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Friday, February 11, 2011

Friday Discussion

Homosexuality crosses all races and all handicaps, why do you feel transism is disproportionately a white issue and why are there next to no (if any) blind transsexuals? Were transism something one were born with like homosexuality, why would transism step over blind men and women???

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  1. I'm hispanic and transsexual. I also have no peripheral vision in my right eye, and can't legally drive without my glasses. I'm not blind but sometimes I feel it.
    If you have any questions for me you're more than welcome to ask.

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  2. I know black, Latino, thai, Korean, Micmac, and jewish ftm's, as well as many transmen with disabilities.

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  3. Kind of a loaded question but idk why i'm both white and trans and have terrible vision but not blindness. Maybe it's because my parents are white, my grandparents had bad vision, and cuz I have a gay cousin and maybe the gay and trans gene are related. But I'd hate to blame being white on my parents. One love, the Danimal aka Dan

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  4. How do you know every blind person you meet isn't transsexual?

    And really the chances of being both trans and blind? Really low.

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  5. I'd just like to point out that I've seen a lot of black trans people on Youtube. Also, a blind trans person probably wouldn't be making videos, which is primarily where you seem to be looking for FTMs. Just because you haven't personally seen them doesn't mean they don't exist.

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  6. 0.4% of the population is blind. 0.08% of the population is transsexual.

    The odds of one being both trans and blind are 0.032%.

    Can you point me to the study you are quoting about there being no blind transsexuals?

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  7. "The odds of one being both trans and blind are 0.032%."

    Sorry that is 0.00032% chance of being both blind and trans.

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  8. Wait Homesexuality is something you are born with?

    If that is common knowledge to everyone?, then i dont know why they are so many homophobes out there. Most of whom claim it5s a lifestyle.

    Here you are trying to make transexuality a fake thing, someoone out there is doing the same to you "innate" homosexuality.

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  9. There's plenty of non-white transsexuals, they're just less likely to get SRS and don't dominate trans politics like former straight white guys and wannabe white guys do.

    MtF "lesbians" and FtM "gay men" seem to be a predominantly white, western phenomenon, though.

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  10. I am a European Lesbian and I do not care if I was born this way or not. I know for sure I was born with congenital heart disease. After 3 open heart surgeries, I would never have any extra surgeries based on some strange societal expectations (my perceived). I am dependent on medication (which I do not always take) and I would never do something willingly like take "T" all the time. I also have struggled with my gender identity, but it is not the most important thing in the world to me.
    Greta

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  11. My best friend is a black FTM.

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  12. Probably for the same reason why blind people don't blog on youtube...?

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  13. also I think if YouTube was in braille, perhaps more blind FtM and MtF would be able to talk about their feelings.

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  14. and blind radical feminist butch lesbians! :-D

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  15. because it is a rich white spoilt kids to transition?

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  16. some people here ae not very good at X % :D

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  17. I'm transitioning and not white, and I had to work in retail overtime while going to school full time in order to do so. I live in the ghetto and appreciate every day I'm alive and happy as I walk to the bus stop. :)

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  18. There are blind transsexuals.. there's a story about one when you look it up on google. What are your facts based on? A wild guess?

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  19. This is actually really interesting because I just met a blind mtf and through her met 3 blind mtf's and another blind mtf. I also have met a deaf mtf. And there are A LOT of african american trans men on youtube and even a lot of asian and hispanic transmen on youtube as well.

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  20. most of these ftms girls start out with the whole "i'm a genderqueer special snowflake" thing. then they get the psychopath power trip of male privilege their deception grants them. it's all downhill from there.

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  21. I've met one blind mtf.
    I'd also like to say that i think a stereotype of transwomen is that they are mainly non-white. There's the stereotype that all transwomen are black or hispanic sex workers.

    I'd say that i actually know more trans people of color than i do white trans folk.

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  22. Jeez Dirt, it seems like you're being disproven left and right these days. Perhaps you should retire from being a bigot while you are ahead.

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  23. Dirt can i just ask why you target only they "white" population?

    Do you have some sort of fear of "white men"?

    I have seen MANY MANY MANY different classes/ethnic/race and what ever else there is, yet you ONLY post images of "white" YOUNG people there is more than enough access to all different groups.. i dont think u "hate" the male medical system, i think you have or do feel victimised by the "WHITE MALE" population that acording to you have more socitial power.

    correct me if im wrong but currently the USA has a 'black muslim' presidant?

    yet you still post NOTHING on any of that

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  24. Hmm seems some are having a problem with understanding the meaning of disproportionate. Very telling I must say.

    dirt

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  25. "correct me if im wrong but currently the USA has a 'black muslim' presidant"

    Black, yes.. Muslim is speculation.. That is about as off to the left as this Fridays Topic..

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  26. Here is Greta again. As a disabled woman, it makes me sick to see ftm-people asking for money on youtube to get a tiny little bit of fat removed in a "revision surgery" after their "top" surgery.
    Especially in the USA, that money should be donated to people who have life-threatening problems and no health insurance.
    I think the reason why people like me do not even consider "transitioning" is because we have had more than enough experience with surgeries, hospitals, dependencies on medications etc.

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  27. Damned near everybody has had all of those things, Greta. Plastic surgeons can rake in so much cash that it is ridiculous. These are people trying to beautify their bodies with surgery, not live their lives the way they see fit.

    Take a look at how many people are dependent on blood pressure medication, for instance. A completely preventable issue, yet people care more about the tens (or hundreds) of thousands of transsexuals than they do about the millions who could prevent and often die from hypertension (including complications, like smoking).

    Some lesbians are way overweight, so I can't imagine them escaping those health problems. But it's all the transsexuals' faults that they cannot adhere to skinnier standards of beauty, of course...

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  28. "Take a look at how many people are dependent on blood pressure medication, for instance. A completely preventable issue, yet people care more about the tens (or hundreds) of thousands of transsexuals than they do about the millions who could prevent and often die from hypertension (including complications, like smoking)."

    Well to start with blood medication is the proscribed scientically verified way to control high blood pressure(which by the way has a strong genetic componant) as opposed to reassignment surgery and lifelong dependence on "T" which is not a proven solution the issue of gender dysphoria.(Which itself is not proven to have a physical cause).

    "Some lesbians are way overweight, so I can't imagine them escaping those health problems. But it's all the transsexuals' faults that they cannot adhere to skinnier standards of beauty, of course..."

    Transitioners do adhere to gender streotypes, hence their unending need to subject themselves to "revisions"

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  29. [Well to start with blood medication is the proscribed scientically verified way to control high blood pressure(which by the way has a strong genetic componant)...]

    "Obesity can increase the risk of hypertension to fivefold as compared with normal weight, and up to two-thirds of hypertension cases can be attributed to excess weight.[16] More than 85% of cases occur in those with a Body mass index greater than 25.[16]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_hypertension

    Contrary to popular belief, the majority of transsexuals are *not* overweight in comparison to the US population. I myself lost 50-60 pounds on hormone therapy, which put me in the normal weight range. You only have to look around YouTube to see that many transsexuals are not overweight, as well. It seems we are healthier than the general population. Go figure.

    [...as opposed to reassignment surgery and lifelong dependence on "T" which is not a proven solution the issue of gender dysphoria.]

    You sure you want to make that statement when so many trained professionals disagree with you?

    "The change also makes it possible for individuals who have successfully transitioned to 'lose' the diagnosis after satisfactory treatment."

    My, look at that proposed DSM-V revision there. That means when it comes out, you are clinically wrong from then on.

    I am sure I could find many a quote from biologists, doctors, and psychologists alike who also disagree with your assessment of things. Maybe you should get a better hobby than screwing with a minority over your personal opinions, Canadian.

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  30. Based on every trans narrative on the web, its obvious that drugging and mutilating women doesnt solve their dysphoria.

    It may temporarily alleviate it during the early changes of the drugging/mutilation, but once the trans high wears off, it always comes right back again.

    Too bad the male medical machine wasnt interested in actually helping women instead of making money off our backs and in efforts to keep us confined to the small spaces it calls man/woman.

    dirt

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  31. How do you believe you are helping any more than the 'male medical machine', Dirt?

    When you deny that there are natural-born transsexuals (as they do, I might point out), you are making this out as something that anybody can do by proxy.

    That is to say that in your opinion, this is a causal and not a birth condition. That is shooting yourself in the foot, if your intent is that of having less transitioners.

    Seriously, we do not want more of these kinds of 'transsexuals'. Please stop with your denial.

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  32. these trannys are embarrassing

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  33. @ anon February 13, 2011 1:30 AM

    you embarrass your self. im sorry but in my PERSONAL oppionion this bull shit that Dirt is talking about is exactly that bullshit, im sorry dirt but non of you info can be proven you do not know every women or man or anyone in between, and its people like you that give men 'more power' your to busy creating your little 'cult' to see the damage you are causing that women over HISTORY had created for you, and yes posting childrens pictures on here is explioting them, it makes you no better then a preditor, OHHHH wait you are a preditor, you are prying on children and young people you are stalking and harrassing them, for all i know you are abusing them also, look at your self your no better then the average peadophile yes you make me sick, yes you should be ashamed to call your self a women.

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  34. to anon at 4:14 PM -

    "Damned near everybody has had all of those things, Greta."
    You should read the postings carefully before writing. Or do you really want to tell me that nearly everybody has had at least 3 open heart surgeries and is dependent on life-prolonging medication?

    My basic point is that people who have had an extensive medical history and gender identity struggles are more likely to be skeptical about questionable medical procederes. That is why you have everybody represented under the homosexual umbrella but not under the transsexual umbrella.

    Greta

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  35. This is actually an interesting topic, but sadly as with so much in the trans community there are no real studies on economics or disabilities within the trans communities.

    If you think about it though, who would mostly have access to the internet and a video camera? From the socio-economic studies out there it would be white, middle to upper class, as there is still a problem with internet access to the lower classes and minorities.

    Then go one step further and look at who uses the internet more in a social setting where such videos would be posted.

    This may be a reason why you predominately see white middle to upper class teens, who seem to have no visible disabilities.

    A friend of mine and I had a similar discussion on being Gay/Lesbian and mentally challenged. I've never met anyone in any situation or venue that was Gay/Lesbian and mentally challenged. While I am sure they are out there, I've just never met or seen someone who is.

    It does not mean that it doesn't happen, it means that in all honesty they may not be in the medium to expose themselves as say someone who was non handicapped. I think this can also be said for the trans community.

    Another misnomer on the Trans community is that they are all white upper class teens begging for money on youtube, because Mommy and Daddy won't give their spoiled asses what they want. AND while I am sure some of that happens, simple fact is that I have met many who are just barely getting by, no different from everyone else in this economy.

    My point: This phenomenon for whatever the reasons it exists, goes across many socio-economic lines. In that respect I would imagine it also would go across many disability lines, just as I know being Gay/Lesbian does even if "I" have never seen it.

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  36. @Anon February 12, 2011 9:22 PM

    "You sure you want to make that statement when so many trained professionals disagree with you?

    "The change also makes it possible for individuals who have successfully transitioned to 'lose' the diagnosis after satisfactory treatment."

    My, look at that proposed DSM-V revision there. That means when it comes out, you are clinically wrong from then on."

    I am amused at your trust in the experts who in the past have advocated the use of lobotomies and were all in agreement that homosexuality was a mental illness.
    As I have said in other threads pyschology and psychriatry are rife with such dubious theories and treatments, which ended up being disproven and discredited at a later date. All of the studies I have seen that attempt to make a link between transsexuality and the brain have not had samples sizes larger then 10. I for one, am not willing to be sanguine about people taking hormones and altering their bodies when no physical link has been established.

    Going back to the blood pressure issue, I am not really sure what point you are trying to make and until it can be conclusively shown that transgenderism has a physical componant and is not strictly psycological your attempts to compare transgenderism to actual physical illnesses will be in vain.

    In regard to obsesity and blood pressue, note I said strong genetic COMPONANT, and I did not discount lifestyle. I know many people with high blood pressure who are not obese, my mother and my sister being prime examples. I sited the genetic componant to counter the arguement that high blood pressure was soley a result of lifestyle, but good try anyway.

    In regard to transgenders there is a fundemental difference between them and those that take drugs for physical illness. Transgenders rely on hormones to express what they feel is their true identity, while those with a physical condition take the medication to deal with their illness and that is a huge distinction.

    Do transgenders not appreciate the irony of taking an outside agent in order to maintain their true identity?

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  37. @Canadian,

    Many trans actually take pride in the outside agents utilized to achieve their "identities". There is video after video made by transmen promoting which doctors they use for their drugging/mutilations.

    Regarding the original topic here Canadian, what do you think about the TOTAL lack of answers regarding why there isnt an equal amount of blind transmen if any?

    Not surprisingly we see the same lack of number in every body disorder listed in the DSM with relation to the blind, which no doubt illustrates body/gender disorders ARE disorders created by visual cues and straight jackets put on and then enforced by society.

    dirt

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  38. When I started Testosterone I had high blood pressure and pre-diabetes. Now that I have en on T since July 2009 I am off of my blood pressure medicine and high blood sugar medicine...Hmmmmm, amazing! I am in better health now than I have ever been in my life!
    I am in perfect health compared to what I was in pre-T. And being on T in bad for me how? No health problems here..they have gone away so far. Not so bad considering all the so called "health risks" that these followers talk about. Led just like sheep to the slaughter...I call them sheeple!

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  39. Here is an awesome blog that I have been following:
    http://divergence-drawnapart.blogspot.com/

    She has a really good head on her shoulders and makes a whole lot more sense than the crap I have seen posted lately. It's a must read for sure!!

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  40. I know a blind trans man. He is a wonderful person and a joy to be around. He has the most awesome personality.

    I also know a deaf trans woman who donates her time at a local soup kitchen. Since I am a student of sign language I have gotten to know her very well. She is a very respected woman in the community. Loved by everyone.

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  41. @Canadian

    "I am amused at your trust in the experts who in the past have advocated the use of lobotomies and were all in agreement that homosexuality was a mental illness."

    I agree with you. Some of the "experts" also thought homosexuality had physical causes. Around 1920, in Germany, there were "experts" like Eugen Steinach who tried to "cure" homosexual men through methods like xenotransplantation of testicles from chimpanzees. Of course the "experts" found lots of willing test people because of the social pressure and discrimination that homosexual men faced. That is really sad. At this time the first attempts at "sex-changes" were also made.
    Greta

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  42. @ Dirt:

    "The odds of one being both trans and blind are 0.032%."

    Sorry that is 0.00032% chance of being both blind and trans.

    How is that not a direct response to your question about proportionality? Those are long odds indeed.

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  43. Same old b.s. from you. Obviously you missed the disproportionate number of coloured girls transitioning these days.

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  44. "most of these ftms girls start out with the whole "i'm a genderqueer special snowflake" thing. then they get the psychopath power trip of male privilege their deception grants them. it's all downhill from there."

    And how does this have anything to do with the topic of discussion?
    Lol a bitter and envious person who just couldnt help contain the venom inside.

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  45. Dirt can i just ask why you target only they "white" population?

    Do you have some sort of fear of "white men"?

    Yeah she does, she is power hungry and white men are at the top of the social ladder with the most power in the world. she fears seing white females joining in and grabbing some of that white men power.

    She is really not that interested in black FTMs or other races, because herself as a white woman she is above them in the social ladder as far as she is concerned. lets face it other races do not have that much special status, even black men despite their strides in sports, music are still struggling as a social class. She is threatened by the white FTMs that are going to be above her in the social ladder, as white males. This is what this is all about, all these FTM hate, its about male privilege, specifically white male privilege and bitterness about those who acquire it. Don't be fooled by her "concern" over health risks, or other pathetic excuses.

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  46. And still no answer to the topic question! Not that I'm surprised, the answer is too troubling to already fragile minds. Very sad indeed.

    dirt

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  47. Oh god I know of a legally blind FTM who used to make youtube videos and put transition photos online. The really sad thing about that case is that he can't see how truly horrible and butchered his chest surgery turned out. It really looks awful yet all these trans guys are like yeah right on man looks great. I think this kid's surgeon must have been blind as well. It's truly a sad case. Maybe someone finally informed him because when I went looking, he's removed all the transition related vids and photos.

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  48. He probably removed his videos because of being ridiculed and made fun of by ignorant ass people.

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  49. @Dirt, 5:21

    So, you're just not reading the responses? Like that one that says the odds of being both blind and trans are 0.00032%? What about the Anons who said they personally know blind trans people? Maybe you're the one here who is blind.

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  50. Oh I see, because a disordered kid declares she "knows" a blind trans person I'm suppose to scrap the fact that there isnt a single blind trans group in existence. Right! Sometimes the absence of proof is all the proof one needs.

    dirt

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  51. Here is a yahoo group for deaf transsexuals.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TransDeaf/

    Yes, there are deaf as well as blind transsexuals!

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  52. http://www.youtube.com/user/DeafBetty

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  53. I am blind and trans.

    That is all.

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  54. "Oh I see, because a disordered kid declares she "knows" a blind trans person I'm suppose to scrap the fact that there isnt a single blind trans group in existence"

    Why do you assume that blind trans folks feel the need to have a group to connect with other blind trans people? As a blind trans person, I don't frequently get together (in person or on the internet) with other blind people, trans or not. And I find being blind and being trans have little relevance to each other, anyway.

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  55. Trans people come in all shapes, sizes, races, and religions. Same thing as gays and lesbians.

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  56. "And still no answer to the topic question! Not that I'm surprised, the answer is too troubling to already fragile minds. Very sad indeed.

    dirt"

    Whatever you know i hit a spot. I could answer your question, but why even try, you are hell bend on attacking the white FTM population.You are not looking for my answer, you are looking for an answer that agrees with you. An answer that validate your biased observations or whatever.

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  57. I agree with Anon @7:26 PM...
    No answer will be good enough when you are hell bent on attacking white FTM's..FTM's period as a matter of fact.

    I just think you are not only against men in general (FTM's included) but you are bigoted against the on-white population. Hell, I know a whole lot of African American and Hispanic FTM's. Hell my step-Sister is a trans woman. I also know a blind FTM that goes to the same endocrinologist that I go to. We talked at my last appt. while I was waiting to be called in.

    Being trans knows no race, religious background, social status, or disabled or not. It's not just something that white folks go through.

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  58. were you trying to prove the point that we can't be trans if we can't "see" ourselves?

    Fail.

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  59. I question the question here, because it seems to want to make the assumption that people who are blind or deaf are unable to consume social information as they grow up. In today's world, if that is true, the person is not getting the services and assistance they require and that is bad news.

    That said, this is a moot point for proving or disproving any innate theory of transsexuality. *I will let you all know a solid answer as soon as the world of Psychology has a better understanding of the brain as to really map this out though. Until then I will return to reading these blogs and trying to form some understanding of transsexuality and combating anything its "followers" do to undermine the liberation of women from objectified expectations. Ta ta.

    * = Myself and/or you may be dead by this time.

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  60. People don't choose to be trans just like people don't choose to be gay.

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  61. Next time someone breaks their leg, send them to Dr. Dirt!


    The male medical machine is the devil!

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