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Monday, April 11, 2011

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning

Be a role model for the young women in your life and help put an end to the tragedy of female self hating that is pressuring females in greater and greater numbers to transition.

Transition will not cure gender/body dysphoria.
Transition will not cure body dysmorphia.
Transition will not cure female self hatred.
Transition will not cure anorexia or other eating disorders.
Transition will not cure depression.
Transition will not cure anger issues.

The only thing transition will do, is help to feed into the misogynistic notions that females have little to no value under patriarchal structures. As long as transition is a possibility, the equality of women, the idea of women as human beings, will continue to evade us no matter the modern age, no matter how hard we fight for it!

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  1. I really wish you wouldn't post people's pictures like this.

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  2. I really wish females would love themselves so I wouldnt have to bring this female self hatred to the forefront.

    dirt

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  3. Anyone can search on youtube for 'ftm intro video' or whatever and find loads of girls doing this- Dirt isn't really doing that much work here that any creep or non-creep can't do.

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  4. Dirt, you forgot to mention in your article : "transition is not transition : you nver cross and reach the other side".

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  5. The only thing transition will do, is help to feed into the misogynistic notions that females have little to no value under patriarchal structures. As long as transition is a possibility, the equality of women, the idea of women as human beings, will continue to evade us no matter the modern age, no matter how hard we fight for it!

    Word.

    Also, for the ones that insist Dirt is doing harm by these posts, no. She is collecting a bunch of self-posted photos. Just like the rather stupid 'freshly charles', a trained nurse giving street-T injections.

    Particularly informative are the before/after shots of what T is actually doing to female bodies. This chemical (and surgical) butchery has to stop.

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  6. I have to say, whatever about the politics of why you're doing it Dirt this isn't fair. The people in the pictures haven't personally done anything to you. You claim you want to help the people in the pictures because they hate themselves and whatever, all you are really doing is putting together something not too far away from the Rolling Stone (Ugandan Tabloid) gay list that is a call towards hate. You can make your point with out implicating kids, the people in the pictures you post are no older than 22/23

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  7. if they're grown 'men' in their 20's they should be able to handle themselves if someone disagrees with them, no?
    and if they're minors, we adults have every right to point out flaws in their adolescent judgement.
    unfortunately so many transition before they even know anything about the world they seem to get stuck in a very immature place... 'how do i look how do i look'

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  8. omg people stop babying these young people. believe it or not if they are over 18, which most are- they can go and get killed in wars, etc. they also are the ones plastering their faces all over the internet documenting their transition for all to see.
    if a person who truely wished harm to these people, i seriously doubt they would come and search out dirts blog to do that. all they have to do is look on youtube.
    if they needed protection, they would be a bit more carefully about advertising themselves all over the internets.

    so let me get this right- they are so young that we should protect them, but at the same time allow them to permanently change themselves? yeah right.

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  9. Dirt says that the brain doesn't fully develop until approximately 21, and therefor people shouldn't be allowed to transition and can't decide that they're trans.....then using that logic, people under 21 shouldn't be allowed to say they're gay, shouldn't be allowed to get married, join the military, smoke, live on their own, or anything else that deals with "mature" and "adult" decisions.

    Just because more and more teens are coming out and transitioning that doesn't make it a trend.

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  10. Dirt, I find it interesting that so many of your posts focus intently on these "trans trenders" who "mutilate" their bodies, but I've never read a single post on your blog about the thousands of women who get breast implants to enhance their womanly curves, improve their self-esteem/body image (among other possible motives). I am curious to know: Do you consider breast implants to be another form of "female body mutilation"? Actually, it would be great if you could do a full post on this subject. Thanks.

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  11. I really suggest that people read this article by Jacob Hale: Consuming The Living, Dis(Re)Membering The Dead In The Butch/Ftm Borderlands.

    Its all about denying each other their sense of authenticy and embodiment and really speaks to having dignities being met for being different as well as dispelling a lot of myths/hate by getting both sides to UNDERSTAND each other.

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  12. anons above-

    research not dirt says that brains don't fully develop until later. in fact the part of the brain that develops fully last is the one that understands full consequence.

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  13. It's actually hilarious that you think you can say what transition is and is not, what it will and will not do- having never experienced it yourself.

    I could have predicted this kind of backlash against ftm's. We have gone from being 2 or 3 high-publicity, tortured individuals, full of self-hate, lonely and depressed, to many, many people, not so full of self-hate and in some cases even joyous and happy, in committed relationship or even successful in our careers. How dare we! How dare we feel free to do what we want with our bodies! Don't we know that our bodies don't belong to us? Turns out that many people are trans! I know, I know, you liked us alot better when we suffered more, so you'll do whatever it takes to make it worse for us, to try and put us back in our places. You liked us isolated, hidden, shamed, feeling inadequate, not taking up any space, scared. In fact you liked us the same way gay people were in the 50's in the U.S.

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  14. ugh
    I can't stand transexualism being lumped in/compared to being gay
    it drives me crazy
    it's MUCH more akin to anorexia, plastic surgery, being dependent on anti-depressants etc.
    i think only because they 'used to be' gay (many of them, though the youngsters don't seem to even bother going through that anymore) that they demand inclusion in what was once the homosexual community.

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  15. "Dirt says that the brain doesn't fully develop until approximately 21"

    actually she says 25; I agree with your logic on the rest of your post

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  16. "I can't stand transexualism being lumped in/compared to being gay
    it drives me crazy"

    Be smarter than that greenbean. Look at patterns in the way groups are treated. What was pompous sympathy towards a minority turns to resentment when a marginalized groups starts having visibility and taking up space. It's scarcity mentality affecting people's ability to look forward. Are we afraid we are taking something from you by being who we are? Look at the history of acceptance and rejection of subgroups within the larger group of sexual minorities. At least *try* to learn from history instead being a mental casualty and a stooge. I'm not saying you have to accept transsexuality, date us, pay for our surgeries, or let us be the executive director of your GLBT group, but at least be critical of why you resent us. The driving force behind it is often a much simpler emotion than you think...

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  17. I'm personally sick of everyone I know adopting male pronouns and male gender identity. They're doing little more than hide behind the only truly privileged members of our society, men. It's revolting and terribly hurtful for those of us who are truly fighting for equality and who are too courageous to hide behind the social standard. I am PROUD to be a woman who defies social standards and constructs, both mentally and physically. Dirt, you are doing a very good thing here, please don't ever give up or give in. Thanks for everything that you do!

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  18. Seeing beautiful girls turn themselves into repulsive monsters, so gross.

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  19. @Widow of Paradise
    Youbmight be proud to be a woman in a female body- but that doesn't mean everyone born in a female body is proud. I'm a transman because I was born in a body I am nowhere near confortable with and because it is MY body I have the right to change it. When I turn 18 I will have top surgery, I will begin to save for a hysto and yes, I'm going to start T soon. I am stuck with this body for the next 70 or 80 years- I am not going to be miserable and pretend I'm happy just because you and everyone else that agrees with dirt think that I am mutilating my body and destructing the feminist movement.

    Fuck you all. MY BODY- MY RIGHT TO DO WITH IT WHAT I WILL NO MATTER HOW DISGUSTING YOU THINK THE RESULTS ARE.

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  20. anon @ 4:22


    "...When I turn 18..."


    Say no more.

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  21. Oh, yes, beause I'm 16- I don't have the right or brains to decide that when I turn 18 I can't do what I want with my own damn body? 14 year olds have babies, 18 year olds go to war and die, 15 year olds get tattoos, but I can't get top surgery...because I'm not mature enough or what? FUCK YOU.

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  22. I suppose I'm a 'mental casualty and a stooge' because I'm not 'advanced' enough to believe that people are 'born in the wrong bodies.' (It really sounds like something people would have believed in the middle ages, not progressive at all...)

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  23. WE ALL THOUGHT WE KNEW EVERYTHING WHEN WE WERE 16.
    WHEN WE GROW UP WE LEARN THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

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  24. I know who I am. Just because I'm 16, means nothing. Everyone is different. everyone matures at different ages... I know that i shouldve been born male. I knew when I was 6, and ten years later, here i am- trans, proud, and mentally, physically, and emotionally prepared to permantly alter my body to be comfortable for the first time in my life.

    I'm me because I'm me- not because you think its a trend.

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  25. "so let me get this right- they are so young that we should protect them, but at the same time allow them to permanently change themselves? yeah right."

    Allow us? What the fuck right do you have to ALLOW us to do shit? So straights should not "ALLOW" Gays to be gay or lesbians to be lesbian either should they? Because that is not "natural". A man is man to have sex and marry a woman. They are not made to be gay!.. pfft PLEASE! Get over yourselves! Trans are just as NATURAL as gays and lesbians! And you dont ALLOW us to do shit. We are free ppl with our own life. We live the way we wish to and goddamn it if we feel we arent in the right body what fucking buisness is it of yours?!

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  26. i got a tattoo when i was 19 ('before you were born')
    would i get that tattoo now?
    no way!

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  27. How do you know you were 'supposed to be born male?'

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  28. Sweetie at 16 you can't be a man. You are too young :)

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  29. In your teens, you don't realise how young you actually still are.

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  30. How do you know you were born in the right body? I never once wanted to have breasts nor a high pitched voice. I wished I could grow a beard and have a flat chest just like my male counterparts now have.

    I can be a man at 16 just like you can be ignorant and judgemental.

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  31. because everybody is in their right body
    there is no other way
    well the other way is delusion and deception

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  32. Fine, I was born in the right body....I'M JUST GOING TO CHANGE IT THE WAY I'D LIKE SO I DON'T DIE MISERABLE.

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  33. this will certainly ensure a happy death for you

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  34. This will ensure a happy life for me.

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  35. of course- it's a guaranteed fix-all

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  36. dirt, did you delete my comment because you couldn't think of a witty response to it? or because I am a trans man who actually wrote a non angry, logical comment and you couldn't think of anyway to make me seem crazy or illogical? In which case I would like to state again that transitioning HAS greatly cured my dysphoria, and that anger issues, depression, and eating disorders have nothing to do with transition, and trans individuals should not even think that transitioning would solve these.

    You continue to make blind statements on which you have no say, because you have not experienced it first hand.

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  37. sooo a flat chest and beard suddenly makes you magically transform into a man?

    good to know?

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  38. 16 year old boys don't even know what it means to be a 'man;' we're supposed to believe that 16 year old (or younger) girls do?

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  39. yep this child on here again displaying so much maturity. clearly they know all! all the cursing and anger, real mature.

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  40. Dirt, do you plan an article about transparenting in the near future: http://thinkindigo.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/professional-photos-maternity/maternity6/ ?

    This photo of a masculinised woman holding in her arm her female partner obviously pregnant from an anonymous donor is the ultimate fraud of FTM transition and a real violence done to the kids when they will see "Dad" is not a male.

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  41. I dont believe I cursed and besides I am being more mature than many of the adults who side with dirt.
    This is a lose-lose situation. I state in a mature way why what dirt does is unjust and that being trans doesnt automatically mean im following a trend and y'all still find a way to say im immature. Thanks.

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  42. It makes me laugh. How some people respond.

    Yes, he is 16. I am too (ftm as well). And yes, he uses swears and insults. No, it doesn't help his argument. But it's far from a unique trait. When you call a ftm female I think it's a horrible insult. Beyond words, I just can't express it. How disgusting I think it is. But you know what? People think the same of using gay as a derogatory word. And yet while I think it's horrible, it doesn't carry the same meaning for me. So I understand what you're saying Dirt, because when you haven't experienced something you can't truly understand. You say these things because you understand sexism. I don't. I am male, and young at that. I've never experienced it. But swears are always understood.
    It's a way to express frustration. When we try to make you understand that you don't feel the same as us, that no female who just wants to be equal understands us, feels the same feelings as us, and you don't understand it's a frustrating feeling. That we will never be equal just as you won't, because someone doesn't understand. And while the situation is different, there are similarities.

    Anyway on to my point. Dismissing someone's valid points just because they swear or are young is ridiculous. In a way, it's the same as just insulting them instead. It's just a way to dismiss their argument without refuting it. And while he was doing the same thing, that doesn't mean you should do it.

    The transgender community is typically lumped in with LGB because our causes are linked. Acceptance, tolerance, equality. For you to get it, or us to get it, but the other not to is therefor betrayal to the very idea of acceptance, tolerance, or equality.
    It is not like anorexia. Anorexia is mental illness. Being on anti-depressants is also usually linked to mental illness. Plastic surgery can be a result of being transgendered, but they are not the same, or alike, either.

    And as for men being the "only truly privileged members of our society"?
    Caucasians.
    Christians.
    Heterosexuals.
    The upper class.
    Hell, even smart people, or tall people, or charismatic people, or attractive people. They all have advantages.

    Women aren't the only people who are discriminated against either.
    African Americans.
    Muslims.
    Lesbians.
    Gays.
    Bisexuals.
    ...
    Young people.


    ...
    Transgenders...

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  43. @16yo anonymous

    As others have said, in your teens you think you know your mind and everything about everything.

    Then you get older and realise you didn't.

    And teens are also prone to getting sucked into fads. Trans is a very popular fad at the moment.

    Most people really do not know themselves until they are 25, seriously. We who are over 25 can say that with absolute certainty. You on the other hand, have not reached that age, and cannot know that it is true. You might think you know what you want now, but you are a teenager.

    What you are wanting to have done to your body is permanent and basically not reversible - it certainly cannot be reversed back to the original configuration.

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  44. Would you like me to wait till I'm fifty to transition just to tell y'all that I'm still trans 34 years later? I know for a fact I don't know everything, I don't want to know everyhing, but there are some things I am sure about: what I want to do after i graduate next month, where i want to move, and that i will transition someday soon because this body is like a cage and i cant be me and happy in this body the way it is.

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  45. Oh my god, what a bunch of over-protective mothers you are. People don't know everything at 16, but you ladies seem to think you know everything now! Can you even hear it? I'm 37 and I'd be horrified to have a Bugs Bunny tattoo that I got when I was 16. However, if I'd have known that transitioning was a possibility when I was 16, I would have been delighted!

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  46. Instead of "spreading the word" about these guys all you do is advertise them. I check out their channels often thanks to your advertisements. :D

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  47. Lol. @8.11 anon. Same here! I had only heard of some of em, now I have more channels to watch. That's the only good thing dirt has done.

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  48. anon @ 7:38

    Have you ever read "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut?

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  49. Dear 16,

    I'm 38 years old and I have no clue who I am, what I want, or who I want to become. Yesterday I loved my body, today I felt uncomfortable in own my skin, tomorrow... You have no idea how much your mind can change in one day through your experiences (let alone 22 years). We are not of our bodies. Just a thought.

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  50. "When you call a ftm female I think it's a horrible insult. Beyond words, I just can't express it. How disgusting I think it is. "

    Why is that? FTMs ARE female. They are female transsexuals. Medical science can't actually turn females into males or vice versa. Reality is not a horrible insult.

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  51. @gallusmag
    But FTM's arent female-identified. Therefor, it's insulting.

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  52. Queer theory = cracked out psuedo-science hippy bullshit.


    I'd also be interested in knowing a percentage of FTM and Queer girls who have sexual abuse or rape in their past. Seems like a common demoninator.

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  53. @Anon April 12, 2011 7:38 PM



    "Women aren't the only people who are discriminated against either.
    African Americans.
    Muslims.
    Lesbians.
    Gays.
    Bisexuals.
    ...
    Young people."

    Choosing to focus on the oppression that women face and relating that to transitioning is not tantemount to saying that women are the only oppressed group or even the 'most oppressed group'

    "And as for men being the "only truly privileged members of our society"?
    Caucasians.
    Christians.
    Heterosexuals.
    The upper class.
    Hell, even smart people, or tall people, or charismatic people, or attractive people. They all have advantages."

    Men are at the top of the social and economic structure of every group. This is true of all groups. Smart people and charismatic people have advantages because of innate ability and not because of externals like their colour or looks and that is a crucial difference and the point of all civil rights struggles. Watch MLK's speech at the March on Washington where he makes this very point.

    "The transgender community is typically lumped in with LGB because our causes are linked. Acceptance, tolerance, equality. For you to get it, or us to get it, but the other not to is therefor betrayal to the very idea of acceptance, tolerance, or equality."

    No our causes are not linked in they way you describe. Transitioning is linked to the LGB community because a fair number of transitioners id'ed as LGB before they decided to transition. And that is the key thing here. Gays and lesbians and bisexuals do not DECIDE to be gay nor do they have to have surgery to be able to fully express their identity.

    Transitioners can not expect accomodation for a condition which at best is a lifestyle choice and at worse a mental illness.

    Transitioning is similar to anorexia because both are symptons of body dysphoria. If you disagree explain why more fully and also explain why you feel your cause is a civil rights issue.

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  54. Dear 16 y/o pottymouthed pussy owner:

    You are a woman. You were born female and you will remain so. Go ahead and let them cut your tits off and take your uterus out and give yourself liver cancer from all the hormones you'll have to be taking so you can wind up some wrinkled, weird looking, balding asexual IT when you're 40. Just don't say we didn't warn you.

    It won't make you a man. It will just make you one of the circus freak whackjobs like Dirt's youtube beauties.

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  55. The FTMs dirt posts on her blog dont put their pictures or videos up to be ridiculed. They put them up to help out FTMs and people who are interested and not being ignorant. Why would someone put pictures of people transitioning on a blog made for people who basicly think ftms are freaks? It is obvious that these guys are going to get ridiculed if put on here. So why continue to do it?

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  56. I just think its funny a bunch of women think they know what it is to be a man

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  57. @Jingle Belle

    WOO! I'M A FREAK! Yeeeah. I don't mind. Honest. It's better than being an ignorant individual who doesn't care that heck, maybe I've been feeling pretty damn suicidal lately. And yeah, I've got a full bottle of oxycodone on hands right now. I could take them all right now and end my life by the end of the night.
    What would you care? You wouldn't. Heck, you'd probably feel accomplished. You'd probably feel proud that you managed to push a teenager to the brink of suicide just because you don't believe that I identify as someone, that the rest of society doesn't seem to think I can identify as.

    If I make it through the night and start testosterone one of these days, liver cancer won't matter to me, do you know why? WE ALL DIE. I'd rather shorten my life by ten or fifteen years to have the possibility to live a happy life because I know I haven't lived a happy life in this body nor the way society sees me. I have never seen myself as a woman- I know for sure I never will.

    I'M A TEENAGE BOY AND PROUD TO HAVE A VAGINA.

    And before anyone thinks that by shit-talking me will honestly change my mind- FUCK YOU. Oh, oops, I'm sixteen and can't curse. MY BAD.

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  58. Dear 16 y/o pottymouthed pussy owner:

    If you keep on with those girlish suicide threats, even the rest of the circus freak whackjobs won't accept you into their pseudo-penis-pullers club.

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  59. @Jingle Belle

    It's quite sad that you find it necessary to verbally attack a teenager.

    Also, "girlish suicide threats"? Yes, because only "girls" talk about suicide or what? That one didn't really make sense.

    Finally, pick up a dictionary every now and then! It'll help for when you verbally attack another teenager, or anyone else, because it's pathetic that you had to reuse the same insults in both comments.

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  60. To all of you making claims that trans men are in fact women, then there is no reason for a lesbian not to date them. You can't claim on one had that a transman is a woman and then claim with the same mouth that a transman can't date a lesbian. Same for the butchest-butch, or even a butch who has had top surgery due to breast cancer. If a lack of breasts STILL means you're a woman, then these transmen are women and shouldn't be barred from dating lesbians any more than butches who conform to some of the most masculine looking hairstyles, clothing, and relationship patterns as most heterosexual couples. Dirt is more passable as a male than most transmen I see and yet she has the audacity to criticize others? If anything she doesn't seem very proud of HER femininity. She might want to examine that before trying to dictate how others lead their lives.

    Butch-Butch makes sense to me, as does Femme-Femme, but Butch-Femme just reeks of heteronormativity and always has for me.

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  61. Anon April 13, 2011 1:36 AM

    By your logic FTMs dating femmes would REEK even more heteronormative than butches/femmes though.

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  62. @Anon 1:36 AM

    There are not women anymore because their secondary sexual characteristics are altered (not their body who is female and not their genetalia) so they should not date lesbians.
    They are not males because the "transition" never makes them reach the other side so they don't have what a straight woman is waiting from a man: a dick and sperm (to have kids together).

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  63. @ Dirt, Dirt I like your blog but I think you mislead people when your write "who is transitioning".

    There is nothing like transition. What those women do is not a transition to male. They will never have a proper functioning male dick.

    They will ever be "stuck" in between...So in most case, all those T shot and surgeries add more trouble than happiness...

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  64. Anon 1:55 - sure, but I tend to keep in mind that not all FTM and female relationships follow a "straight couple" pattern. Just like not all butch-femme pairings are strictly that way either. Fact of the matter is that there are relationships that follow a male-female dynamic, and some that don't. But from my own personal experiences and observations, butch-femme are so immersed in the role playing aspect of their relationship that it's hard to find middle ground.

    Anon 2:02 - you seem to be under the assumption that all straight women want to have children. That in itself is a stereotype and I happen to know a lot of women who don't want their own children, want to adopt, or want absolutely nothing to do with children.

    So, tossing that aside, you're basically claiming that transmen are in fact men and the point of this blog is nothing at all. They're men....so I suppose leave them be.

    And everyone seems to be extremely quiet on the subject of bisexual and pansexual women who fall in love with the human and not their primary or secondary sex characteristics. That's why the trans community is most likely to seek alliance with bisexuals and pansexuals because they are also highly marginalized groups that are frowned upon by gays, lesbians, and straight people alike.

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  65. "I wasn't born into the wrong body, I was born in the wrong society."

    Society has made you to believe that being a girl means that you have to do certain things, adhere to certain rules, and then you grow up and realize that's not the fact. Gender is a journey, of course you won't 'know yourself' right away, at 16, or even at 22. You have to be patient and learn to change our society's views, not yourself.

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  66. Anon 2:31 - you sound kind hearted and have good intentions, but going by that logic, any female who grew up "knowing inside" she's attracted to women should not persue that identity in the hopes that "someday" society's view will change.

    This society rejects homosexuals. Yet homosexuals exist openly. This society rejects transsexuals. Yet they exist because they feel it is "right" for them. Just as it feels "right" for a person to "know in their mind" that they are attracted to the same sex.

    Society can only change when there are people in it who exist openly outside of the dominant paradigm. GLB and T alike.

    Unity. Not division.

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  67. If I believe TMatesFTM channel, all FTM/women relationships follow a very conservative straight pattern with the "guy" having a very 1950's role and the woman also.
    Those pansexual or gay transmales are 3% of FTM mostly in SF, NY and other big cities where there is enough intellectuals to believe in fluidity or pansexuality or queer theory.
    But most FTM, their dreams (still according to TMatesFTM -> look at the topics of this channel) is to have their "lady" and to get engaged then married and to have kids...

    If other partnering models existed in the FTM community, I am sure a collab channel would have been already set up ;)

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  68. "I'M A TEENAGE BOY AND PROUD TO HAVE A VAGINA."

    The best quote ever.
    I'd like to ask real teenage boys what they think of this statement.
    Do any real boys or men ever comment here? I don't think I've even seen a male comment.
    My father and brothers and male friends I've spoken to about this just think it's ludicrous...
    I should ask some of the local toughs here in Jersey City

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  69. "Do any real boys or men ever comment here?"

    Well I have shown some YT channel to my father (he is 66 years old) and he told me those people were as far as malehood as they could me and asked me if "they did their homework before doing all those surgeries and taking T as being male is far more complex than the mafia poseur attitude they have"

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  70. You have the right to live your life as an our and proud lesbian, to peruse happiness and whatever in life it is that makes you content with yourself. Why, then, are you instant on telling other people what they can and cannot do. You don't understand the idea of being Transgender because you haven't taken the time to think about it, observe it, and to give it a chance. Both Body and Gender Dysphoria is very real and affects thousands of people. Not only is there discrimination and hate coming from the 'Hetero' community, but you, posting pictures and your narrow minded, offensive ideas on it is disgusting to me. You make me ashamed to be part of the Lesbian community. You of all people should be open to the ideas of different Gender Identification.

    If those boys were lesbians, they would be lesbians. But they aren't. They are men and boys, both straight and gay, who are, as you have no doubt done in your own life, pursing what makes them happy and whole and feel right.

    You post these pictures because you want to promote 'a healthy self image for women' but all your'e doing is adding to the never ending shit storm these poor boys have to put up with on a daily basis because you aren't 'ok' with the idea.

    Have your opinions, you're entitled to them, but do not ever, ever post a picture of someone that I love and say that they aren't entitled to be who they are and live their live they way they want to live it. Don't you dare tell anyone how to live their life. Don't you dare.

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  71. @2:44

    I'm not exactly sure how that makes sense in regards to the logic that I'm using. Living as a lesbian and refusing to be female are two entirely different things (in my opinion at least). I for one believe that if I refused to be a lesbian, just as some refuse to be female, I'd be falling victim to our heteronormative society, instead of standing up for my identity and lifestyle. So when someone decides to leave behind their female identity, which they may believe has betrayed them, they're not standing up for an identity, they are being consumed by the exact thing that they claim to be revolting against, "societal norms." I know many young women who have opted to living as a man because they see it as the norm, opposed to the role of a female.I'm not saying that there is not such thing as gender fluidity, because I believe such fluidity is important. BUT, it's important because through fluidity we would then be refuting what society has shoved down our throats all our lives. Instead, young women decide to change themselves almost completely to fit inside the normal, which had been denied them their entire life.

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  72. Anonymous said...
    Dirt, do you plan an article about transparenting in the near future: http://thinkindigo.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/professional-photos-maternity/maternity6/ ?

    This photo of a masculinised woman holding in her arm her female partner obviously pregnant from an anonymous donor is the ultimate fraud of FTM transition and a real violence done to the kids when they will see "Dad" is not a male.
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    You could say that about all the babies born within lesbian relationships, or even gay relationships.

    How do their children feel when they grow up and realise that their family is not seen as 'traditional'.

    My children were brought up in a predominantly Butch/femme environment. Where most people saw my partner as 'the man', because of the role she chose to play.

    The picture you portrayed could just so easily have been a butch and her wife, having a child through IVF.

    I cant even believe your going to try and even go there, when I think of the struggles the LGBT community has had, being accepted as good parents.

    In fact your post disgusts me.

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  73. This photo of a masculinised woman holding in her arm her female partner obviously pregnant from an anonymous donor is the ultimate fraud of FTM transition and a real violence done to the kids when they will see "Dad" is not a male.
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    You could say that about all the babies born within lesbian relationships, or even gay relationships.

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    I'm not the original poster, but I do not see how those things compare. In gay or lesbian partnerships nobody's identity is based on deception.

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  74. Some of you keep mentioning GID as a mental health issue, so how do you answer the medical community who are discovering a physical reason for this disorder?

    ie: Consistent brain changes being found, geno variants being discovered (which is being attributed to ftm transexualism).

    My partner has massive levels of testosterone in his blood, naturally. He has always had it all his life. Women do naturally produce some testosterone, but his levels are not normal levels. Yet he is not considered intersexed.

    One of the reasons they take blood tests before you take T is, it can be quite common for trans to have higher than normal levels.

    Funnily enough homosexuality was once thought of as a mental health issue, to be 'cured' in the same vein, as transexuality. You would all be up in arms if people started saying it again.

    Which is why I find it so shocking that its treated so negatively by some in the community.

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  75. I'm an each-to-their-own type a person. But...I'm shocked that a FTM would give double injections of T to his own girlfriend who has no prescription and admits (?) to never taken T before. It was even worse when the gf went on to say that "everyone's doing it," "I'm doing it for the art," "I'm doing this for you." admitting to "a little peer pressure." BUT...I couldn't tell if the gf was referring to taking T in general or being filmed doing it.

    Either way, T shouldn't be some trendy new shit females do and neither should calling yourself trans cuz its cooler than butch. It's a disorder. I see parts of the LGBT community trying to be progressive but walking backwards at the same time! It's starting to resemble the likes of trashy straight teen mags triggering anorexia (another form of BD). Very dangerous territory. I'm not anti-trans either. I'm just concerned by how some people are going about things.

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  76. Discussions/Studies of brain sex will still be controversial as studies have yet to include the brain analysis of FTMs, MTFs, drag queens, drag kings, butches, AGs, femmes, studs, girly girls, butch queens, gay men, lesbians, effeminate men, tom boys, sporty girls, macho men, genderqueer, gender fluid individuals, etc. Once they do (or if they have) I'd be very interested in reading it.

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  77. "when they will see "Dad" is not a male."

    "The picture you portrayed could just so easily have been a butch and her wife, having a child through IVF."

    A butch is not a male. A butch does not try to pass as a 'dad' to the kids.

    The kids are not crazy: they know hat is a male bodied and a female bodied so this transguy on the photo is a fraud. He can't be their dad.

    What will happen if their child is of male genetalia...it will be fun when their child will become a teenager and see his "dad" has no dick or small balls and a tiny 'penis' (meta) or a sausage (phallo).

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  78. Anonymous number 12April 13, 2011 at 5:56 AM

    I find it strange that Dirt is all about living different roles/looks/ways of being as a woman but all these comments say that transmen cant be "real men" as though there is only one way of being a man.

    Perhaps giving houseroom to different roles/looks/ways of being for men would reduce pressure on women to conform as well. Just a thought.

    (Also, I don't know where all these FTM's are in real life. I know a half-dozen MTF people but no FTM's. Maybe they have a secret clubhouse.)

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  79. "I find it strange that Dirt is all about living different roles/looks/ways of being as a woman but all these comments say that transmen cant be "real men" as though there is only one way of being a man.

    Perhaps giving houseroom to different roles/looks/ways of being for men would reduce pressure on women to conform as well. Just a thought."

    The words "woman" and "man" mean adult female and male human. A man is an adult male regardless of role, looks, ways of being. No one is claiming there is "only one way of being a man"- the word man simply refers to a male adult being any way he wants to be.
    What you are proposing is that there is no such thing as biological reality and no such thing as males and females. Pretending biologic sex doesn't exist does nothing to reduce sexist stereotypes.

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  80. "I'd also be interested in knowing a percentage of FTM and Queer girls who have sexual abuse or rape in their past. Seems like a common demoninator."

    I have heard this more times than I can count regarding why women end up being lesbian. So whats your point?

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  81. Anonymous said...
    "when they will see "Dad" is not a male."

    "The picture you portrayed could just so easily have been a butch and her wife, having a child through IVF."

    A butch is not a male. A butch does not try to pass as a 'dad' to the kids.

    The kids are not crazy: they know hat is a male bodied and a female bodied so this transguy on the photo is a fraud. He can't be their dad.

    What will happen if their child is of male genetalia...it will be fun when their child will become a teenager and see his "dad" has no dick or small balls and a tiny 'penis' (meta) or a sausage (phallo).
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    *scoffs* Oh COME ON...seriously???

    Your all for smashing stereotypes and yet you try and shove people into stereotype roles all the time.

    Two mums, Two dads, single mum, single dad, 'traditional' familys. All have one common thing.

    Its called being a parent...you might have heard of it.

    When my kids asked me why they had two mummys, I sat them down and talked to them about it. I educated them. We had open discussions about it, and they always knew they could talk to me or my girlfriend at any time, should they have any concerns.

    My kids have grown up well grounded and sensitive to the people in their environment. They grown up to know, that familys can all be different and people are all different, and all equal.

    The only problems they ever had, wasn't from our family environment, it was from ignorant people, who thought my kids would be gay, because I was gay, or their children.

    Just because a family structure is different doesn't mean its wrong, nor does it make anyone in those family's bad parents.

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  82. Gay parenting is ok as the parents do not lie to their kids. Transparenting is not ok because they lie to the kid. the transparent cannot say he is a male while he obviously has a female body modified by ugly surgeries and hormons. Kids are not crazy: they can recognise a fake.

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  83. I am for gay parenting but totally against transparenting. I think it is child abuse to tell your kid you are a male while you were in fact born female. Plus I suspect some transguys to go for parenting in order to validate once again socially they are male. The kid is just an accessory to pass as males like the binder or the stp or any prosthesis.

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  84. well they may not lie to the kid, but there is a lot of deception involved outside the house
    and little kids are very interested in their own genitalia and that of others- the ideas and anatomy presented to them by a transexual parent could have very confusing and deep lingering effects

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  85. 7:50

    that's an unfair generalization, ftm's can have kids for any number of reasons just like anybody can

    (see i'm not just a meanie)

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  86. just reading through this thread again (rolls eyes) shows the exact same argument from young ftms. they seem to always think that their 'feelings' on their not being female are oh so unique. sorry 'guys' they simply are not. if you would take the time to read the comment threads on this blog instead of just coming here to tell us to fuck off, etc, and accuse dirt of being a trans herself- maybe you would see that most of the butch lesbians who post here had your exact same feelings when they were your age.
    but of course since you are still so young you are not able to comprehend that there have been others just like you, that grew up and matured and realised that the world is the fucked up ones- not you and how you choose to identify.
    you are 16 and your views on what is female and what is male is so in synch to what this fucked up world is telling you.
    guess what! yes there are many women just like dirt and myself that can pass as men all of the time- AND without hormones, AND without surgeries.
    AND we get to try and help the world see that we in fact can be women and still live our lives how we want to. this is the only way that society will change.

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  87. I've seen a child of FTMs have difficulty in school for insisting that his father gave birth to him. (They thought he was learning disabled or delusional).

    I've seen the son of an FTM become terrified that he would need multiple painful disfiguring surgeries to make his penis larger (because he saw his "dad" whose "penis" was smaller than his going through it.)

    Lying to kids or forcing them to keep parents "in the closet" (forcing the kid to lie) is not healthy.

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  88. Hi Dirt,

    I find your point of view towards, mostly against, trans people to be very harsh and ignorant. Although I find you a lost cause altogether, I would like to point out some issues with your arguement. (I'm going to be as polite as possible in hopes that you do not delete this post, though I have no doubt that you will.)

    You are a self identified "butch" lesbian, correct? You are not the "social norm" nor would you necessarily want to be... why? It is because you are true to how you feel as a person. Many disagree with your lifestyle *choices* and they could go so far as to call you an abomination... I mean, if you came across a blog condemning homosexuals would you not be offended? These people do not understand being homosexual and choose to take the word of a book over the word of a person. These people feel they are doing the right thing, and helping people. Does this seem helpful to you?
    I wouldn't judge you based on who you sleep with just as I wouldn't judge you for being a radical feminist. Yes, women do not have equal rights yet, I agree with you. However, how do you tie trans people to female inequality? Actually I do see what you are saying, and in my mind, it makes no sense. Usually kids don't think much of their gender until puberty, but many know how they feel on the inside. I have known since I was the age of 5 that I was a boy, and I certainly was not aware of male priviledge at the time... How would you like it if you lived in Iran and were forced into a sex change because of your sexuality? Yes, they do that there. In their religion same sex partners are wrong in the eyes of God, so they fix this by making say, a women into a man. Again, is this helpful?

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a female in my mind and every female or male that is content with their body should love themselves for who they are as a person. What is in between the ears is what matters. As a trans person I understand this better than most, and I treat men and women the exact same by the way.

    You may not agree, but being born trans is just about as hard as it gets, Dirt. It's about being born into a body that you do not identify with in any way at all. It is not about female/male-self hatred, and there is no outside pressure to transition. The medical procedures some trans people undergo are unfathomable to you because you don't know how it feels to have inner conflict based on gender. You want to call it a disorder, well, I'm going to call it a birth defect to appease you. Trans people, especially in the case of FTMs, are born with a brain that is identical to that of the opposite sex. I am going to provide you with a medical study that has confirmed this statement... Hopefully this will become wide-spread so that everyone understands it's not a choice.

    http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2011/01/white-matter-and-transsexual.html

    Understand this if you can take anything positive away from what I have said. No one has the right to judge anyone for any reason. You are not perfect yourself, and considering, should not feel the need to judge others. I know that you feel like you're doing the right thing, and you're probably getting off on all the drama surrounding this, but you're wrong. Not because of your beliefs, because of the way that you present them. Your whole blog is full of hatred and half truths.

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  89. wow above poster has really drank the koolaid.
    all of your points have been said many times before. you can not get us to agree.
    i felt like i was a boy at age 5 as well. but your lying to yourself when you say that gender doesn't really matter much until puberty. dead wrong there.
    i also felt like i was a boy at age 8 & 13 & 17 & 22 & 26.
    you need to take a good inner look at yourself and your ideal behind what it "feels like to be a boy".
    it "feels" that way based on our gendered world.
    take away that gendered influenced world- and we are all born women, not wanting to be treated as this world typically treats women.
    the solve to this is not transition. it is not to "fix" your body.
    dysphoria is not something that just naturally exists. it is completely influenced by society.

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  90. I don't believe anyone is "born with the brain of the opposite sex." That's just BS.

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  91. I don't believe in "I feel male" but I do believe in "I envy male and I want to have their games, sports, hobbies, clothes, attitudes..."

    like in

    "I am too sissy to be a strong female"

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  92. Anonymous said...
    Gay parenting is ok as the parents do not lie to their kids. Transparenting is not ok because they lie to the kid. the transparent cannot say he is a male while he obviously has a female body modified by ugly surgeries and hormons. Kids are not crazy: they can recognise a fake.
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    Me: Your making a generalised comment, you cant possibly base that on fact.

    Who says they are going to lie to their child?
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    I am for gay parenting but totally against transparenting. I think it is child abuse to tell your kid you are a male while you were in fact born female. Plus I suspect some transguys to go for parenting in order to validate once again socially they are male. The kid is just an accessory to pass as males like the binder or the stp or any prosthesis.

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    ME: Child abuse? Again...a very unfair generalised comment *rolls eyes* I cant believe you said child abuse.

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    GallusMag said...
    I've seen a child of FTMs have difficulty in school for insisting that his father gave birth to him. (They thought he was learning disabled or delusional).

    I've seen the son of an FTM become terrified that he would need multiple painful disfiguring surgeries to make his penis larger (because he saw his "dad" whose "penis" was smaller than his going through it.)

    Lying to kids or forcing them to keep parents "in the closet" (forcing the kid to lie) is not healthy.

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    You haven't seen anything you just watched a biography about a them on TV. The point you made happened because of a misunderstanding between the two dads and the school, which was later cleared up. One of the sons had Aspergers and innocently talked about his two dads, in class. The child was very aware of his parent situation but because he had aspergers he just assumed the school knew. The parents hadnt told the school because they were afraid people would discriminate against them.

    My son was bullied to the point of suicide, because I was gay, the kids at his school made his life a living hell. He was eventually diagnosed with PTSD because of it. I nearly had to have him hospitalised because he self harmed to a severe degree, he is covered in deep scars, because of these kids.

    Should I have remained in the closet to protect him, or even perhaps never had him?

    Was me being a gay parent wrong, was I being irresponsible for wanting to have children?

    My sisters kids get badly bullied because her son has ADHD, and she is a single parent, he gets called a bastard all the time, and made fun of because he has no dad living at home.

    This isnt about us the parents, no matter what parenting dynamic we are in, whether its lesbian parents, gay parents, straight single parents, traditional parents.

    Its about how society treat us and our children. Its that that needs to change.

    You cant possibly say they are going to be bad parents.

    Because no matter how much we love and adore, and parent our children well, they are still at the mercy of the society in which they live in, and all you can do about that is educate people.

    I dont believe for one second that trans parents have kids as trophys , I find that a ridiculous comment to make.

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  93. I find it funny how many lesbians who state they won't date a transman because transmen identify as male or straight women wont date transmen because transmen are "mutilated" act like theyre speaking for the whole group.

    Just the same, Dirt tries to show that all transmen are mutilated and most regret transition- she acts like she's trying to say thats how every transman looks and feels.

    Finally, if you don't want to date a transman, simple solution- don't. No one is forcing you to date or have sexual relations with a transguy, so what's the point of saying "i'm not gettin' with that mutilated freak" and phrases alike? Just cause you don't want to date him, doesn't mean everyone else doesnt want to as well.

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  94. There you go attacking me instead of my argument.

    Why is my opinion any less valid than yours is?

    You say you felt like a boy... Is it because you liked playing with action figures? It's not as simple as cross gender behaviour. YOU are a woman that wants to break free of the current "standards". You are not happy with how women are depicted or treated and you likely feel that women can be as masculine as a man, and should be able to act as such, right?

    There is nothing wrong with that, and I do agree, people shouldn't be placed in boxes. A woman can act/dress/BE whoever she wants. My male gender has nothing to do with being masculine or wanting to be a certain way. It has nothing to do with not liking the clothes that are designed for women. I have never been a "butch" and have never identified as a lesbian (though I date women only.) All of these things have nothing to do with how people see ME. Being trans is solely due to how I see myself as a person.

    My brain, and any other trans person's brain, is different. It is not wired like a women's or a man's and is not a result of societies "teachings". It is biologically based and that has been proven, my friend. Whether you are a fan or not, we aren't going anywhere, so you might as well try to look past the differences and find some similarities. I am proud of who I am. Are you proud of yourself?

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  95. again, if these brain-wiring (wait, i thought it was 'white matter') studies were expanded to include women and men of greatly varying gender-expression we might take them seriously

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  96. um i just watched that documentary about the 'two dads'-
    i find it interesting that in the begining of video 6 of 8 the dad refuses to let hiz son get the haircut he wishes. stating "i don't get the whole men with long hair thing"-
    so very telling.
    so sad how they are trying to make their sons be the boys they never were, and never will be.

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  97. "...I felt/feel like a boy..."


    You are not ever helping your case by saying this, just to put that out there.

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  98. "My brain, and any other trans person's brain, is different"

    You are bright: your brain is pretty fucked up and brainwashed by queer theories whose sole aims were to give job positions at Uni to BDSM straight white males at the expenses of lesbian studies job positions which were erased ;) So is the ambition of some well paid scholars worth mutilating your body to validate their income?

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  99. Gay parenting is great. Transparenting a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their FTM fake dad ego. Someone who is not able to love herself cannot love and raise a child. Gay people are stable but trans people have a mental disease. Do you accept people with a mental disease to raise kids? No thanks. The kids will be lot happier with a couple of lesbian parents or gay parents than with a grosteque dad who can't relate to the physical feeling of being born male.

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  100. @11.54 anon
    Oh, hush. Out of every ignorant thing I have ever read on here, that is beyond the most ignorant, thoughtless, unfactual thing.

    You make it seem like transfolk don't know the concept of love.

    You, your thoughts and your statement were grotesque.

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  101. Anonymous said...
    Gay parenting is great. Transparenting a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their FTM fake dad ego. Someone who is not able to love herself cannot love and raise a child. Gay people are stable but trans people have a mental disease. Do you accept people with a mental disease to raise kids? No thanks. The kids will be lot happier with a couple of lesbian parents or gay parents than with a grosteque dad who can't relate to the physical feeling of being born male.
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    What a load of rubbish.

    My mum didn't love herself, she struggled with herself for years. It wasn't until her late 40's that she started to be comfortable in her own skin.

    Yet she loved me, and gave me everything she possibly could give me, both emotionally and physically. She is still a great parent, and brilliant grandmother to my kids. I feel totally blessed to have her. She was a very open parent with me and we always talked about feelings both negative and positive. FYI she is straight and married.

    Gay people are not always stable, generalising again.

    It wasnt that long ago that people were up in arms about gay parenting, stating that we were some sort of sexual devients and would sexually abuse our children. It was also said that our children could not be brought up in same sex relationships without having an adverse effect on our childrens sexuality.

    Your reacting no differently and I find that disgusting!

    There are just as many bad parents who are gay, lesbian, straight etc etc

    You assume they are a grotesque, male, and that is also not the case either. I haven't met one grotesque FTM. This speaks more of your personal judgement and discrimination, rather than based on any true fact.

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  102. yeah but what about this couple that won't let their sons be the way they want to be? they are in fact forcing them to adhere to sterotypical males roles- just like they strive to be.

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  103. I have to say this. I have been reading your blogg for some time now, and from what i can see most of what's written here now i just trash-talk or just the same thing reapeted over and over again.

    You should clean up here Dirt.

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  104. @12.15 anon
    Oh no! One example of bad (trans)parenting, and bam! All transfolks whom are parents must be exactly like them. -_-

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  105. same story diff personApril 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    yep same arguements on both sides.

    the only change is the ever revolving door of young girls hating themselves as they are naturally and transitioning to be the priviledged male.

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  106. anon at 12:22

    can you not read? i was refering to that particular couple. duh.
    i don't see where i said anything about any others....

    open your eyes.

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  107. @12.25
    The door continues to relove because the opposing side won't recogonize transmen, regardless of age, as who they identify.

    Until you, and people alike, start to accept transguys as guys- the door will never stop revolving and us transguys won't stop repeating ourselves.

    We shouldn't have to prove we're trans using scientific proof- lesbians don't have to, why should I?

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  108. It seems my nose starts where yours begins... We do not share the same experiences nor do we understand this in the same way.

    The link to the study is research that backs MY argument. Where are your facts? Oh wait, you don't have any. This site is full of hate and slander with nothing to back it up. All I see are excuses to back up discrimination...

    I feel very sorry for anyone that supports Dirt and her blog and would just like to say that hate is a pathology of fear. If you didn't say such monsterous things about trans people you wouldn't have to worry about backlash. And I'm NOT agreeing with violence/threats, nor am I making an excuse for it. I'm just saying you guys are putting yourselves in with the KKK here. You hate trans people on the grounds that you hate what we are... I have not read one nice thing regarding trans people on this site. We are no lesser a person than anyone else, and personally, I couldn't give a shit about male priveledge. Everyone is equal in my eyes.

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  109. same story diff verse.

    all revolves around self.
    victim victim victim

    it's amazing how much like sterotypical women SOME tranz are!

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  110. that link doesn't 'prove' anything.
    don't you think it could be possible that any form of masculine identified/presenting females could have that same white matter?
    ever thought about that?
    ever thought that maybe our socialization could have any effects on our brain matter?
    ever thought that all people who have body dsyphoria could have that white matter?
    'science' has been wrong many times before.

    lets see them compare a butch lesbians brain to a pre-op ftms and see those massive difference.

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  111. the fact that all these supposed happy finally transitioners prove all too much coming over and over to this site.
    why come here? why continually try to prove yourself?
    you care too much what others think?

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  112. @12.42
    I'm here because Dirt is trying to give transfolk a bad name and if people come across this site but are uneducated of transfolk or want to learn about transfolk- they'll get the wrong notation and soon there will be ten or twenty more Dirts around spreading the negative word of transfolk and then transfolk will have a harder time fighting for equal rights.

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  113. Who cares, if they want to change their bodies so be it. Let's focus on something REAL. It's 2011 we live in an age and time of technology they are cloning living beings for goodness sake and you don't think that the benefits/repercussions of this technological age would not come to the LGBT community....Please.. I don't see a trend I see technology for good or bad working it's wonders like everything else, for the people that choose to use it.

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  114. anon @ 12:48-

    not sure if you live in a small town or not- or if you are the only trans person you know, as to why you feel like you have to educate us on trans issues.

    but i can assure you, dirt- and the others that regularly post- including myself- on thissite have vast experience with trans people in real life. you would know this if you read all posts/comments.
    hell it's part of the reason we feel this way.

    believe it or not- the experience of growing up feeling male, etc - is not unique to transexuals only.

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  115. I can only speak for my own experience. But I can tell you this much- that the only difference in me and the majority of the stories I hear both in real life and those on this blog- is labels and transition or not.
    Basically if I remove my self-identified butch lesbian label, and you remove your FTM/trans label, that we are more alike than different.

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  116. there's a big difference in the personalities of those who simply are what they are and those who rely on outside influences to maintain the idea of what they only *think* they are

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  117. Butches be trippin'.

    Do you also hate people who get mastectomies and breast reductions for reasons of physical health?

    Do you think some dude who steps on a landmine and has to get reconstruction surgery should not be considered a "real" man?

    Since the medical community supports transition because it works (reduces dysphoria) and conversion therapy doesn't, none of your arguments actually hold any water.

    For those of you who say FTMs transition to conform to heteronormative stereotypes: I know one of the dudes pictured here. He is a femme gay guy.

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  118. First Anna, filtering the medical drugging and mutilation through a feminist ethic in an attempt to bring restore some sanity to insanity, isnt "hate".

    Second, there is absolutely no verifiable proof that transition "cures" anything let alone gender/body dysphoria. In fact there are hundreds of videos by female transitioners claiming the just the contrary.

    Third, biological females, regardless of any cosmetic changes, who sexually desire males, are heterosexuals.

    And fourth, "Femmes" are female lesbians who carry their femininity in a femme manner and who primarily partner with Butch lesbians.

    dirt

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  119. Anna

    Physical health is vastly different from mental health.

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  120. @dirt
    Femme can be used to describe both men and women (and anything between). It's not limited to just lesbian women.
    You're going to try to argue that, but it's fact, so such is life.

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  121. haha there are no woman on the internet their all barefoot in the kitchen popping out babies. Come on now no one cares what you all think especially you Dirt you're just hostile cause you need to get laid I know I get bitchy too when I'm not getting any.

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  122. Fuck you, stop posting photos that aren't yours!!!!!!!!

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  123. http://miniar.tumblr.com/post/4381538659/hypocrisy-of-the-anti-trans-feminism

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  124. What is more loaded with hypocrisy than transexualism?

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  125. "No our causes are not linked in they way you describe. Transitioning is linked to the LGB community because a fair number of transitioners id'ed as LGB before they decided to transition. And that is the key thing here. Gays and lesbians and bisexuals do not DECIDE to be gay nor do they have to have surgery to be able to fully express their identity."

    Uh huh... Let me first clarify that I fully support the LGB community and their rights. But this argument is just full of flaws and I feel this is a valid way to express that belief.


    No our causes are not linked in they way you describe.
    Homosexuality is linked to the T community because a fair number of homosexuals are pressured to become instead of coming out of the closet.And that is the key thing here. Trans do not DECIDE to be trans.

    I do not actually have a response to that last part, but just let me say to generalize like that is arrogant at best and dangerous at worst. Not all ftms get surgery. Because those that due are the only ones mentioned in regards to surgery, you seem to assume they are all that exist.

    "Transitioners can not expect accomodation for a condition which at best is a lifestyle choice and at worse a mental illness."

    Again.

    Homosexuals can not expect accommodation for a condition which at best is a lifestyle choice and at worse a mental illness.


    "They will ever be "stuck" in between...So in most case, all those T shot and surgeries add more trouble than happiness..."

    It's better to be stuck and closer to your goal. And no, t and surgery does not add trouble. Complications, maybe. But it's worth it. The benefit far outweighs the risks. And I would also like to mention the risks are greatly exaggerated on this blog. I read a post about it, and I can say from my own research prior to taking T (which most people will do for any medication or not do for any medication, but nothing in between) and the personal effects it's had on me that some of the "facts" are either irrelevant or outweighed by the benefit. And then the vast majority are misleading, exaggerated, or completely false.

    "Gay parenting is great. Transparenting a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their FTM fake dad ego. Someone who is not able to love herself cannot love and raise a child. Gay people are stable but trans people have a mental disease."

    One last time.

    Trans parenting is great. Gay parenting is a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their fake dads or moms. Someone who is not able to love their proper mate cannot hope to be a parent. Trans people are stable but gay people have a mental disease.

    "Do you accept people with a mental disease to raise kids? No thanks."

    Mental disease is rampant in my family. My mother has general anxiety disorder and never learned to deal with it. It got much worse when I came along and she saw my struggles in the same things. She fought hard. She wanted to keep me from struggling, to help me and herself. And she did. She was a terrific parent even in the face of some very hard circumstances. She supported me and provided for me and loved me. She was an amazing parent. And she did it all with a mental illness.

    "The kids will be lot happier with a couple of lesbian parents or gay parents than with a grosteque dad who can't relate to the physical feeling of being born male."

    Lesbians can't relate to being male. What about their male children?


    On the other side though, the studies on brains that support our arguments are rather flimsy. Everyone has a different brain structure and just because they have a more male brain does not mean they are male. The truth is that it's very common in transgenders, but it's a small supporting fact, not any argument in and of itself.

    The medical community just doesn't have any conclusive answers yet.

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  126. Woman drilling her daughter to call her "Daddy" and posts it on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HO7-nmOlI4

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  127. You don't have to have a dick to be a daddy to a child.

    A lesbian couple that I am friends with have 3 kids and all three call the butch lesbian, daddy.

    I have two step sons that think of me as their step dad and tell their friends I am their step dad. Before I met my fiancee', she brought up the kids not to judge people by their appearance, sexuality, race, religion, etc...Our youngest is 14 and he loves me to death! Our oldest is 19 and he too loves me to death. They are both awesome kids! They have been brought up very well. They are the sweetest kids who respects people for who and what they are.

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  128. Half of all people who get tatoos later regret it. And that's just a design on the skin. It's really not much of a stretch from tat-regret to any other form of body modification-regret.

    "Trans parenting is great. Gay parenting is a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their fake dads or moms. Someone who is not able to love their proper mate cannot hope to be a parent. Trans people are stable but gay people have a mental disease."


    Holy crap. Hate much? And then you demand inclusion in a group you hate?

    Too bad we can't get some actual numbers on how many are choosing to transition, per various years. If there really are more kids choosing to transition then that will most likely cause a medical backlash in a few years (if not sooner). Doctors take a dim view of any disorder which increases in popularity every year because it's much more likely to indicate a socially transmitted fad than a genuine medical disorder. Some of them are already questioning that now.

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  129. So basically what you're all saying is that YOU'RE all trending too!

    Wow! Impressive!

    I mean, really, because, I mean...most of the people complaining here seem old enough to be in my mother's generation, right?

    So you probably came out when you were in college...somewhere between the late sixties and the early nineties...

    Which is when the LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF HOMOSEXUALS CAME FORWARD AS BEING HOMOSEXUAL, you know? Because it was...safer. There were more rights in America. People weren't being lynched quite as much. Women weren't being gangraped to cure their being a lesbian. Men weren't being beaten to death by cops for going to a club to pick up a date.

    So, now it's the 2010s. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS after the definition of "homosexual" came into existence, about. ONE HUNDRED YEARS, about, since the first successful transsexual surgeries in Europe.

    We're they trending too? These men who took hormones? Had no history of depression? Psychosis? Eating disorder? Any mental illness except for GENDER IDENTITY DYSPHORIA, or transsexualism?

    Apparently. Apparently they're trending just as hard as every homosexual that has ever come out. Who has ever stood in front of their parents and told them they love the person they love. Who has ever felt the way they felt.

    It's not that there are any MORE homos, or trans, than there were twenty, or forty, or sixty, or eighty, or a hundred, or two hundred, or five hundred, or a thousand years ago. It's that there we aren't LOCKING PEOPLE UP AND ELECTROCUTING THEM FOR IT ANYMORE.

    But hey, by all means. If you're going to lock me up and electrocute me until I want to wear dresses again...that means you've got to do it to yourself, too.

    That's how they used to fix Lesbians too.

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  130. i thought you didnt hate lol boy did you lie i think you just cant deal with yourself being trans just dont want to admit it... you do promote hate and this can end up being a dangerous place you are putting peoples lives in danger and you dont even care.. you care about something that you dont even have the choice to make that is our own choice and you need to let it go and not give a damn. we have a choice to cause you are the L we are the T and you just need to bite your toung and shut your mouth that would be the best for all of us. we are not going to stand idioly by why you cause problems for everyone and even les dont all think how you do. you just need to get over yourself and you do you and us do us no problems will be had then if you dont know from experience you dont need to open your mouth at all no room to talk especially of ignorance and all we joined this community LBGT les bi gay trans to get away from the poeple that give hate i know you know how it feels to be hated we really dont need it in our own community... it is simply uncalled for we all came to the community for support and for non judgement and you just blew both of those outta the water. plus no one is holding a gun to our head telling us you have to transition that is our choice so that we can live a better life and be who we truly are btw i dont want dick in my mouth dont hate women dont wanna rape anyone and i sure as hell am not angry uh you my friend need some meds or a doc. later

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  131. @Anon April 13, 2011 8:11 PM

    Your post really does not address my points....but thank for trying.

    If this is the best the trans community can do then there is not alot to say.

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  132. "If you're going to lock me up and electrocute me until I want to wear dresses again...that means you've got to do it to yourself, too.

    That's how they used to fix Lesbians too."

    What the hell are you on about? Gays and Lesbians have always supported men in dresses and women in pants. They just don't claim that makes men female or women male. They don't pretend it changes someone's sex with magic pixie speshul snowflake dust.
    Unlike Trans who believe certain behaviors and characteristics are hard wired into (scientifically unproven) "gendered brains". You've got a religion going there, a magic gender religion where men in dresses "prove" biology doesn't exist. Good luck with that. You're gonna need it. Cause no one's buying.

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  133. "Trans parenting is great. Gay parenting is a joke. Kids do not deserve to be the toys of their fake dads or moms. Someone who is not able to love their proper mate cannot hope to be a parent. Trans people are stable but gay people have a mental disease."


    Holy crap. Hate much? And then you demand inclusion in a group you hate?

    I'm pretty sure that was meant to be sarcasm.

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  134. Unlike Trans who believe certain behaviors and characteristics are hard wired into (scientifically unproven) "gendered brains".

    You can't generalize like that. Not all trans people believe that.

    Also trans is an adjective not a noun so IDK why half the commenters here insist on using it that way.

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  135. @GallusMag

    You know, I could just bring up the scientific evidence I have from published articles and journals and documentaries on gendered brain sex, but I have a feeling you'd just ignore it.

    No, wearing pants doesn't make you a guy.

    But you know what does? The same thing that makes every lesbian a lesbian, and every queen a queen, and every bisexual a bisexual: the fact that they're a human being. And human beings have these funny things called brains, and brains have these funny things called hormones, and hormones have a funny way of not always lining up with biological sex.

    But, whoops, I bet you tell INTERSEX people that they can't have corrective surgery to correct an ACCIDENT OF BIRTH, too, don't you?

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  136. Well, Intersex has a biological basis to it. There have always been Intersexed people, and probably always will be. It kind of makes me sick how some trans people try and use them for their wishy-washy trans justifications, when you can't compare Intersexed with trans.

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  137. And what proven biological basis is there to homosexuality?

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  138. We can observe that homosexuality occurs across all species, naturally, with no drugs and surgeries. Homosexuality does not require others to pretend we are straight.

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  139. I don't pretend to be anything. I am a male and that's all there is to it. I don't try to make people believe I am a male by any means. I don't correct people if they were to perceive me as a female. That hasn't happened in years though and I have only been on T for a year and 9 months as of today. I don't tell no one how to perceive me. I'm a male and everyone sees me as just that. I don't lie to no one!

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  140. you're a female on testosterone. not male. so you are lying right now.

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  141. " We can observe that homosexuality occurs across all species, naturally, with no drugs and surgeries. Homosexuality does not require others to pretend we are straight."

    I was trans all of my life. I was diagnosed at 18 and didn't go on T until July 13, 2009 and I'm 39 now.
    I'm not pretending anything.

    Yeah, that's why so many young girls think it's cool to be a lesbian now. It's a trend as you say being trans is a trend. Young guys are doing it too! It's a trend to be gay right now and has been for years. Why do you think there are so many gay and lesbian groups in junior high and high schools? Because everyone is doing it!!!!

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  142. We can observe that homosexuality occurs across all species, naturally, with no drugs and surgeries. Homosexuality does not require others to pretend we are straight.

    Drugs and surgeries do not make transsexuality occur. Those are ways of treating some individuals transsexuality.

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  143. Young gays and lesbians are taking drugs that make them look straight???

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  144. Young gays and lesbians are taking drugs that make them look straight???

    Lol Faulty arguments because you know that you can show no scientific proof that homosexuality is completely biological.

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  145. Drugs and surgeries are the difference between a transsexual and a guy with a "I'm a male lesbian" t-shirt.

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  146. you're a female on testosterone. not male. so you are lying right now.

    Yeah I am on testosterone but who am I lying to? I know who and what I am. I don't need anyone to validate who and what I am. A penis doesn't make you a man as I know plenty of men who have a penis who are not real men. Compared to some I am more man than they will ever be. Especially as to how they treat their girlfriends and kids.

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  147. how are men with a penis not "real" men?

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  148. Real men don't beat the shit out of their girlfriends or their kids!!!! They treat them with respect and love them not abuse them! Real men don't rape their girlfriends 13 year old daughter! A straight female friend just had her boyfriend thrown in jail for raping her 13 year old daughter and it's been happening for 2 years. He was also beating the crap out of her. Men like that are pussies! They give men a bad name as not all men are scumbags as they are! I hate to see that damn crap! It pisses me off royally!

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  149. Men are adult males. Regardless of how they live their lives or what they do. Pussy is a term for female genitals. Why do you say males are not real men and are instead female genitals? Do you mean that literally? Or do you mean that female genitals are the worst thing someone can be called.

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  150. ...and you never called someone a pussy before....or even thought it...The thought never crossed your mind before? Yeah freaking right!!!

    I don't need you or anybody else to validate who and what I am as I am loved by my fiancee', step-son's, family, and friends. I have never felt so secure and happy in my entire life as I am right now. My life couldn't get any better!!!!

    I am so glad that my kids were raised right and not to judge people for who and what they are. They will grow up to be awesome adults. They wouldn't even judge you and your "opinions" about me or any other transsexual. They are just that, your opinions, nothing more nothing less.

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  151. To compare the simple fact of having a transsexual parent to child abuse PISSES ME OFF.

    Anyone who would make that comparison has never been stared down by an angry father with a weapon in his hand that's aimed at your head.

    BTW, bonus points to the person who called GallusMag out on lying about having personally "seen" things that she saw in a movie. I guess she's a little bit phenomenologically challenged.

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  152. "A penis doesn't make you a man as I know plenty of men who have a penis who are not real men. "

    Ok apparently in our small binary gendered mind, you think malehood=certain humain qualities and so you define malehood by saying this person is male because this person has certain human qualities that culturally were back in the 1950's devoted to male because of their dominant role in the society back then.

    I have two good news for you:
    1/ The world has changed since then. You can be a female and be brave, be a plane pilot and have a power job hence not liking crochet and milking babies...

    2/Then yes a male is an adult human with male genetalia (a dick and balls for sperm). It is not an adult human with female genetalia and an artificially masculinised body. Human being have invented the world "Trans" to do a difference between the real Coke and the Pepsi ;)

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  153. I'm sure you dick check everyone you meet to make sure they are bio male or not.

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  154. "To compare the simple fact of having a transsexual parent to child abuse PISSES ME OFF."

    The child abuse transmen do to their kids is the fact they tell them they are real bio male while they are transmales...
    It is abusing the child and it is worse than beating him.
    You can't base parenthood on a lie and such an obvious one.

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  155. OH LOL REALLY?

    Cause I thought being a good parent was about providing love and support and not wheter or not you have a dick or vagina?

    Is being paralyzed child abuse?
    Having one arm?
    Being blind?
    Deaf?
    Epileptic?
    Etc.

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  156. "I'm sure you dick check everyone you meet to make sure they are bio male or not."

    Transmales are easy to spot: smaller hands, scars, female curves and faces, a feeling of weirdness when you look at them and of course nothing in the boxe apart plastic or small dick (meta) or a sausage (phallo). Plus a tendency to think the world is interested by their pathetic trans-stories...

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  157. Not all trans men are spotable. How do you think some live completely stealth.

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  158. "Is being paralyzed child abuse?
    Having one arm?
    Being blind?
    Deaf?
    Epileptic?
    Etc."

    You don't lie about a disability. Nobody can hide he is paralyzed and also having a parent with disability is not touching the psychlogical/gender development of the child.

    In opposite, telling you are a male while you are a transmale can really fuck up the mind of your kid who will not understand why Dad has no dick but a pussy or a tiny penis (meta) or a sausage (phallo)

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  159. Anybody else think that if it were possible for FtM's to get a functioning adult-sized male penis we'd be subjected to all this wishy-washy gender BS?
    I would think any FtM who's partner had a male child would really have dysphoria problems, if they admit it or not.

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  160. Not all trans people transition before they have kids. Of those that do not all tell their child they are biologically male.

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  161. "Not all trans men are spotable. How do you think some live completely stealth."

    yes but they are a fraud.
    What I dont like in the translogic is transmale=biomale. It is not right: transmale and biomale are different. Their body are different. Their childhood are different. A biomale will never bore you with his shot and his late puberty.

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  162. Not all bio men have huge dicks. So some do have small ones that resemble the results of meta.

    You should raise your child to know that EVERYBODY is different.

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  163. "Not all trans people transition before they have kids. Of those that do not all tell their child they are biologically male."

    Yes but also in this case : it is very disturbing. I have a transmale friend of mine, he had transitioned in his late 40's and even if he has teenagers, they all had to go to see a shrink because his son and daughter went through a loss phase of their mother and felt she was dying or disapearing...It is has cut all tight between them.

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  164. "2/Then yes a male is an adult human with male genetalia (a dick and balls for sperm). It is not an adult human with female genetalia and an artificially masculinised body. Human being have invented the world "Trans" to do a difference between the real Coke and the Pepsi ;)"

    It takes more than having a penis to make you a man. Genitalia doesn't make you who you are by any means.

    Your opinion about trans guys has no effect on me and does not validate who I am. It never will either! It is just your opinion. Nothing more nothing less!

    My question is is this? If there's women who are such feminists and hate men then why would you want to look like a man and act like a man? If your such a feminist then why do butches sometimes refer themselves to be bois? I mean really, you can't have your cake and eat it to. It's one or the other. You want to be a woman so why dress like a man and be perceived as a man? My mother is a feminist and she didn't like that lesbian woman dressed as men. The older feminists that I know who are all in their late 40's to 50's have no clue as to why lesbian women who "claim" to be feminists would want to dress like the men that they despise. It's ridiculous to them.

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  165. LOL at your assumptions that all trans men don't start transition until late in life. I bet it would surprise you that some are diagnosed as trans very young, go on hormone blockers and then eventually T, thus skipping female puberty and never getting breasts, period or any of that.

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  166. Yes but also in this case : it is very disturbing. I have a transmale friend of mine, he had transitioned in his late 40's and even if he has teenagers, they all had to go to see a shrink because his son and daughter went through a loss phase of their mother and felt she was dying or disapearing...It is has cut all tight between them.

    I hope he finds out the kind of reading you do.

    Transition is hard for all of those involved but so is any big disease or disorder.

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  167. "Not all bio men have huge dicks. So some do have small ones that resemble the results of meta."

    Having dated more than 100 biomales in my life and a few trans, I have enough experience to see the difference...Face reality...The sonner the best. Yes transmale do not have what it takes to compete against biomales. The penis is one thing but the other is: you don't have sperm. You can't give life. A biomale can.

    A straight woman prefers to have kids from his man not an unknown donor like lesbos do.

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  168. "It takes more than having a penis to make you a man. Genitalia doesn't make you who you are by any means."

    Sweetie, you are a dreamer. I am sorry to write that but you are.

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  169. "My question is is this? If there's women who are such feminists and hate men"

    I don't hate men my dear. I am straight. But I prefer Coke to Pepsi and believe me I have tried enough transguys to have a strong opinion on the topic. Your stories are all the same. NPD is comon. And when I go out with my man, I prefer to talk about news and politics than the nurse coming for the T shot and how to remove the acnea...And when we go to bed, I prefer to have a real dick inside me...

    No offense, I am sure a lot of women (the nurse or shrink or trendsetter type) love to partner transmales but me no way. I build my life with biomales...

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  170. Having dated more than 100 biomales in my life and a few trans, I have enough experience to see the difference...Face reality...The sonner the best. Yes transmale do not have what it takes to compete against biomales. The penis is one thing but the other is: you don't have sperm. You can't give life. A biomale can.

    A straight woman prefers to have kids from his man not an unknown donor like lesbos do.


    If you loath ftm's and think they are scum why are you dating them?

    Not all bio men can give life.

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  171. "If you loath ftm's and think they are scum why are you dating them?

    Not all bio men can give life."

    It was a 2-step process:
    1/ I dated transmales. I realised they had issues and desilusion
    2/ I think it is important to warn other straight women in order they don't loose their time as I did (life is short ;

    Most biomales can give life. Whereas all transmales cannot give life. Stats are in favor of biomales.

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  172. Interesting you say all trans men talk only about their transitions yet whenever I have talked about it it had only been because of questions or urging of others. I have plenty to talk about that is not my transition.

    A trans male can give life but not in the way he wishes to.

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  173. "To compare the simple fact of having a transsexual parent to child abuse PISSES ME OFF."

    The child abuse transmen do to their kids is the fact they tell them they are real bio male while they are transmales...
    It is abusing the child and it is worse than beating him.
    You can't base parenthood on a lie and such an obvious one."

    I have NEVER told my kids that I am a bio male. They both know that I am trans and love me just the same. I have never lied to my kids by any means! They know all about my transition. My kids were NOT brought up to judge people in any way, shape or form. They accept people for who and what they are.

    Shit, I know a lesbian couple who have a 4 year old daughter who tell her that she shouldn't like boys and only girls. That is disgusting to me as that is the wrong kind of parenting. You teach your kids to love who they want to love no what you want them to love.

    I have never abuse my kids...not once!!! They know who and what I am and it doesn't make a difference to either one of them. They love me for me. End of story.

    Sorry they don't fit into some "little" box that judges others. They were brought up right no questions asked.

    If you don't like trans folks then stay away from them. They "we" don't need you in our lives anyways. You just show people who are non-judgmental who and what you really are, a bigot! Nothing more nothing less!

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  174. I don't see why those transmales try to convince this straight woman that transmales are better than biomales.
    That is pathetic.

    The woman said she dated enough biomales and transmales to know what she is talking about.
    Those transmales do not play in the same league than biomales when it comes to straight women with experience.

    I will always remember this 24 years old transguy who once dated a mature straight woman. Of course, she ended up the relationship to go back with a biomale. So you know what the transguy did? He picked up a very young lesbian almost vigin (who had slept once with a woman and never with a biomale).

    I say: "kudos". This guy has understood where he belongs...And that is why transmales are so dependent of dyke and why they read this blog. If they can't access lesbo places, they will not have anymore a reservoir of young virgin.

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  175. "I have NEVER told my kids that I am a bio male. "

    Ok bu most transmales lie to their children about their identity. It was my point.

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  176. The bottom line is that no FtM will ever realistically be able to compete in any way, shape or form with a man. That's where all their over-defensiveness, strange moral justifications and their gender BS is coming from.

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  177. Ok bu most transmales lie to their children about their identity. It was my point.


    No, they don't. Their identity is male. The kids don't need to know the genital status of their father.

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  178. The bottom line is that no FtM will ever realistically be able to compete in any way, shape or form with a man. That's where all their over-defensiveness, strange moral justifications and their gender BS is coming from.

    I don't see why lesbians care so much about this anyway.

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  179. "LOL at your assumptions that all trans men don't start transition until late in life. I bet it would surprise you that some are diagnosed as trans very young, go on hormone blockers and then eventually T, thus skipping female puberty and never getting breasts, period or any of that."

    I was diagnosed at 18 as having GID but waited to go on T Because I didn't know anything about it. We didn't have computers like we do today so I had to do research on my own and try to find books about it. I was re-diagnosed on Dec. 21, 2007 with GID and didn't start T until July 13, 2009. I didn't go on any estrogen blockers or anything as I had no clue about them.

    Maybe you need to do more research to back up your claims! Obviously you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

    Yeah, I was diagnosed with GID young in life and could have been on T at 18 but since I had no knowledge about T I waited. I went back to therapy for 3 years and was diagnosed again with GID. I got my T letter and it still took me 2 years to get on T. I did a whole lot of research on my own before staring T and decided it was the best thing for me to do. It has been the best thing. I don't regret one thing about it at all.

    I'm VERY happy with my results and haven't had no bad side effects from it. I did my research before starting T. I know what could happen and have taken preventative measures so it doesn't happen.I take Milk Thistle and Dandelion for my kidneys and liver 3 times a day along with my other supplements.

    I would never have gone on T had I not done my own research and crap.

    A lot of transmen are diagnosed when they are young with GID...What is wrong with that?

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  180. "Most biomales can give life. Whereas all transmales cannot give life. Stats are in favor of biomales."

    My fiancee' has two kids and that is all that she wants. We raise them as our own.

    Not all women want kids and not all women who have had kids want more kids.

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  181. "The bottom line is that no FtM will ever realistically be able to compete in any way, shape or form with a man. That's where all their over-defensiveness, strange moral justifications and their gender BS is coming from."

    ...And so you are saying a woman can't do what a man can then? You are saying that men are stronger than woman, compete in sports better than a woman, and so on and so on??? Is that your point????
    Honey, go back to the drawing board! Women can do everything a man can't except one thing...and that's to procreate!!!!! Obviously you are no feminist. If so, a bad one at that!

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  182. "My fiancee' has two kids and that is all that she wants. We raise them as our own. "

    You are not the father. You are just the transmale partner. Fraud.

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  183. "I don't see why lesbians care so much about this anyway."

    I think you wrongly assuming Dirt readership is either transmales or lesbians. There are a lot of straight women here too. And parents of confused kids who think they are trans.

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  184. "No, they don't. Their identity is male. The kids don't need to know the genital status of their father."

    Nevermind, they will figure it out my themselves. Kids are not crazy...

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  185. "The bottom line is that no FtM will ever realistically be able to compete in any way, shape or form with a man. That's where all their over-defensiveness, strange moral justifications and their gender BS is coming from."

    Kudos

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  186. "You are not the father. You are just the transmale partner. Fraud."

    No, I am not their FATHER, I am their step-dad! You or no one else can or will ever validate who or what I am to my kids. If you don't like it then piss off! My kids were raised right, not to judge people for who and what they are. I am sorry that you were not raised like that but that's your parents fault not mine. I am in no way a fraud. I raise my kids with just as much love as their real dad. I AM A PARENT whether you like it or not. Your opinion doesn't matter here!!!!

    EPIC FAIL!!!!

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  187. If two lesbians can be parents or if two gay guys can be parent then why can't a woman and a trans guy be a parent? I don't get it. This shit is insane. I agree with T-boy 100%. He is his kids step dad and yet you people are judging him and basically saying he can't be a good step-dad. He and his fiancee' raise them to not judge and so what is wrong with that? Maybe lesbians or two gay men shouldn't be parents then. He can be a parent just like anybody can.

    You people are insane!!!

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  188. Scooter Bot - You missed the point completely. These FtM women DON'T believe that women can be anything more than a strange stereotype, and so try to become a strange male stereotype.
    I myself, like some of the other commenters here, are lucky/stable enough women to be able to like ourselves how we are and to challenge every day societial "norms."

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  189. "He is his kids step dad "

    no he is a trans-dad. Dad is for male born bodied who he is not. Then the kids have the right to choose if they want to play his role play game.

    If trans people have distorted vision of reality ok go and see a shrink but don't force other people around you including the readers of this blog to play this game.

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  190. Trans parents are so funny :) Like in "ok in the pas years, I have played/faked a male". "Now I want to pass as Dad."

    Wake-up! Look at your mirror naked and tell me what do you see? A freak? Yes a freak.

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  191. I'm pretty sure I would have been diagnosed with GID when I was a teenager/young adult. There's no way in hell I would be today, in my 40's. Think it over very carefully and honestly before you do permanent things to your body because of mental health issues.

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  192. the genius T Boy said:

    "My question is is this? If there's women who are such feminists and hate men then why would you want to look like a man and act like a man? If your such a feminist then why do butches sometimes refer themselves to be bois? I mean really, you can't have your cake and eat it to. [sic]"

    A PERFECT example of the conservatism inherent to transexualism; basically saying if you wear 'man clothes' and 'act like a man' you'd better pick a side and stay there!
    Infuriating.

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  193. "Trans parents are so funny :) Like in "ok in the pas years, I have played/faked a male". "Now I want to pass as Dad."

    Wake-up! Look at your mirror naked and tell me what do you see? A freak? Yes a freak."

    It's okay for my friends kid to call her dad, she is with a butch lesbian, but it's not okay for my kids to think of me as their step-dad? It's okay for a lesbian to play daddy? I am just as good of a father as any other dad. My kids know that I am trans and they love me still the same. Maybe your parents should have brought you up and raised you not to be a bigot! That is exactly what you are!!!!

    It doesn't bother me none though because I have a VERY HAPPY FAMILY LIFE with my fiancee' and OUR two kids. I raise my kids the way any parent should, with love and understanding. If you can't accept that then screw you! I love my boys and they love me and if you don't like it well then screw you!
    It's all about love sweetheart. Maybe you should try it sometime. It might do you some good. Maybe you will find a mate or something. With all that hate I doubt you would.

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  194. "A PERFECT example of the conservatism inherent to transexualism; basically saying if you wear 'man clothes' and 'act like a man' you'd better pick a side and stay there!
    Infuriating"

    NO GENIUS, that is not what I said..that is what YOU SAID!!!! Why look and act like MEN if you are feminists? You hate men and all so why look and act like us?

    I have found more lesbians that are more disgusting than men are to be honest. I know plenty of lesbians who are nasty and who degrade other women. I know lesbians who have raped young girls. An ex friend of mine who is sitting in prison right now raped a 13 year old girl with a dildo. She has to sit in prison until 2015 for it. This happened in 2002. She was the ex girlfriend of my ex partner. Disgusting!!!

    Again, if two lesbians can raise kids or if two gay men can raise kids then why can't a straight woman and a transman raise kids? Then again it isn't up to you or what your opinions are. I don't lie to my kids. They know that I am trans and don't see anything wrong with it at all. Maybe you should try out your parenting skills someday. Then again with someone so biased and hateful I couldn't even imagine how those kids would turn out. Probably just as hateful if not more than you. It's all about love baby! Try it, you might like it instead of hating on people.

    Something like you needs no kids as they would turn out as hateful as you.

    God doesn't like ugly!

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  195. and what is this 'acting like men' that lesbians do?
    this is the basis of transexual belief
    that behaviors and dress make the sex
    it IS totally a conservative (i'd say 'regressive') viewpoint.

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  196. "i wonder what feminists are supposed to wear or look like!
    and yes, lesbians are always raping girls"

    No. I said my ex's ex did.. Did you not comprehend my comment or something? I didn't say all lesbians do that I mentioned one!!!! Maybe you need to go back to third grade when they teach about reading comprehension. See ya in about 20 years! Good luck with that sweetie! I wish you well. I know it's hard but I swear you can do it!

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  197. "I have found more lesbians that are more disgusting than men are to be honest. I know plenty of lesbians who are nasty and who degrade other women. I know lesbians who have raped young girls."

    So, what are feminists supposed to look like?

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  198. Anonymous said...

    No, they don't. Their identity is male. The kids don't need to know the genital status of their father.
    April 14, 2011 2:12 AM

    That lacks trans pride! And family secrets always hurt the family in the end! No matter what it is. It never pays to keep something hidden. What will the person do? Hide their entire childhood and baby photos? T-Boy was right about being upfront and honest with the kids.


    T-Boy

    So your own mother was a feminist who disproved of lesbians who dressed as men? How did that make you feel about butch lesbians growing up? How did that make you feel growing up female bodied and being boyish? You don't have to answer my questions if you don't want to.

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  199. "It's okay for my friends kid to call her dad, she is with a butch lesbian, but it's not okay for my kids to think of me as their step-dad? It's okay for a lesbian to play daddy? "

    I have never seen a butch lesbo asking to be called "dad" by her kids. This the thing a transman does because he is insane but a butch no. Never.

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