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Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Transmen and PRO-Misogyny

The other day I left a post offering any woman who was interested in working towards loving herself a chance with some one on one conversation with me and how I learned to love the woman I am. A few commented that my posts alone have helped them while other comments left were complaining I should not be advocating a "trans cure", that trying to "cure" someone trans may lead to "suicide" and another leaving an address for a complaint service.

"Trans" was not mentioned once in the post I'm speaking of, interesting that some trans would think that females who want help learning to love themselves would be considered "trans"! Especially given that ALL females suffer from internalize misogyny to varying degrees! Last I heard females seeking the never ending state of transition were doing so because they are really male, rather than females who hate themselves for being female???? Sounds contradictory to say the least!

None the less, how sad, pathetic and PURE misery loves company is it that those in the life long transitional state would try and stop a female who wants help with her internalized misogyny?? This female hatred only reinforces what is truly informing transition.

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  1. I would love to talk to you about my feeling because I want to love my woman body more but I fear retribution from the community.

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  2. As a FTM I think it's ridiculous that people would get upset about this. No one is forcing them to have a one-on-one with you, and anyone who would want to talk to you about how to love herself as a female is obviously not confident in the idea of transitioning. To my fellow FTMs: If you truly want to transition and know that it will improve your quality of life, one person on the internet shouldn't stop you from feeling this way. If it does, take a stop back and really think about whether you want to do this. There's a reason counseling is required before you can access hormones or surgery.

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  3. Oops. That should say take a STEP back, up there.

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  4. "but I fear retribution from the community"

    If this is true then omg. What kind of community is this?? They should encourage you and help you at least to try to love your female body.

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  5. I wonder if the FtM community are going to send someone forward (undercover)to talk to Dirt(in an attempt to trip her up in some pathetic scheme) or if they are too scared to as Dirt could talk sense into the person.

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  6. Ha. What a complex conspiracy, genius. I'm pretty sure most ftm's have better things to do with their time than "trip" up a deranged old lady.

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  7. How would teaching a female to try to learn to love herself lead to suicide?

    That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    Dirt hit a nerve. There is a huge lack of resources in regards to helping individuals with gender issues outside of transition etc.

    Damn shame and narrow minded that some FTMs wouldn't support a female seeking to learn to love herself.

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  8. Oh right as if thinking you are actually male/a man isn't deranged.

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  9. I thought and I think most FTM's thought that she was refering to FTM's and not just gilrs with issues. I for one wasnt slating the entire idea I just dont like the thought of a cure.

    I signed up for the service when I thought it was for FTM's. Not to trip her up but I was actually curious about what she would say.

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  10. Please dont delete above comment Dirt. Just wanted to say I was wrong to jump to conclusions.

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  11. Scaredboi, Dont fear retribution. Everyone needs to talk about how they feel and If you feel like you could be happy being female then noone would stop you. Just be strong.

    *hugs*

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  12. Let me get this straight... because I feel happier and more comfortable living as a male automatically classifies me as a misogynist? Isn't one of the primary objectives in life to be happy?
    Those are very strong words you use, bold assumptions that have no credibility given that you don't know me. If you did, you would find someone who loves, values, and respects women more than most people out there. You're focusing too much on the external. Just because someone ventures to change their body doesn't mean they're changing who they are inside--their core. Every day in every part of the world people alter their bodies in an attempt to feel more congruent with their inner sense of self. This does not mean they are sick, damaged or irredeemable human beings. It could be you.
    Frankly, Dirt, if I saw you on the street I would think that you were a man. There is no question about this. You are emphatically opposed to the concept of transition and what you think are women merely posing as men, when you yourself look more male than most of them. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense now does it?
    If this site is geared towards female empowerment and helping FTM's love ourselves, why in God's name would you stoop to posting our pictures and videos, lumping us all together as "misogynistic self-haters" when you don't know a single one of us? You are not treating us as individuals at all, but generalizing at your convenience. You are attempting to humiliate us rather than help us, and are evidently blind to the fact that you're doing it. Either that or you're just a very embittered person. The latter is probably more plausible.
    In a way I feel sorry for you because you're such an outcast in the LGBT community. I've never come across anyone in this community with as closed mind of a mind as yours. You actually have to "like" your own videos on YouTube. I wouldn't be surprised if your limited number of subscribers is in fact you, having created alternate accounts. Sad is what you are, Dirt...

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  13. You believe I "look male" because you ignorantly buy into the gender straight jacket which illustrates why you hate yourself as a female.

    Happiness can never spring from hatred of the self, especially an unhealthy drugged and mutilated self.

    And actually I'm a rockin mood, not "sad" at all.

    dirt

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  14. yes, 6:48, you are very much proving that transsexuals are actually rigid gender-conservatives.

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  15. anon @ 6:48 (and many others)

    what i find interesting (again) is how many of the ftm commenters reference "God" in their comments. everytime i see that, i think wow, way to make it seem like your not buying into the norm-misogynist-christain-right-wing-gender-straight-jacket-BULLSHIT at all there...

    and so many do it. it's just interesting to me.

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  16. Checking in as one of MANY FTM Atheists... you'll never see a reference to god in my posts unless I'm saying how goddamn ridiculous it is for people to be so hung up on how others identify and live their lives... it really makes you all look like you're green with envy...

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  17. Anon@9:24am,

    Yeah its crazy as those nutty suffragettes who couldnt think about anything else except women getting the right to vote even when being arrested and force fed! Those CRAZY Bitches!

    dirt

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  18. what would we be envious of exactly?
    oh, right, your 'male privilege...'

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  19. It seems about half of the trans commenters mention God and about half think they areGod.

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  20. I think the prevailing attitude among trans is that they (and all humanity) are just some kind of unholy meat-machines (with their 'plumbing' and all) that can and should be tweaked to meet society's expectations.

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  21. The prevailing attitude is that YOU have no right to dictate to ME, or anyone else, how to live life. I'm thankful that your attitudes will NEVER be legislated, but still feel for the people who aren't as secure as the rest of us - the ones you venomous women could be pushing over the edge. And no, I don't think I'm god - there's no such thing. I just think it's pathetic that you build yourselves up by tearing others down. And dirt - stop with the smoke & mirrors - this isn't about women's right to vote - my being able to transition doesn't deny any of you your rights as women. Stop the BS. You want rights denied and taken away from people - you aren't fighting FOR equality.

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  22. Anon 6:48

    "when you yourself look more male than most of them. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense now does it?"

    The gender ideology strikes once again. It's always the same. They will never learn.


    "This does not mean they are sick, damaged or irredeemable human beings."

    Dirt never said this.


    "Just because someone ventures to change their body doesn't mean they're changing who they are inside--their core."

    Wow a what a nice fairy tale. You know hormones have an influence on the brain, behaviour and mood? They even can chance the sexual orientation.


    "If this site is geared towards female empowerment and helping FTM's love ourselves"

    This site is for females only. Read Dirts statement about it. What's so hard about reading the blog before complaining??


    "Sad is what you are, Dirt..."

    No Anon it's sad what you are.

    1. deluded : "[...]you yourself look more male[...]"
    2. not able to read the blog
    3. uneducated (?) about the effects of hormones

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  23. 10:21,
    What rights does Dirt want taken away from you?

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  24. "The prevailing attitude is that YOU have no right to dictate to ME, or anyone else, how to live life."

    Nobody dictates you something but YOU dictate how others have to see you. It's strange.


    " And dirt - stop with the smoke & mirrors - this isn't about women's right to vote"

    Oh god. You can't even understand metaphors. Are you 10?


    "You want rights denied and taken away from people"

    What? Show me were dirt stated she want's to take rights from people. I'll bet you are the anon 6:48 who is either to stupid or to lazy to read the blog.

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  25. Funny, I didnt even realize I was at your home with a loaded gun to your head forcing you to read my blog, my apologies.

    And as others have questioned, do tell what "rights" I'm taking away from you?

    dirt

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  26. What do you guys think about the gender nutral preschool in sweeden?

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  27. I really think everyone needs to calm down. If you dont want to read it dont read the blog. Even though I dissagree with the blog, The photos espehaly, she had the right to her opinion and her right to speach. If you dont like what she says dont read it. One blog isnt gunna change the opinions of lesbians everwhere to turn on FtMs. People who read and agree already beleave the way they do. So please ftms out there, if you dont like it dont read it or read into it, stop antaganizing them. Just because they say it doesnt make it tru, you should all know that by now, sticks and stones my friends.

    Im an RN, i know the science, i know what horomones do to the body and i know that ftm and mtf is a matter of science and the brain. You should know it to. So please just stop antaganizing and move on.

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  28. "i know that ftm and mtf is a matter of science and the brain"

    Yeah you've heard it. It has nothing to to with homopobia, opression or the gender ideology. Even if the doctors admit that the majority of gender nonconforming children will be homosexual later in live. Even if there are people who regret their transition. Even if the suicide rate is higher after pre op. Even if there are not much evidences that it's really a matter of science and the brain. All these facts are nothing. [/irony off]

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  29. And may i ask where you went to school?

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  30. It's been stated here repeatedly that the 'male medical machine' shouldn't be allowed to treat transsexuals with surgery/hormones - maybe not in those EXACT words, but you, dirt, have made it clear that you feel medical transition is wrong - and would like to see it go away. The services that are out there for those who seek them are our right to use. You don't like transition, don't transition! I never said you were holding a gun to my head to read your gibberish - I read and comment so that people on the fence have the other side. You encourage and cultivate divisiveness and apathy. And besides, watching the train wreck is rather like eating a potato chip...

    And Joan - no, I am not, in fact, Anon 6:48... I am a lot of things - but stupid isn't one of them.

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  31. Everyone can blow up about this all they want, but you're traveling far from the point. I had a lot of gender issues in the past, and to an extent, still do. If I had went to a gender therapist I probably would not have resolved these issues.. Instead I would have received a prescription for hormones, most likely in all of 20 minutes. Its sad really. I just feel that with all the trending it seems most young females don't get "help" or "therapy" at all... just drugs. No one seems to be willing to help them find an alternative. To help them be happy with themselves. It seems a quick fix(which it truely isn't at all) to send someone down the road of SRS as a 'cure' to their turmoil. Now Dirt is willing to help those females and she is being thrown under a bus for it?! Thats encouraging..

    -K

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  32. Misery loves company. That's why the older "transmen" never worn the young trans-trenders about what they are really in for. That way they have some kind of a group to belong to, which is very important to them.

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  33. Anon@1:03pm, Feel free to point out where I said the MMM should "go away"?

    Should misogyny be removed from it? You betcha! And until that happens should women be less trusting of it? You better fucking believe it!

    dirt

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  34. Yes 12:23 is the self-proclaimed 'educated' ftm (she's posted before) with the absolute worst grasp on the English language I have ever witnessed.

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  35. After reading all these hate-filled comments Im not sure what I want to do. I want to love my body but if people are so hateful over how I feel, why should I share it with anyone?

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  36. You now see the truth Scaredboi...

    if you want help...these women are not the ones to do it.

    These people are wolves in sheeps clothing.

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  37. "if you want help...these women are not the ones to do it."

    These women?? The only one who offers help is Dirt.


    "These people are wolves in sheeps clothing."

    Who exactly?

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  38. Scaredboi - the statement "I want to love my body" says a lot. I realize you're experiencing some dysphoric thoughts/feelings - but I don't think you're trans because of it. I'm an FTM, and I assure you, the majority of both the FTM and lesbian communities would support you in getting to the bottom of why you're struggling, and would WANT you to be able to love yourself just the way you are. Any person who would attack you for wanting to love yourself isn't worth the time of day. I encourage you to share your feelings in a safe, neutral setting (i.e. not from persons biased to either side of this issue, or from a "gender" therapist specializing in starting people on the road to transition, etc) If you want to love the body you are in - you can and should! Best to you :)

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  39. I type on an iphone, way to attack a pointless matter and change the subject.


    An im pretty sure UAA proclaimed my edu. As well as NR and the Medical Boared where im licenced.

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  40. There's a lack of diversity in these studies to justify if it is simply a matter of the brain. A matter of brain sex has always been controversial. What is male behavior? What is female behavior? It will be influenced by society once the child is brought into the world. Our social aspect of sex is gender. Our gender classifications suffocate people causing people like Scaredboi much pain.

    Gender dysphoria is a diagnosis given not to just trans people but anyone who doesn't fit into a traditional gender role. That's a problem.

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  41. Nurses aren't licensed by Medical Boards. You are a fake man AND a fake nurse.

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  42. They have to go through a medical boared to get the licence depending on your state, like alaska. Medical Boards contain nurses and docs. Paramedics have to go through a medical boared to get there licence to. Also have to have a medical director who they work under. Dr Bill Cooper a nurologist is myn. =] so fake, not so
    Much. I also went through school and learned ACLS PALS ITLS and many more fun certs from Dr BJ Coops -a peds specialist who runs the PICU in Prov Hospital in anchorage. I have also studyed under Dr lathrap and Dr carlson at CPGH. But im glad you know so much about nurses and paramedics.

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  43. " I have also studyed under Dr lathrap and Dr carlson at CPGH. But im glad you know so much about nurses and paramedics." Rather worrying if they're not required to be able to spell, since some of those drugs have nasty long names, and probably not a good idea to get them mixed up...............

    "i know that ftm and mtf is a matter of science and the brain"
    Yeah, that's what you've been told, sobut the actual science is fairly dodgy. There are statistically significant differences between male brains and female brains, inasmuch as males tend to be better at mental 3D rotation, but we are talking two overlapping distributions here, so SOME females are better than SOME males, even if there is a statisticaly significant difference in the means of the two distributions. Doesn't mean that girls can't do maths, or become mechanics.........

    As regards brains, we suposedly have differences in size in some tidgy brain regions when looked at in terms of trans/non-trans/male/female, BUT the sample sizes are ridiculously small. What it MEANS (if anything) is another matter, its a hell of a long way from 'has a size of region X that corresponds more closely to male rather than female' to hence has a little voice in their head telling them they are really a man.

    After all, remember that women tend to have smaller brains than men, just because they tend to be smaller. Does it mean they are less smart than men? Does it mean they have some genetic predisposition to like pink and sparkly? Neither, just means that in general, they tend to wear smaller hats........

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  44. No state in the union licenses nurses through a medical board, including Alaska. You are a liar plain and simple.

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  45. I find it hard to see how someone who clearly has so much anger in them could spread anything other than anger.

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