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Friday, September 17, 2010

Some Graphic Reality about FTM Transmen and Bottom Surgery

This video was left in a comment a few days ago, it deserves its own post.
See graphic video here... 


I've heard/read from quite a few trans(men) as well as people who have known trans(men) that have had phalloplasty, that its either a totally failure as the "penis" rots off the body or its at best unsatisfactory. (how could it be anything less)



My question is, does anyone have any hard (no pun intended or not much) evidence of the results from trans(men) who have had phalloplasty? And by hard evidence, I mean medically, not personally, because we all know how the trans machine spins truth/reality.



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14 comments:

  1. Wow,now I know why so many 'transmen' DON'T have the surgery. I could never be a surgeon or a butcher! And what is it they're doing? Cutting up their arm to get the material for the 'penis'? That in itself would leave a lifelong scar on the arm. And then stuffing some white plastic up there? I love Yoni/Cunt/Vulva so much that to see it mutilated like that, I had to stop watching that video.

    While I don't have 'hard' evidence, I do have first and second hand reports and things I've read as well.

    Like it shows the surgery is difficult and painful, and doesn't really work. While the doctors have bragged they have just about perfected the MTF surgeries, they're far from it with FTM's. One thing that I've heard is that they can't necessarily urinate through the tip of their small penis, sometimes it comes out the sides, so whatever they're using to imitate the male ureters hasn't worked.

    The subject has to come back many times to have the surgeries fully completed. We knew a former femme friend of ours who was married to an FTM who was going through all this with him. And then it's never going to work like the 'real deal' for pleasuring women. It's small in comparison to bio-males flesh.

    The majority of FTM's I've known settle for the hormones, facial hair, breast removal, and possibly a hysterectomy.

    I'm thinking why not just circumvent all this horror and just learn to love yourself however you express yourself, instead of damaging your body to such a great extent with these horrifying surgeries that don't and won't work properly in the first place? Or is cosmetics more important than anything else? If you want to pass as a dude, then do so, or live as one..but to submit to these surgeries???

    In both directions there are issues of functionality of the organs, both with MTF's and FTM's. If I can find documentation from some of what I've read about the errors introduced both ways and complications, which are inevitable, I will.
    -MasterAmazon
    P.S. You are a really good researcher Dirt, and maybe you need to actually write a book on all this and get the truth out!
    Keep speaking truth to male and wanna be male Power!

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  2. @ MasterAmazon, you have self-explanatory photos there (sensitive people, please DO NOT click):

    Penis (sort of)

    * http://syndromedebenjamin.free.fr/images/phallos/p-a20.jpg

    * http://syndromedebenjamin.free.fr/images/phallos/p-a47.jpg

    * http://syndromedebenjamin.free.fr/images/phallos/p-a48.jpg

    Arm cutting or damages or necrosis :

    * http://www.genderstichting.be/nl/component/option,com_ponygallery/Itemid,126/func,detail/id,43/

    * http://syndromedebenjamin.free.fr/images/phallos/p-a17bras.jpg

    * http://syndromedebenjamin.free.fr/images/phallos/p-a16bras.jpg

    To be fact based, you have in this medical paper, a photo of necrosis plus the complications rate:

    http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838%2809%2900522-3/fulltext

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  3. "While the doctors have bragged they have just about perfected the MTF surgeries"

    Because it's easier to dig a hole than build a pole. But MTF men have to dilate for ever or the hole will closing. For the body it's a wound.

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  4. Elzi,

    I would also add major and minor complications are typical for MTFs who have SRS, some die, some are paralyzed, all have to have scar tissue removed from their "neovag" and many lose depth due to this. Many also lose sexual sensation and their ability (and desire) to orgasm.

    dirt

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  5. That is some seriously disturbing shit.

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  6. Definition of "Woman": Fuckable Hole ???

    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/06/sex_reassignment_surgery_when_things_go_wrong.php

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  7. The truth about FTM transition is that those "FTM" will never reach the other side whatever maybe the surgeries.

    They will always have "female curves", anybody will figure out they are trans due to the massect' scars and finally even if they have bottom surgeries, those are so ineffective, they will never have a properly functionning dick or realistic.

    Look: even poster FTM like Ethan Daniel Fetcher Leggett (see there: http://www.ftmtransition.com/transition/bottomsurgery/bottomsurgery.html) had to go for 5 revision surgeries after his metoidioplasty (supposed to be "lighter" and more mastered than phalloplasty...).

    So when the fad will be gone, they will remain memories of this past era, horrible freaks with mutilated bodies whereas they could have been happily attractive butches...

    The only ones who win at the end are all those plastic surgeons making a ton of money with surgeries and revisions...

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  8. Being FTM is the new fad "cool to do", but FTM wanabee should be aware of what they will be faced to.

    I have watched this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usLeOBkiNWI) done by a FTM to prevent people entering into the process "just because they have the money to do" or "because the world is gay now" (in opposite to lesbian) or "because everybody else is doing it".

    I find this person very brave because he is really against the fairytale speeches we hear among queer fashion victims...

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  9. UGH....well I just read/looked at one of the articles you put up above in all it's gory/bloody detail explaining the procedure completely(and what I was looking at in that video). Not only will their nondominant arm be permanently scarred from the penile reconstruction surgery, the phallus itself being constructed from that arm, but that there will be SEVERAL surgeries none of which guarantee a fully functioning organ, and which have high complication rates. UGH.

    And wouldn't it just be a whole lot easier to find some level of self-acceptance and complete expansion of who we can be and what we can do, how we choose to dress, whom we choose to partner with, and how we choose consensually to have sex with others, out of ALL pre-formed boxes than this form of mutilation of perfectly healthy organs?

    What the promises are of these surgeries they simply cannot deliver...it is a lie, a deciet, and a sad day to go through all that pain and mutilation to find some shred of self-acceptance. There's just got to be a better way. And that individual above who warns away those who really aren't transsexual/transgendered, well neither does s/he pass as male either! That whole attitude of bitches and studs smacks of so much sexism, that it simply disgusts me...again, what self-hatred for ANY aspect of womonhood, which is seen as a weakness even in the toughest or most 'stone' of studs....or trans 'men'.
    -MasterAmazon
    -MasterAmazon

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  10. On this blog page : http://web.archive.org/web/20070730083652/www.blight.com/~cr/cock.html

    You can crealy see that the effect of T is not so amazing...

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    1. what he said. this whole thread set me off.... ftm need to love themselves, ftm will never be a real man - this shit is hateful...... ftm fads. agree with ^anon, a good fuck and you, good day. testosterone not so amazing.... cmon humans - do better.

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    2. Are you kidding? It's not hateful, it's REALITY. Ffs, this fad of delusion.

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  12. Jesus christ these surgeons are MONSTERS! WHY ISNT ANYONE STOPPING THEM?

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