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Friday, May 27, 2011

The "Gender-less Child" a Discussion

I chose not to do a post about the "gender-less child" because it seems to have been posted about to death. But I will open up a discussion for those interested.

Personally I'm fervently against.

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ps I admit that this made me lol 
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15 comments:

  1. Does it matter what gender the child is? No, it's no one's business. Why does it matter?

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  2. Wait... I thought you said you weren't going to post on this topic? Saying you're not going to post about something and then casually mentioning your feelings on the subject... well... erm.

    How is that not posting about something?

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  3. Claiming gender doesn't matter especially on this blog is the silliest thing ever. Everyone who views this blog or comments on this blog cares about gender. They all know why too.

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  4. pleit's pretty pointless. People will find out eventually, either they'll figurit out on their own or the child will figure out his/her physical sex and tell someone. The parents won't be able to keep the child's gender a secret for long.

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  5. Heh, heh. You know how I feel about it, Dirt.

    I'm against the actual real life experiment, but the philosophy behind the experiment and Gould's story is interesting and deserves a second look. I will be writing a post about it later.

    (Challenge accepted, beyotch.)

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  6. (probably not a good idea to use a 'fox news' article, but) it seems pretty silly to me... why not allow and embrace the kid's actual sex while not enforcing any gender stereotypes? i.e. allowing both 'boy' and 'girl' toys, clothes, colors etc. seems to be setting up some kind of future shame in a way, this way

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  7. Anonymous @9:40am

    Agree. Agree. Agree!
    I feel like these parents took their own beliefs too far on a child. Let them embrace who they are and not be shameful of it, but also allow them to be free to choose what types of clothing, toys, ect. they want.

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  8. @ anon 9:40:

    just as an answer to your question, they are keeping it a secret not so they themselves will treat the baby gender nuturally, but so everyone else has to, too. a lot of social conditioning comes from outside of family interaction. they're trying to protect the kid from being gendered by other people based on its biological sex.

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  9. We've all seen the many studies done in the 70's and 80's regarding how adults treat babies/small children based on what sex they THINK the child is regardless of the sex.

    So it makes little difference what the parents do at home. If the child is female and people think its male, thats how they will treat it and visa versa, which in the long term will make for one confused child.

    Personally I dont see whats wrong with being a male or a female, only the limits placed on them and ignoring those limits arent going to make them go away.

    dirt

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  10. I don't think they're going to keep up with that for long; I think they're just trying to get attention and make a point while Storm is a baby.

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  11. It's already been noted that one of the boys hates being called a girl. He keeps trying to get his parents to insist in informing/reinforcing to people that he's a boy.

    So Storm has two brothers, mom, dad, and grandparents, etc. Those are all gendered labels. So you can't raise a genderless child. And who wants to be the s/he, it, they kid? No one uses gender neutral pronouns outside of the queer community (especially offline). They may stop this once Storm gets older but then that just does away with all their "hard work."

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  12. The child will probably have a huge complex over it and think something is really wrong with him/her. Only later in life will the person understand they were part of their psycho parent's experiment. Absolutely nothing good will come of it.

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  13. If the child was born intersex, I could certainly understand this. Intersex surgeries can be damaging to a child/person, especially if the doctors make the wrong pick.

    If the child is NOT intersex, then raise it as the sex it is, but without all the typical sexual markers so enforced in childhood, dolls, war toys, trucks, blue/red for boys, pink/pastels for girls,ect. ect. and all that cutezy gender enforced b.s. After all the baby HAS a mother and a father, and a brother! But I think that should go for all children to not have such gender enforced norms at childbirth, and yet to have reflected a wide array of behaviors, clothes and toys acceptable for either sex....not the narrow ones babies and children are immediately burdened with. We used to call such clothes, especially around my later pre-teen years, unisex clothes....like your typical jeans and tshirts fare...and there are toys that both types of children can use, puzzles, games, stuffed animals, ect.

    Then through the child's interests let it choose what it likes, or what becomes it's favorite clothes/toys....but don't deny it a sex just because of some social experiment!

    On the other hand, I found the Fox 'news' articles insulting and stupid, adding more heat and flames, than intelligent information. I HATE Fox! At least hubby isn't claiming he's a 'pregnant man!'
    -MasterAmazon

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  14. While I applaud the idea behind it, and really do love the idea of protecting a child from gender stereotyping, I just don't see how this will really work without completely confusing the child at some point. Good on them for concerning themselves with overcoming gender roles though.

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