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Sunday, February 20, 2011

Mautner Project-The National Lesbian Health Organization

The Mautner Project is yet another organization created by lesbians for lesbians whose monies are now being utilized to treat straight women walking on the wild side, men who claim to be "women" and women/lesbians who no longer want to be women.

Everyone deserves health care and proper treatment, but lesbians do NOT deserve to have our identity co-opted so that our needs, our time, our donations, our hard work, our love for other lesbians become an umbrella for non lesbians and their problems, while our issues get push aside or shoved completely under the fucking rug!

Please do not donate any time or money to the Mautner Project if you are a lesbian trying to ease/benefit the lives of needy lesbians. This organization deceptively uses our Lesbian name to wrench our time and money from us (the least economically affluent group out of the whole queer alphabet soup).

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  1. Interesting. Susan Hester is still the Ex Officio board member and Founder of the Mautner Project. She's a lesbian... she started the organization... she must sanction its activities in serving all those populations that you're so pissed off about.

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  2. Slightly contradictory there dirt, one second ftm ID'd people are women next they cannot access a service of women partnering other women inc BISEXUAL (yes they exist) and Transgendered, are you serious?
    make up your mind.

    the world is not out to exploit or attack you..

    as a women you should welcome any women regardless of sexual orientation.

    I thought your purpose was about women,and gaining power and voices as women, but it appears its only about lesbians?

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  3. Yeah, I agree. We lesbos should stick to our own organizations and make sure to keep all the non-lesbians OUT.

    Come to think of it, we should probably have our own schools too. And bathrooms, and drinking fountains. And you know, they should probably designate special seats for us on the bus.

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  4. @anon 6:33

    Don't bother. He'll only assert that no, that's not what this blog is about at ALL and if you really read into it you'd know that (of course, he'll never actually tell you what it is he is trying to say here. No, no, that's too obvious and only a total dimwit wouldn't get it)

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  5. Anon@ 6:33
    I think the problem is that this org. states that it is a National Lesbian Health Org. and that it is a ( Support organization for lesbians with cancer and their love ones). Since it's primary focus should be on lesbians and their illnesses, I understand the anger.

    This is their Mission Statement: Mautner Project is committed to improving the health of women who partner with women including lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals, through direct and support service, education and advocacy.

    This is their Vision: Mautner Project envisions a health care system that is respectful of and accessible to all without regard for their sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression. Our vision is a society in which all individuals are empowered with the knowledge to utilize these resources and to make appropriate choices for themselves.
    They should drop the lesbian part and just be a national health org.

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  6. I understand that you are taking issue with having the word lesbian in the name of an organization that in reality serves a slightly broader scope of women.

    But I take issue with this statement you made, "but lesbians do NOT deserve to have our identity co-opted so that our needs, our time, our donations, our hard work, our love for other lesbians become an umbrella for non lesbians and their problems, while our issues get push aside or shoved completely under the fucking rug!"

    In regards to this particular organization, I don't see lesbian issues being swept under the rug at all.
    From what I can see on their site, the programs they offer such as Removing the Barriers, S.H.E. circle,EDUcate, the bereavement program, all have a focus on lesbian issues.
    Do they include bisexuals and transgender women who are in relationships with other women? Yes. However, As far as I can tell, it's not that this organization is focusing on non lesbian issues and pushing lesbians issues aside as you said, but that the leaders of this organization realized that many of the problems that bisexual women and transgender women face are similar to the issues that lesbians face and just decided to include them.


    I realize how very important it is have a good level of trust and comfort with my doctors. In order for me to get to that level, it would mean them not assuming that I'm straight, being educated on lesbian issues, health risks, etc. This organization does seem to address those issues, so as a "lesbian trying to ease/benefit the lives of needy lesbians" I would gladly support an organization like this.

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  7. lol their mission and vision statement are both inclusive and the term lesbian i would look at it as a respect for attracting lesbian women or women who partner with other women.. and if dirt continues to call FTM women (and if they date women) then their fore would they not be lesbians?
    Dirt while you say you cannot change your DNA (or what ever) with any hormone or surgery and continue to call an ftm a women/female, then regardless of their own personal Gender Identity, then they have EVERY right to access such a service "As a women, that they are"

    Sorry you made the mistake here no one else :D

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  8. Mere,

    Public lous and drinking facilities are not deceptively asking for lesbian dollars for their funding, they are provided by the general tax payer dollars.

    dirt

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  9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3S24ofEQj4

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  10. Anon 7:38 "he"??

    are you seriously calling Dirt a he? ugh

    my head hurts

    this trans bs just gets more and more exasperating

    ~ Lily (now has a blog)

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  11. sailorcalliope said...
    Anon 7:38 "he"??

    are you seriously calling Dirt a he? ugh

    my head hurts

    this trans bs just gets more and more exasperating

    ~ Lily (now has a blog)





    Does that offend you that some one may/may not have called Dirt a he?

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  12. Anonymous, YES it offends me because Dirt is a woman.

    I'm offended because someone here the other day suggested that I'm less than 100% female because I have PCOS.

    I'm offended because apparently behaving or looking a certain way means you must be a different sex (somehow). heh

    deeply offended.

    ~lily

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  13. "but lesbians do NOT deserve to have our identity co-opted so that our needs, our time, our donations, our hard work.."

    What lesbian organizations do you financially support dirt? What time and hard work have you put into your local lesbian community?

    You ride on the back of the money donated and hard work done by lesbians out there in their communities in order to serve your agenda.

    Sitting on your ass broadcasting views and experiences gathered online does not make you an expert on lesbian anything. Get off your ass, get into your community get your hands dirty and do some real volunteer work before you go 'co-opting' the hard work and financial support of other lesbians for your own lazy ass gain.

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  14. "are you seriously calling Dirt a he? ugh

    my head hurts

    this trans bs just gets more and more exasperating"

    Um, I'm thoroughly confused. What's wrong with referring to lynne as he? Englighten me, please.

    And p.s., I am not trans, but in fact a butch lesbian. Suck on that.

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  15. "Mere,

    Public lous and drinking facilities are not deceptively asking for lesbian dollars for their funding, they are provided by the general tax payer dollars.

    dirt"

    No but they should. We should have our own facilities. I mean, my tax dollars pay for these things, I don't want to be sharing them with any nasty breeders, transtrenders, or whatever the heck else is out there. ArianImeanLesbian Power!!!!

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  16. "Anonymous, YES it offends me because Dirt is a woman.

    I'm offended because someone here the other day suggested that I'm less than 100% female because I have PCOS.

    I'm offended because apparently behaving or looking a certain way means you must be a different sex (somehow). heh

    deeply offended.

    ~lily"

    LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLLOL

    mission accomplished.

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  17. To be honest if you ID as a women PCOS or not you are a women, if you look like a man but ID as a women so be it....

    I think that dirt is destroying or at least TRYING to destroy something that so many WOMEN built...

    im sorry you are offended, BUT in all honesty suck it the fuck up, Transgender people have to when dirt slanders their faces and rights on this blog. what she does is not morally ok and neither is half the shit thats going on here

    at the end of the day this is the internet and most people on here dont have the 'balls'/'vaginas' to be actual advoctes

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  18. 1: Most people don't care to be advocates for anything except themselves.
    2: Referring to Dirt as "he", is a bit childish whether you consider yourself butch or not, but I doubt that you are butch.
    3: What is a breeder? Are you labeling a woman who wants to have a child as a breeder?

    If an Organization is going to be all inclusive, it should have a name that fits. A lesbian started it at the request of her dying partner. She honored her by naming it after her, and saying that it is there to help lesbians and women who partner with women. If ftm's don't consider themselves female, why would they want to seek help from an org for women anyway?

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  19. breeder is commonly used by lesbians when refferring to hetrosexual community...

    i didnt call dirt a he and neither did that other person but that is where the convo led to...

    and how do we honestly know ftm's access the service...

    my point is dirt CANNOT continue to call ftm's women and then expect them to not access womens services.. you cant have your cake and eat it to.... FTM dirt regularly refers to them as women even AFTER total transition so therefor they have "rights" to access these services, UNTIL YOU RECOGNISE AN FTM AS A MAN THEN YOU CAN EXPECT TO COMPETE IN "WOMENS" SERVICES WITH THEM GET OVER IT.....

    hahhahahahahahaahahaha

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  20. Lily,

    Congrats on the blog!.

    dirt

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  21. If ftM's work to physically and legally murder and erase their femaleness they give up their rights to lesbian and womens spaces and orgs period.

    dirt

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  22. When trans people refer to Dirt as a he, why don't they remember they MUST RESPECT another person's gender identity? Referring to Ms Spivak as "he" is just as much of a crime, no? BTW, my gender identity is that of a hermaphroditic racoon so please respect it.

    Seriously, Dirt is a woman. That's it.

    I'm sorry Lily if you got that PCOS impression from me but I didn't want to say PCOS women aren't women, just that FTM transition is not really a sex change, but mimics the effects of PCOS. So, basically, FTMs remain women with a severe case of PCOS. There's no internal male organs, no male genitals, etc.

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  23. *Frances SpiSak the neonazi transwoman murderer, btw. I suck at remembering surnames.
    Though, about the Mautner Project, how can you tell a woman is a lesbian? And if you discover that she isn't later, or if she discovers that herself, would you withdraw the cure and support? This just looks heartbreaking to me. Political/civil groups are one thing, but health services should be open to anyone, regardless of sex or sexual orientation (I do support women only rape centers though, but that should be obvious why)

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  24. Health services specifically created for a minority group using minority dollars should NOT be open to every joe bloe under the sun, thats what general hospitals are for!

    Your straight privilege is showing Blue.

    dirt

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  25. In Italy most basic healthcare is public to everyone (a position I'm in agreement with, I never go to private clinics. I'm a socialist)...

    And since I've never passed as straight, as far as other people tell me, I'm not sure where I might have used my straight privilege up until now.

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  26. Blue, you use it with regularity here and elsewhere.

    Lesbians, especially lesbian minorities are the bottom of the barrel socially and economically among both women and men. Lesbians have historically been harmed by the male hetero medical machine, a history that continues playing out today. Because of that history, because that history hasnt changed, we lesbians have a healthy distrust of the medical community.

    All which is why it is important for lesbians to be able to access at least a few facilities where who we fall in love with isnt going to be used against us, we arent going to be made uncomfortable and we are going to be treated for our illness not judged for being lesbians.

    dirt

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  27. Dirt, thanks! :)

    Bluetraveler, it wasn't you!! - it was a transwoman posting in another thread who said a woman with pcos is less than female!

    I'm sorry you thought I was referring to you, Blue, btw your post on why GRS is brilliant!

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  28. Dirt, maybe you should disable anonymous commenting. The anonymous posters always seem to completely miss the point either by tunnel vision or plain arrogance. They could at least step up and choose a name to attach their ramblings to.

    The lesbian health fund IS necessary because we lesbians do sometimes get discriminated against by the medical machine. It does happen.

    I wouldn't expect the Kidney Foundation to fund my hearing aids. It's ridiculous that a lesbian foundation should funnel it's money to all manner of nonlesbians.

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  29. Frankly, if a heterosexual organization were to advertise their medical services (or any other services for that matter) were for heterosexuals only every one of you feminists would be all over them for discrimination. For a lesbian organization to rule out help to all other orientations is nothing short of discrimination.

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  30. sailorcalliope@2:33
    "deeply offended.

    ~lily"


    Successful troll is successful.

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  31. Anonymous 3:02, don't flatter yourself.

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  32. Ok, so Dirt, what LESBIAN organizations that are not sold out should we donate to(providing you have funds to donate which unfortunately I do not at this time)?

    HOwever if I needed the services of the Mautner Project, I would use them. And Lyon Martin Project is about to go down, which was started by and for Lesbians, and opened it up to bi, trans females and males as well...it is biting the dust.....


    I wouldn't expect a Native American clinic, except for emergencies to cater to nonNatives, why does everyone always ride the coattails of Lesbian organizations rather than start their own????

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