh my! Why would anyone get so angry at Dirt? After all, the only thing she's doing is saying we are not real, we are not who we say we are, we are condemned to a life of loneliness and anger, we don't pass, we don't know ourselves, we can't love anyone and a few other harmless condemnations. I can't imagine why anyone would get angry at THAT! I've never heard of a lesbian getting angry over any kind of attack on her identity...

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  8. Wow! Talk about anger? That obscene comment was anger carried to an absurdity and I cannot for one second imagine anyone harboring such an incredible and grotesque anger to be the least bit happy with their life in any possible way! What is more it is beyond certain that their transitioning to the social role of the other sex is certainly not going to fix what ails them!

    That said... while I agree with you dirt on just about every single thing you have ever said, I still hold that one of the roots of the problem differs from the gender straight jacket that has been applied to the human race (and the female side in particular) That other root is the self aggrandizing and self justifying conflation of Transsexual with Transgender.. Transsexuals are rare...They have always been rare as in hen's tooth rare.. And for each and every one of them, the issue never is or was their "gender but a bodysex dysphoria that simply cannot be fixed currently by any other means than their physical transition. I would even go so far as to say that to a one. (and of the very few I met, I have asked) "if you were offered ANY other means to bring your ~id~ into line with your born sex, even right up to the operating room table, would you take it?" To a one they all said the exact same thing. "It in a heart beat!"... But sadly there isn't any other fix... yet... and so they take the decidedly second best path to fix their issue... So for them, and them alone, this is a second rate fix , but it is still a fix so most of them do lead a happy ever after life. But for those who comprise the "trans, transgendered, trans-man, trans-woman majority" and we are talking the 99.99% of those you will encounter. The issue is exactly as you laid it out Dirt.

    It is an issue of gender, gender roles and social gendered expectations and their desire to transition as a a means to address those issues is simply WRONG!

    Their's is not, and never will be about their physical sex congruity and so this epidemic of their being given an accetable wink and a nod social recognition as the other sex because of an unneeded and unwarranted medical intervention really is not the fix! In fact I can hear our foremothers who fought so hard for the rights of women to determine their on way as women rolling in their graves now that girls are being told their only two choices in this life are to be a plastic whore for a man, or they can pretend to be a man...

    It's sad! So very very sad!

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  9. I agree Miz- Either become a sex object for a man or pretend to be one..There are some "in betweens" I always identifed as an "Athletic"
    female since I participated in sports and like to wear comfortable clothing. I am very happy with where I am today. But it is difficult if you do not fall into the sterotypical female role. Took me about 20 years to realize there was nothing wrong with me. I just don't like to wear dresses.. So what?!

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  10. I second that, More.

    These comments are very aggressive. But i don't care. Dirt brought this on herself and I don't feel badly for her at all.

    She had it coming.

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  11. Wow. The most stereotypical parody of misogynistic rants ever concocted.

    Perhaps a time-waster rather than a genuine case of psychotic self hate? Either way it makes you wonder about people.

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  12. Just because one or two idiots wrote crap like that does not mean that that is how the whole community feels that way. I get hateful comments on my blogs and on youtube all the time from butch lesbians but I don't blame the whole community for some ignorant assholes.

    They just sound like they want some attention even if it's only negative attention. I feel sorry for them actually seeing as how hateful they are. Must be some teenager or teenagers.

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  13. I just don't understand how Dirt can say there hasn't been a successful transition. I think it's up the person to say whether or not they are happy with their decision. I know plenty of guys who are very happy, successful, and settled in their new lives. Dirt doesn't know everything and cannot speak for everyone. To think that she can speak for every single person who has transitioned is beyond arrogant.

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  14. "After all, the only thing she's doing is saying we are not real, we are not who we say we are"

    Seriously?? You have NO explanation why you are male and you expecting people to BELIVE what you say WITHOUT being sceptic and questioning it?? How deluded is that?
    The truth is - If you have the right to say what you think you are then other people have the right to not belive you. Espescially if you have no reasonable scientific explanation.
    You really remind of of religious fanatics who whine while people don't belive their god exist.

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  15. Sorry XD There is one "of" to much.

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  16. And yet you insist that these F2T's aren't men? I shudder to think that such misogyny could actually come from a woman!

    Speaking of men, I would like to say hi to Miz Know-it-all, who happens to be an M2T himself.

    C

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  17. You don't know that Miz is Trans. It doesn't say anything on her profile that she is. You're really just picking at straws. Even if she was it wouldn't invalidate her comment.

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  18. Echoing Miz: http://fusion.kent.edu/archives/spring04/trans/trans.html

    Hope someone finds it useful

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  19. It just goes to show how much hatred the twanz has for anyone. It's like they claim to be the most tolerant of all people, but I guess what they show on the outside doesn't really show what they REALLY are on the inside.

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  20. More, as you clearly do not seem interested in empowering women, embracing your womanness, dismantling the gender straight jacket or any other feminist endeavor. Why as a happy, well adjusted new "man" do you choose to hang around a femalecentric space whining and obsessing?

    dirt

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  21. Dirt you didn't address a single thing he said. Again, being confronted with moral intelligence leaves you to your overused, tired, self-made vocabulary.

    Thats all you have....That is truly all you have in the world. That is so sad.

    I'll pray for you Dirt. Perhaps you'll find happiness and mental health one day. Your arrogant obsession has gotten you nothing but a national label of "bigot" and "bully". That is who you are. And that is your legacy...

    So sad.

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  22. Wow. i must stand alone here when i say that i don't believe Dirt could have said ANYTHING to have deserved the "get raped by a gang of niggers" thing. I wish Dirt would stop allowing ftms to input their snotty comments here and direct them to one of the thousands of trans ass kisser blogs

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  23. of course, More, everybody who thinks transsexualism is a load of hooey is actually transsexual themselves...
    oy vey

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  24. Dirt, in my travels I have had the opportunity to meet and get to know quite a few FTM's. If I were to use one single word to describe most of them, then that word would be "weird". I definitely don't get any male vibes from them, and more often than not, they've seemed quite lost and confused.

    Reading what Miz said above, I find much to agree with. There seems to be an epidemic of transgenderism spreading throughout the Western world today, and it is having serious repercussions on our young people. Rather than standing up for themselves and breaking free of the gender straightjacket, these young people are being led down the wrong path, and one which they will regret after it's too late. Unable to accept the blame for their mistakes, they tend to lash out at anyone who reminds them of the horrible mistake they're making.

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  25. Every generation finds new ways to rebel against their parents and society in general. In the 1960's we had flower children. In the 1980's girls dressed like Madonna. And now we have this transgender thing.

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  26. The amount of female hatred in these rants is very telling, aside from whether you think this sort of anger is justified given what Dirt and the rest of us say.

    Says a lot about the young women (I presume) writing these rants, how much they really hate themselves, and how desperately they are clinging to their belief that since they are still young, they will be able to successfully transition...............And woe betide anyone who tries to burst their little bubble.

    Here's to us hags! And dearie me, why do these silly girls still think calling someone a cunt is an insult? They'd rather have a non-functional lump of flesh than a working, multi-orgasmic cunt, how silly is that!

    Whilst the patriarchy, who thinks we are ALL cunts, however much surgery or hormones we have -- because after all, imitation is just a form of flattery as far as they are concerned. The patriarchy laughs at the stupid cunts who think that any amount of surgery or hormones can make them the equal of REAL men like themselves.........

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  27. Anon@5:30am, Rebellion has never held such a mortal stake, nor relied on the male medical machine for its purpose.

    dirt

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  28. Anon 5:25
    What exactly are "male vibes". I don't think men and women give off different vibes. I thought the point is men and women don't have to act a certain way. It's to be yourself and act how you want comfortable on your own skin. Without medically altering it.

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  29. Similar to the gay or lesbian vibe, has zero to do with "acting" and much to do with essence.

    dirt

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  30. It's funny someone mentioned Madonna. I remember in the early 90's she was advertising/looking for boyish girls/androgenous female dancers. That really impressed me.

    I think most of the FtM anger comes from them knowing deep down that they are just kidding themselves and it's just a masquerade. Those comments were also pretty racist.

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  31. Wow, I feel bad that someone would say such harsh words to you. All you do is have an opinion. To some people it may be wrong and to some it may be right.
    Yes, I do identify as trans and I am FTM. I have read your blogs and I see your points.

    Please everyone who reads this do not think that everyone in the FTM trans community is like this.

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