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Saturday, September 10, 2011

MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder Now DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) and Transition

Since there are several comments/links now regarding DID and the insanity of doKtors transitioning even these folks, I'm providing a post with which to concentrate that discussion. These are the links left in recent comments on the subject:

http://gb-guys.livejournal.com/

http://www.psychforums.com/dissociative-identity/topic64960.html

http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=75820.0

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/nov/01/health.gender

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/nov/03/health.gender?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/09/gender.uk?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

A DID Trans Case Study from the 70's!  If patients weren't properly tested and diagnosed then, imagine how many DID cases are missed these days with online trans "therapy" and "gender specialist" doling out drugs and surgery permissions after only a handful of meaningless sessions coupled with online blueprints on exactly what to tell such "therapists". Given the high stats of females molested as children, and that sexual abuse is usually the catalysis that motivates DID, it is safe to say females are the primary victims of DID. That said, since Trans Trending is affecting only females, one has to wonder how many Trans Trenders are suffering from DID.

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24 comments:

  1. None that I know of or have ever heard of. Again, you are comparing apples to oranges!

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  2. You have a slew of links proving otherwise. Now, if you have nothing to add to the discussion, find something else to do with you time besides obsessing over everything written here.

    dirt

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  3. Why post something if someone can't comment saying that they don't know of any FTM's with MPD/DID?

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  4. I wouldn't guess that people with DID/MPD who are trans, would go around announcing that to everyone. So an answer of "none that I know of" isn't very scientific compared to the volume of mental healthcare commentary on the subject.

    I find it amusing that someone will now jump in with a whiney "if someone can't comment...".

    No one ever said someone can't comment.
    What Dirt SAID was "if you have nothing to add to the discussion..."

    Don't they teach Reading Comprehension 101 in Trans class?

    I personally find this particular discussion the most heartbreaking of all. These women need love and care and healing. Instead, they're getting the scalpel.

    This is a travesty and only underscores everything that has already said about what the backlash against feminism has done to women in America.

    I cannot imagine the lostness and isolation a person must feel, with a shattered mind in a shattered body.
    If that's not hell, there is no hell.
    Again, these people need healing.
    Not scalpels.

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  5. What is the relevance of the last article..?

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  6. Are you people really that dense?

    The relevance of the last article is this woman thinks she is not herself without her vagina.

    PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT YOUR PARTS.

    It's so odd to me that these victims of Post Modern Queer Theory are the ones who understand this the least!

    Quick lesson:

    You sex is determined by your DNA.
    No matter how many surgeries you have, and how much hormone you inject, your DNA will not change.

    Your gender is a social construct. This much, y'all seem to get. Gender is the societal norm/interpretation/expression etc. ad nauseum of ideas about what the sexes are and should be.

    The woman in the last article SO believes the patriarchal hatred that her only value, indeed her entire personality, is based on her vagina.

    I'm dumfounded that some of you are willing to risk your lives and in truth your limbs, but don't understand these simple concepts when they are presented to you.

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  7. Yeah, I agree with Etch. I was just wondering how it had anything to do with DID and such. Thanks letting us know it doesn't.

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  8. That's a cute bit of snark there.

    This is what you call "cutting off your nose to save your face".

    When the link was presented, it
    was included because it linked
    from the DID story as a story about
    someone, who like DID+trans people,
    can't get past the idea that she IS her genitals.

    So, the connection with DID, was that
    the story was linked from a DID page.
    That is to say, THE HEALTH WEBSITE WHICH POSTED THE STORIES, THOUGHT THEY WERE CONNECTED ENOUGH TO LINK THEM.

    It must be awful not to be able to see the forest for the trees. Also, pay attention.
    This was clearly stated when the link to The Vagina Who Would Be Karen, was first posted.

    Really-- you all would sit and argue over a colon vs. semicolon in a post, rather than get to the issue of medical doctors helping young beautiful women who are mentally ill, mutilate themselves.

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  9. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence."

    There are SHITTONS of non-trans people with DID. I could post all those links, but it would take weeks.

    There are also SHITTONS of people whose "DID" is iatrogenic. In other words, their own therapists caused it. So you think they need more therapy??

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  10. "So you think they need more therapy??"

    The point is that they don't need plastic surgery and hormones.

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  11. >>The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence."<<

    No one here said it was. If you read those articles, they refer to medical journals and specific cases. That's not "anecdotal".

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  12. I just can't let this one slide. DID - 'multiple personality disorder' - is imaginary. It doesn't exist. Psychologists created it, and highly suggestible people with other issues can be convinced that they have it, but there are no documented cases of people exhibiting the signs of DID spontaneously. (This differs significantly from GID, which you all think is imaginary/created by the medical community; GID is actually describing a cluster of signs and symptoms that *does* exist.)

    On top of the error of accepting at face value the existence of a fake disorder that's been thoroughly debunked for 30+ years, you're conflating it with the similarly-named 'dissociative disorder,' which actually does exist but is something *entirely* different.

    Now, there is an ethical problem with people who claim to have DID being treated for GID. Specifically, people who claim to have DID are almost by definition highly suggestible. And they have some underlying mental health problem (likely PTSD) that, if they still think they have DID, hasn't been properly identified or treated.

    But none of that has any implications for the people with dissociative disorder, who figure into several of your examples.

    Also, that negligent hack doctor in Britain can go to Hell, but the patient in question had bipolar disorder, not 'DID.'

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  13. @Kay,

    You've just summed up the trans disorder nicely.

    dirt

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  14. Dirt,

    Please do not drag abuse/trauma survivors into your nasty little web. I am not going to get into it about DID/MPD, but one this is clear. Most diagnosed with MPD,DID have been through enough exploitation, hurt, and abuse to add a lifetime. Cut them some slack and leave them alone.

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  15. K, I just read this:

    "I just can't let this one slide. DID - 'multiple personality disorder' - is imaginary. It doesn't exist. Psychologists created it, and highly suggestible people with other issues can be convinced that they have it, but there are no documented cases of people exhibiting the signs of DID spontaneously. (This differs significantly from GID, which you all think is imaginary/created by the medical community; GID is actually describing a cluster of signs and symptoms that *does* exist.)"

    I can't believe that you dismiss the existence of one psychiatric/psychological diagnosis with a wave of the hand because it is "iatrogenic" or "created by psychologists", while actually insisting on the reality of another psychiatric/psychological diagnosis. Both disorders are classified and "created" by medicine and psychology, and, even further, society. It is all a question of discourse. Come on, one can either be anti-psychiatric, or a believer in psychiatry, but not both.

    Another thing that I wanted to mention in connection to this topic: I think that it is highly probable that other personality disordered people can have tendencies that a person of medical profession can easily misinterpret for transgenderism or transsexuality. I could imagine that expecially the borderline personality disorder (because identity problems are part of it) and the histrionic disorder (because it has an aspect of acting out something one doesn't really mean for attention) would be candidate disorders for such misunderstanding.

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  16. I can somewhat agree with everything you said except that last part when you say trans trending is only effecting females.

    We are loosing 1000's of our effeminate and gentle males every year due to societies gender norms that insists that a feminine male is a woman.

    This word indeed cuts both ways.


    Team up your butch friends with the femm men that do not transition.
    I know that they are a bunch of nelly agravations but they are your most logical ally for this cause.

    anouther reader

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  17. this sword cuts both ways***
    sorry missed that typo

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  18. This blog is for females, not males for one. Secondly, there are no huge numbers of gay males transitioning.

    A small number of minority males transition due to hyper masculinity amid white culture, but the majority of males who transition are still middle class, white straight men who fetishize the patriarchal notion of "woman". They believe transition is the ultimate masturbatory high, they all get fooled in the end.

    dirt

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  19. Most diagnosed with MPD,DID have been through enough exploitation, hurt, and abuse to add a lifetime. Cut them some slack and leave them alone.

    If trans were "left alone" to do whatever they wanted, they would cause actual harm to accrue to other people. So no, we can't "leave them alone". They need to stop propagating the ridiculous notion that normal women feel all soft and nurturing and "naturally prefer" to be chained to the kitchen sink all day and the stripper pole all night.

    Every single time a transgendered idiot says that (oh leave trans alone) it just proves the depth of their misogyny. It is men's rights advocates who insist that sexism doesn't exist and that even if some form of "benign" sexism did exist then it couldn't possibly be harmful to real women since real women "naturally like that sort of treatment".

    When you say the exact same things as an MRA, expect to receive the same reaction. The ONLY difference between trans and the MRA's, is that trans are usually careful to never actually voice the logical conclusion of their beliefs.

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  20. "Every single time a transgendered idiot says that (oh leave trans alone) it just proves the depth of their misogyny. It is men's rights advocates who insist that sexism doesn't exist and that even if some form of "benign" sexism did exist then it couldn't possibly be harmful to real women since real women "naturally like that sort of treatment"."

    I am not saying leave trans alone your sorry assed bitch. Leave abuse survivors alone. Are you fucking dense? What the fuck is the matter with you people? Don't you have compassion for anyone whosoever? Or will you go after any and all underdogs there is to get your pathetic strokes.

    Trauma survivors have been raped, abused, lied to, exploited, used for the purposes of profit.. Cut them some fucking slack. What runs in your veins Andrea? Fucking ICE? Damn your pathetic..

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  21. "I am not saying leave trans alone your sorry assed bitch. Leave abuse survivors alone. Are you fucking dense? What the fuck is the matter with you people? "

    Except if some abuse survivors who are DID/MPD are also being misdiagnosed as trans, isn't THAT an issue? Shouldn't trans folk be up in arms at such a misdiagnosis? Shouldn't trans folk be campaigning for BETTER diagnosis?

    Seems yet again, we're just not supposed to talk about it, cos it's supposedly making unfair use of abuse survivors..............

    Just like we're not supposed to talk about confused teenage girls discovering they like girls, and then labelling themselves as trans because as far as they can see, that's the ONLY was they can be normal and heterosexual......

    WHY this trans silence? Because we have trans mantra 101 -- whoever says they are a man/boy, is a man/boy....

    which leaves absolutely no room for any sort of misdiagnosis or mistake........or even a bit of friendly advice from their trans brothers that perhaps they might like to think again, and that trans isn't the only option.

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  22. WHY this trans silence? Because we have trans mantra 101 -- whoever says they are a man/boy, is a man/boy....

    Can you not get off your TRANS OBSESSION for a few minutes and hear what I am trying to say? SHEEESH. MPD/DID dx or not. ABUSE SURVIVORS have been put through hell and back. LEAVE THEM THE FUCK ALONE AND QUIT POSTING LINKS TO WHERE THEY REACH OUT FOR HELP.. YES!! YOU CAN POST THE LINKS.. BUT CUT THEM SOME SLACK. This is not about any part of the LGBT with me. This is about abuse survivors who have been duped by the medical profession, their families, their pastors, their teachers, and now CYBER FUCKING BULLIES LIKE YOURSELF!! Some of those links have not one thing to do with the trans community other than a parallel which was posted. Have you no conscience or couth?

    What the fuck is the matter with you?

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  23. "CYBER FUCKING BULLIES LIKE YOURSELF!! Some of those links have not one thing to do with the trans community other than a parallel which was posted. Have you no conscience or couth?"

    I think someone here needs to calm down and stop shouting. The links, as far as I can see, are to PUBLIC discussion boards and blogs.

    "ABUSE SURVIVORS have been put through hell and back. LEAVE THEM THE FUCK ALONE"

    So, again, we're not allowed to TALK about certain things?

    You can find the same links with a quick google anyway, so trying to demonize Dirt for posting them is pointless...............

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  24. How is so-called "trans-trending" affecting only females? Surely there would be just as much of an increase in recent years of males transitioning to female? If you see ftms as being females who are overcome with self hatred because of how society treats females, then how do you explain males, who generally have more privilege, wanting to become females?

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