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Monday, November 22, 2010

Topics for Topics Tuesday

Looking for topics for Topics Tuesday tomorrow. Post a topic you would like to be discussed tomorrow. I will choose from a topic you suggested here.

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  1. Per my last comment in the other thread, could you start dropping links to FEMALE lawyers, preferably the kind who do class action lawsuits? Obviously this new source of income for them hasn't occurred to them yet. Here's the pertinent bit, so nobody has to hunt for it:

    "Honestly, the medical community is NEGLIGENT and ripe for a major class action lawsuit. I've said it before, I will say it again: For any therapist to skip over the feminist analyist of gender deconstruction as it relates to sexism, is NEGLIGENT. The assumption is that if someone feels like expressing a trait currently coded masculine then magically they must be a boy. It doesn't occur to the therapist that the biological female in front of them is merely responding to PEER PRESSURE to conform to society's expectation that only boys are allowed to express certain traits."

    Really, a good lawyer would make mincemeat out of the doctors -- and without much effort.

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  2. I meant "trackbacks", so the lawyers would see your relevant blog topics. Once the lawyers smell money and understand what legal angle to pursue, transgenderism is over.

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  3. Male lawyers who have been known to take up feminist issues would also make good linkage.

    And apologies for serial commenting.

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  4. I'd like to see a honest discussion on autogynephilia for once, though I think that would be quite impossible. Detransition too.

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  5. @ m Andrea: Nope.

    First of all, a "feminist analysis of gender" is not part of the standards of care. If it's not an accepted medical practice, you can't sue because it wasn't done to you. That's like suing your cardiologist for not prescribing acupuncture.

    Secondly, a good lawyer would NOT make mincemeat out of therapists and doctors. Medical malpractice is one of the hardest kinds of lawsuits to win, because all the docs and therapists will back each other up. You'd need docs and therapists as expert witnesses who could say that the treatment was not within the generally accepted standards of care, which, again, don't include a "feminist analysis of gender deconstruction as it relates to sexism."

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  6. I'd like to see more accounts of detransitioning, as well as more proof that all transmen end up looking like fat middle aged men. Dirt has failed to provide much more than anecdotal evidence on that count.

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  7. I would appreciate more in depth, personal posts, or discussions, about what it means or how it feels to feel female. Specifically butch and female. Not only because I don't have an idea of what that feels like, but I because I truly believe that you will reach more people by being a positive example of a butch who has conquered body dysphoria and feels female. Speaking personal truth is always more powerful than rhetoric. When you go off on these paranoid diatribes, calling transition suicide, and your followers call us zombies and perpetrators, it only makes you look very silly and discredits you. Then your more thoughtful writings are easier to ignore. You wanna really reach people? Shine a good light on yourself. You won't need to piss on anybody else to do that.

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  8. I'd LOVE to have some kind of discussion regarding MTF transpeople. I'd like to see them deconstructed and analyzed in the same way you have done for FTMs.

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  9. i would like you to do a topic on
    being butch, in the work place , how it was at school for you, how you're veiwed in society, maybe just a quick collab of all of those, and how you were veiwed, and treated, affected who you became as an adult, and or who you were in various stages of your life.
    Did these percptions harden you, make you stronger, make your more open to other diffrences?


    I know there are alot of other great idea's here, but im very curious about the butch lifestyle

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  10. Anon @ 1:39:
    There is no such thing as "feeling" female or male. That would be like "feeling" left handed or "feeling" brown-haired.

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  11. @Anon at 1:39. There's no contradiction between "speaking personal truth" and drawing logical conclusions from that personal truth. That may include some conclusions you don't like. However, I see no reason why Dirt or anyone else should stop voicing an opinion just to please you.

    As for what it "means to be female," or to "feel female," it means you have a female body, full stop. There's no deep meaning to it. I hate to break it to you, but the fact that you don't find your menses particularly interesting, or feel deeply connected to the lunar cycle, and so on and so forth, does not mean you're a dude.

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  12. @331 Wolf. Speaking only for myself, society views me as butch, and treats me differently because of that, but I certainly don't have a "lifestyle." I'm just me.

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  13. I'm with blues traveller, a discussion of MTFs, esp, autogynephiles, and about how their need to invade and control females, female space etc, is really an extension of rape culture. How much more of a rap is it than to say that you as a man are MORE woman than we are, the way MTFs seem compelled to do. I wonder, is this at all connected with male OB/GYNs need to assault, control and harm birthing women? So many ways to rape a woman!

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  14. In my observation of the current youth culture, the boys aren't jumping on an MTF bandwagon. It's not a trendy thing to do for boys- most aren't going in for sex changes. A few of the boys might put on some glitter like Johnny Weir or Prince Poppycock, or even dress up in drag to look like Lady Gaga, but I just don't see any huge numbers of boys going in for hormones or surgery. If I had a crossdressing teen son, I really wouldn't care. Really it is the medicalization of identity and the de-valuing of femaleness that I have an issue with, personally.

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  15. Dirt,
    I have watched trannytrolls thinking that they can going the military after transition....also (Haydenshyboi) cant transition because she is in the military. So the topic I think should be brought up is Military :) xo
    Femmemystique

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  16. I would like to see more on Butch or Femme/Butch relationships. Not only because I like your writing on that but also this is basically the only blog I read anymore and I'm looking for those sort of more positive, directed things, vs the very negative stuff posted here by some of your many anony-visitors lately. There's no other blog, really, that's talking about Butches and Femmes from a lesbian, non-trans, non-queer POV it seems like.

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  17. Maybe something about how ftms cannot ever truly love women after wha they've done, even if they think they do.

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  18. @ DM

    That's because biomen have gender euphoria.

    FTMs only help to increase this feeling of superiority in biomen because they see all these women desperate to demolish everything female about themselves in order o be somehing that they can never be.

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  19. Alexander (same one again)November 23, 2010 at 4:00 AM

    I'd be really interested in something about overcoming the dysphoria you have (I believe) mentioned experiencing as a butch, leading into a discussion on people's experiences of body dysphoria, whether transitioning, butch females, or something else entirely.

    I think it would be helpful for the people you intend to help - the younger confused part of the community.

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  20. How about you just STFU for a day.

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  21. mAndrea,

    We've already seen in the last few years quite a few cases of those who transitioned successfully suing the medical community. But clearly in next 10 years the cases are going to skyrocket, particularly among the trans trenders. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the trans trenders will be the trans group that breaks the trans myth and changes how the medical community treats this disorder.

    dirt

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  22. @Anon at 7:57,

    Is someone making you read this blog at gun point? You wouldnt be here day in day out if you werent actually interested in whats said here.

    dirt

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  23. Thanks for the opportunity to get educated. I didn't realize how ignorant I truly am until I visited your blog and tried to decipher what I was reading. Forgive me if I unintentionally offend anyone for using labels that may be deemed derogatory. When I was a child, gay meant homosexual and lesbian was for females, dyke or butch meant being more masculine. The term Faggot was used for a gay man. I had no idea about different subjects or terminology until I viewed your page today. Thank you for voicing your knowledge.
    If more people understood some of the forum here, there would be less ignorance in the world today. Kudos for having superior writing skills. It was interesting reading.

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  24. To the person who claims to be a lawyer: First of all, I doubt if you are indeed a lawyer and I doubt if you know any personally. Because lawyers, while all individuals with their own personality, do tend to have a similarily EDUCATED style when discussing law.

    Secondly. A class action lawsuit (a specific legal term you lack knowledge of) is DESIGNED to handle just these sorts of situations, where an entire industry is NEGLIGENT (again, another legal term).

    One individual lawsuit against one individual doctor or therapist, is only saying that the one individual medical professional is behaving inappropriatedly according to the CURRENT standards of medical care. An individual lawsuit makes zero judgement regarding the current standards, only that one particular professional violated those standards. A class-action lawsuit, othoh, is an entirely different breed of predator. A class action lawsuit results in industry wide changes to the standards of care which are used by the entire industry, with one suit. Even the possibility of one is enough to get the very concerned attention of EVERYBODY within the medical community (and could very well be the impetus behind the proposed changes to the new DSM-V but let's make sure).

    One of the most well-known class action lawsuit is explored in the film Erin Brockovich. The film is a biopic detailing the class action suit on behalf of the residents of Hinkley, California. They sued Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E) for lying about using the chemical hexavalent chromium, which then seeped into the ground water and contaminated the water supply. Many residents of Hinkley then became ill with cancer, or had fertility problems. As well, animals living in the small town died quickly.

    The suit’s lawyer Ed Masry was able to establish that PG&E knew about the situation and deliberately risked the lives of those living near the power plants by failing to warn the residents. Erin Brockovich, played by Julia Roberts in the film, extensively researched and documented the damages caused to Hinkley residents. Her dedication helped secure the successful verdict against PG&E. Ed Masry chose directed mediation for the class action lawsuit, meaning those severely affected by exposure to chromium were given immediate monetary relief.

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-class-action-lawsuit.htm

    In the above example, the class-action was a group of people against one company. However, a class-action is also defined as one person against an entire industry. In THIS particular case, the defendants would be the American Psychiatric Association -- an absolute sitting duck in legal terms, since they can't just pack up their bags and declare bankruptcy or say they're going to conduct business under a new business name. The grounds, of course, would be the gross harm caused by improper standards of diagnosis.

    Again, we get even one class-action lawyer involved, and transgenderism is OVER.

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  25. 'Course, othoh Dirt, I could just contact a class-action lawyer myself instead of trying to get you to do it. lol :)

    I think this is something that would really appeal to a certain type of lawyer, and even a phone call from one to the American Psychiatric Association would make the APA sweat bullets.

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