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Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning



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  1. Sorry -- but women in binders doing camp gay male -- is there ANYTHING about females and female sexuality that we are proud of, that we'd rather bind our breasts and play at camp gay men...............

    Just looks to me as if ANYTHING male is 200% better than just being a plain ole WOMAN. God, who could be proud of that! Not these women, obviously.

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  2. in a few years they'll all look as outdated as people still sporting tribal tattoos and baggy rave trousers
    it should be fascinating to see this new subculture (and it is new, in these vast numbers) as they age (if they do)

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  3. "in a few years they'll all look as outdated as people still sporting tribal tattoos"

    Ah well, I've got a few tribal tattoes myself, but not the purely tribal/random black squiggles that some people end up with!

    Reminds me of Pat Califia -- rather become a bisexual transgender men than an older lesbian going through the menopause. And she said:
    "I think a lot of dykes ARE transgendered. There's considerable overlap between butch experience and FTM identity"

    Again, NOTHING left for butch lesbians, we're all just would-be FTMs without enough balls to admit it, as a recent poster on another thread almost admitted when they tried to thorow this is an insult at Dirt.

    Lesbians in man-suits, any other examples? Apart from Chaz Bono that is.......

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  4. This is new in western culture. Non-western? Not so much. I will say that a number of young people aren't doing much soul searching before they claim an identity (sexual orientation, gender identity....IDENTITY in general) and THAT is concerning.

    And wearing a sports bra can also be considered binding, btw. Doesn't necessarily have to be a compression shirt.

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  5. All comments that aren't mean and hurtful towards these people or aren't dogmatically idiotic and insensitive (BadDyke) get deleted.

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  6. When you post these links you are subjecting these trans folks to harrassment. This is not furthering your cause in any way.

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  7. To the above anon. Dirt wants these people to be harassed and made fun of and condescended to. That is the true reason why she does this.

    She aims for humiliation and attempts to shame these children.

    That's all.

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  8. to the anon above, T will make you look 100% like a male...if they never took their clothes off you would never know they were trans (after taking T for some time)

    There is also a huge difference between sex and gender...being part of the LGBT community dirt and a butch woman i am sure you understand this and i hope you believe that sex and gender are not always the same. You spew hate at them...and think that will get these young people to change...but it's not. At a time homosexuality was considered wrong or could be a chosen lifestyle like you are saying transgenderism is. I find it sad you have to hate on these individuals and can't just let it go or ignore it...they are just kids as you say. Would you really want a person hating on you when you were that age and still confused about who you were and struggling to find this out.

    November 2, 2011 1:43 AM


    I agree with you 100%...couldn't have said it better!

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  9. LALL,

    Basic build, bone structure and basic female characteristics do NOT change no matter how long a female is on testosterone.

    There are no guarantees that years on T even will promise a female transitioner passes 100% of the time.

    Take Chaz Bono as an example, she has been transitioning for over 3 years and she still looks like the same old dyke pre-transition.

    dirt

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  10. @ LALL and others who say Dirt is causing harm by humiliating young FtMs -

    I first discovered trans scepticism when I wasn't mature enough to see that it was trans ideology being criticised, not the individual. For a while it made me feel lost and victimised, but I got over it and ultimately, the wake up call did me a huge favour. It's called tough love.

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  11. i just saw 2 obvious small bearded young transmen (not together) and what makes me notice them so quickly is the insecurity that always seems to shine through- as 'comfortable' as they always seem to claim they are, a very clear uneasiness emanates.

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  12. i just saw 2 obvious small bearded young transmen (not together) and what makes me notice them so quickly is the insecurity that always seems to shine through- as 'comfortable' as they always seem to claim they are, a very clear uneasiness emanates.

    November 2, 2011 3:04 PM

    how are you sure they were transmen? what if they were just feminine guys? how do you know they were trans?

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  13. It is absolutely untrue that testosterone makes women look 100% like men, even when clothed. No more than estrogen makes MTFs look 100% female.

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  14. 3:37,

    because I'm not stupid
    (and my neighborhood is a 'hotbed')
    and they tend to look at me in a certain way

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  15. and the shape of the eyes never changes
    and one had quite feminine hips & was sure it was a dyke from the back but had a feeling from the ultra-masculine posing she was trans and saw was right when saw the hair on her face
    the other was just as absurd and phony

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  16. AND one went into the LGB(and unfortunately) T center

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  17. ^ hate incarnate.

    You are despicable. A disgrace. I want nothing to do with you hateful worthless dykes.

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  18. (also i saw the regular one from the health food store- the gay man who i knew when she was a lesbian)

    i don't really feel 'hate' for these people; the simple-mindedness and over-genderedness they embrace just makes me worried for society

    (and i'm not a feminist just a realist)

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  19. (& i notice that 'worthless dykes' like myself never call ftm's things like despicable or worthless- that kind of name-calling only comes from the trans side... also, i don't believe in/ascribe to all of the theories and ideas of 'dirt')

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  20. (i realize i called one absurd and phony, but that's because her attempt at looking and acting male seemed so forced and excessive)

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  21. Maybe that's because she's PRETENDING to be transgender, smarty.

    Put two and two together CORRECTLY for once.

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  22. "T will make you look 100% like a male...if they never took their clothes off you would never know they were trans (after taking T for some time)"

    Yeah, right, dream on. More lies from Camp Trans...........

    "All comments that aren't mean and hurtful towards these people or aren't dogmatically idiotic and insensitive (BadDyke) get deleted."

    No one has the right to not be offended. So, if we think that the usual trans cant, or trans ideas about sex and gender are nonsense, then that of course causes OFFENCE and HURT to those who believe that they're not, and who are building their identity on such beliefs.

    Of course, we never hear the trans camp commenting on the hurt that MIGHT be being caused to dykes by the trans trend, or even any willingness to admit that there might be some small possibility of dykes or other women who don't do feminine mistakenly thinking of themselves as trans. And we are talking real hurt here, in terms of women undergoing unneceesary surgery.

    It really is an insane campaign of suppression of dissent that we are getting on here. Don't criticise the trans cant or trans ideas on gender in any way, else we'll label you as transphobic. Don't use real cases (from people who have themselves decided to make their identity and transition PUBLIC) because that causes 'hurt and offence'. I'm sure if we didn't use real cases, we'd instead be accused of not knowing what we were talking about, and that if we educated ourselves by knowing some trans people, or listening to these very same women on youTube, we'd change our views.

    "When you post these links you are subjecting these trans folks to harrassment. " WHy, by DARING to disagree, by saying that these women may be motivated by misunderstood internalised misogyny, rather than the magic male voice inside the brain that they are supposed to be responding to? By daring to QUESTION a persons own interpretation (or, to be truthful, the trans cults interpretation of their experiences, because none of these YouTube posters is doing this in a vacuum, they are all influenced by what they have seen on YouTube themselves) of their experience. By daring to CARE about the fact that women are subjecting themselves to painful and disfiguring surgeries and hormone treatments in some misguided attempt to escape the shackles of societys views as regards what proper women/females do and are.

    "You are despicable. A disgrace. I want nothing to do with you hateful worthless dykes."

    O look, dyke being used as an attempted insult! Because why has the fact that some of us on here MAY be dykes got to do with the issue? but we should have expected it from some, really, because obviously being a simulacrum of a straight man is soooo much better than being a common or garden dyke, or a common or garden woman.......................

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  23. "Maybe that's because she's PRETENDING to be transgender, smarty.

    Put two and two together CORRECTLY for once.
    "

    she's pretending to be transgender?
    well she's not pretending to be on testosterone.
    every trans person thinks that they are the one doing it for the right reasons.

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  24. Sorry -- but women in binders doing camp gay male

    Yes! Imagine that, Transguys can be any type of guy, isn't that insane.

    Yeah, right, dream on. More lies from Camp Trans

    Camp Trans.. Have you ever heard about othering? As in there is always an other that you are fighting against, instead of treating people as individuals. If you've noticed I have never attacked feminism or radical feminism as a whole.

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    Dirt deletes all my comments the majority of the time. And I am not being hateful.

    >we never hear the trans camp commenting on the hurt that MIGHT be being caused to dykes by the trans trend, or even any willingness to admit that there might be some small possibility of dykes or other women who don't do feminine mistakenly thinking of themselves as trans

    That is a possibility, But you are attacking trans people as a whole. I don't think there is such a thing as "Trans trending". Its just easier to express yourself nowadays and that means more trans guys feel they can express themselves openly without fear of violence.
    I do think some young butch women could mistake themselves as Trans. But I myself can't think of a way to completely stop this from happening. Other than through education in LGBT spaces about gender.

    >WHy, by DARING to disagree, by saying that these women may be motivated by misunderstood internalised misogyny, rather than the magic male voice inside the brain that they are supposed to be responding to?

    Its not your disagreement that is the issue. You have a right to your opinion. But Dirt is posting these pictures in a way that seems to be "pointing and laughing". If you truly believe these people have a mental illness or need help then certainly that way of showing your disagreement is nothing but harmful. Also if you do not want to continue the circle then, I came here because I find your arguments fascinating but I also contact all the people on Trans Trending posts to let them know SO dirt posting these has found me friends within my community.

    >obviously being a simulacrum of a straight man is soooo much better than being a common or garden dyke, or a common or garden woman.

    I am a man whether you think I am or not. My view of what makes a man a man or a woman a woman is different from yours, thats all. I never identified as a dyke or lesbian, I was always bisexual. And was always rather masculine too. For me, I am more comfortable and happy living my life like I am but that doesn't mean I think less of women or think that women are worth less.

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  25. I hope these kids sue the pants right off your ass.

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  26. I would argue that all transpeople are pretending to be trans, since nobody can know what it feels like to be a man or woman, other than perhaps certain sensations in certain organs.

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  27. and not in The Brain- that's called 'thinking.'

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  28. from the ftm-spotter:
    just saw an elderly one
    still doesn't 'pass'

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  29. "Other than through education in LGBT spaces about gender."
    Whose version of it? The trans male brain version, or the feminist, gender as a social construct view?

    "But you are attacking trans people as a whole." NO! Disagreeing with what some people believe about themselves or others isn't the same as 'attacking' all of them or any of them, just their belief system.

    Just as saying -- Jesus never existed -- isn't an ATTACK on all christians.

    "If you truly believe these people have a mental illness.." Not me -- but the medical establishment that provides the surgery DOES, or did you miss that?

    "But Dirt is posting these pictures in a way that seems to be "pointing and laughing""

    All she put was:

    Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning

    Is that pointing and laughing? She isn't posting pictures, but LINKS that people put up themselves. THEY are the ones who decided to put themselves on YouTube, Dirt just says -- here are the new ones this week.

    "Transguys can be any type of guy, isn't that insane." Well, it is if you REALLY, believe that a biological female can be any type of gay MALE........

    Note the word DOING -- I'm saying gender is something that SOME people DO, you insist it is something some people ARE -- hence disagreement at the most basic level.

    "I am a man whether you think I am or not. My view of what makes a man a man or a woman a woman is different from yours, thats all." Yes, but it is a potentially DAMAGING view, in that (I assuming a bit here because I can't be bothered to find all your past posts), that MAN and WOMAN fundamentally boils downs to DIFFERENT brains (or at least differences in the brain). I think that is an unproven, and highly dangerous view, the sort of view that was/is used to oppress women throughout history. There's no 'that's all' about it, you don't seem to have any understanding of why that would incense feminsts so much.

    "And was always rather masculine too." Which means fuck all...............

    "I am a man whether you think I am or not." Yeah, and I'm a tree.

    "I never identified as..." God, I'm SICK of this puerile language. You can identify with whatever the fuck you like, doesn't MAKE YOU that thing. I might identify with the number eleven, it doesn't make me prime. I don't IDENTIFY AS a lesbian, I AM. Not because I assert I am, but because I am:

    1) female
    2) only do the nice, naughty stuff with other females.

    Simple definition, no magical mind tricks involved. If anyone cared enough, they could check out the factual accuracy of both of those statements.

    Once you get into the la-la land of anyone IS what they SAY they are, then that way lies madness, or at least, the co-option of lesbian/women only spaces/experience, and taking away from others the right to name themselves in a way that DOESN'T include others that don't fit the category they choose to use for themselves. Co-option of linguistic space, as well as physical space.

    "I hope these kids sue the pants right off your ass."
    Go do some reading anon -- once posted on YouTube, you've put yourself in the public domain, copyright etc DOES NOT APPLY.

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  30. So I begin posting up videos on youtube to try and help other FTM's like myself find their own way and not feel so alone, and I get posted here to be laughed and criticized at?

    Wonderful...

    Well, I suppose everyone has an opinion. You keep on posting, and I'll continue to help people like myself.

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  31. not everybody thinks that what you're doing is 'help' or that these kids are finding or going 'their own way'

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  32. and I don't think anybody is laughing- there's nothing funny about what's happening to these young women and the many thousands more going along with this bs

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  33. To the Anon above.

    I don't know how anyone cannot understand that sharing and talking to someone else who has had similar experiences in this subject, or any subject, can help. It makes you feel less alone for once in your life when you can share the "a-ha! Me too!" moments, which previously made you feel so alone and weird. With this sort of subject a lot of people need to have those as well as to know that, as the campaign says, "it gets better."

    While I respect your right to have an opinion, I can assure you personally that none of this is "bs." It is simply so new to being this out in the open, that it may be unbelievable or uncomfortable at first. I know I had thought that for some time, forgetting all my problems with this subject thanks to self-induced amnesia with y dysphoria.

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  34. most women especially non-conforming women would have those same 'a-ha me too' moments- i just don't believe that those feelings make a girl a boy.

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  35. & i think that it's dangerous when kids so young are given 'you're really male' as the reason for the feelings- an easy and illogical explanation

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  36. Get off your high horse BadDyke. No one takes your dogmatism seriously. You don't know shit but your own life experience. So shut your dumb behind up.

    Dogmatic puppy.

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  37. "You don't know shit but your own life experience. So shut your dumb behind up.
    "

    Ah, the usual reasoned debate from the trans crowd............

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  38. yeah, name-calling's pretty much all they've got if you don't believe people are born in wrong bodies

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  39. "yeah, name-calling's pretty much all they've got if you don't believe people are born in wrong bodies"

    I haven't really heard stuff like this since junior school -- well, NO ONE likes you anyway (comments about popularity of Dirts blog falling). Number of times you get told to shut up, that no one cares anyway what you say, and on and on...............

    "No one takes your dogmatism seriously." Rather revealing -- I take myself seriously, a few others do, given the discussions here and elsewhere on the web -- do I really CARE much about elsewhere? Well, it deeply ANNOYS me that so many people can't see through the whole gender nonsense that the patriarchy has fed us, but I DON'T have what the poster obviously hopes -- that if NO ONE else thinks as I do (or I feel that they don't), that I'll change my mind. That if my ideas aren't VALIDATED enough, I'll wither and die............The key is in the emphasis.

    Or is it just the same ole stroppy teenagers versus grumpy ole farts stuff.

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