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Wednesday, March 9, 2011

Trans Trending-Who is Transitioning

Help stop girls and women hating their bodies, hating their selves and hating their lives.

Help stop misogyny, and end female self hatred!

Together we can make a difference!

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  1. They all look the same. So much for being ~special snowflakes~, huh?

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  2. "Anonymous said...
    They all look the same."

    ummmm that is what racists say

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  3. "ummmm that is what racists say"

    or the Anonymous when they fight cult members :P

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  4. It's the Justin Bieber 'dos.

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  5. "They all look the same."

    not one of those people look alike. Are you blind? Or do you just have a bad case of tunnel vision?

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  6. "The Bieber Effect"

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  7. They transition but they don't even know what malehood is.

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  8. This dyke is on T for one year and apart from the low voice, she still looks like a dyke.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqIW3-4o8w
    Also note the awful surgery:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sirmichaelfinland/

    Those person are like pro-ana really, they don't see what is in the mirror.

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  9. @Anon 9:04, indeed, his chest surgery really went wrong...Do you advice them for education purposes? (Note to be viewed by consenting adults)

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  10. @anon 9:04, he wrote under his video on his channel "In my humble opinion it looks awesome and I absolutely love the results. "

    I am speechless...

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  11. These kids look like early teen boys. As a whole LOT of girls who cut their hair short and don't wear make-up do (it's not special, it's natural). They live in a culture that tells everyone that boys are the be-all and end-all and girls are for fucking (and girls have to wear all the shit they do to make sure everyone KNOWS they're fuckable). What's a young girl to do? They don't want to look or act fuckable. They don't relate to being a dyke (because they're straight) or they're too cowardly to come out and live honestly (ewwww, ick, butches). They drift in the direction of genderqueer, then get caught up in this cult, and fall in love with the boy in the mirror. They don't actually know what being a man will be like, they're just kids.

    It's all perfectly understandable.

    The problem is, girls, at 30 you won't be a cute young thing. You'll be losing your hair, your genderqueer friends will have all grown up to realize the world doesn't revolve around their "identity" and you'll be stuck in the desert of the gender anomaly you created with surgery and T -- hangin' out with gay dudes? or the only straight woman you can find on craigslist that still thinks this is hot? or your F2Trans cronies who are equally alone and miserable?

    It's all fun and games to play at the other gender. But if you do things that are reversible, what Dirt and a whole lot of us are telling you is that you're creating a life for yourself that is going to be HELLISH.

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  12. Hey Anon 9:04, among all the photos done by this dyke who thinks she is a fTM, this one is very funny and sad at the same time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sirmichaelfinland/5509953812/
    He/She seems happy. She/he smiles in front of the camera, thumbs up but what we see is a plastic surgery nightmare...
    No wonder those people got depressed 2/3 years after...
    If I had such a chest, I would cry: it is not male, it is not female and it will certainly prevent him or her to go on the beach this summer or even to feel at ease in public...The dream all FTM have to get their shirt off will not be possible for her/him. I have a lot of compassion!

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  13. "you'll be stuck in the desert of the gender anomaly you created with surgery and T"

    So true, so sad, when you do surgery or you take T, you permanently change your body and nothing can tell you what will be the status of people like you in our changing extremist world in 10 or 20 years from now and how people so visually modified will be welcome or not....

    You play a dangerous poker game with yourself and your future.

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  14. The photos given by the Anon above are an example of what should NOT be done by young generations if you don't want to regret it...

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  15. Some thought should be given to transexuals & Narcissistic personality disorder. Philosophically, there is little difference between a narcissist who seeks to avoid their True Self (and positively to become their False Self) and a transsexual who seeks to discard their true gender.
    People sometimes seek sex reassignment because of advantages and opportunities which, they believe, are enjoyed by the other sex. This rather unrealistic (fantastic) view of the other is faintly narcissistic. It includes elements of idealised over-valuation, of self-preoccupation, and of objectification of one's self. It demonstrates a deficient ability to empathise and some grandiose sense of entitlement ("I deserve to be taken care of") and omnipotence ("I can be whatever I want to be despite nature/God").

    This feeling of entitlement is especially manifest in some gender dysphoric individuals who aggressively pursue hormonal or surgical treatment. They feel that it is their inalienable right to receive it on demand and without any strictures or restrictions. For instance, they oftentimes refuse to undergo psychological evaluation or treatment as a condition for the hormonal or surgical treatment.

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  16. Re: Anon @ 11:52 am- Very insightful comments- teen & pre-teen girls are growing up in a highly sexualized environment where they are frequently harassed by boys, groped and grabbed in the hallways at school, called crude names, and worse. As a parent, I can attest to the fact that the level of harassment these girls get is unbelievable. The schools can't or won't solve the harassment problems occurring on the school grounds. And so many of the parents are too busy and/or too dysfunctional to raise their kids. No wonder these girls are confused, no wonder they think it would be better to be a boy. No wonder they will latch on to any kind of peer support they can get, even if that support is from online trans forums, pro-ana websites, or kids who are into cutting, self-harm, drugs or other self-destructive behaviors.

    Re: Anon @ 2:02 pm- good points- I do think there is a relationship between narcissism and the number of teen transtrenders. The teen years are the time where it is normal to do a certain amount of navel gazing. A teenager's judgment and decision-making ability hasn't fully developed, and they are very susceptible to peer influence. There is also the sense of omnipotence and invincibility at that age, where they will engage in high-risk behaviors thinking that consequences won't happen to them.

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  17. "you'll be stuck in the desert of the gender anomaly you created with surgery and T -- hangin' out with gay dudes? or the only straight woman you can find on craigslist that still thinks this is hot? or your F2Trans cronies who are equally alone and miserable?"

    Hmmm. Or you could be a "marvelous proud dyke" and spend all your time trolling around YouTube watching videos of children and posting here. You all seem so happy. REALLY!

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  18. I, for one, am glad someone's willing to "troll YouTube" so the rest of us don't have to. Someone needs to get this information out in a forum where it can be discussed critically, without the pc police shouting "transphobia" every time someone expresses a dissenting view.

    Once this stupid fad is over, we can all get back to more enjoyable things. Except for those poor kids who will be stuck with their modified bodies. Yes, it's a terrible thing to try and offer them another perspective on transsexuality.

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  19. "Once this stupid fad is over, we can all get back to more enjoyable things."

    If this is just a fad as you and Lynn imply, why are you putting so much time and energy into it. Fads are short lived.

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  20. Anon @ 3:55-Maybe fads come and go, but that doesn't mean they don't have an effect on people during the time they are happening and even for years afterward. This particular fad is currently creating a negative environment in the lesbian and gay community, where every dyke is faced with the issue of "transition" one way or the other. It is causing further confusion for young kids like my teenage daughter and her friends who never would be questioning their gender identity if it weren't for this fad.

    Earlier fads like drug abuse have destroyed the lives of friends and family. This is why we need to address fads that are damaging and dangerous.

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  21. In previous post I am referring in particular to surges in popularity of specific drugs like heroin, cocaine, and ecstasy. Substance abuse in general has been around pretty much continually.

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  22. @DM

    I can agree with you that some of the young ones are about fad or trying to fit in. However not all in transition are about that. There are transgendered people out there, I being one of them. The difference being I did not rush out and do something about it. Out of fear of being ostricized mostly.

    I would suggest most of these 14 and 15 year olds will be on to another topic in a few months.

    When you look at the fact youtube is global, the numbers of those actually transitioning in their teenage years simply is not there.

    For myself.. I spent a life of hiding who I am and never really fit anywhere. So nothing has changed there except I wish I had done something about this years ago.

    Meanwhile, even the government recognizes the existence of Transgendered people when they write about topics they usually say LGBT instead of LGB. I believe forcing beliefs on individuals does more harm than good. It seems rather thuggish to me. When does the appearance of being helpful cross the line into stalking, taunting, and targeting the entire Transgendered Male community? ex: the partners of transguys, underaged children exploring their identity, private e-groups/forums, private spaces set up for ftm's. This is what has happened with Lynn, and it has gone on many years.

    When does this stop? When is enough enough? and as a therapist, Lynn should know better than this.

    I realize I am singing to the wrong choir and wasting my time here, but this needs to be said.

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  23. @Anon, regarding stalking, if you are so concerned perhaps you and all the other trans folk could try harder to stay off my blog? Yes?

    And it makes little difference that a person transition at 5 or 65, it is unhealthy, unproductive and unnecessary. That younger people are jumping on the trans bandwagon only gives them a greater risk to their health and shortens their lives sooner than someone who transitions later in life.

    dirt

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  24. Anon @4:24 pm- Personally I would be willing to consider the small possibility that there may be a very few people out there for whom physical sex reassignment is the only solution, in other words, extremely rare. Maybe. I'm not convinced, but willing to consider the possibility. And I've known a number of trans people, including friends, and I've read the literature on the subject, and have not seen anything that makes me feel definitively that it is necessary for anyone. However, I do feel that transition is an adult decision, and I don't believe most of these young people are trans. There are other factors causing them to adopt this trend.

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  25. regarding stalking, if you are so concerned perhaps you and all the other trans folk could try harder to stay off my blog? Yes?

    Lynn,

    There is a far cry difference between this open blog which can be found through a google search (that is how I ran acrossed it, then to maliciously go into a private e-group/forum which is not visible to those not subscribed. THAT is stalking.

    And yes. You posted my material out of the private group. I do not appreciate your invasion into a private group I belong to and participate in. If you really cannot define the difference between a searchable blog and a private email group, than you have issues you need to tend to other than the business of Transgendered People.

    The only reason your blog has traffic is because YOUR INVASION of the Transgendered Community. Otherwise nobody would know you existed.

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  26. DM, if this is such a fad how come I had no idea there was such a large young FTM community online until AFTER i realized it was time to act on my feelings.
    how come for the past 7 years i have been looking in to gender reasignment without even looking for online FTM communities?
    how could i be a part of a "fad" i never knew exhisted?
    please answer this.

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  27. You are SUCH a mis-informed, narrow-minded ass.

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  28. "I know I've said it before but it bears repeating"~ The White Stripes

    I think it's because you are stuck in this myopic lesbian world that you are mentally unable to conceptualize an identity which does not revolve around bodies or genitalia. Thus your continued assertion that ftm's will wind up alone and mutilated. You can't conceive of us having anything to offer anyone other than our "freakish" bodies. Since you get your information from young transitioning individuals, I don't blame you for seeing things this way. Of course they are focused on their bodies-that's what's changing. It's *puberty*, you big dummy. Those of your fans who insist we are have nothing to offer in the way of sperm or penises are as much as saying that they see themselves as "female" products in the marketplace. That they themselves have nothing to offer but their unmutilated breasts and vaginas, smooth skin. This is very telling.

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  29. ^ trans is totally about body-- puleeze!

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  30. Anon 5:42 PM- well, I'm not psychic, so I can't say for sure, but there are other factors that contribute to the trend: queer youth centers, anime, manga, J-Rock and yaoi (pretty boy characters that many girls ID with), Deviant Art & similar sites (influence, not necessarily direct cause), lack of role models for women outside the stereotyped feminine role, not feeling comfortable with one's female body because of messages from society, feeling like an outsider/not fitting in and looking for reasons why, etc. There are lots of factors that relate to this phenomenon- those are just some of the things driving the trend.

    I'm glad you are seeking information and hope you will look into alternatives, not just hormones and surgery. Best wishes.

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  31. When I was diagnosed with GID at 18 years old after 3 years of therapy didn't know anything about transsexualism. I couldn't find much info at the library on it either. All but what I found in encyclopedias. I could have went on T when I was 18 but I wanted to research testosterone first and find out a whole lot about it. I waited until I was diagnosed again with GID in Dec. 2007 to actually go on T and it took me about 2 years to do so.

    I don't see this as a fad as fads are short lived and are grown out of.

    If this is just a fad then why worry about it? I mean, fads come and go all of the time and if this is a fad then like all fads it will die out. But for me this is what and who I am. I went through fads as a teenager like the whole punk rock thing. I still love my punk music and mohawks but I don't go to punk shows or read up on the latest punk bands. I don't go buying t-shirts with my favorite punk bands name on it or anything.

    If this were a fad for me, I would have outgrown it years ago.

    Do I think that maybe there's people reading up on the criteria of being diagnosed with GID and then telling their therapist what they want to hear to get the diagnosis as having GID...Sure, I am sure there are those out there that are doing that. Yes, it's wrong and they should be in therapy longer to get the correct diagnosis and stuff. The second time around going to therapy I went from ages 32-35 before I was re-diagnosed with GID. I went to therapy once a week that whole time. I wrote journal entries for my therapist and talked and talked and even shed some tears.

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  32. There is no therapy designed to help those who have developed the trans disorder. I'd be curious how often your therapist brought misogyny to you?

    And because you didnt trannify overnight doesnt negate mean there are hundreds and hundreds of girls around the world who arent.

    dirt

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  33. Actually my therapist did once right after my second diagnosis of GID. She asked if and when I get my top surgery will I find it to be self-mutilation or not. She brought up a good point and asked a good question but I was honest in my answer and told her not it wouldn't be....not to me anyways.

    Yes, there are loads of young people trying to get a GID diagnosis and therapists need to take more time with them to make sure that that is the right diagnosis and not them reading stuff off the net and scripting it in their head the next time they see him or her.

    I had a friend back when I was 28 or 29 who wanted to be on xanax or klonopin and she read about anxiety and panic disorder and memorized the symptoms and told the shrink those symptoms and he put her on Klonopin. All she did was abuse it.

    It's probably not uncommon for some younger people to do to get a GID diagnosis. Yes, it's wrong for sure.

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  34. I'm sure there are ways for you to make your points without using these people's photographs/screen captures without their knowledge or consent.

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  35. Anonymous said...
    I'm sure there are ways for you to make your points without using these people's photographs/screen captures without their knowledge or consent.

    AMEN!!

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  36. Yeah, I'll third that.

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  37. I asked my pastor to take a look at this blog and let me know what she thought. I did not interject and of my thoughts or opinions into it. My pastor is Lesbian. She said this blog is about power and control and has nothing to do with helping those who are considering transition or in transition. She also stated the person who is running this blog is troubled and perhaps we would be doing her a bigger service by praying for her.

    It kind of set me back and made me have to think. All I wanted to do was wring Dirts neck (not literally). It did not occur to me perhaps praying for her or wishing her positive thoughts might be a better use of my energy.

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  38. anon @11:32


    BAM. You and your pastor killed it, friend.

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  39. I agree with Anon @1:00 AM....I asked my pastor to read this blog and he said she has serious issues within herself and has had a lot of healing to do. He also said that this blog is not about helping people who are trans but more on the side of hating herself and using self-projecting hate against herself. He said that people like this need to be prayed for and hope that one day that they to find their self instead of using self projecting hate against others. From what he read he said she is a lost cause and a lost soul in need of serious help.

    I also agree with Damien on this.

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  40. Both pastors, then, did not read very carefully, or think too hard about what they read. That's not surprising.

    People who go into the ministry (and nursing, and teaching, and counseling) often have a great deal invested in seeing themselves as ultra-compassionate and empathetic, as peacemakers and healers, etc. Such people have a hard time with anything that looks like negativity, and they don't get a whole lot of feedback in their jobs that would help them be more objective.

    They tend to want to find an obvious underdog, and an obvious bad guy, and side with what they think is good, and pure, and true. The problem is, they don't ask too many questions. Then they might have to deal with some complexity, and that wouldn't be nearly as fun.

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  41. Anonymous, 1:44 AM:

    You are right. I had the *pleasure* to be bullied in a boarding school by a clear sociopath and was surrounded by a bunch of people planning to go into ministry.
    They absolutely had *NO* understanding of justifiable anger. I HATED my bully, I really did and their response was: "You just have to learn to forgive!" Didn't go to my bully and asked her to stop her campaign, no, they went to me and told me to FORGIVE.

    Many pastors/priests only have a problem with people who show their discontent and are not sorry about it. If you appeared crying on their doorsteps they would feel pity but not actually try to do anything for you or understand your situation. They are so incredibly naive as to think that forgiveness and love will save all DESPITE clear evidence that other people might live to destroy you. The biggest bullshit is naturally to convince people that this desire in others to destroy you for status/sadistic pleasure can be conquered by being LOVING and FORGIVING. HOLY SHIT NO.

    PS.: I actually had a fairly conservative PROTESTANT therapist once who had actually started studying theology. Told me when I couldn't understand that those who wanted to go into MINISTRY wouldn't help me that he knew individuals like that and that they were too naive and ideological to see what was going on.

    And seriously involking PASTORS to validate your opinion? How about you start thinking for yourselves and stop sounding like a conservative Christian from the Bible Belt?

    (Just as an opinion given on this idiotic "BUT MY PASTOR".)

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  42. "Many pastors/priests only have a problem with people who show their discontent and are not sorry about it."

    This particular pastor is not like that. She is not one who sits on the sidelines and remains silent. She is definately an activist for LGB and yes T rights. I took this to her because I know she is not like that.

    I am sorry for your experience. But as with anything, I think it is important to try and remember that our experiences do not mean all who hurt us are made the same way. If a dog bites me, that does not mean all dogs bite unprovoked. If a woman slaps me that does not mean all women slap people. If a woman dumps me, that does not mean all women will dump me.

    I had a very bad experience with an MCC pastor, so I know not all pastors are good. Before the bad MCC pastor I had two great MCC pastors and after that pastor I had the pleasure of having this pastor. I trust her judgement and had no idea what her response to me would be.

    I see a lot of that ALL or NOTHING thinking here on this blog. for example. They all look alike.. They are all angry.. (Angry Transmen - Proud Lesbians) None of them know what they are doing..

    The all or nothing thinking scares me.. It is very compartmentalized.

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  43. Transition is a challenge. Those kids do think it is perfectly smooth, that with x mg of T and a hint of surgery, everything will look like they want to. They live in an illusion of control over their own body. But kids, just simply look at Anon 9:04 links (Dirt have you seen them?), this person even with surgery, even one year on T is still looking like the dyke she used to be.
    If you browse her channel, you even learn her gf is a lesbian. No wonder has it must not be too challenging to date her as she still looks like a woman.
    Maybe she will be for ever "stuck in the middle" but that is what this blog is about kids: trying to alert you about the risks of transition and the lack of control you indeed have over it.

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  44. Transpeople should be sent to Iran and cured there. There are a shame for American Christians. Hopefully we can spot them and design an appropriate solution to get rid of those circus freaks or they will get extinct thanks to liver cancer.

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  45. DM well i live on a farm and have no interest in anime or whatver else you feels influences us to be this way specially since i remember feeling out of place and "like a boy" since as far back as 4 years old, you have to understand that you have simply no idea how i feel and how long i have felt this way, dont be so neive to beleive you understand the human mind. ou simpl dont. this is not a fad, dont be so neive.

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  46. Anon@11:38,

    You and every other Butch or tomboy, its nothing new. I refused dresses at age two, and wore pants ever since, so what. That didnt make me a boy, it only confused me as a girl. If you work to investigate what informs your feelings, you can work to get past the "wrong" feelings about yourself and for once in your life, feel right.

    dirt

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  47. Dirt why did you delete my comment? i will say it again.

    how i felt had nothing to do with being a tomboy or wearing pants,
    you ARE jumping to conclusions and making up assumptions about me. and you are wrong.
    Once again, PROOF you are an ignorant fool that has no idea what she is talking about, go ahead and delete this to make it SEEM like i had nothing to reply with, you and me both know i did. stop edditing everything to make this illusion that everything on here supports your claims. i will go ahead and print screen this.

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  48. Actually proof again how early the gender straight jacket gets strapped to each of us, which clearly through the blur of your disorder fail to see.

    dirt

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  49. @kurukurushoujo -- damn right. And the popularity of 12-step programs among gay people, in particular, has only compounded the problem, imo.

    Then there's MCC -- a denomination that does provide a safe haven for people who have been harmed by anti-gay churches, but which also tends to have a "circle the wagons and protect our own" mentality. That approach to life can be comforting, but it also stifles critical thought, sometimes with disastrous results.

    -- 1:44

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  50. @Anon March 11, 2011 12:07 PM

    How "did you feel like a boy"?

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  51. Canadian, I am not anon @11:38 but I did have a similar experience to the poster above which led to me believing I was ftm for a number of years.

    As a young child I was convinced that I was male (bodied) until I saw a real boy naked. After that I was still convinced that I was 'secretly' a boy. It was not related to any outside influence *as far as I knew* in that I was raised with plenty of strong female role models and I didn't mind being perceived as a girl, it just never seemed true in my heart of hearts. In my 20s it came to light that my biological father, who has some psychiatric problems, had told me persistantly as a very small child that I was a boy. I can't remember this but my mother does.

    This was a revelation to me and goes some way to explaining why I had this lifelong 'delusion' about being secretly male. Dirt says "work to investigate what informs your feelings." I believe that a 'male identity' in a female person is a construct, due to some outside influence, but it certainly can be more complicated than the standard female/butch shame narrative.

    I have to say this for dirt even though her theory oversimplifies in some cases she's got it right in general and that is why people are scared of her. fact.

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  52. "As a young child I was convinced that I was male (bodied) until I saw a real boy naked. After that I was still convinced that I was 'secretly' a boy. It was not related to any outside influence *as far as I knew* in that I was raised with plenty of strong female role models and I didn't mind being perceived as a girl, it just never seemed true in my heart of hearts. In my 20s it came to light that my biological father, who has some psychiatric problems, had told me persistantly as a very small child that I was a boy. I can't remember this but my mother does."

    I relate to this too. I remember growing up and when I presented "masculine" behaviours(ie not wanting to wear dresses/not playing with dolls etc)
    I was told by my mother that "maybe I should have been a boy". I have also heard stories of parents not being happy with having a girl and making a point of vocalizing that to their children. This over valueing of males and the stereotyping of behaviors as "masculine" and "feminine" has a powerful affect. It is not a stretch to think/believe that this informs alot of trans people if they care to look at it honestly.

    "This was a revelation to me and goes some way to explaining why I had this lifelong 'delusion' about being secretly male. Dirt says "work to investigate what informs your feelings." I believe that a 'male identity' in a female person is a construct, due to some outside influence, but it certainly can be more complicated than the standard female/butch shame narrative.

    I have to say this for dirt even though her theory oversimplifies in some cases she's got it right in general and that is why people are scared of her. fact."

    I totally agree. The affects of stereotyping are varied and complex and are different from person to person and it is the outside influence you speak about.
    The consistant refusal of some trans people on this blog to address this issue is testement to this fear. "Butch" women have to come out and speak about this more and not treat it like a shameful secret. Most if not all "Butch" women have had to deal with this issue because of their non conformance to traditional norms and the inevitable confusion this causes.

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  53. speaking also as a adult butch- who thought for many years that i was trans--- (in my younger years)--- imagine that young ftm's- i was in your exact place, feeling the exact thoughts you all write about on here. i "felt" like a boy and felt like i was born in the wrong body from the age 3 on.
    but i grew up- i matured. i got therapy. i realized that it's not me that has the disorder- its society.

    as butches we must strive to survive, to show this fucked up society that different variations of 'women' can be. and can be happy with their natural selves.

    we are not so different- us butches & the ftms.

    i like to compare it to choosing to be healthy in life- for instance in your diet. i am vegan and try to eat only organic- why- because it's natural, and the way things should be.
    ftm's who transition remind me of people who eat fast food, get obese, then resort to surgeries to fix the issue.

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  54. "you feel like a boy"

    Bullshit: I am an engineer, a plane pilot, I love trail & solo climbing, I love taking risks, I loved to receive gifts like cars, science lab when I was kid, I love sportswear...

    And I am a feminine woman, not even a butch, moreover not a FTM...

    There is nothing like a mental gender but just posing kids who want to look cool by transitioning for the wrong reasons...
    The only reason why you should transition is not because "you feel male on the inside" (that is bullshit, nobody feels male or female from the inside) or you want males privileges (we are not in Iran) but because you want to see a masculinised version of yourself in the mirror...

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  55. I can tell you anon (11:02) that I did and do 'feel male' inside, I am being honest. But I also recognise this as a delusion and not something I should guide my life by. By saying 'no one really feels x y or z' you are alienating part of your audience. These people will just think they are special and different.

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  56. @ 4:27 AM, can you define what you mean by "I did and do 'feel male' inside" ?

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  57. @ 8:29 anon

    I believed myself to be male basically, against all evidence and despite not being traditionally masculine. I don't believe in the concept of mental gender any longer but this delusion if you wanna call it that is still persistant and intrusive. In my post on March 11 1:45 I explain what I suspect to be the reason for these irrational thoughts. I'm undergoing therapy.

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  58. Why is everyone so bent out of shape about what OTHER people are doing.It concerns them and whoever they want to include. Not them and the entire world.
    People say that being homosexual is a mental disorder that can be fixed. I am sure everyone here does not agree witht that. Does not apperciate it when other people say so. Treat others the way you want to be treated. That is something that most of us have learned in elementary school.
    Yes Dirt can say whatever she wants on her blog. If you want to reach people because this is a "feminist" issue. (side note look up feminist FTM transitioners)You might not want to do it hatefully. No one responds to hate. For instance your "Who is Transitioning" posts. I know your probably going to say I have not said one hateful thing. Maybe not yet in this post. Besides the concept of the entire post. You might not feel that you are. That people are just "afraid of the truth." That is usually not the case. Though there is hate coming from both sides and thats not okay.
    Its no one's place to judge anyone. That goes for both sides.

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  59. Homosexuality IS being "fixed" through transition.

    dirt

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  60. How is that possible when a majority of the straight community does not support transition either.

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  61. @Anon March 12, 2011 11:04 AM



    "People say that being homosexual is a mental disorder that can be fixed. I am sure everyone here does not agree witht that. Does not apperciate it when other people say so. Treat others the way you want to be treated. That is something that most of us have learned in elementary school"

    Again a parallel is being drawn with homosexuals. And the response for the "nth" time: Homosexuals do not have to alter their bodies to express their "true selves". Trans people are not comfortable in their own bodies and want to change them. BIID sufferers and anorexics are not comfortable in their bodies either. Should we enable such behavior and allow people to remove healthy parts of their bodies or starve themselves under the credo of "Treat others the way you want to be treated"? The answer is obviously no. Any other answer is ethically questionable at best.

    "Yes Dirt can say whatever she wants on her blog. If you want to reach people because this is a "feminist" issue. (side note look up feminist FTM transitioners)"

    How does the existance of "feminist transitioners" negate the arguement that transitioning poses disturbing questions about stereotyping. How does that allay concerns expressed here?

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  62. Homosexuality is not being "fixed" by transition. Do you know how many transsexuals I know that are gay?

    I know straight transpeople, gay & lesbian transpeople, bisexual transpeople, polyamourous transpeople, non-sexual transpeople. Sex, gender and sexuality are completely unrelated.

    You think that just because someone transitions from female to male, that they we're once a lesbian?

    That's a stereotype, and you know it.

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  63. Do you actively watch the videos you take screenshots from?

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  64. "i like to compare it to choosing to be healthy in life- for instance in your diet. i am vegan and try to eat only organic- why- because it's natural, and the way things should be.
    ftm's who transition remind me of people who eat fast food, get obese, then resort to surgeries to fix the issue."

    This offends me! Why are most dykes fat and out of shape, smokers and drinkers when most ftm's are exercisers and health conscious?

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  65. "This offends me! Why are most dykes fat and out of shape, smokers and drinkers when most ftm's are exercisers and health conscious?"

    because despite the shame we are 'expected' to feel for our 'mutilated' bodies we are proud and happy.

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  66. "because despite the shame we are 'expected' to feel for our 'mutilated' bodies we are proud and happy."

    Exactly.

    I feel strongly that we represent shame to people, and they rightly react to it. Nobody wants to see the embodiment of shame in front of them. That paradigm needs to shift, because even trans people have started to realize that it's not a necessary part of transitioning. I feel affection towards my boobies, which are gone, but I never felt hatred. I feel affection towards my whole body, "pussy" included. Before people started physically transitioning this conflict did not exist. Butches feel pressured to transition, *usually* not from us *or* from their partners, but because they look at us and wonder if they too feel alienated from their bodies. It brings on existential despair to those who have had to maintain such a fierce protection of their female identities. I feel sure that most ftm's don't feel threatened by butch's acceptance of their own bodies...unless that acceptance is erroneously necessitates a rejection and hatred of the ftm identity on behalf of butches in question. We don't have to be at odds with each other. We do have to question how much of our opinions about each other come from assumptions we are making. Assumptions come from ourselves-not from direct conversation and dialogue. There is absolutely nothing wrong with living with and loving your own body as it is-regardless of how the world views it. There is something wrong with ignoring what you want and how you feel. Regardless of how the world sees your decisions.

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  67. "I feel affection towards my boobies, which are gone, but I never felt hatred."

    If you felt "affection" for them, then why did you get them hacked off?

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  68. "If you felt "affection" for them, then why did you get them hacked off?"

    Sucked out is a better approximation. I try to avoid words like "hacking" and "mutilation" because my aunt and my grandmother have both had mastectomies.

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  69. That's still not answering the question.

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  70. to anon:
    This offends me! Why are most dykes fat and out of shape, smokers and drinkers when most ftm's are exercisers and health conscious?

    haha you make me laugh. again with all the assumptions.

    if ftms are so health conscious with their bodies- this just makes me laugh.
    i try so hard not to put bad things into my body. i clean my house with non-toxic stuff, i eat organic, etc, etc. i try to live NATURALLY.

    naturally in my natural given body. if there is a illness in the head re: body image, then it should be 'fixed' by talking out the issues. not by unnaturally changing the body.

    sorry yall were born just fine. your mental illness is the issue, not your body.

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  71. "If you felt "affection" for them, then why did you get them hacked off?"

    I guess they didn't feel like they were a part of me. Like they were somebody else's boobs stuck on my body-like a bad dream. I honestly feel that I just made an adjustment and that I have been whole throughout.

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  72. "i try so hard not to put bad things into my body. i clean my house with non-toxic stuff, i eat organic, etc, etc. i try to live NATURALLY. "

    That's real great for you. But I'm skeptical of this concept of "natural" as I think the hippies brought it here and it stuck. While you are busy congratulating yourself I'll tell you what my problem is with "natural": 1)it costs too much for all people to afford it, 2)it's boug-y and Whole Foods is making a pretty penny off your self-satisfaction , 3) what are you going to do if you get cancer, take St. John's Wort for it?

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  73. to anon at 3:32pm

    "That's real great for you. But I'm skeptical of this concept of "natural" as I think the hippies brought it here and it stuck. While you are busy congratulating yourself I'll tell you what my problem is with "natural": 1)it costs too much for all people to afford it, 2)it's boug-y and Whole Foods is making a pretty penny off your self-satisfaction , 3) what are you going to do if you get cancer, take St. John's Wort for it?"

    a. i don't shop at whole foods.
    b. i clean with baking soda, vinagar & lemon juice. last i checked, it's cheaper than lysol.
    c. it's cheaper to buy the foods i eat now, compared to quick foods i bought before.
    d. T is expensive, as is surgeries.

    it's been proven many times over that it's cheaper to buy real food over packaged, quick food anyday.

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  74. anon at 3:32

    http://www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=what_20_will_buy_at_the_drivethru_and_at_the_supermarket

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  75. (yes we all know about manly 'cael' and her unceasing dysphoria)

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  76. You know, I think its very rude the way most of you all bash us genderqueer and/or ftms. Its one thing to not understand us but you do not have to disrespect us. We do not HATE woman, some of us do not feel comfortable in our own skin. Our gender is male but we were born bio-female and that doesnt sit well with us. Education and respect is key most of yall are ignorant fools. Learn some respect!
    Its not a fad...some of y'all make me sick to my stomache the way you talk about us. We are humans treat us as such!

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  77. wtf How is homosexuality being fixed through transition smh

    Some of y'all are really harsh and rude. Just because you do not uderstand doesnt mean you have to disrespect. smh

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  78. I am one of the people in that, and hey guess what? I NEVER mention self-hatred in my video. I love my female body and i think im hot as hell. It's just not me ;D Kay? So stop posting stupid bullshit without even watching the video or paying attention to what the person has to say.

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