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Monday, November 21, 2011

A Friendly Reminder

As plainly stated on the front page, this blog is a " A Space for Women to Discuss, Dissect and Dismantle Misogyny and the Gender Straight Jacket. 

I can only assume that there are either some very confused transmen commenting here who call themselves men yet still consider themselves women or that they have absolutely no respect for women's boundaries or women's spaces.

If you are not a woman, if you do not embrace yourself as a woman or if you arent seeking to embrace your woman self, then your thoughts/comments are not welcome here. If you are a transman and feel you have something constructive to add to a post, state why you feel you should be allowed to speak here and then add your comment. If your reasons seem lawful, I'll leave your comment. Otherwise all other comments not from women will be removed.


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  1. i like to read what the ftm's have to say, and i do consider them women

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  2. by "women's spaces" I'm assuming you mean the kitchen?

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  3. How the hell can you tell the diff King Dirty? I'm a women who has left several comments...most (judging by the comments that followed) were assumed to have been left by transMEN...

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  4. I consider most of the "women" here to be trans in denial. Who else would spend so much energy fighting it?

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  5. Why don't you say what you really mean? - that you will delete comments from those who dare to disagree with you. Besides there is no way to distinguish the gender of those who comment. lol!

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  6. Excellent point Anon @2:53pm

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  7. Is it really fair to say transmen aren't welcome here when you continue to run around collecting their pictures and linking their Youtubes? I feel that whatever it is you use to justify doing that can just as well justify them visiting and commenting on your blog, Dirt. Furthermore, the amount of hate you spew also kind of gives them the right to be here. I'm all for you empowering women, but I'm sure you're capable to doing so without putting down other groups as much as you do. But since you choose to, can you really blame them for coming here to stand up for themselves?

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  8. I'm a transguy, and I think I should be allowed to post for a couple reasons.
    The first reason is that while I identify as a man and am currently living as a man most of the time, I feel no hesitation to admit that I was raised and conditioned as a woman, and deal with many of the issues that unfortunately women are forced to deal with because of the way society treats them. As someone with that origin, I relate to people with that past and with that present, and their issues are relevant to me.
    The second reason is because I wish to debunk some of the many sweeping generalizations made about transpeople here. The main reason I read this blog in the first place is that I believe it is important to listen to the opposing argument (I also agree with a lot of the things said here, even if I don't agree with all of it). I also am curious what people think of my opinions which I don't feel are typical of either side.
    However, I will admit that I'm rather unobservant and never noticed the heading. >___>... So if you really want me gone, I will abstain from posting from now on.

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  9. 2:53

    also, people who speak out against eating disorders are really anorexics in denial

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  10. Why would anyone "speak out against" eating disorders. That's like saying one can "speak out against" depression, or aids, or...cancer.

    People "speak out against" hate crimes.
    -Acts of DELIBERATE human fault.

    Eating disorders are not deliberate acts of human fault. You don't speak out against eating disorders. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Which is why your dogmatic logic is generally bullcrap, kid.

    Grow up.

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  11. Dirt doesn't care about trans people who have committed suicide. I truly believe that in her mind she wishes they all would.

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  12. "I had posted a comment asking Dirt to be respectful and not post about trans-related stuff for justt onnee dayyy (yesterday), for the Transgender Day of Rememberance..."

    I don't see why continuing to post wouldn't be respectful (and why this weird focus on RESPECT or is it just another tired americanism, just another shorthand for don't dare to disagree.........)

    Another way to look at it is that every day, one woman or another is having their womanhood either wittled away by hormones, or sliced away by surgery. Who 'remembers' or laments that? Not the trans crowd............they celebrate it instead...........

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  13. Baddyke, I truly don't think your parents beat your ass quite enough. I truly don't.

    You think like a selfish spoiled ignorant child.

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  14. So...

    the suicides of transgender people who faced bullying, abuse, discrimination, and otherwise mean nothing.

    Really Baddyke?

    They mean nothing because EVERY single person who is trans in the ENTIRE world takes testosterone. So their dead already as soon as they take that first shot, right?
    So who gives a damn if the freaks kill themselves, right BadDyke?

    That's what you are saying, you sick twisted mental case. I despise you.

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  15. So...

    the suicides of transgender people who faced bullying, abuse, discrimination, and otherwise mean nothing.

    Really Baddyke?

    They mean nothing because EVERY single person who is trans in the ENTIRE world takes testosterone. So their dead already as soon as they take that first shot, right?
    So who gives a damn if the freaks kill themselves, right BadDyke?

    That's what you are saying, you sick twisted mental case. I despise you.

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  16. 3:40 PM-Any disagreement with people 'transitioning' is hate, right? You want to silence anybody who speaks out about it, yet you come on the person's blog and complain about having your post deleted.

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  17. "That's what you are saying, you sick twisted mental case. I despise you."

    If you REALLY cared about these people who commit suicide, you'd be looking properly at what trans IS, not just accepting the same tired ole line. You'd be looking properly at the actual figures for the long-term effects of SRS and hormones, and concerned as to whether the medical profession was REALLY offering the best 'treatment' for these people.

    Sorry, but don't disagree with the trans cant and /or surgery provision else they'll all go and top themselves really ISN'T a great line.

    "I truly don't think your parents beat your ass quite enough. I truly don't." Ah, and a student of enlightened parenting as well! Parents have been trying to beat the gayness out of kids for years, and that didn't work either.

    I want a world where kids can grow up happy and fulfilled, whatever sex they are, whoever they choose to love, I just don't think convincing some of them that they're boys trapped in a girls body, or spreading the trans ideas about innate gender is a good way to achieve that.

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  18. "Why would anyone "speak out against" eating disorders. That's like saying one can "speak out against" depression, or aids, or...cancer.

    People "speak out against" hate crimes."

    As somebody who used to starve myself from an eating disorder, I'm glad that there were people who told me what I was doing was stupid. I didn't call them anorexic haters, or post threatening stuff to them.

    There have been people saying threatening stuff towards dirt for having this blog.

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  19. If someone made a blog about how women are in the wrong for their oppression and all the mysogony. How many women would be yelling on their blog? A shit load I will tell you that.
    They would get all kinds of hate mail.
    They would also be called a women hater.

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  20. This is A Space for Women to Discuss, Dissect and Dismantle Misogyny and the Gender Straight Jacket. Dirt isn't misrepresenting anything here.. It is written as clear as day on the heading what this blog is for. Get over it, find your own blog. If you want to post something outside of these lines, you are setting yourself up to be deleted and or dismissed. This isn't against anyone personally, Just against self rejection as women.

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  21. Opression is what launched this site in the first place. Talk about the Pot calling the Kettle Black. Yikes..

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  22. Weird how these so called Trans Guys are begging to be accepted in a place they spend so much energy trying to deny about themselves? Womanhood. Maybe you might be more comfortable in cigar shop talking about sports, cars and Chicks?

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  23. All I have to say is this: don't want transguys to post on your blog? don't talk about transguys. It's as simple as that.

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  24. We can discuss whatever we want. It is all part of the Gender spectrum. You trying to oppress women and control what we talk about feels like projection to me. Did some aggressive male try to control you before you started taking T to change the way you appear? Start your own blog and discuss that. Trust me I won't try to infiltrate your blog and dictate what you discuss, cause Im not interested. Bah Bye

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  25. Thank you Dirt, so well put. FTMs, going to all the trouble to "pass" as male, why on earth do you continue to bug dykes and invade our spaces... go off to your man caves, and leave us lesbians to our own inspiration.
    I think you are still women, and still long for women's space... so you've made your choice, live with it.

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  26. Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, bitch!

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  27. Hey you still have a Va Jay Jay.. Go make me a sandwich, Crusts cut off please! Then go wack your fake phallic.. If you resort to this level, you have to be able to take. Now bend over

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  28. You people are all full of so much ate and bigotry. All of you.

    You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I won't be returning. This blog, its creator, the fawners of its creator, the women who post here saying slanderous and hateful things about transmen, and the transguys who resort to calling someone a "bitch" are all apart of the tapestry of oppression and bigotry.

    You're all sick. Especially this poster above me. You have a special strain of the filthy unintelligent disease of hatred.

    Disgusting people you are.

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  29. A va what what???

    Nope, what I have is a pair of balls. I carry them in my pocket.

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  30. Takes one to know one..

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  31. Mommy! Those mean old girls are being mean to me again!

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  32. Patriarchy is alive and doing fine!

    The only reason women gained the right to vote was because men gave it to them. In fact, in our patriarchal culture, every right a woman has was granted by men. This will never change, because men have the power.

    Bitch and moan all you want. It won't help. Bitching and moaning is what women have been doing since the dawn of time.

    There is no hope.

    At least the trans men know the score and are switching to the winning side.

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  33. If it wasn't for a woman you wouldn't even be here, to switch to anywhere. On those cold lonely nights when you have menstrual cramps, When you have to go buy tampons, and when you have had one to many and sit down to pee, and when you are applying scar cream to you long lost breasts, You know who you are. You are just turning against yourself and you know it.

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  34. This ugly blog breeds hatred of all forms. I've seen it all on this blog.

    Misogyny
    Misandry
    Racist white privilege denial
    homophobia - towards gay men and even femme lesbian women

    and the subject most entertained: TRANSPHOBIA. And those who are most transphobic dismiss their actions as being such.

    This blog is a breeding ground for hatred of ALL forms. This evil thing needs to come to an end once and for all.

    "Trans hate blog" google search. You get dirtywhiteboi67- DIRT.

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  35. FYI

    Transphobia = a hatred of transsexuals.

    Being disgruntled with the gender caste system that many people, including transsexuals, have bought into is not the blinkin' same.

    If having your ideals questioned causes you serious psychological damage then don't visit a trans sceptic blog. Why not visit one of the hundreds of pro trans sites there are. And while you're at it, try respectfully questioning transsexuality on one of these sites and you will learn the meaning of censorship.

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  36. I'm a women, I'm so oppressed, i have a computer and internet access but I'm so totally oppressed lmao.
    ungrateful cows.

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  37. Thumbs up to genuine, thought provoking comments whoever they originate from and thumbs down to trolling.

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  38. Well considering you think I am a woman and don't believe I am a guy and this is a womens only space then totally I am allowed here.

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  39. Actually I've never called you or any other suffering from the trans disorder a woman. I've said you are and will remain undeniably FEMALE. If you cannot comprehend the difference, then clearly you need to rethink transition.

    dirt

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  40. There is no thing like a "women's only space" on an open blogg on the internet. Please. You should be old enought to know how the internet work, but it does not seem that way.

    And you go on sites that are closed for none members a copy what people say to use it against them and other people like them?
    Who is doing wrong here..

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  41. "Hey you still have a Va Jay Jay.. Go make me a sandwich, Crusts cut off please! Then go wack your fake phallic.. If you resort to this level, you have to be able to take. Now bend over"

    Sounds kinky, i like em feisty!

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  42. "All I have to say is this: don't want transguys to post on your blog? don't talk about transguys. It's as simple as that."

    Again, thou shalt not talk about trans if what you say about it disagrees with the official line, or is even mildly uncomfortable to transmen...............

    As far as I'm aware, the major topic of discussion here is women, misogyny and gender - hence an obvious topic that is bound to come up is women convinced they are trans. Misogyny, gender, gender roles, sexism effects us ALL.

    And we know a classic silencing and thought-stopping tactic when we see one.

    DON'T talk about trans (or dare to disagree with the trans cant), else we'll label you transphobic (see how well it worked with Julie Bindel and getting that conference cancelled....).

    Don't talk about transguys else we'll all come along and troll your blog, and get rude when our posts are deleted.

    "Well considering you think I am a woman and don't believe I am a guy and this is a womens only space then totally I am allowed here." The point is Etch, WHY do you continue posting here when it is supposed to be for women, and you don't consider yourself one?

    "This blog is a breeding ground for hatred of ALL forms. This evil thing needs to come to an end once and for all. "

    Most trans people seem to come here with their 'hatred' fully-formed. Disagreeing with the trans cant or your interpretation of your experience ISN'T hatred (however uncomfortable or disquieting you may find it).

    Plus TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF -- this evil needs to END is the sort of language that real merchants of hate use, a short-step from that to either censorship, or going out with baseball bats.

    You think someone disagreeing with you is hatred/evil/not respectful -- grow up!

    And coining a word (transphobia) and using that SCARY phobia term everytime someone disagrees with you isn't that smart either -- just that a whole load of soft liberals have been scared by it, just as a whole load of people have been conned into accepting the gender system as some sort of NATURAL aspect of human existence.

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  43. Dirt, I have a disclosure to make. I am not sure whether I see myself as a woman, even though I recognise that I am female. I have struggled with identity issues and questioned transsexuality; in part because my father, who wanted a boy, socialised me as a male and allowed me to believe I was a boy until the age of 4. I don't consider myself to be anything other than female, but I'm not sure whether the conditioning of the first 4 yrs of my life exclude me from taking the label 'woman' as an adult. This blog is providing a lot of food for thought but I wont actively contribute if you prefer.

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  44. If it wasn't for a woman you wouldn't even be here, to switch to anywhere. On those cold lonely nights when you have menstrual cramps, When you have to go buy tampons, and when you have had one to many and sit down to pee, and when you are applying scar cream to you long lost breasts, You know who you are. You are just turning against yourself and you know it.

    November 22, 2011 2:45 AM


    If it wasn't for a man YOU wouldn't be here either ding bat!
    I don't have menstrual cramps not do I have my period. I haven't had a period since I was 19 and I'm 39 now. No scars here!!!

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  45. I have brain sex. Testicles in brain. Forgive english.

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  46. testicles in your brain must take up lots of thinking-room

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  47. o_o Wow, I walk away for one night, and suddenly a million posts...many rather angry and immature posts at that. but what does Dirt think of any of the stuff in my first post here?.....

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  48. It is clear in the heading what this blog is about. Resorting to name calling? Now that's desperation..

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  49. Both sides of this debate have engaged in invective, baiting and hateful screeds.

    This is not the way to win over people to your point of view.

    Well thought out arguments with prepared counter arguments and researching your topic are the way to win over others.

    Calling each other names and spouting off absolutes without acknowledging the exceptions that prove the rule is just silly and makes those who do this look childish.

    Both sides on this debate are doing a lousy job of challenging this observer to embrace their rhetoric.

    Honestly, it is akin to watching monkeys fling poo at each other.

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  50. Anon @ 4:31,

    You have summarized this entire blog; poor mud slinging from both sides. *pops corn and watches the blog implode*

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  51. lol so true, anon @ 5:21. It's just getting entertaining now. I dont know why I ever thought an intelligent, mature conversation was possible on this blog.

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  52. Anon@4:31pm, hence the reason ftms and off topic comments will no longer be tolerated.

    dirt

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  53. In other words, the only feces-flinging that will be allowing in this blog in the future is feces flung by dirt and her ilk.

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  54. Get in the sandwich and make me a kitchen!

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  55. I'm an awesome cook thank you very much. Learned everything I know from my dad. Cook btw isnt sexed unless you are ignorant enough to buy into the gender straight jacket.

    dirt

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  56. Dirt seems like the type to toot her own horn.

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  57. Cooking isn't gendered. I make awesome cakes and vegan curries.

    Also my comment was a joke.

    There are no womens only spaces on the internet, its the frikin internet. Learn to internet.
    You're not doing it right.

    I find the arguments here interesting, I find your views interesting. I comment here because I like a good debate.

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  58. The Etch, you just said almost the same thing I said in a comment above, but it was ignored.

    "Anonymous said...
    There is no thing like a "women's only space" on an open blogg on the internet. Please. You should be old enought to know how the internet work, but it does not seem that way.

    And you go on sites that are closed for none members a copy what people say to use it against them and other people like them?
    Who is doing wrong here..

    November 22, 2011 6:43 AM"

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  59. "There is no thing like a "women's only space" on an open blogg on the internet."

    Except if Dirt chooses to exercise her right to delete unwanted comments, what's the problem? She could do the same if it was members only, but chooses to keep it open, so all can read but not all will have their comments left standing.

    "And you go on sites that are closed for none members a copy what people say to use it against them.." Again, is Dirt supposed to be hacking these sites? If not, and she did do that, they would presumably cancel her membership.

    And your evidence for that is?

    Why demand that Dirt obey some supposed blog ethics, when people aren't willing to do the same and not post where not asked to post, or at least put up with stuff being deleted when it isn't wanted?

    We don't have to talk to you if we don't want to, simple as that. If Dirt wnats a women-only conversation WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

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  60. BD- There is nothing wrong with that, This blog's guidlines are clear. If anyone chooses to deviate from these guidlines, they set themselves up to be deleted. Why waste their own time? Life is too short for that.

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  61. "If Dirt wnats a women-only conversation WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?"

    B-but what about Teh Menz????

    Seriously I think it's good to let ftms comment because we need to read about the opposite part. Women hating comments have to be deleted of course but sometimes it can't be wrong to read their opinions. If they do it without insults and so on it's nothing wrong with this.

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