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Tuesday, November 2, 2010

An EXTRA Dirt Open Day

In light of so many feeling the need to vent here, I will open up this post for comments. I do ask that you do not spam and even if you are feeling really angry at me or what I post, please think about what you write before you set your thoughts/feelings down.

dirt

PS Can those commenting PLEASE use at least a letter or a symbol for your name in order to make it easier for me/folks to respond to each other.
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  1. I really do not agree with much of what you spew on your blogs. I don't condone any hate speech of any kind towards any community or group.

    That being said, I don't believe testosterone is right to give to young these young men. I came out as a 'bisexual trans-man' about seven years ago, I have dated men and women and feel most comfortable going by male pronouns, always have.

    This identity however does not lead me to the desire to severely deteriorate my health. I won't say anything against those who need it, those that feel the physical defines them. That they have to change for 'society's standards' of what a 'real' masculine male is. But I already know I'm a male-brained-female-bodied individual. Why would I need to convince anyone else, if myself, and those close to me already see it? Being trans, and living in a physical 'female body' has brought SO many open-minded people into my life. I would not exchange being a typical biological male or a straight female for the understanding I've learned AND received in my lifetime. I am happy with who I am.

    Though I do see an overwhelming ftm trend in the manga, yaoi, gay euphoria areas, etc, I just wish you wouldn't be so quick to jump on another persons decision to live life the way they feel most comfortable.


    -Ave

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  2. I think it is cool that you leave open spaces here for people to share how they feel about your topics, no matter if they agree with you are not. I really am sorry that there are some within the trans community that post hurtful/hateful comments to you.

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  3. You're quite hateful. When did you chose to be a butch dyke? Really, I'm curious. You're truly great at generalizing the trans community. We're all different, we all have different stories. Not all of us have surgery, not all of us go on hormones. Not all of us even identified as butch women or lesbian. Why don't you educate yourself some more before spewing more unnecessary hatred? I can tell you, it's not an easy decision. It's not an easy life, either. Just like, I'm sure your life as a hateful butch dyke isn't easy living in whatever shithole you live in. You're a bigot. Plain and simple. What happened to make you hate transmen so much? Why don't you stand with fellow queers, instead of fighting against us? There is so much hate, why add to it? Also, stop posting pictures without permission and stop using "facts" that are actually just your narrow opinions.

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  4. It sad that society's standards push a butch dyke to attack her own LGBT because they can't tell the difference between the two.you are a very proud butch dyke and I am a very proud FTM.why do you shoot your hatred at us when we should all be fighting ignorance together?You are you and I am me so why does my life affect yours so much?I just feel maybe if you just stop attacking ppl on who they are and maybe express what a Butch Dyke is so you wont feel your race is dying out.show us who you are stop painting false pictures of a group that your not apart of."IN truth I feel you have had a hard life and that's all this comes from."you can blame society's standards that FTM'S exsist but just because a crazy person gets on tv and yells their thoughts doesn't make them facts.

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  5. What's your opinion of Chaz Bono?

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  6. Oh god, but she is not attacking people :
    *you will become bald sooner or later,
    *you will have liver cancer or fibro,
    *you will look ugly in your 30's with your beard and your baldness and much older than your age,
    *you don't pass as male at all with your top surgeries scars and women curves whatever the work-out plan...
    *The top surgeries scars look like butchery.
    *You look like circus freak,

    And yes we are sorry for you : it is not our fault if you get fooled by greedy surgeons ...We are sorry you look like an experiment but you have chosen this journey.

    What do you expect from us ? Do you expect us to lie to you ? To tell you baldness is pretty, that we like facial hair Bin Laden stylie ?

    We can't : we are lesbians and we don't date male and we dont want them in our spaces...
    Period.

    The T has nothing to do with the LGB, okay ? We don't belong to the same community...Is it clear ?

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  7. How much can you bench press?

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  8. "Not all of us have surgery, not all of us go on hormones." In other words, you think you're a dude because you're not a stereotypical woman. Don't act all surprised because someone calls bullshit on that.

    "Why don't you stand with fellow queers, instead of fighting against us? There is so much hate, why add to it?" What makes you think anyone should consider themself your fellow "queer"? Calling yourself "queer" is for people who are either stuck in the early nineties, or stuck in a teenage mentality.

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  9. Anonymous.. I have a friend who was bald and had a face full of hair from age 17, biological male. Alot of it has to do with genetics. Some men become bald, some do not. Alot of men are hairy, some are not.

    There are rarely, RARELY any ftm who are stealth that have ANY trouble passing. It's never a question unless you know. Such hate in our community when there's already enough of it out there..

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  10. The feedback that Dirt is getting reminds me of alcoholics or drug abusers being confronted about their drinking and drugging. Does the alcoholic want to be confronted about their drinking? No. They'll get mad and say F You, it's my life and I can do what I want, why do you care, etc. But the person who confronts the behavior is doing them a favor. It might make them take a look at what they are doing to themselves and to others around them.

    I think in general, sometimes we are all just too nice and polite when it comes to confronting the destructive behaviors of our friends and family. Sometimes people get out of a bad relationship or get into recovery and say "Why didn't anyone tell me what I was getting myself into? Did they not care, or were they just too afraid to tell me what they thought?"

    I applaud Dirt's courage for saying what she thinks and confronting the destruction that is going on in our community. Sometimes you have to be really direct to get people's attention. Sometimes that's the only way they'll listen.

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  11. It is not hate moron : you want me to lie about what my eyes see. What my eyes see everyday on Youtube is women with awful scars, beard and baldness who pretend to look like male whereas they look like experiment freak or an halloween nightmare...I am sorry this is what I see.

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  12. "I don't condone any hate speech of any kind towards any community or group." Suggesting that FTMs are motivated by internalized sexism is not hate speech. Pointing out that they usually look terrible is also not hate speech. Also, "communities" and "groups" are not exempt from criticism just because they're "communities" and "groups." Those are not magical "HANDS OFF I'M AN OPPRESSED MINORITY" designations.

    "But I already know I'm a male-brained-female-bodied individual." No one has actually proved the existence of male and female brains. The most anyone has come up with are some ambiguous possible differences, which get blown out of proportion in the popular media. Null findings are actually more common, but you never hear about this because it doesn't make an exciting headline.

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  13. Before claiming any belongness to the LGB community, before invading our LGB centers, our L and G bars, our L&G student affair, our W dormitories etc... (cf numerous articles made by Dirt on this topic)..., what on earth do you bring to us the G, the L and the B, the older members of this community ? What do you bring to LGB older members who fighted to create all those spaces and tenure ?

    Nothing...

    So do not expect any support from us...

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  14. It's not about how much you can bench press, or any kind of competition between Butch and FtM. I know the truth hurts, but FtM`s have big insecurities and lots of problems/delusions otherwise they wouldn't opt for permenantly mangling themselves, a lifetime of dependancy on taking hormones, kidding themselves that they are men, etc. It's not just a basic plastic surgery.

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  15. Why is there so much hate in the world? As Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?" We are here for a moment. After I die and after you die our opinions are not going to matter. Why not just let people live how they want to live and experience life however they want to experience it? Why are you devoting your life to watching transgender youtube videos and being AGAINST something? If its really in our nature to fight then every individual should fight FOR something. Fight for freedom of expression and diversity. Diversity makes the world go round.

    There is absolutely nothing that can change your opinion of trans people but why are you so obsessed with them? Go outside and enjoy your existence as you and enjoy the other people that exist at the same moment in time as you. Why do we have to waste so much time judging each other and fighting with negative opinions of one another? It's stupid. If transition makes someone happy and makes someone want to be apart of society and live their life then so be it. If someone is a lesbian and wants to love another woman and have the right to marry that person because she loves her then SO BE IT.

    At the end of the day everyone who fights for (or against... I guess) something finds the strength to fight because of something sensitive inside of them. The trans men who say negative things about you and say they hope you die or whatever are only saying that because you are intentionally hurting their feelings. It's retaliation because of sensitivity. You are criticizing them because there is something sensitive inside of you that feels betrayed by them or something. I'm not going to make assumptions because I don't know you. All I'm trying to say is that we are her for a very short amount of time and we all want to live as who we are and however makes us happy.

    I disagree with your opinions but I respect you because life isn't worth hating someone or their life style.

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  16. The reason why we fight against T is because they try to screw the rest of the LGB community by focusing all the resources, budget and spaces for themselves whereas their number is peanuts compared to lesbians, gay and bisexual people. In a world of economic crisis, if I have a few $ or a limited number of volonteers, I prefer to have them doing advocacy for gay marriage or fighting aids risky behavior that to focus on having free top surgeries from health care...
    Trans people are undermining the rest of the community policy by stealing our budget, ressources, media attention and energy...

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  17. LGBT IS HOW IT IS AND GOING TO BE DIRT I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE YOU ON IN A BOXING RING OF KNOWLEDGE BUT THEN AGAIN YOU WOULD NEED A BRAIN FIRST.

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  18. I am neither a butch lesbian, or a trans guy. I am merely an outside looking in (I don't even have any Trans or Butch friends).

    I just want to point out, as I'm sure you've read before, that it's interesting that your view of Trans as almost being a threat to the Butch community gives you a reason to use your free speech AGAINST Trans people. How about, instead, you use it to promotes the benefits of being Butch, and just assume a neutral view of Trans people. Because they are two very different things.
    Personally, I see how there might be some Butch women who could be pressured or convinced into transitioning. But it's not like a lot of thought doesn't go into the decision. Being Trans can be as much if not more difficult than being gay/lesbian, as you are not just deviating from the 'sexual norm', but also from you bio gender, something which most people view as unchangeable. So why would someone transition just because "it's the thing to do" or "it'll be easier". Chances are, these people are still in the process of accepting what is really the case, that they are mentally the opposite gender.

    So I implore you, while I fully support you right to free speech, and most of your postings are well reasoned, perhaps turning your arguments away from the criticizing of Trans people and moving towards highlighting the positives in the Butch lifestyle would help expand the discussion of gender in a positive light, rather than people immediately taking a side whether or not Trans or Butch is the 'right answer'.

    Thank you for your time.

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  19. "There are rarely, RARELY any ftm who are stealth that have ANY trouble passing." You must not live in San Francisco. To anyone used to seeing them, FTMs look like FTMs.

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  20. You can usually spot an FtM a mile a way in Berlin as well.

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  21. if FTM are passing, why do they need to drag ?

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  22. Sry, but to the Anonymous who says that Trans are taking resources away from the 'LBG' fight, open your eyes. Your comments are no better than those people who say that Gay Marriage is infringing upon Traditional Marriage. Trans people have their own organizations and their own support groups, just as L, G, and B have theirs as well. So get off your high horse, and keep in mind that most Trans people are, right now, just trying to get public acceptance. And it's people like you who make that fight all the more difficult, especially since as a member of the LGBT community, you should know what it is like to be in a minority.

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  23. You can usually spot an FtM a mile away on a beach too ;o) Follow the scars !

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  24. I THINK IT FUNNY THAT DIRT PUTS THIS POST UP HERE AND THEN RESPONDS UNDER AN ANONYMOUS NAME

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  25. tried to post this and will try one more time.

    Dirt, I am not trans, but I don't appreciate what you are doing here. Your opinions would be one thing, as you are entitled to them..

    You are attempting to make your case against ALL trans people by using a video you found of ONE trans person getting it on online. (Your Yesterdays Entry)That is like clumping ALL lesbians into one bowl because of the actions of ONE lesbian. or.. or.. or..

    You are a feminist seperatist and that is your right. For those who do not know feminist seperatists absolutely HATE MEN and set their lives up for it to be Men Free.

    From what I have found online so far your beef is because the Womens Festival used to be 100% women and you are angry because they are allowing trans people to attend. Your beef should be with the Michigan Womens Festival and not attacking people you do not know.

    MY BEEF with you is it is people like you with such lousy boundaries that do not respect others material online. MY BEEF with you is you are deliberately potentially placing people in harms way.

    I don't think a person posting here has an issue with your opinions. They just want you to discontinue using your right click button and screen captures on their material.

    I actually agree with you on keeping the womens festivals women. But address this for what it is and quit taking it out on people by exploiting them with their material they are using in a space they have control over. I bet not one person you are posting their pics of have ever been to the womens festivals or would want to go to the womens festivals.

    I am not a feminist seperatist and have a very dear friend who is. Even she does not think you taking people's peoples photos and portions of their videos is right. She says what happens when the day comes you decide Butch Lesbianism is wrong and you turn around and use the same people who have supported you. She has a point. Poor boundaries are poor boundaries.

    These trans people and those of us who are supporting them on this only want you to stop misusing their material under the guise of teaching.. You are using their material as an assault rifle and you know it. You are placing these people in grave danger and you know it. YOU are EXPLOITING THEM because of your hatred towards men and your anger.

    So if you don't want to spend time with men, why are you vesting so much time into this?

    Last, THIS is about POWER & CONTROL. You know they don't have the resources to go after you. Make no mistake YOU are enjoying the POWER & CONTROL. What a false sense of power and sense of self.

    Instead of attacking people who have not done anything to you prior to you placing them in harms way, why don't you post the email addresses of the cordinators of these festivals and put the responsibility where this belongs? OR put your energy into starting a male free festival and let the existing festivals run theirs the way they want?

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  26. "Trans people have their own organizations and their own support groups,"

    Are you kidding me ? Do you think we are candid ? Do you think lesbians have no brain ? Read those 2 articles to see how a famous transguy has stolen a job position to a woman and has managed to remove any lesbo representation for the students : http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/search/label/Vanderbuilt%20University

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  27. I'd be interested in reading some research about brain sex differences (either for or against it). Someone has anything?

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  28. 'Why is there so much hate in the world? As Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?"' Dumb, and not particularly relevant.

    "Why are you devoting your life to watching transgender youtube videos and being AGAINST something?" 1) Making a couple blog posts a week is not exactly a full-time job. 2) Being an adult sometimes means being AGAINST things.

    "Fight for freedom of expression and diversity. Diversity makes the world go round." 1) You apparently want to shut down Dirt's freedom to express an opinion you don't like. 2) Diversity does not make the world go round. That's just silly. 3) Diversity, in and of itself, is not a value. In a diverse world, you still have to make up your mind whether the different things that make up that diversity are good, bad, or neutral.

    "I'm not going to make assumptions because I don't know you." Your entire post makes assumptions right and left.

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  29. "Sry, but to the Anonymous who says that Trans are taking resources away from the 'LBG' fight, open your eyes. Your comments are no better than those people who say that Gay Marriage is infringing upon Traditional Marriage." False analogy and you know it. Marriage is not a finite resource. Time and money are.

    The National Center for Lesbian Rights devotes a disproportionate amount of time and money to trans issues these days.

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  30. "The National Center for Lesbian Rights devotes a disproportionate amount of time and money to trans issues these days."

    It is crazy : a lesbian center is for women not male ...

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  31. The reason why trans want Dirt to be silent for ever is because this blog is starting to make a lot of noise in the L community...
    And so trans people fear to loose all the privileges they got by luring lesbian and gay people to steal their ressources...
    To all those sissy guys, I would say : be grown up male. Get out of L center and find your own budget...We are not your mummies...

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  32. "And it's people like you who make that fight all the more difficult, especially since as a member of the LGBT community, you should know what it is like to be in a minority."

    This idea that all minorities should support other minorities just because they're minorities is nuts. You know who else is in a minority in this country? Mormon polygamists. I guess no one should say anything negative about them. After all they're just being who they are, and they sure do contribute to diversity.

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  33. "I guess no one should say anything negative about them. After all they're just being who they are, and they sure do contribute to diversity."

    Excellent, let's fund Mormon polygamists instead of trans people at lesbo center. Afterall, mormons' wifes are also in a sisterhood, aren't they ? Maybe we cant convert one or 2 to our L religion ? ;)
    The money will be more efficiently used than for trans guy...

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    "The National Center for Lesbian Rights devotes a disproportionate amount of time and money to trans issues these days."

    It is crazy : a lesbian center is for women not male
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    Then take it up with them but don't exploit people who are not the ones making those decisions..

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  35. "Then take it up with them but don't exploit people who are not the ones making those decisions.."

    To have devoted this amount of mony to Trans people, there must have been at the beginning a trans begging for money with puppy eyes so I blame it on him or his bro or the bro of his bro if you see what we mean ;)

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  36. "You are placing these people in grave danger and you know it." More danger than they placed themselves in by posting You Tube videos?


    "YOU are EXPLOITING THEM because of your hatred towards men and your anger." I really don't see any hatred towards men in this blog, quite the opposite.

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  37. The difference between a man and a woman is mainly the dick and the boobs and the pusy. Straight women like dick but do not like pussy and boobs. Straight trans guys don't have a dick but they have a pussy.

    Too bad

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  38. First, I want to thank Dirt for opening up a day in the middle of the week. That's cool.

    Second, I want to point out that many of us have no scars because our chest-surgery type did not leave them. I pass in a men's locker room at my gym *where* I've seen the following things on xy males: cellulite on thighs, curvy hips, love handles, big butts, flaps of extra skin in many places, and one or two penises which are smaller than some transmen's t-grown ones. My point is that there is alot of variation in the male form and the female form. Not a single man in there has questioned my sex.

    What is your role in protecting the precious boundaries of male culture from encroaching transmen?

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  39. "What is your role in protecting the precious boundaries of male culture from encroaching transmen? "

    Misunderstanding : we protect women spaces. Do what you want in males spaces (if you even dare entering in ;o)

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  40. This is my second time contacting you. I'm just asking you to remove my picture from your blog on October 17, 2010. I'm on the bottom right. I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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  41. It's always the most homophobic people who end up being gay. If you are obsessed with transmen, lurking around watching our videos, noticing us in public all the time, you are probably trans yourself. Sorry, but it's true.

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  42. I find it hard to believe that people on this blog are taking Dirt's "points" about Vanderbilt University as hard truth when I commented on both posts and both of my comments were censored. Surely there are some voices she is not allowing, even in these "open comment" discussions.

    When you look at them, you see that the only comments Dirt allowed on the Vanderbilt posts were ones defaming the developments at an office on a university campus she knows nothing about. (And the last time I checked, by alumni who don't even study here anymore.)

    I am a current student at Vanderbilt, and I know the whole story about what has been going on here at this LGBT center (since I've been here both years that Dirt posted about). But because my knowledge pointed out that Dirt was talking about something she has no knowledge about, my comment got censored.

    Please, people, think before you take everything she says and internalize it by rote.

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  43. Andrew I love your feminity. Why on earth are you posting your face on youtube if you don't like it everywhere ? Do you have any issue at setting your privacy parameters in Youtube ? Are you retarded ? A 4 years old can do it ;o) !

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  44. Uh oh Dirt. Your supporters are starting to sound more stupid, use bad grammar and spell poorly.
    Can everyone take a deep breath and at least try to sound intelligent so we can have an intelligent exchange?

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  45. "I am a current student at Vanderbilt, and I know the whole story about what has been going on here at this LGBT center"

    Your comment brings nothing new : as it is open comments day, why not bringing the truth ? If there is any ?

    The point is Vanderbilt dean hired a foreigner transguy instead of an american lesbian...

    Have you heard about unemployment and economic crisis those days ?

    Why not hiring an american woman ?

    TJ is not even qualified...

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  46. Hey dirt, I am an FtM, we will just get that out of the way. I am associated with plenty of the people that you have posted pictures of and I'm sure that I am unfortunately associated with those who have sent you hateful messages. They feel offended by much of what you say, and rightfully so, but I am here to apologize on their behalf and to shed some light that not all FtMs are really just testosterone poisoned little girls.

    I am 19 years old. I have been on testosterone therapy for almost a year. I do not have PCOS, cancer or fibromyalgia, not yet at least. Fibromyalgia and cancer both run in my family though, and if I do end up being diagnosed with one of those ailments I will more than likely blame that, not the testosterone. I do not have a nasally voice. I am not overweight. I do not hate women, in fact I love them. I love breasts, just not on me, I am a man and should not have breasts. I am not asking anyone to conform to a gender binary, just asking that others can accept that I am all the way on the male side of the gender spectrum. I was not forced or coerced to undertake this transition, everyone was very hesitant to allow me to move forward, including my therapists and doctors. But I put the amount of time in required to make and educated decision. I'm sure that many will argue that I am not old enough to make that sort of decision and I won't argue because there is little I will be able to do to change your mind.

    Testosterone did not fix all my problems, nor did I expect it to. It has also come with its own set of problems that I would not have to face if the world did not perceive me as a young man, but those I am willing to take on.

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  47. I think she has the open comment day set to automatically accept comments, though I have noticed that my more challenging and poignant posts are not accepted on other days. Whereas she'll post the dumbest, most hateful shit from other transguys and lesbians.
    Which is weird, because you can hate your way all the way to the grave, but a good conversation and increased understanding can actually change the world.

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  48. 'So why would someone transition just because "it's the thing to do" or "it'll be easier".' Oh my God, you really are naive, aren't you?

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  49. I don't invade women's spaces-the music and fashion sucks.

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  50. "I don't invade women's spaces-the music and fashion sucks."

    Good boy : educate your bro's

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  51. "Testosterone did not fix all my problems, nor did I expect it to. It has also come with its own set of problems that I would not have to face if the world did not perceive me as a young man, but those I am willing to take on."

    List those "problems," kiddo, the ones that go with being perceived as male. Because I'm guessing that most are closer to being male privileges than real problems.

    As for not having health problems after a year on artificial testosterone, I hope you realize that a year is a very short time.

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  52. "As for not having health problems after a year on artificial testosterone, I hope you realize that a year is a very short time. "

    A new bald Bin Laden in 10 years : we should send all those Tguy to Yemen ;)

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  53. What about all the resources they are taking away from THEMSELVES (and probably their parents in many cases)? Those drugs and surgeries aren't cheap. Take that money and go to school instead!

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  54. Do you have any issue at setting your privacy parameters in Youtube ? Are you retarded ? A 4 years old can do it ;o) !

    You said it. This is the behavior I would expect from a 4 year old. Nobody is disputing her right to her opinion. They are asking her to be adult enough to know the difference between right and wrong regarding taking their material off their youtube. Mature adults would not do that.. But yes, you are right.. A 4 year old would. Also it would not be wise to leave my keys in the car, but that does not give someone else the right to take my car.

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  55. "What about all the resources they are taking away from THEMSELVES (and probably their parents in many cases)? Those drugs and surgeries aren't cheap. Take that money and go to school instead!"

    Quoted for truth.

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  56. Ok. First of all, let's get some theoretical things straight. Gender, sex, and sexuality are all constructions of society. These constructions are used by capital and people in power to exploit and oppress anyone who is resisting and challenging their power.

    Feminism is about the eradication of sexism. Sexism includes the enforcement of a gender binary system that has constructed the ideas of men and women. By enforcing these gender constructions with your own theories you are only EMPOWERING SEXISM and SEXIST to continue to exploit and oppress.

    We won't destroy patriarchy and sexism by being ignorant and fighting those people who are in fact fighting the same fight as us. Take sometime and actually read some current feminist theory and understand that we are not living in the 1970's anymore.

    On a historical note, there have been trans people as long as gay people have existed. In fact, "homosexuality" as an identity didn't even exist until modern capital created "heterosexuality" as a form of social control.

    Look trans people are not the enemy, capital, the police, prisons, and the armed right are the enemies of the queer community. These are the actual forces that are oppressing, exploiting, and violently attacking us. Homophobia and sexism will continue to pervade our lives and our communities until these institutions that enforce them are brought to their knees. So if you want to do something useful, actually challenge those institutions that are perpetuating and enforcing homophobia and sexism rather than acting like a narc and doing their work for them.

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  57. I wouldn't know anything about what Butch means from reading your blog so you probably should put a picture that says "Butch Pride" on the top of the page. Why do you put "Anti Trans Blog" or something?

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  58. "What about all the resources they are taking away from THEMSELVES (and probably their parents in many cases)"

    A full transition costs in the US 270000 $ (see Ethan Fechter-Leggett website here http://www.ftmtransition.com/transition/faq/faqfinancing.html) funder by parents, partners and students loans...

    I imagine he will still payback his loan while trying to cover the medical expenses of the tranistion aftermath (cancer, fybro...)

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  59. "Ok. First of all, let's get some theoretical things straight. Gender, sex, and sexuality are all constructions of society. "

    Oh my god, a voice from the 90's so old school of you :D

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  60. Let's be totally honest about what "butch" is while we are busy negating other people's identities. Butch is not a protected species, people. Butch is not special, unique, exciting, imaginative, or revolutionary. "Butch" is a word used to describe women who dress like men, cut their hair like men,
    try to behave like men, try to do the work of men. Butches boss femme women around, drink too much, and often behave like giant babies when it's time to stand up and take responsibility or make a commitment to someone and follow through. All your chivalry is empty posturing. It's not your fault, though, my "big bad" butches. The butch identity is just a scaffolding taken from patriarchal culture and affixed to lesbian culture. You can have the power in your relationship and you STIL get to whine about having no power in the world, so that femmes will feel sorry for you and buy into the idea that you are "special" and "unique". If butches were truly something unique, they would not wear men's clothing and styles because, let's face it-ladyhips don't look so hot squeezing out over the top of those Dickies and neckties were not made to have a hump in them. Also, sportsbras are binders, so you can stop lying to yourself about that.
    "Butch" is a desperate attempt to be and look and act more powerful than femme women. Butches adopt the brashest, worst behavior of men.
    Butches are cartoons characters. It's a blatant power-grab- not some precious identity to be
    cherished. Every single thing that's defined as butch is passed down from the world of men. At
    least transmen have the balls to actually deal with the consequences of passing in the world as male rather than constantly borrowing from male culture and then claiming to be a victim at your convenience. When it suits you, you can always turn and run back to the crappy little enclave of gay culture and be the biggest little rooster in the henhouse.

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  61. This blog has evolved to something greater that just Butch, it is a community of concerned lesbians and women who don't want to be threatened by trans and who want to protet young women to do their life's biggest mistake...

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  62. What's your opinion of Chaz Bono?

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  63. If you don't want to be "threatened" by trans, then stop *feeling* threatened by trans. Problem solved.

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  64. If you really want Dirt's opinion of Chaz Bono, look back in the archives of her blog. It boils down to this: "She's really fat, and I really hate it when fat lesbians call themselves butch (because I certainly don't have any body-image issues myself!)"

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  65. "Gender, sex, and sexuality are all constructions of society." Not really, as you yourself acknowledge later in your post.

    "Capital." Translation: you have semi-absorbed some Marxist writings in college.

    "Take sometime and actually read some current feminist theory and understand that we are not living in the 1970's anymore." This is so typical, and so predictable. People who have drunk the queer theory Koolaid can't believe that someone else might have read this stuff too, and come to a different conclusion.

    "Look trans people are not the enemy, capital, the police, prisons, and the armed right are the enemies of the queer community."
    1) Suggesting that transition is motivated by internalized sexism is not the same thing as saying that trans people are the enemy. 2) "Capital," by which I assume you mean the economic system known as capitalism, is neither pro-gay nor anti-gay. It has its good points and its bad points, none of which inherently have to do with either gays or transsexuals. 2) The police in my area do a good job of protecting both gays and transsexuals from violence and harassment. 3) The prison system has serious flaws, but it does not exist for the purpose of oppressing gays or transsexuals. If you had said African Americans, you might actually have had a point, but you didn't.

    "Narc." Are you 14 years old?

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  66. The point is Vanderbilt dean hired a foreigner transguy instead of an american lesbian...

    Then take it up with the Dean of Vanderbilt. Don't plaster every trans males pic you can find on here to vent your anger..

    All the trans guys are saying is remove their pics from here and quit taking them. Is that too much to ask? In my early days of web development I got clobbered for using others graphics and rightfully so. I learned a valuable lesson from it and removed their material from my website. Those I had thier material were mad as hell and I had not used their identifying photo's. Yes I was out of line using their material and had I used my head I would not have done so.. But at least I respected their wishes and removed it.

    I bet if the tables were turned everyone in here would not want their graphics or photo's to be used elsewhere. It would be a different tune then.

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  67. "If you don't want to be "threatened" by trans, then stop *feeling* threatened by trans. Problem solved."

    Sweetie, we don't feel, we are threatened : our spaces are invaded, our budget are taken by transguys, our student centers are given to them...whereas they are peanuts in the community.

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  68. @Anon 3:59 PM ---- I disable embedding on my videos, thus she is violating the copyright on my video by posting my picture. End of story. I'm just asking her to remove my picture; there no reason to be rude when you do not know what you are talking about.

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  69. Andrew, why are you showing your life on the Tube,? just curious...

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  70. Also, the Stonewall Riot was started by transwomen, ya dumb clucks.

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  71. Sweetie, we don't feel, we are threatened : our spaces are invaded, our budget are taken by transguys, our student centers are given to them...whereas they are peanuts in the community.

    Then once again take it up with the places who are doing it. Do not target people who are actually on youtube with EACH OTHER for support.

    As a butch lesbian I am totally offended that another butch lesbian would do this.. Plastering peoples pics over here is not the solution..

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  72. "Stonewall Riot was started by transwomen"

    it is not a reason to give to transmale all our budget and spaces and job position...

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  73. "Also, sportsbras are binders, so you can stop lying to yourself about that."

    SRSLY? All kinds of women wear sportsbras. They don't cause damage, nor are they intended to conceal the existence of breasts.

    Also, why are you repeating yourself? You already posted this.

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  74. "Do not target people who are actually on youtube with EACH OTHER for support."

    Find a therapist. Youtube is a media not a support group.

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  75. sportsbras and binders are different. You can't do sport with a binder...unless you want to suffocate

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  76. "Also, the Stonewall Riot was started by transwomen, ya dumb clucks."

    Ah yes, that good old revisionist history. The drag queens of the past are now claimed as MTFs.

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  77. Why do you think it's *your* budget and *your* funding and your *job* positions?

    If ya don't like the inclusion of new letters in LGBTQ, you need to organize, break off and just be the L or LG, (or whoever you falsely believe share your specific struggles). Christ, maybe you can buy an island to go extinct on.

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  78. Why do you think it's *your* budget and *your* funding and your *job* positions?

    Because we built first those centers, we fighted first to have those job position opened, we fund raised that money. It was supposed to fund sexual orientation and L activism not gender issues.

    It is like I had invited you at my home and you had dropped him out of it eating from my fridge, using my credit card and pretending finally it is your home...

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  79. "Do not target people who are actually on youtube with EACH OTHER for support."

    Find a therapist. Youtube is a media not a support group.



    Who the hell are you to tell others what form they use. You use what you can afford and/or you choose and others should choose for themselves what is good for them. Why are a few of you so hell spent to impose your will on others?

    You know, I swear, some within the lesbian community can be some of the most judgmental parts of society there is. And no I do not know if you are lesbian or not.

    Some people live in remote areas and others may not have access to therapists. It still does not excuse taking others material and photo's and using them for an assault rifle over here.

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  80. Come on, those kids are narcissist bastard. It is not stealing. It is spreading.

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  81. I don't understand what you are saying about how I "dropped him out of eating from your fridge" and used your credit card. I think you better find a new translating site to use.
    I'd like you to detail for me EXACTLY what you have done personally, paid for, organized, raised money for and built in the way of LGB centers. Political campaigns to create new gay job positions? Bring it. If you do that, and the list is good, maybe I will concede to never step foot in those facilities or get any free condoms there. Your accomplishments could never even come close to those of the transpeople I know who have fought for ALL LGBTQ issues.

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  82. Hey Dirt, do you have any trans friends?

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  83. dirt, is an awesome guy. does anybody know why he's not commenting?

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  84. Sweetie, I am an activist for 40 years now. You can't beat that :D

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  85. Ever have a personal conversation with a transguy, Dirt?

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  86. Why do transguys date lesbians ?

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  87. Why are transguys obsessed by male's room ?

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  88. Why do transguys date lesbians ?



    Why do butches date butches. What difference does it make.

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  89. oh, all trans guys date lesbians? did you find that out when you were surveying each and every trans man in the world?

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  90. transguys have a ton of body hair and a beard. They are not women. So lesbians cannot date transguy unless they are bi ...

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  91. same thing could be asked about lesbians dating trans guys. his avid hatred of trans men really only seems like he's trans himself.

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  92. no some of transguys are gay and they get fucked in public restroom cf Warren Kunce :http://www.xtube.com/community/profile.php?user=sweetbodboi

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  93. Sweetie, *one* year in the life of a few transmen I know could probably beat that. FTM doctors and FTM nurses treating people with AIDS, FTM's in hospice care for people dying of AIDS, FTM lawyers working on gay marriage legislation and anti-gay bullying legislation, FTM health educators working in schools to educate young queer people, FTM acupuncturists volunteering in prisons, on and on and on. You, sweetie, are really, really not paying attention.

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  94. FTM do not have a dick : they are not males

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  95. Because lesbians date us. Although I would never date a woman who calls herself a lesbian. My girlfriend doesn't even bother defining herself based on sexuality.

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  96. FTM are fat : they use T as a diet pill

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  97. FTM go into transition because they don't want to be adult and grow up. They search for a new teenagehood...

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  98. 20's something FTM are ugly : they are bald with a beard.
    My 40 years old uncle looks younger and handsome compared to them

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  99. @Anon 4:02 (Part 2)
    And fourth, the center is not less LGB oriented because a transman is working there. There does seem to be a lack of information for transgender students, though.
    I am quite aware of the employment crisis. But in case you don’t know the laws of this country, it is perfectly legal to hire a person who is not an American citizen providing they have the appropriate working visa.
    It is not up to you to determine if TJ was qualified for a position; you have no knowledge of the job description for this position. If TJ got this job over an “American lesbian,” chances are he was more qualified than any of the “American lesbian” applicants. I know the people who hired him, and they are very fair-minded and actually were hoping for a qualified lesbian (who knew about all the things they needed her to be fluent with) to fill the job.
    Also, this university does not discriminate on the basis of gender, gender identity, or sexuality, so it is unlikely that TJ got the job because of his gender identity.
    Did I answer your questions?

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  100. No, I have a dick that grew when I went on T. 2 or 2.5 inches when erect. Not much, but *man* is it fun. I can fuck my girlfriend with it too and make her come, and there's always the strap-on for big fun. In fact, I'd have to say I have an awesome sex life. Thanks for asking.
    By the way, are there a bunch of 10year olds on here suddenly, making one-line comments with poor grammar?

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  101. It IS hate when you are telling someone they look like 'bin laden' and using this as a reason to banish them.

    A transman on T would rather be a 'less attractive man' with scars than live on as something they've never felt comfortable as.
    And when you say FTM still look like women, have you ever really looked at nude men and women? There are masculine female bodies, there are feminine male bodies. There are men with breasts and females with none. Why can't you just let people do what they want, it's not as if an FTM became an ftm to say "I'mma steal all the resources from butch women!".

    We're all just trying to survive. You can have your own opinion.. but don't tear apart everything these men stand for to get it across to people.

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  102. @Anon 4:02 (Part 1)
    There is no need to be so rude. Of course I will inform you of the situation, if Dirt allows THIS comment to go through. I do assure you, I am not trying to hide anything from you.
    First, the person who was previously hired at this center identified as “genderqueer” (the genderqueer that means not male or female, and possibly outside of the gender binary—NOT the political term) but preferred female pronouns when presented with the option of choosing genderless pronouns.
    Second, she moved so she could marry her wife. We were all very sad to see her leave. I miss seeing her when I go in the office.
    Third, I’m not upset that TJ got the job. He seems to have a lot of good things to offer this campus. I appreciate that he’ll be able to work on some of the things this campus seems to have trouble with, from general visibility of the LGBT community on campus to meeting the housing needs of transgender students (two of the many projects that are in the works right now). To be honest, if TJ is the person to get the ball moving on all of these things, I don't care that he's a male, or a transmale, or if he doesn’t label himself at all. Three years ago there was a hate crime on this campus that targeted a gay couple; today I think we need to be working on changing the campus atmosphere to a place where it’s safe to be something other than a frat boy or a sorority slut (the two genders people seem to be freely allowed on this campus). Things are better now, but not so good that I would say we don’t need somebody to help change things. If TJ is the person who can make this campus a safer place to live in, I don’t care what his identity is.

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  103. "We're all just trying to survive."

    You are right : you are just zombies

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  104. Ha! Fat and ugly? Should I say "I know you are but what am I"?

    Are you 10 years old?
    I guess you don't have any better point to make.

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  105. Something I don't understand is this pathological need to secure the approval of others that don't agree with you. When I came out, no one gave me any kind of approval and I did not receive much support from within the GLBTQ. Transwomen and transmen friends came out and accessed medical assistance and just wanted to be themselves and live the life they wanted and they received even less approval. Why demand approval from someone, like Dirt, when you know she is never going to give the approval you seek? Why do you care? If you are confident in the decisions you are making, if you know this is right for you, then really, why care about what anyone else thinks?

    Cherysh

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  106. "FTM doctors and FTM nurses treating people with AIDS, FTM's in hospice care for people dying of AIDS" So what? Straight "cis" people do this all the time, and do just as good a job. Including some anti-gay ones, btw.

    "FTM lawyers working on gay marriage legislation and anti-gay bullying legislation" So what? Straight "cis" people do this too, and to date they've been much more effective.

    "FTM health educators working in schools to educate young queer people" About?

    "FTM acupuncturists volunteering in prisons" Again, so what? Who cares?

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  107. Dirt, do you have any trans friends?

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  108. "Why demand approval from someone, like Dirt, when you know she is never going to give the approval you seek?"

    Because they are insane and so transition is not the cure

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  109. When you used mormon polygamists as a minority we must also accept since "Minorities should support other minorities"

    Well, being different and knowing I identified as male since kindergarten, I learned an amazing amount of acceptance, tolerance and understanding. When I say I think lesbians and trans shouldn't 'hate' on eachother, what I'm saying is not that all 'minorities' should band together, but tolerate, understand, and try to show some level of common decency to eachother.

    When I look at people like 'mormon polygamists' I have no right to tell them what they are doing is wrong. Who am I to say what is the proper and correct way to live? It's not my right.

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  110. "There are masculine female bodies, there are feminine male bodies."

    This does not chhange the fact that even a certain FTM poster boy, the photographer who does the self-portraits, still looks like a bald, muscle-bound woman with a beard. Not just a guy with wide hips. And this is one of the success stories.

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  111. I don't have any dick and I fuck you with my strap-on

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  112. Well if you want to know dirts mission, here it is

    New Radical Lesbian Feminist Front-NRLFF Mission Statement and more


    http://dirtywhiteboi.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/new-radical-lesbian-feminist-front-nrlff-mission-statement-and-more/


    It is pretty much take it or leave it; she is not going to change..

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  113. SCUM Manifesto anyone?

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  114. Yes, we are the Undead and we are coming for your resources. We want your crappy bars, bad hair, and mom jeans. We are going to steal your Ferron and Indigo Girls tapes and eat them. We are going to steal your women (well, yeah we really are doing that), and burn your little Craftsmen homes with your tasteless Sapphic ceramic vaginas, your rugby trophies, and your Budweiser hats inside them.

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  115. "We are going to steal your Ferron and Indigo Girls tapes and eat them. We are going to steal your women (well, yeah we really are doing that), and burn your little Craftsmen homes with your tasteless Sapphic ceramic vaginas, your rugby trophies, and your Budweiser hats inside them."

    Unmasked at least

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  116. I didn't know taking shit off of youtube channels was in *your space*, instead, you're the one invading these ftm's space and posting their shit on your blog without permission.

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  117. "When I look at people like 'mormon polygamists' I have no right to tell them what they are doing is wrong. Who am I to say what is the proper and correct way to live? It's not my right."

    If you can examine that way of life seriously and closely, and then honestly say you have no opinion, you are abdicating your responsibility as a thinking adult.

    If you cannot distinguish between having an opinion and infringing on other people's rights, you probably should not be allowed to vote.

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  118. How many of you FTM hating dykes smoke and drink? Hm, want to talk about cancer and other health problems?

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  119. Anonymous said: "If you can examine that way of life seriously and closely, and then honestly say you have no opinion, you are abdicating your responsibility as a thinking adult. "

    Hey, seriously, have you ever met someone who had a lifestyle like that? I have no problem with it. It's strange, I used to think it was weird, until I actually met someone who lived that way.

    It's not something I would do, but it works for them. They have amazing relationships with their families and sister wives. And I personally wouldn't knock that! :)

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  120. or to vote for tea party

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  121. Is this the way to the car clamp club?

    Eddie

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  122. The point I was making is that FTM's continue to work within the LGBTQ community and give care to gay people all the time. Not to mention organizing and raising funds for LGBTQ centers and groups. That's why it's not just "your" money and "your resources". What's your point about comparing us to cis people? I don't get it. And, I was responding to the weird German lady whose currently got some intruders eating out her fridge or something.

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  123. "If you cannot distinguish between having an opinion and infringing on other people's rights, you probably should not be allowed to vote."



    Maybe you should explain that to dirt while "she" is putting other peoples photos and shit up with out permission

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  124. I am super healthy myself (sport, no alcohol, no cigarettes). Injecting huge amount of testo is risky...

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  125. "We want your crappy bars, bad hair, and mom jeans. We are going to steal your Ferron and Indigo Girls tapes and eat them...and burn your little Craftsmen homes with your tasteless Sapphic ceramic vaginas, your rugby trophies, and your Budweiser hats inside them."

    You know, I don't like any of that shit either. But somehow, I never thought I had to have a sex change to live a different kind of life.

    Won't even bother to address the "steal your women" phrase; it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

    I swear, we've let the younger generation down. They're transitioning because they don't like the Indigo girls, mullets, rugby, and ceramic vagina sculptures. I got news for you: neither do a whole lot of homoseckshual women.

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  126. Come on, only one kid complained about the photos so far : who are the other ones ? They don't care..they like to be famous here :D

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  127. Well, good thing it's not a *super huge* amount.

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  128. Do you really transition because you don't like tasteless Sapphic ceramic vaginas ? You don't have to have one : it is not mandatory.

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  129. TJ Jourian is an opportunist moron and the person who hired him have no brain...This guy thinks he can be feminist...

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  130. LOL!!! The Anonymous who said the german woman had an intruder eating out of her fridge. I noticed that too.

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  131. "We are going to steal your Ferron and Indigo Girls tapes and eat them. We are going to steal your women (well, yeah we really are doing that), and burn your little Craftsmen homes with your tasteless Sapphic ceramic vaginas, your rugby trophies, and your Budweiser hats inside them."

    Unmasked *and* hilarious, but I'm thinking that actual zombies can't type that well. Spastic, jerky arm movements and all.

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  132. @Ave. Are you sure you weren't just watching an episode of Big Love?

    Keep sweet.

    If you don't know what that expression means, Google it.

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  133. I think she was saying she did all the work/activism and the T guys steal all the work done so far.

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  134. Been amusing myself with the latest round of anti “Dirt from Dirt” YouTube videos and I shall summarize the points raised for your consideration:

    The blog “bashes” transfad girls and is responsible for their rape and murder.

    Dirt is too butch to be a woman.

    Dirt like many lesbians pathologically hates men.

    Dirt better watch her back because a trans is going to harm her.

    T doesn’t change sexual orientation and behavior.

    Trans can’t be misogynist because they want to have sex with women.

    Pro-trans YouTube testimonials are only for those who agree with them and to be critical is unfair because they weren’t posted for analysis.

    Freedom of Speech does not include hate speech.

    It is unfair for lesbians to exclude men.

    Pansexuality is an evolved sexuality.

    Dykes are cunts and stupid bitches.

    Trans should harass and report the blog to authority figures on the grounds that it represents an unwanted diversity of opinion.

    Media excerpts are illegal.

    Feminism is like Nazis.

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  135. "LGBT IS HOW IT IS AND GOING TO BE DIRT I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE YOU ON IN A BOXING RING OF KNOWLEDGE BUT THEN AGAIN YOU WOULD NEED A BRAIN FIRST."

    Dirt has mor brain cells than you little shit.

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  136. "How many of you FTM hating dykes smoke and drink? Hm, want to talk about cancer and other health problems?"

    Even smokers and problem drinkers generally realize they should quit.

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  137. It is funny because in 10 years from now all the FTM who post here will be suffering from cancer or fibromyalgia and so this post and its comments will be a remain of the time when they could type on a keyboard without suffering like hell (ask Pat C if you want to know more ;)

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  138. " My girlfriend doesn't even bother defining herself "

    and... that's a good thing, right?

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  139. No! I have not seen big love. Is it good? I did however watch a few episodes of that one reality show.. Sister wives? Caught it one late night. It's really less crazy than it seems. Anyway.. off topic.

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  140. I am bisexual : I do men and women. I tried FTM once but it was frustrating because you expect a dick and they don't have one...

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  141. I know that some lesbians have good taste...like many of my close friends. But I'm not addressing them because they also have INTELLECTS and RATIONAL THINKING SKILLS and feel secure in their identities, so are not threatened by mine.

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  142. "My girlfriend doesn't even bother defining herself "

    and... that's a good thing, right?"

    Yes otherwise she would be fucking confused :D

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  143. Not off topic. Google the expression "Keep sweet" and FLDS. See how far you can go with your moral relativism then.

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  144. I know that stealing "your" women is like shooting fish in a barrel. They throw themselves at FTM's. Wait a minute, is that really what this whole thing is about? Be honest...

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  145. Got some more news for you: being secure in your identity =/= never calling bullshit when you see it.

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  146. "It is funny because in 10 years from now all the FTM who post here will be suffering from cancer or fibromyalgia and so this post and its comments will be a remain of the time when they could type on a keyboard without suffering like hell (ask Pat C if you want to know more ;)"

    Alot of FTM do not feel the need to go on T to present themselves as male. For those that do, it is true that testosterone causes fibromyalgia, cancer etc, but it does not occur in every guy on T. For some FTM it's a risk they are willing to take. :/

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  147. I am impressed by the growing number of FTM promoting Dirt blog on Youtube. Just search for "dirtywhiteboi67". We love you kids <3

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  148. Thank you for standing up and being a voice against transitioning. I'm not going to say that nobody should transition, but I will say that several people close to me have begun transitioning lately and it is COMPLETELY out of the blue.

    One day, they were telling me that they love women and a couple of months later, they were becoming gay men.... HUH??

    I can't help but think they haven't really thought this through, that they don't really know what they're getting into. I get that I'm probably not the first person they would confide in about this, but how does someone go from being into women to wanting to be a gay man?

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  149. Dirt, have you ever spoken to trans people IRL? Any trans friends?

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  150. "but it does not occur in every guy on T. For some FTM it's a risk they are willing to take. :/"

    That is when they will need support from their community...

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  151. HELP! I don't want to keep sweet.

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  152. "My girlfriend doesn't even define herself"
    No, she's not confused, she's in love. More important than body parts or labels. Is that a problem?

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  153. 'I know that stealing "your" women is like shooting fish in a barrel. They throw themselves at FTM's. Wait a minute, is that really what this whole thing is about? Be honest...'

    I see you have some reading comprehension problems. The fact that you use the expresssion "stealing [anyone's] women" at all is kind of like, let's see, a neon sign advertising the fact that you have internalized a 1950's view of women. No wonder you have so much trouble believing that you are one.

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  154. I bet 50 bucks that Ayden will be bald in 3 years and that Kylie will left him as soon as he does not serve anymore heur photographer career interest...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/AYDENandKYLIE

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  155. wow, there are a lot of doctors on here, i was just curious where you got your information that ftm's will get cancer, etc... no matter what? where do you guys do your research? what doctors did you guys talk to? In fact, all doctors I've seen and talked with said the opposite. It's mainly depends on the person and their family history.

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  156. "you have internalized a 1950's view of women."

    it reminds me of those Neanderthal tribes era with their quest for fire.

    So don't pretend being born in a female bod makes you FTM natural feminists...

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  157. "I bet 50 bucks that Ayden will be bald in 3 years and that Kylie will left him as soon as he does not serve anymore heur photographer career interest...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/AYDENandKYLIE
    "

    He's not on T though, is he?

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  158. I had some growing pains from T. It went away. There are higher rates of ovarian, cervical, breast cancer, and obesity among lesbians. I think YOU guys should stop being lesbians AT ONCE! I'm only trying to save you from yourselves. It's really a service I'm doing. I may start a blog and put lesbians pictures up claiming that they are killing themselves.

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  159. "HELP! I don't want to keep sweet." Nor should you. The whole world view underpinning that way of life is demeaning. Still think it's morally neutral and/or harmless to the people involved? I'm not asking, do you think it should be illegal, just whether you still think it's morally neutral and/or harmless?

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  160. "My girlfriend doesn't even define herself"
    No, she's not confused, she's in love. More important than body parts or labels. Is that a problem?

    And when the love will fade away, your single "male" body will be the one of a freak...Don't rely on anybody for loving yourself dude

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  161. She is a virgin in a world where men will even turn to soft fruit for pleasure.

    Pats

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  162. "I may start a blog and put lesbians pictures up claiming that they are killing themselves."

    Moron : lesbian who see a gynecologist do not have more health issues than straight women...

    But taking high dose of T will kills you on the long run sorry RIP

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  163. Well, it's been swell, guys, but I actually do have a life to get to. Thank you to those who laughed with me, let me eat out of their fridge and use their credit card, and most importantly, help myself to your women.

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  164. "In fact, all doctors I've seen and talked with said the opposite."

    In the US ? Come on your doctors are sold to the pharmaceutical industry :D

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  165. ["My girlfriend doesn't even define herself"
    No, she's not confused, she's in love. More important than body parts or labels. Is that a problem?]

    She's in love. With you. And you are more important than her own self concept.

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  166. ""HELP! I don't want to keep sweet." Nor should you. The whole world view underpinning that way of life is demeaning. Still think it's morally neutral and/or harmless to the people involved? I'm not asking, do you think it should be illegal, just whether you still think it's morally neutral and/or harmless?"

    Honestly, it really doesn't bother me. The whole cult aspect of it would. The women in polygamist relationships (the ones I've researched) aren't being held up by gunpoint. But admittedly I don't know anything deeper than the surface about it.

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  167. "I may start a blog and put lesbians pictures up claiming that they are killing themselves."

    You could do that, but I don't think anyone would take you seriously. You seem to be taking this blog pretty seriously, though.

    Btw, it's women who are never pregnant have a higher rate of breast cancer, not lesbians per se. So you'd have to put childless straight women on your blog, too. Obesity? Again, generally acknowledged as a health problem, and dealt with as such.

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  168. In the US ? Come on your doctors are sold to the pharmaceutical industry :D

    You're right, my lesbian gyno/surgeon is really out to kill me.

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  169. In the US ? Come on your doctors are sold to the pharmaceutical industry :D

    You're right, my lesbian gyno/surgeon is really out to kill me.

    No she is not out to kill you but she makes so much money out of it, you can question her integrity...or you are super naive...And in countries where such studies exist and doctors are not married to the pharma industry, they have proven the link between T and liver cancer....

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  170. "I may start a blog and put lesbians pictures up claiming that they are killing themselves."

    If you are concerned about lesbian health I think that would be a wonderful blog topic. We should be concerned about the health of LGBT populations.

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  171. "I may start a blog and put lesbians pictures up claiming that they are killing themselves."

    Eating pussy is not harmful :P

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  172. "In the US ? Come on your doctors are sold to the pharmaceutical industry :D

    You're right, my lesbian gyno/surgeon is really out to kill me."

    Unfortunately, testosterone does cause a huge amount of issues, not every person experiences the issues, but they are very prominent in guys on T. My doctor is someone who sees and treats transsexual/transgendered clients all specifically, and they make you sign a release form stating the issues you may experience. My doctor even said to me that if I decided to go on T, I would basically be seen as a medical experiment, because there is so little known about the long term effects. Since so few people on it have been studied long term it's hard to know.

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  173. "It is unfair for lesbians to exclude men."

    Fuck you ! I love women body, I don't want to have freak with a male attitude (sort of) at my parties and bars. Grow up and hunt at males' places...

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  174. "My doctor even said to me that if I decided to go on T, I would basically be seen as a medical experiment,"

    yes FTM are medical experiment for every surgeon, hormon provider, therapist....Thanks for being the guinea pig sacrified for science and mankind...

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  175. FTM are misogynist

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  176. Buck Angel is a fraud

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  177. ""My doctor even said to me that if I decided to go on T, I would basically be seen as a medical experiment,"

    yes FTM are medical experiment for every surgeon, hormon provider, therapist....Thanks for being the guinea pig sacrified for science and mankind..."

    What an ftm is now is an experiment for the road of other young transmen, gathering information for the future generations so they can know what to expect. Not for society. I think the FTM who go on T are brave to do so. The first vaccinations for smallpox, people thought it was crazy. No one knew the long term effects. Many, many people die in the route to many strides in medicine.

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  178. No, my identity is not more important than my girlfriend's. She stated clearly to me that she doesn't like to be defined as anything, but that was before we dated. She's been in serious relationships with men and women before. I wonder why people on this list responded so much to me saying my girlfriend is in love with me? I don't understand. There was even someone who is excited for the love to fade and for me to be in my "freak body". I mean, what the hell is wrong with you people? I think it's you who have lost your humanity.

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  179. " I don't understand. There was even someone who is excited for the love to fade and for me to be in my "freak body". I mean, what the hell is wrong with you people? I think it's you who have lost your humanity."

    It's amazing to me how much hate and cruelty can come out of people who are either anonymous, or who feel justified in their cause. It's disgusting.

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  180. Well, most of you who don't intend on having kids, have fun with your cancer, too! At least most of us (hopefully) will have hystos and top surgery to help us stay away from that pesky cancer

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  181. Amazing how many trans posters have obviously not read the blog they are posting on, then post all highly critical and projecting wild assumptions about what they imagine has been posted here.
    Is that a personality trait of women who inject large doses of testosterone?

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  182. "It's amazing to me how much hate and cruelty can come out of people who are either anonymous, or who feel justified in their cause. It's disgusting."

    I agree : all those doctors should be bashed. They kill those young women and turn them into freak experiments...The rocky horror made reality....

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  183. Unfortunately lesbians are forced, by marginalization, to define their whole beings based on their lesbianism. Women who date transmen who pass are not confined to thinking of themselves constantly as a function of their sexuality. It's an unfortunate reality but somewhat freeing for those women who find they *like* being seen as a whole person, not just a lesbian. Now I can see that this is why you would think my identity is overwhelming her "self-concept". You're projecting.

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  184. "Is that a personality trait of women who inject large doses of testosterone?"

    I do remind you that a male brain is in his balls and his dick but FTM do not have any so ;)

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  185. "I agree : all those doctors should be bashed. They kill those young women and turn them into freak experiments...The rocky horror made reality...."


    After reading this post, I have.. no desire to continue posting here. Goodnight, friends!

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  186. "Women who date transmen who pass are not confined to thinking of themselves constantly as a function of their sexuality."

    Ok back to basis :
    * a woman who dates woman is a lesbian
    * a woman who date men is straight
    * a woman who does both is bi
    * a woman who is not able to define her sexuality is an idiot (or blonde)

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  187. "At least most of us (hopefully) will have hystos and top surgery to help us stay away from that pesky cancer"

    That's true- every healthy organ you cut out of your body and kill will not get cancer. Smart plan.

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  188. So the physical body is the only reason you like someone? Really? So if a man gets his penis burned off in an accident, he's less of a man? If a woman loses her breasts shes less of a woman? Shouldn't it be more about mental, emotional, and spiritual connection? Really people? Come on.

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  189. "Unfortunately lesbians are forced, by marginalization, to define their whole beings based on their lesbianism. Women who date transmen who pass are not confined to thinking of themselves constantly as a function of their sexuality. It's an unfortunate reality but somewhat freeing for those women who find they *like* being seen as a whole person, not just a lesbian. Now I can see that this is why you would think my identity is overwhelming her "self-concept". You're projecting."

    If you think "passing" as hetero is "freeing" than enjoy your "liberation". And closet.

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  190. "That's true- every healthy organ you cut out of your body and kill will not get cancer. Smart plan."

    I think so, too! I'm happy you agree.

    Night everybody!

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  191. * a woman who is not able to define her sexuality is an idiot (or blonde)

    ....wow. It's one thing for people to call me a freak and bash me for being trans. But you really just called my girlfriend an idiot? And THEN bashed blondes? What are you? some kind of old misogynist butch who's not getting any? I said she doesn't LIKE to be defined by her sexuality. Not that she doesn't know what it is.
    For the record, my girlfriend is incredibly intelligent, beautiful, sexy, talented, dynamic, compassionate, and driven. And she's a brunette. You dried-up old nag.

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  192. "If you think "passing" as hetero is "freeing" than enjoy your "liberation". And closet."

    Thank you, I do enjoy it more than I thought I would. I do come out to those people who become my friends, so the closet never lasts long. Funny, no one from the hetero world has ever reacted with the kinds of things I've seen dykes say on this list. You all should call this list "The Bitter Barn". I guess that's what you get when you mingle with incredibly damaged people. I know it's not your fault.

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  193. Dirt, it occurred to me that since you claim and believe gender is entirely a social thing and nobody is born trans, maybe you should be supporting these kids in their desire to be seen as male. Maybe if it were easier to SOCIALLY "transition" then these kids wouldn't go right for the T and surgeries just to be able to socially transition. Just something to think about!!!

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  194. It will now put the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose.

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  195. 'So if a man gets his penis burned off in an accident, he's less of a man? If a woman loses her breasts shes less of a woman?'

    Their partners will have some adjusting to do. Also, having your dick, *the one you were born with along with your testes, prostate, and XY chromosomes), burned off is not the same thing as never having had one, and no testes, because you had a vagina, uterus, ovaries, breasts, and XX chromosome.

    Also, "I don't like labels" = bi.

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  196. ["If you think "passing" as hetero is "freeing" than enjoy your "liberation". And closet."

    Thank you, I do enjoy it more than I thought I would. I do come out to those people who become my friends, so the closet never lasts long. Funny, no one from the hetero world has ever reacted with the kinds of things I've seen dykes say on this list. You all should call this list "The Bitter Barn". I guess that's what you get when you mingle with incredibly damaged people. I know it's not your fault."]

    THIS. This, in a nutshell is why we need to disengage the T from the LGB. Politically and socially.

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  197. Okay, then she's bi. Is that a problem? Oh right, that's like some kind of slur in your world.

    I'm wondering, would you melt if you lived in a world where people didn't define themselves based on sexuality? Is this whole "gay" thing really just a way to feel special about yourself?

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  198. "Thank you, I do enjoy it more than I thought I would. I do come out to those people who become my friends, so the closet never lasts long. Funny, no one from the hetero world has ever reacted with the kinds of things I've seen dykes say on this list. You all should call this list "The Bitter Barn". I guess that's what you get when you mingle with incredibly damaged people. I know it's not your fault."

    Dude! All of my friends accept me for who I am. It's so weird seeing these lesbians who are usually on my side by default just vomiting out all of this resentful hatred! My straight friends have been amazing, my gay friends have been amazing, my lesbian friends same.. even my grandma accepts me. It's just like upside-down world time.

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  199. Trannies have more in common with right-wing teabaggers than lesbians and gays.

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